History Flanderization / LiveActionTV

30th Jan '16 6:15:56 PM DennisRodquin
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*** On the other hand, it could be considered a straight version as, while the pranks do go down in number of occurrences, the pranks become significantly more elaborate, to the point where some even question if Jim is the true loser to devoting so much time to them. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFNqUcRWGHg this prank in Season 1]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmt3gBm8kcA this prank from Season 8]].
20th Jan '16 1:15:49 PM Silverblade2
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* In general, many "flashbacks" to a specific time period will do this with whichever time period they are depicting. For example, if it's a flashback to TheEighties, expect every male character to be wearing Music/AFlockOfSeagulls haircuts and all the women to be dressed like Music/{{Madonna}}, along with constant references to things like Rubik's Cubes and floppy disks. On the other hand, don't expect any references to subtler but perhaps more significant period-related themes like the AIDS scare or nostalgia for TheSixties. It's worth mentioning that this also often happens in movies, video games and cartoons. But it's most prevalent in live action television. ** ''Series/TheGoldbergs'' notably does something like this on purpose, deliberately using an ambiguous date of "198-something", and mixing up various events. The series is loosely adapted from Adam's memories of his childhood, though.
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* In general, many "flashbacks" to a specific time period will do this with whichever time period they are depicting. For example, if it's a flashback to TheEighties, expect every male character to be wearing Music/AFlockOfSeagulls haircuts and all the women to be dressed like Music/{{Madonna}}, along with constant references to things like Rubik's Cubes and floppy disks. On the other hand, don't expect any references to subtler but perhaps more significant period-related themes like the AIDS scare or nostalgia for TheSixties. It's worth mentioning that this also often happens in movies, video games and cartoons. But it's most prevalent in live action television. ** ''Series/TheGoldbergs'' notably does something like this on purpose, deliberately using an ambiguous date of "198-something", and mixing up various events. The series is loosely adapted from Adam's memories of his childhood, though.
20th Jan '16 12:32:40 AM LadyCia
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** Castiel in season 4: {{Badass}} angel of the Lord. Castiel from season 7 onward: Socially awkward, klutzy nerd. Seeing him in the later episodes, you'd be hard pressed to believe he was once a completely serious character.
17th Jan '16 11:48:54 PM woddor
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* Who remembers when J.D. on ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' was just a little emotionally needy due to him wanting a father figure to replace his own dysfunctional family? Fast forward to season three where J.D. is an appletini (light on the tini)-swilling "sensey" (that's "sensitive person") who can't hold on to his "man cards" (which would be taken away from him if he did something girly) for a full day.
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* Who remembers when J.D. on ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' was just a little emotionally needy due to him wanting a father figure to replace his own dysfunctional family? Fast forward to season three where J.D. is an appletini (light on the tini)-swilling "sensey" (that's "sensitive person") who can't hold on to his "man cards" (which would be taken away from him if he did something girly) for a full day. This is lampshaded by Zach Braff in the bloopers to Season 8. --> "You haven't been here in a while, my character's ''really'' gay now."
10th Jan '16 9:31:52 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* Myycroft in Series/{{Sherlock}}, while notably thinner than his literary origins, still refuses to perform "legwork". However, in the Recap/SherlockSpecialTheAbominableBride, he's presented so far in the other direction it's almost a parody. [[spoiler: Granted that Victorian!Mycroft is (likely) just a figment of Sherlock's imagination as part of moving a puzzle, it may just be Sherlock getting a dig in at his brother]]
15th Dec '15 9:26:30 PM thecarolinabull01
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* In ''Series/TheGeorgeLopezShow'', Benny starts out as an annoying and insensitive LadyDrunk who still cares about her son. Later on, she starts to just be mean just to be mean. ** At the beginning, George was a loving family man who only made snarky comments when the situation called for it. By the end of the series, all he does is snark at people. Sometimes it seems like he wouldn't give a shit if his family lived or died. Though [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther rare moments]] show that he does love them, he just doesn't show it often. *** His relationship with Angie became more competitive over time. Some would ask why they are still married. *** Of course anyone who had an abusive, sociopathic mom, was married to an overly-optimistic goody-two shoes, had a gang-banger son and a bratty rap groupie daughter who did nothing but cause trouble would get tired of that crap eventually. ** Carmen stared out as a shy, social outcast and later became bratty, horny and rebellious.
