History Flanderization / LiveActionTV

23rd Mar '17 4:56:45 AM Erin582
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** Bud, Bud Bud Bud. No matter how many times he had sex, no matter how [[{{bishonen}} attractive]] David Faustino became, [[StatusQuoIsGod he was still a virgin]].

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** Bud, Bud Bud Bud. No We could go on for hours how much his sister suffered from this, but he gets hit pretty hard with this as well. At the beginning of the show, he was the CoolLoser who could outwit (and outdo) his sister and wasn't as victimized by her and the rest of the family. Then around season four, his quirkiness that still attracted girls turned to outright nerdiness that they gradually rejected and it was portrayed that no matter how many times he had sex, no matter how [[{{bishonen}} attractive]] David Faustino became, [[StatusQuoIsGod he was still a virgin]].virgin]]. Even worse, his reputation for being a pervert overtook his other qualities, that he was seen as someone who had to [[ADateWithRosiePalms pleasure himself]] because he apparently was so lonely and repulsive to women (or at least according to [[BigSisterBully Kelly]]), from doing it in a public library to the one [[UnreliableNarrator apparent flashback]][[note]]Which is also the one where Kelly ''supposedly'' ended up stupid due to hitting her head in the car as a child[[/note]] where he was caught doing it as a ''[[{{Squick}} baby.]]''
7th Mar '17 11:38:51 AM SlashCo
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*** Alan's Flanderzation can especially be seen in the new seasons where Walden replaces Charlie. Formerly just broke, unlucky and socially inept, he becomes a shameless freeloader, incredibly cheap, more clumsy and unlucky than ever, dimwitted, and somewhat of a selfish jerk.

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*** Alan's Flanderzation can especially be seen Flanderization becomes increasingly apparent in the new seasons where Walden replaces Charlie. later seasons. Formerly just broke, unlucky and socially inept, he becomes a shameless freeloader, freeloader with no pride or dignity, incredibly cheap, more clumsy and unlucky than ever, dimwitted, socially retarded, and somewhat of a selfish jerk.increasingly jerkish.
26th Feb '17 2:39:34 AM CumbersomeTercel
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*** The Second Doctor can be viewed as a Flanderization of the First Doctor. The First Doctor was funny, rude and eccentric and could be relied upon to charge into any situation and be more outrageous than everyone else in it - he's written primarily that way in "The Space Museum", "The Myth Makers" and especially "The Romans" - but it was tempered with a frightening, brooding and vulnerable side to his personality, which tends to be what people remember of him. The Second Doctor, however, was ''primarily'' funny, rude and eccentric and did not have much of a brooding side. For a quick point of comparison, in "The Romans", the Doctor goes to Rome posing as a harpist and embarrasses Emperor Nero by pretending to play a harp piece so subtle that only those with perfectly attuned ears could detect it. In the Second Doctor's only pure historical, "The Highlanders", the Doctor goes to Scotland posing as a German doctor with a campy and ridiculous accent, and captures an English clerk by telling him he had a headache, and when he protested, bashing his head against the table until he agreed that he did, before prescribing he go and lock himself in a cupboard.

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*** The Second Doctor can be viewed as a Flanderization of the First Doctor. The First Doctor was funny, rude and eccentric and could be relied upon to charge into any situation and be more outrageous than everyone else in it - he's written primarily that way in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E7TheSpaceMuseum The Space Museum", "The Museum]]", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E3TheMythMakers The Myth Makers" Makers]]" and especially "The Romans" "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E4TheRomans The Romans]]" - but it was tempered with a frightening, brooding and vulnerable side to his personality, which tends to be what people remember of him. The Second Doctor, however, was ''primarily'' funny, rude and eccentric and did not have much of a brooding side. For a quick point of comparison, in "The Romans", the Doctor goes to Rome posing as a harpist and embarrasses Emperor Nero by pretending to play a harp piece so subtle that only those with perfectly attuned ears could detect it. In the Second Doctor's only pure historical, "The Highlanders", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E4TheHighlanders The Highlanders]]", the Doctor goes to Scotland posing as a German doctor with a campy and ridiculous accent, and captures an English clerk by telling him he had a headache, and when he protested, bashing his head against the table until he agreed that he did, before prescribing he go and lock himself in a cupboard.



*** Played straight then [[DefiedTrope defied]] with the Twelfth Doctor. His {{Jerkass}} tendencies grow over the course of the first several episodes or so of his first season, but he eventually received a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech in "Kill the Moon", when he becomes too much of a jerkass. Then "Mummy on the Orient Express" happened, which showed off a softer side, and for the rest of the season his jerkass tendencies went lower and lower. Come Series 9, and he's basically a CoolOldGuy, if a bit on the [[DeadpanSnarker snarky side]].

