History Franchise / AceAttorney

3rd Dec '16 12:37:33 PM Z3DT
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** In Dual Destinies the words [[spoiler: "Dark age of the law"]] are said so many times some characters comment on it.
28th Nov '16 11:34:30 AM Polokun
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: All over the place. Procedure is shaky, and conflicts of interest that would force most people to recuse themselves from the case are ''rampant''. In general: Attorneys do far more direct investigation then they would in real life, cases go to trial far too fast and last far too short, and the burden of proof is effectively on the defense. Prosecutors are able to get away with insane amounts of verbal and physical abuse against the defense and judges.

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: All over the place. Procedure is shaky, and conflicts of interest that would force most people to recuse themselves from the case are ''rampant''. In general: Attorneys do far more direct investigation then they would in real life, cases go to trial far too fast and last far too short, and the burden of proof is effectively on the defense. Prosecutors are able to get away with insane insae amounts of verbal and physical abuse against the defense and judges.



** 6-5 second trial: One of the prosecutors involved in the case is the defendant's own son. At least the heroes have the decency to lampshade this one. In addition, the other prosecutor is the victim's wife and the reigning monarch of the country, and actively abuses her power to make life miserable for the defense.

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** 6-5 second trial: One of the prosecutors involved in the case is the defendant's own son. At least the heroes have the decency to lampshade this one. In addition, the other prosecutor is the victim's wife and the reigning monarch of the country, and actively abuses her power to make life miserable for the defense. This at least has some justification as said Prosecutor can change the rules of how the law works as she sees fit.
26th Nov '16 7:52:32 AM Wuz
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* AlternateCharacterReading: In the original Japanese version, the {{Meaningful Name}}s of some of the characters are disguised to look like normal names by turning everything into kanji (while others just straight up pick special, meaningful combinations of kanji to use as their names). For example, Ryuuichi Naruhodō (Phoenix Wright)'s last name, Naruhodō, comes from なるほど (Naruhodo, "I see"), but is written as 成歩堂 (Naruhodō), where 成 is Naru, 歩 is ho, and the last do is prolonged into dō and written as 堂.
18th Nov '16 5:51:56 AM ExSlacker
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* OnceASeason: Almost every game would end with a main character (usually Nick) facing some sort of misfortune, that causes him to protest "OBJECTION!" which is prompted by the player.
11th Nov '16 9:55:46 AM ThatFanwiththeGlasses
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** ''Prosecutor's Path'': Half of case 3 takes place 19 years in the past.

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** ''Prosecutor's Path'': Half of case 3 takes place 19 18 years in the past.
8th Nov '16 6:02:52 PM Gosicrystal
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Playing the games might lead one to assume they take place in Tokyo or some other large city in Japan. WordOfGod says the city's ''Los Angeles''. Apparently, it's an AlternateUniverse version where the Japanese culture was allowed to thrive, rather than harshly rejected as it was in RealLife.
** It should be noted this only applies to the [[CulturalTranslation culturally translated]] international version. The Japanese version explicitly takes place in Tokyo.

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Playing the games might lead one to assume they take place in Tokyo or some other large city in Japan. This is the case in the Japanese version of the games, but not in the international one due to CulturalTranslation: WordOfGod says the city's city is ''Los Angeles''. Apparently, it's an AlternateUniverse version where the Japanese culture was allowed to thrive, rather than harshly rejected as it was in RealLife.
** It should be noted this only applies to the [[CulturalTranslation culturally translated]] international version. The Japanese version explicitly takes place in Tokyo.
RealLife.



* AwesomeButImpractical: The DS support functions for the microphone and touch screen. While it is cool to press the Y button to turn on the mic and yell "'''''Objection!'''''" and "'''''Hold it!'''''", it's far easier to press the shoulder buttons instead. The touch screen is rarely ever required for any of the games either. Apollo Justice tries to make the best use of both functions by implementing forensic tools to discover clues throughout the game, but for the most part, such a requirement comes up maybe only once or twice per game.
** Same thing with the WiiWare rereleases. While it is cool to do Phoenix's trademark pose with the Wii remote while presenting evidence, it is a lot easier to just press the button.