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* In ''Series/TheGeorgeLopezShow'', ''Series/TheGeorgeLopezShow'' ** Benny starts out as an annoying and insensitive LadyDrunk who still cares about her son. Later on, she starts to just be mean just to be mean. ** At the beginning, George was a loving family man who only made snarky comments when the situation called for it. By the end of the series, all he does no one is snark at people. Sometimes it seems like he wouldn't give a shit if safe from his family lived or died. Though [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther rare moments]] show that he does love them, he just doesn't show it often. *** His relationship with Angie became more competitive over time. Some would ask why they are still married. *** Of course anyone who had an abusive, sociopathic mom, was married to an overly-optimistic goody-two shoes, had a gang-banger son sarcasm, and a bratty rap groupie daughter who did nothing but cause trouble would get tired he comes of that crap eventually. ** Carmen stared out as a shy, social outcast and later became bratty, horny and rebellious.{{Jerkass}} at times.
23rd Nov '15 3:09:21 PM MightyKombat
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** Subverted with Corporal (later Sergeant) Max Klinger, who slowly stops his attempts to get out of the army as a crossdresser. He comes up with some pretty creative alternatives, however, including attempting to eat a jeep, threatening to set himself on fire, and pretending that he's seeing the camp as Toledo, Ohio ([[ActorAllusion Jamie Farr's hometown]]). *** Klinger was still in the "wear dresses" stage by the time he tried to eat a jeep or set himself on fire. What's more, he seemed to [[TookALevelInDumbass become much more stupid]] as the series progressed.
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** Subverted with Corporal (later Sergeant) Max Klinger, who slowly stops lets up at his attempts to get out of the army as a crossdresser. He comes up with some pretty creative alternatives, however, including attempting to eat a jeep, threatening to set himself on fire, and pretending that he's seeing the camp as Toledo, Ohio ([[ActorAllusion Jamie Farr's hometown]]). *** Klinger was still in the "wear dresses" stage by the time hometown]]). To counterract this he tried to eat a jeep or set himself on fire. What's more, he seemed to [[TookALevelInDumbass become much more stupid]] becomes progressively dumber as the series progressed.goes on.

*** Probably one of the more destructive forms of Flanderization out there -- the writers (and Larry Linville) had painted themselves into a corner with Burns, and in the end, Linville finally decided he could not go anywhere more with the character. The writers [[LongBusTrip had Burns flip out and be committed to a mental hospital]], to be replaced with the surprisingly Flanderization-resistant Charles Winchester. *** Destructive not just for the character but also for the show as a whole. The original Frank Burns (in the book and movie) was outwardly a solid, capable, trustworthy member of the conservative "silent majority", which is how he got away with being a bad surgeon - his incompetence was obvious only in the operating room, where the brass feared to tread. Linville's Frank Burns basically wore a flashing neon "BLITHERING IDIOT" sign around his neck. This didn't only make his relationship with the higher-ups and his position as the camp's second-in-command wildly improbable, it made viewers wonder why a competent professional like Houlihan (who despite everything was ''never'' portrayed as anything less than a first-rate nurse) would give him the time of day.