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*** Played straight then [[DefiedTrope defied]] with the Twelfth Doctor. His {{Jerkass}} tendencies grow over the course of the first several episodes or so of his first season, but he eventually received a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech in "Kill "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon Kill the Moon", Moon]]", when he becomes too much of a jerkass. Then "Mummy "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E8MummyOnTheOrientExpress Mummy on the Orient Express" Express]]" happened, which showed off a softer side, and for the rest of the season his jerkass tendencies went lower and lower. Come Series 9, and he's basically a CoolOldGuy, if a bit on the [[DeadpanSnarker snarky side]].



** The second flanderization Cybermen got was the level they displayed their emotions and their weakness to gold, because it clogs their chest-units. In Revenge of the Cybermen, the weakness was introduced and the writers and actors put much less effort in making the Cybermen seem emotionless like they originally did. When they came back in Earthshock, their lack of emotions was little more than lip-service and they had tendency to delve into LargeHam territories, to the point it was suggested that the Cybermen remove all emotions except for rage. And in Silver Nemesis, the gold weakness was exaggerated to the point where merely being hit by a gold coin could completely destroy them.

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** The second flanderization Cybermen got was the level they displayed their emotions and their weakness to gold, because it clogs their chest-units. In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E5RevengeOfTheCybermen Revenge of the Cybermen, Cybermen]]", the weakness was introduced and the writers and actors put much less effort in making the Cybermen seem emotionless like they originally did. When they came back in Earthshock, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS19E6Earthshock Earthshock]]", their lack of emotions was little more than lip-service and they had tendency to delve into LargeHam territories, to the point it was suggested that the Cybermen remove all emotions except for rage. And in Silver Nemesis, the gold weakness was exaggerated to the point where merely being hit by a gold coin could completely destroy them.



** The AppliedPhlebotinum and alien races. Jeffries tubes? Mentioned a few times in the show as an alternate route when doors won't close; mentioned in all spinoffs as where ''everything'' is. Warp core breach? When first mentioned, it was so absurdly unlikely due to all the redundant safeguards that the characters couldn't understand how it even happened; but before long, the writers were using "warp core breach" as a go-to danger so often that it seemed a core would breach if you even looked at it funny. Even in the spinoffs themselves, some time between Picard's transformation to Locutus and ''First Contact'', the Borg became Space Zombies!
** A character-specific version afflicted MirrorUniverse Intendant Kira in ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''. According to Nana Visitor, her sexualised approaches to her mainstream universe counterpart were originally meant to be a narcissistic interest in the ScrewYourself possibilities, but the later mirror universe episodes turned her into a fanservicy DepravedBisexual, somewhat to Visitor's displeasure.

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** The AppliedPhlebotinum and alien races. Jeffries tubes? Mentioned a few times in the show as an alternate route when doors won't close; mentioned in all spinoffs as where ''everything'' is. Warp core breach? When first mentioned, it was so absurdly unlikely due to all the redundant safeguards that the characters couldn't understand how it even happened; but before long, the writers were using "warp core breach" as a go-to danger so often that it seemed a core would breach if you even looked at it funny. Even in the spinoffs themselves, some time between Picard's transformation to Locutus and ''First Contact'', ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'', the Borg became Space Zombies!
** A character-specific version afflicted MirrorUniverse Intendant Kira in ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''.''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''. According to Nana Visitor, her sexualised approaches to her mainstream universe counterpart were originally meant to be a narcissistic interest in the ScrewYourself possibilities, but the later mirror universe episodes turned her into a fanservicy DepravedBisexual, somewhat to Visitor's displeasure.
9th Feb '17 3:02:37 AM Geoduck
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** Rebecca as well. At first seems to be a very respectable, and confident, business woman, who liked successful men like herself-finding Sam childish. Later when she first shows her vulnerable side with the situation with Drake, she starts to become more and more whiny about hating her life, and wanting to kill herself, acting bratty, as we hear in one episode her father still gives her an allowance, and a complete gold-digger with no self-esteem, and openly going after some guys just because they have money.

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** Rebecca as well. At first seems to be a very respectable, and confident, business woman, who liked successful men like herself-finding Sam childish. Later when she first shows her vulnerable side with the situation with Drake, she starts to become more and more whiny about hating her life, and wanting to kill herself, acting bratty, as we hear in one episode her father still gives her an allowance, and a complete gold-digger with no self-esteem, and openly going after some guys just because they have money. The show's writers have commented that this was quite deliberate, as it was funnier, and Christie Ally was so good a playing a neurotic wreck.