--->'''Phoenix:''' ''Robot abuse and hawk attacks... Blackquill family life must be interesting...''

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--->'''Phoenix:''' ''Robot Robot abuse and hawk attacks... Blackquill family life must be interesting...''



** Usually the true murderer. [[spoiler:Dahlia Hawthorne before she developed her {{Yandere}} tendencies towards Mia, and Alita Tiala from ''Apollo Justice''. Matt Engarde had this as his defining character trait--even his name is a hint.]] And from Gyakuten Kenji 2, [[spoiler:Souta Sarushiro.]] And now in Dual Destines we have [[spoiler: Phantom/Bobby Fullbright]]

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** Usually the true murderer. [[spoiler:Dahlia Hawthorne before she developed her {{Yandere}} AxCrazy tendencies towards Mia, and Alita Tiala from ''Apollo Justice''. Matt Engarde had this as his defining character trait--even trait -- even his name is a hint.]] And from Gyakuten Kenji 2, [[spoiler:Souta Sarushiro.]] And now in Dual Destines Sarushiro]]. In ''Dual Destines'' we have [[spoiler: Phantom/Bobby [[spoiler:Phantom/Bobby Fullbright]]



* BrickJoke: In case 1-4, Phoenix mentions a line that was already really funny on its own.
** -> Phoenix: When something smells, it's usually the Butz.

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* BrickJoke: In case 1-4, Phoenix mentions a line that was already really funny on its own.
** -> Phoenix: When
own: "When something smells, it's usually the Butz.Butz".



->'''Gumshoe:''' Any real detective would look at his bandana!
->'''Judge:''' Mmm, banana.
->'''Edgeworth:''' That's ''bandana'', Your Honor.
->'''Judge:''' Right, his banana-scented bandana.

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->'''Gumshoe:''' -->'''Gumshoe:''' Any real detective would look at his bandana!
->'''Judge:''' -->'''Judge:''' Mmm, banana.
->'''Edgeworth:''' -->'''Edgeworth:''' That's ''bandana'', Your Honor.
->'''Judge:''' -->'''Judge:''' Right, his banana-scented bandana.



** Situations where revealing the truth is praised:
*** Telling a man who already knows that he was deceived by his girlfriend five years ago exactly ''how'' he was deceived? Sure, the truth turned out to be that he hadn't been as bad a judge of character as he thought he was, but Edgeworth starts pushing for the Truth to come out without knowing what it is. Edgeworth inherently knows that The Truth will heal the man's pain even if it gives him more to be upset about.

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** Situations An example where revealing the truth is praised:
*** Telling
praised: telling a man who already knows that he was deceived by his girlfriend five years ago exactly ''how'' he was deceived? Sure, the truth turned out to be that he hadn't been as bad a judge of character as he thought he was, but Edgeworth starts pushing for the Truth to come out without knowing what it is. Edgeworth inherently knows that The Truth will heal the man's pain even if it gives him more to be upset about.



** Also, revealing the truth when it comes to your own emotions and feelings is not exactly welcome, seeing how much the Japanese love TheStoic. Many times, the characters have to hide their anguish inside for the sake of others, even if it hurts them and they are, technically, hiding the truth [[spoiler: (like Maya and how she feels after her mother died, Phoenix after Case 3 in ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney or after his disbarrment in ''Apollo Justice'', Apollo's "I'M FINE!" scream, the whole "A lawyer always smiles and only cries when it's all over" message, among others).]] Hiding how you truly feel and lying about it seems to be much more acceptable than expressing your true emotions.

