History Film / WeWereSoldiers

12th Feb '16 5:18:51 PM MRAustin
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*** In RealLife, Moore and An held each other in ''very'' esteem, and, along with Joe Galloway, visited the Ia Drang Valley in 1993, and on learning of his death, Moore and Galloway went to his widow's house in Hanoi (where they found a copy of their book in a glass display cabinet with his uniform and decorations).
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*** In RealLife, Moore and An held each other in ''very'' high esteem, and, along with Joe Galloway, visited the Ia Drang Valley in 1993, and on 1993. On learning of his death, Moore and Galloway went to his widow's house in Hanoi (where Hanoi, where they found a copy of their book in a glass display cabinet along with his uniform and decorations).decorations.
21st Jan '16 9:42:12 PM AFP
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** Of particular note is Colonel Moore's personal radioman, who got that job during training after he managed to tune in on a radio transmission from a firefight happening in Vietnam, on the far side of the world. This scene was TruthInTelevision, due to a [[RealityIsUnrealistic quirk of UHF radio signals]]. The signals can actually bounce off of the upper atmosphere, effectively bank-shotting the signal around the Earth.
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** Of particular note is Colonel Moore's personal radioman, who got that job during training after he managed to tune in on a radio transmission from a firefight happening in Vietnam, on the far side of the world. This scene was TruthInTelevision, due to a [[RealityIsUnrealistic quirk of UHF certain bandwidths of radio signals]]. The signals can actually bounce off of the upper atmosphere, atmosphere under the right conditions, effectively bank-shotting the signal around the Earth.

* RealityIsUnrealistic: Picking up radio transmissions from the far side of the world is very possible with UHF radios such as the ones used by many military forces, due to a quirk of signals in that frequency: they have a tendency to bounce off of one of the upper layers of the atmosphere, using it like a reflector to bankshot transmissions around the curvature of the Earth.
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* RealityIsUnrealistic: Picking up radio transmissions from the far side of the world is very possible with UHF radios such as the ones used by many military forces, operating on certain bands, due to a quirk of signals in that frequency: under certain atmosphere conditions: they have a tendency to can bounce off of one of the upper layers of the atmosphere, using it like a reflector to bankshot transmissions around the curvature of the Earth.
24th Dec '15 6:49:33 AM Dcrew
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: While the French Groupe Mobile 100 was involved in several ambushes, none led to the unit being wiped out to the last man.
24th Aug '15 5:11:09 AM Dcrew
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: At the end of the opening scene, the look on the Viet Minh soldier's face strongly suggests he isn't happy with the order his superior just gave him.
15th Jul '15 7:06:09 AM AFP
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* HopelessWar: Even though the US troops win the battle, Moore foreshadows a few times during the film the real life issues the US will end up facing in Vietnam and ultimately prevent them from achieving victory. Lt. Col. An also says something at the end of the movie along the lines that a lot of people will die to land both sides in the same place they were in before (although that could be extrapolated to saying that this is the end-result of all wars ultimately).
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* HopelessWar: Even though the US troops win the battle, Moore foreshadows a few times during the film the real life issues the US will end up facing in Vietnam and ultimately prevent them from achieving victory. Lt. Col. An also says something at the end of the movie along the lines that a lot of people will die to land both sides in the same place they were in before (although that could be extrapolated to saying that [[WarIsHell this is the end-result of all wars ultimately).ultimately]]).
14th Jul '15 10:48:16 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** The scenes that critics complained were cheesy, corny, melodramatic or unrealistic tended to be the ones lifted ''directly from real life!'' This includes lines said by soldiers as they were dying. In the director's commentary the director himself brings this up, which makes the rather ironic point that it would have been far more unrealistic if the soldiers had said something witty or clever as they were lying dying in enormous pain with little mental faculties left.