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*** Probably one of the more destructive forms of Flanderization out there -- the writers (and Larry Linville) had painted themselves into a corner with Burns, and in the end, Linville finally decided he could not go anywhere more with the character. The writers [[LongBusTrip had Burns flip out and be committed to a mental hospital]], to be replaced with the surprisingly Flanderization-resistant Charles Winchester. *** Destructive Winchester. This proved to be not just bad for the character but also for the show as a whole. The original Frank Burns (in the book and movie) was outwardly a solid, capable, trustworthy member of the conservative "silent majority", which is how he got away with being a bad surgeon - his incompetence was obvious only in the operating room, where the brass feared to tread. Linville's Frank Burns basically wore a flashing neon "BLITHERING IDIOT" sign around his neck. This didn't only make his relationship with the higher-ups and his position as the camp's second-in-command wildly improbable, it made viewers wonder why a competent professional like Houlihan (who despite everything was ''never'' portrayed as anything less than a first-rate nurse) would give him the time of day.

*** Anyone could get cranky having to manage a field hospital in a warzone....

*** It could be that he was always like this but before he had no depression to ineffectually hide
19th Nov '15 10:16:06 AM TT454
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** Debra started out as a headstrong woman, but still compassionate, thoughtful, and loving of her husband and family. As the series went on, she degenerated more and more into a bitchy {{jerkass}} who actively bullied Ray, including physically attacking him. ** Ray himself was Flanderized from a relatively intelligent EveryMan into a dim-witted, insensitive, lazy wimp who is made to carry the InformedWrongness ball.
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** Raymond started out as a relatively intelligent, if occasionally foolish EveryMan whose problems mostly arose from bad luck or a misunderstanding. He was gradually Flanderized into a hopelessly moronic, insensitive wimp with very little knowledge of how to properly carry out his role as a husband and father. His laziness, selfishness and addiction to sex was elevated to a detrimental level, this resulting in him being subjected to frequent InformedWrongness. ** Debra started out as a sassy, headstrong woman, but still compassionate, thoughtful, and loving of her husband and family. As the series went on, she degenerated more and more into a bitchy {{jerkass}} jealous, bitchy, hotheaded {{Jerkass}} who actively bullied Ray, including physically attacking him. ** Ray himself was Flanderized from a relatively intelligent EveryMan into a dim-witted, insensitive, lazy wimp who is made to carry the InformedWrongness ball.him.
12th Nov '15 1:07:52 AM Pegussu
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** Perhaps no character suffered this more than Leon. Originally Roseanne's uptight boss and later an equally upright partner in the diner, his homosexuality eventually became his defining trait as well as gaining several stereotypical traits he previously didn't have.
1st Nov '15 8:20:55 AM TT454
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** Robert actually was the one character who seemingly went in ''reverse'' with this trope: he started out seeming to be ambiguously autistic in Season One with some of the behavior he displayed, and the earliest episodes made initially made it seem like it was remarkable that he could function at all, much less as an NYPD officer; but as the show went on, Robbie gained more confidence and the show began to tone down his quirkiness (even as it simultaneously Flanderized all the ''other'' characters, oddly enough) to the point where Robbie is a much more "together" guy by the end, though still slightly neurotic. It could possibly be explained by the fact that we learn that Season One takes place only a year after Robbie's divorce, which could explain why he's so pathologically neurotic in the early seasons (and why he's able to pull himself together as time went on).
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** Robert actually was the one character who seemingly went in ''reverse'' with this trope: he started out seeming to be ambiguously autistic in Season One with some of the behavior he displayed, and the earliest episodes made initially made it seem like it was remarkable that he could function at all, much less as an NYPD officer; but as the show went on, Robbie gained more confidence and the show began to tone down his quirkiness (even as it simultaneously Flanderized flanderized all the ''other'' characters, oddly enough) to the point where Robbie is a much more "together" guy by the end, though still slightly neurotic. It could possibly be explained by the fact that we learn that Season One takes place only a year after Robbie's divorce, which could explain why he's so pathologically neurotic in the early seasons (and why he's able to pull himself together as time went on).on). *** However, one aspect of Robert that ''was'' flanderized was his jealousy of Raymond, which started out as a dry, deadpan grudge but gradually evolved into a callous, borderline psychotic loathing of his brother.
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