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** Also, revealing the truth when it comes to your own emotions and feelings is not exactly welcome, seeing how much the Japanese love TheStoic. Many times, the characters have to hide their anguish inside for the sake of others, even if it hurts them and they are, technically, hiding the truth [[spoiler: (like ([[spoiler:like Maya and how she feels after her mother died, Phoenix after Case 3 in ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney or after his disbarrment in ''Apollo Justice'', Apollo's "I'M FINE!" scream, the whole "A lawyer always smiles and only cries when it's all over" message, among others).]] others]]). Hiding how you truly feel and lying about it seems to be much more acceptable than expressing your true emotions.



* {{Catchphrase}}: "'''''Objection!'''''", of course! To a lesser extent, "'''''Hold it!'''''" and "'''''Take that!'''''". "'''''Objection!'''''" is shouted one last time in every game's ending before the credits.
--> '''Edgeworth''': I, myself, never let an opportunity to shout "Objection!" pass me by!
** [[TagalongKid Pearl]] {{lampshade|Hanging}}s the use of it at the ending of the third game: "Oh, I love this part! I can't wait to hear it...!"
** Even witnesses and others such as Maya and Trucy scream out "'''''Hold it!'''''" and "'''''Objection!'''''", although they don't use a voice clip for it.
** Phoenix's habit of thinking, "I'll get you for this...! In court!"
*** And "I've got a bad feeling about this..." / "* sob* "
*** "Anyone could wear that costume! Even me!" (Which leads to a BrainBleach moment during case 3-3.)

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* {{Catchphrase}}: {{Catchphrase}}:
**
"'''''Objection!'''''", of course! To a lesser extent, "'''''Hold it!'''''" and "'''''Take that!'''''". "'''''Objection!'''''" is shouted one last time in every game's ending before the credits.
--> '''Edgeworth''': I, myself, never let an opportunity to shout "Objection!" pass me by!
** [[TagalongKid Pearl]] {{lampshade|Hanging}}s the use of it at the ending of the third game: "Oh, I love this part! I can't wait to hear it...!"
**
credits, a habit lampshaded by some characters like Edgeworth and Pearl. Even witnesses and others such as Maya and Trucy scream out "'''''Hold it!'''''" and "'''''Objection!'''''", although they don't use a voice clip for it.
** Phoenix's habit of thinking, Phoenix:
***
"I'll get you for this...! In court!"
*** And "I've got a bad feeling about this..." / "* sob* "
*** "Anyone could wear that costume! Even me!" (Which leads to a BrainBleach moment during case 3-3.)(sob)



** The Judge's "The court accepts this as evidence."
** Also from the Judge, "Order! Order! Order!!!" and any variations thereof.

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** The Judge's Judge:
***
"The court accepts this as evidence."
** Also from the Judge,
evidence"
***
"Order! Order! Order!!!" and any variations thereof.



* CoolButInefficient:
** The DS supports functions for the microphone and touch screen. While it is cool to press the Y button to turn on the mic and yell "'''''Objection!'''''" and "'''''Hold it!'''''", it's far easier to press the shoulder buttons instead. The touch screen is rarely ever required for any of the games either. Apollo Justice tries to make the best use of both functions by implementing forensic tools to discover clues throughout the game, but for the most part, such a requirement comes up maybe only once or twice per game.
** In the WiiWare rereleases, while it is cool to do Phoenix's trademark pose with the Wii remote while presenting evidence, it is a lot easier to just press the button.



** Ema Skye in all of her appearances.
** Also [[spoiler:Klavier, in the flashback court segment]] of 4-4.

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** Ema Skye wears pink glaasses for Luminol testing in all of her appearances.
** Also [[spoiler:Klavier, [[spoiler:Klavier]] wears sunglasses in the flashback court segment]] segment of case 4-4.



* ContinuityCameo: Phoenix Wright is mentioned by She-Hulk in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''. In She-Hulk's ending, [[spoiler:both Wright and Edgeworth appear]].
** EarlyBirdCameo: ...And then Phoenix Wright was added into the same game proper, in ''Ultimate Marvel Versus Capcom 3''.