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** The scenes that critics complained were cheesy, corny, melodramatic or unrealistic tended to be the ones lifted ''directly from real life!'' This includes lines said by soldiers as they were dying. In the director's commentary the director himself brings this up, which makes the rather ironic point that it would have been far more unrealistic if the soldiers had said something witty or clever as they were lying dying in enormous pain with little mental faculties left. Critics also tend to forget that the dark cynicism now associated with the Vietnam War only set in as the conflict dragged on for years; soldiers going into combat and civilians at home were both quite optimistic and supportive at the outset of the war, so a dying soldier declaring how proud he is to give his life for his country wasn't exactly out of the ordinary.
16th Mar '15 10:36:23 AM USABobcat
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** Colonel Hal Moore. In one example, he watches helicopters flying overhead when he first moves into his new post. He later goes to talk to the pilots while they're playing an impromptu baseball game. He first compliments them for flying on a weekend even though they didn't have to, and states that since pilots won't fly into an area for anyone they don't know, he goes to introduce himself to them. [[spoiler:This pays off in spades later, as Major Crandall and the other pilots fly continuously to Colonel Moore's position to help ferry troops and supplies, and evacuate the wounded, all while under fire from the Vietcong no less.]]
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** Colonel Hal Moore. In one example, he watches helicopters flying overhead when he first moves into his new post. He later goes to talk to the pilots while they're playing an impromptu baseball game. He first compliments them for flying on a weekend even though they didn't have to, and states that since pilots won't fly into an area for anyone they don't know, he goes to introduce himself to them. [[spoiler:This pays off in spades later, as Major Crandall and the other pilots fly continuously to Colonel Moore's position to help ferry troops and supplies, and evacuate the wounded, all while under fire from the Vietcong no less. This is after the medevac helicopters refuse to land because of how dangerous the situation is.]]
14th Mar '15 3:12:33 PM Morgenthaler
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Misuse. It's Genre Savvy, not just "savvy".
* GenreSavvy: Both Colonel Moore and Sergeant Major Plumley, due to their lengthy military experience. ** Moore arrives at a section of the American Line that's too quiet. When asked what's wrong he explains, "There's nothing wrong here...[[ItsQuietTooQuiet except that there's nothing wrong...]]" He orders his troops to fire a few shots at anything they see that looks suspicious, inciting a massive gunfight as the hidden Vietnamese troops return fire. *** Another example of TruthInTelevision. This strategy of flushing out the enemy with random gunfire is called "The Mad Minute" *** It is also known as Recon By Fire, shooting into an area to get the enemy to respond by moving or shooting back. *** And in the British Army, the Mad Minute is, in training, hitting a 12" target at 200 yards 15 times in one minute.
6th Mar '15 7:40:49 PM AFP
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* AcePilot: Major Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall and his right-hand man, Too Tall, are UH-1 Huey pilots, who fly in and out of heavily contested landing zones to drop off troops and supplies, and to collect the wounded.
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* AcePilot: Major Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall and his right-hand man, Too Tall, Ed "Too Tall" Freeman, are UH-1 Huey pilots, who fly in and out of heavily contested landing zones to drop off troops and supplies, and to collect the wounded.wounded. In RealLife, both men received the Medal of Honor for their actions during the battle.
25th Feb '15 12:16:45 PM maxwellsilver
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** Berets are worn the correct way with the insignia over the left eye, with infantry cap badges instead of paratrooper badges. The French are unique in wearing the insignia over the right eye, for whatever reason. At least one officer wears the Foreign Legion's iconic kepi blanc. The soldiers involved in the ambush were not Legionnaires and were able to push back and survive the ambush, albeit sustaining severe casualties in the process.
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** Berets are worn the correct way with the insignia over the left eye, with infantry cap badges instead of paratrooper badges. The French are unique in wearing the insignia over the right eye, for whatever reason. At least one officer wears the Foreign Legion's iconic kepi blanc. The soldiers involved in the ambush were not Legionnaires and were able to push back the ambush and survive the ambush, withdraw, albeit sustaining suffering severe casualties in the process.
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