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* Pretty much everybody and everything in ''Series/{{Newhart}}'' as the show progressed, but the series finale famously offered up a [[AllJustADream pretty brilliant explanation.]]
8th Feb '17 10:51:48 AM SlashCo
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*** Alan's Flanderzation can especially be seen in the new seasons where Walden replaces Charlie. Formerly just broke, unlucky and socially inept, he becomes a shameless freeloader, incredibly cheap, more clumsy and unlucky than ever, dimwitted, and somewhat of a selfish jerk.



*** Alan's Flanderzation can especially be seen in the new seasons where Walden replaces Charlie. Formerly just broke, unlucky and socially inept, he becomes a shameless freeloader, dimwitted and a bit of a jerk.
8th Feb '17 10:48:57 AM SlashCo
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*** Alan's Flanderzation can especially be seen in the new seasons where Walden replaces Charlie. Formerly just broke, unlucky and socially inept, he becomes a shameless freeloader, dimwitted and a bit of a jerk.
19th Jan '17 11:37:54 AM callsignecho
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* Gordon Ramsey's persona has steadily become exaggerated, especially when making the jump from British to American television. While he was always prone to impassioned speeches--and to peppering those speeches with the occasional swear word--it eventually devolved into [[ChewingTheScenery flying off the handle]] at the slightest mistakes, and [[ClusterFBomb spewing profanity]] in all directions. Of course, sometimes it's edited to appear worse than it really is, and sometimes [[AdamWesting he plays it for laughs]].
2nd Jan '17 10:31:47 PM LinTaylor
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* ''Series/KamenRiderFourze'''s Yuki was initially a bubbly, hyper, yet smart and thoughtful girl whose grades were almost as good as Kengo's and could impress Gamou with her knowledge of space. This is exaggerated through the series, most prominently in the second arc, until she becomes an increasingly loud, screechy, childish nuisance who literally believes in imaginary "rocket gods." She somewhat progressed to a more mature personality with the Gemini arc, in which [[spoiler:she became a Horoscope temporarily]] but the damage was done.

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* ''Series/KamenRiderFourze'''s Yuki was initially a bubbly, hyper, yet smart and thoughtful girl whose grades were almost as good as Kengo's [[TheSmartGuy Kengo]]'s and could impress Chairman Gamou (a former astronaut) with her knowledge of space. This is exaggerated through the series, most prominently in the second arc, series until she becomes an increasingly loud, screechy, childish nuisance who literally believes in imaginary "rocket gods." gods". At peak Flanderization in the Aquarius two-parter, plenty of viewers had gotten so sick of Yuki that they wanted her kicked out of the Kamen Rider Club and replaced by the MonsterOfTheWeek, who likewise despises Yuki for treating space exploration like a joke. She somewhat progressed to gets a more mature personality with bit better in the Gemini arc, in which [[spoiler:she became a Horoscope temporarily]] two-parter, where [[spoiler:Yuki almost gets replaced by an EvilTwin, with even her own friends mistrusting her]], but for many fans the damage was had already been done.


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*** Likewise, while Gentaro has a fair number of CatchPhrases[[note]]"UCHUU KITAAAA~!", "Kamen Rider Fourze! Let's do this man-to-man!" and "I'm the man who will befriend everyone, Gentaro Kisaragi!"[[/note]], he was still a well-rounded character. But any time Fourze re-appears in crossover movies and such (especially after Souta Fukushi moved on to other projects), his dialog is 99% those three Catch Phrases repeated endlessly ([[MadLibsCatchphrase or variations thereof]]), and Toei seemingly casts {{Fake Shemp}}s based off their ability to shout "KITAAAA~!" as loudly as possible rather than actually sounding like Fukushi.
28th Dec '16 2:13:43 AM KeithM
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** The process was eventually reversed with some of the above-mentioned characters: Hotchner became humane again and openly friendly and smiling during the arc showing him starting dating again following his wife's murder, and Rossi started filling the role of TeamDad when his character found out he was literally a father. Morgan, while still the team muscle, went with that and became a MemeticBadass.
28th Dec '16 1:56:21 AM RyCyber
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* Chloe O'Brien on ''Series/TwentyFour'' underwent this during season 3. She changed from a quirky analyst in her first few appearances to a neurotic wreck (who also happened to be the only thing standing between CTU and complete system failure) by the end of the season. This characterization more or less continued through the next three seasons, and only reversed itself once Chloe assumed control of CTU New York in season 7.

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* Chloe O'Brien on ''Series/TwentyFour'' underwent this during season 3. She changed from a quirky analyst in her first few appearances to a neurotic wreck (who also happened to be the only thing standing between CTU and complete system failure) by the end of the season. This characterization more or less continued through the next three seasons, and only reversed itself once Chloe assumed control of CTU New York in season 7.8.
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