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* ContinuityCameo: Phoenix Wright is mentioned by She-Hulk in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''. In She-Hulk's ending, [[spoiler:both Wright and Edgeworth appear]].
** EarlyBirdCameo: ...
appear]]. ...[[EarlyBirdCameo And then Phoenix Wright was added into the same game proper, proper]], in ''Ultimate Marvel Versus Capcom 3''.
3rd Nov '16 6:44:44 PM Gosicrystal
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* AbsenceOfEvidence:
** If the murder was brutal and little blood was found near the body, most probably it was moved from the real scene to a fake one.
** Sometimes there will be a lack of fingerprints on an item (e.g. a gun) and the prosecution will claim this is proof that your client used it because they were wearing gloves, logic be damned.



* AddedAlliterativeAppeal:
** Franziska in all of her appearances, often with some good ol' rhyming added for good measure.

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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal:
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AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Franziska in all of her appearances, often with some good ol' rhyming added for good measure.



* AlwaysMurder: The second case of the third game initially appears to be about a case of grand larceny (which creates an odd scenario where the victim of the crime is alive, and yelling at you for taking the defense case), but within a day, you have to defend the same guy for a related murder.
** Also occurs in case 4-2, with 3 [[spoiler:related]] cases - 2 thefts and 1 hit-and-run. But then, of course, a murder occurs. [[spoiler:That's also related to those incidents...in fact it's the reason they happened]].
** A few cases feature crimes that appear to be murder but wind up slightly different: case 1-3 involves a [[spoiler:manslaughter in self-defence]] and case 2-3 also involves a [[spoiler:manslaughter, though the law of transferred intent applies]].
** Subverted in [[spoiler:Phoenix's last case, which, 7 years later, was revealed to be a suicide.]]
** The first case of ''Dual Destinies'' has bombing as the primary charge against the defendant, with murder as a secondary charge (a body was found in the rubble). [[spoiler:Assault is later added as a third charge.]] The game's demo completely averts this, as the murder aspect is not included in the portion of the first case you play.
** Played with in the DLC case of ''Dual Destinies'', as Blackquill insists on a formal murder charge even though the defendant is an orca. [[spoiler:It later becomes a traditional murder charge when Buckler is arrested, and in the end it turns out to have been an accident!]]
** Subverted in ''Spirit of Justice''. In case 6-3, the deaths turn out to be [[spoiler:a manslaughter in self-defense and a suicide, respectively]]. It's also subverted in the first trial of case 6-5, where a death is said to be accidental- the actual case is a civil case about the legal ownership of an object the victim had possession of. [[spoiler: DoubleSubverted in that the accidental death was a murder]].
* AmateurSleuth: Despite the fact that the defense attorneys have no police training whatsoever, it's also their job to do all the detective work for their client- you don't have any kind of [[Franchise/PerryMason Paul Drake]] equivalent.
** It's been stated on-record in interviews that the entire series is [[TakeThat a gigantic middle finger to the Japanese judicial system]], which is ''[[FridgeHorror quite accurately depicted]]'' in the games.

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* AlwaysMurder: Most cases will be straight murders, with some exceptions:
** Case 1-3 involves a [[spoiler:manslaughter in self-defence]] and case 2-3 also involves a [[spoiler:manslaughter, though the law of transferred intent applies]].
**
The second case of the third game initially appears to be about a case of grand larceny (which creates an odd scenario where the victim of the crime is alive, and yelling at you for taking the defense case), but within a day, you have to defend the same guy for a related murder.
** Also occurs ''[[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'':
*** Occurs
in case 4-2, 2, with 3 [[spoiler:related]] related cases - -- 2 thefts and 1 hit-and-run. But then, of course, a murder occurs. [[spoiler:That's also related to those incidents... in fact fact, it's the reason they happened]].
** A few cases feature crimes that appear to be murder but wind up slightly different: case 1-3 involves a [[spoiler:manslaughter in self-defence]] and case 2-3 also involves a [[spoiler:manslaughter, though the law of transferred intent applies]].
**
*** Subverted in [[spoiler:Phoenix's last case, which, 7 years later, was case]], which is eventually revealed to be a suicide.]]
suicide.
** ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'':
***
The first case of ''Dual Destinies'' has bombing as the primary charge against the defendant, with murder as a secondary charge (a body was found in the rubble). [[spoiler:Assault is later added as a third charge.]] The game's demo completely averts this, as the murder aspect is not included in the portion of the first case you play.
** *** Played with in the DLC case of ''Dual Destinies'', case, as Blackquill insists on a formal murder charge even though the defendant is an orca. [[spoiler:It later becomes a traditional murder charge when Buckler is arrested, and in the end it turns out to have been an accident!]]
** ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'':
***
Subverted in ''Spirit of Justice''. In case 6-3, where the deaths turn out to be [[spoiler:a manslaughter in self-defense and a suicide, respectively]]. It's also subverted respectively]].
*** Subverted
in the first trial of case 6-5, where a death is said to be accidental- accidental -- the actual case is a civil case about the legal ownership of an object the victim had possession of. [[spoiler: DoubleSubverted [[DoubleSubversion Subverted again]] in that the accidental death was a murder]].
murder.
* AmateurSleuth: Despite the fact that the defense attorneys have no police training whatsoever, it's also their job to do all the detective work for their client- you don't have any kind of [[Franchise/PerryMason Paul Drake]] equivalent.
**
equivalent. It's been stated on-record in interviews that the entire series is [[TakeThat a gigantic middle finger to the Japanese judicial system]], which is ''[[FridgeHorror quite accurately depicted]]'' in the games.
30th Oct '16 8:41:02 PM TaylorHyuuga
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30th Oct '16 8:41:00 PM TaylorHyuuga
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Each individual episode takes pains to avert this, only including characters who are relevant to the case at hand. The greatest number of characters in any individual episode is 27 in The Grand Turnabout, many of whom are already dead. Most cases average around 10-15 characters, with tutorial cases having fewer. Further, each game typically only has one detective, one judge, and one or two major prosecutors/rival investigators, making Ace Attorney a rare example of a series with LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters which employs an EconomyCast and a MinimalistCast.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Each individual episode takes pains to avert this, only including characters who are relevant to the case at hand. The greatest number of characters in any individual episode is 27 in The Grand Turnabout, many of whom are already dead. Most cases average around 10-15 characters, with tutorial cases having fewer. Further, each game typically only has one detective, one judge, and one or two major prosecutors/rival investigators, making Ace Attorney a rare example of a series with LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters which employs an EconomyCast and a MinimalistCast. However, as a whole, it definitely qualifies
26th Oct '16 6:07:14 PM DustSnitch
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* SmokingGunControl: Easy solutions are quickly denied in ''Every. Freaking. Case.''
** Particularly notable towards the end of the first game where everyone in the court watches a security camera video and then Phoenix and the prosecutor freak out when it turns out that the most important parts of what happened are not shown. This is also a justified instance, as [[spoiler: the culprit was the one whose job it was to manage the cameras, so he knew how he could avoid being seen.]]
** Also, if the crime has any direct witnesses, they will almost always turn out to have completely misinterpreted what they saw. They are usually outright lying the other times.
** And any seemingly-critical photograph taken of the crime will turn out to be entirely misleading.
** Any drawn pictures will manage to combine bad witnesses with misleading or missing facts. So of course [[CloudCuckoolander Larry Butz]] ends up drawing a critical piece of evidence for the trilogy finale.
** Oh, don't forget that, anytime there IS a smoking gun..it's proving the guilt of said innocent client.
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