History Film / Volcano

11th May '17 7:04:41 AM lolface123
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** Possibly the most egregious example is whenever there's shots of the lava actually erupting from the nascent Mount Wilshire: the pretty splashing and high arcing of the very liquid lava is stock footage of Hawaiian volcanic activity, which only occurs ''in Hawaii''.
11th May '17 7:00:21 AM lolface123
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** There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic or phreatomagmatic. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a ''[[TooDumbToLive crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be levelled by pyroclastic base surges.]]'' [[note]]this strategy did work during the eruption of Heimaey in Iceland in 1973 - enough seawater was pumped onto a moving lava flow to create a solid wall and divert the flow, although fortunately they didn't try to put out the volcano itself.[[/note]]

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** There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic or phreatomagmatic. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a ''[[TooDumbToLive crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be levelled by pyroclastic base surges.]]'' [[note]]this strategy did work during the eruption of Heimaey in Iceland in 1973 - enough seawater was pumped onto a moving lava flow to create a solid wall and divert the flow, although fortunately they didn't try to put out saving the volcano itself.harbour.[[/note]]
11th May '17 6:58:18 AM lolface123
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** There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic or phreatomagmatic. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a ''[[TooDumbToLive crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be levelled by pyroclastic base surges.]]'' [[note]]this strategy did work during the eruption of Heimaey in Iceland in 1973 - enough seawater was pumped onto a moving lava flow to create a solid wall and divert the flow.[[/note]]

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** There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic or phreatomagmatic. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a ''[[TooDumbToLive crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be levelled by pyroclastic base surges.]]'' [[note]]this strategy did work during the eruption of Heimaey in Iceland in 1973 - enough seawater was pumped onto a moving lava flow to create a solid wall and divert the flow.flow, although fortunately they didn't try to put out the volcano itself.[[/note]]
15th Apr '17 9:14:50 PM GroLor
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*** On the other hand, I sit about 3 feet in front of my forge to judge the heating of metal, and that reaches about 2300 degrees Farenheit when I want to forge weld steel. Heat treating blades is generally done around 1500F, and I'm not wearing anything more protective than a leather apron.
*** Quantity of molten material may well be important, though. I sincerely doubt your leather apron would be adequate protection against a literal lake of lava surrounding you, and all the heat that will radiate.
15th Apr '17 9:10:26 PM GroLor
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** In some scenes lava represents no threat to anything it isn't directly touching. Even if you're directly above it and a few feet away, inside or on top of a metal vehicle that is actually melting in the heat. Then in another scene, Roark, 10 feet above a lava flow, can't even hold his hand over it for more than a second without great pain(which is what it would be like in real life.) Basically convection that works by the RuleOfCool.
** The weirdest example was the death of Stan, jumping into a lava flow to save a life (See HeroicSacrifice). He didn't simply burst into flame and vaporize when he hits the lava; he ''[[ImMelting melts]]''. Guy had a skeleton of titanium, and it still didn't save him. Neither did his ability to stand five feet above molten lava unscathed as a ''subway car'' lierally melts(complete with ''dripping metal'') around him.

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** In some scenes lava represents no threat to anything it isn't directly touching. Even if you're directly above it and a few feet away, inside or on top of a metal vehicle that is actually melting in the heat. Then in another scene, Roark, 10 feet above a lava flow, can't even hold his hand over it for more than a second without great pain(which pain (which is what it would be like in real life.) Basically convection that works by the RuleOfCool.
** The weirdest example was the death of Stan, jumping into a lava flow to save a life (See HeroicSacrifice). He didn't simply burst into flame and vaporize when he hits the lava; he ''[[ImMelting melts]]''. Guy had a skeleton of titanium, and it still didn't save him. Neither did his ability to stand five feet above molten lava unscathed as a ''subway car'' lierally melts(complete melts (complete with ''dripping metal'') around him.



* SoftGlass: Immediately following an ItsQuietTooQuiet / OhCrap scene where the roar of seismic and volcanic activity suddenly stops, there is an explosion that results in the windows of all the surrounding buildings getting blown out. The glass from this visibly (and hilariously) strikes Jaye directly in the face, as well as showering Mike. They both shake it off like they wouldn't have been cut to shreds.(To clarify: what lands on Roark and Jaye is obviously safety(automobile) glass, but in the U.S.A. at least, that type of glass is never used in buildings because of its relative fragility - the exact reason it ''is'' used in cars).

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* SoftGlass: Immediately following an ItsQuietTooQuiet / OhCrap scene where the roar of seismic and volcanic activity suddenly stops, there is an explosion that results in the windows of all the surrounding buildings getting blown out. The glass from this visibly (and hilariously) strikes Jaye directly in the face, as well as showering Mike. They both shake it off like they wouldn't have been cut to shreds. (To clarify: what lands on Roark and Jaye is obviously safety(automobile) safety automobile glass, but in the U.S.A. at least, that type of glass is never used in buildings because of its relative fragility - the exact reason it ''is'' used in cars).
27th Mar '17 6:38:26 AM Gemfyre
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** There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic or phreatomagmatic. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a ''[[TooDumbToLive crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be levelled by pyroclastic base surges.]]''

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** There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic or phreatomagmatic. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a ''[[TooDumbToLive crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be levelled by pyroclastic base surges.]]'']]'' [[note]]this strategy did work during the eruption of Heimaey in Iceland in 1973 - enough seawater was pumped onto a moving lava flow to create a solid wall and divert the flow.[[/note]]
22nd Mar '17 2:00:41 PM BadgerBadger
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* WorstAid: Zigzagged and not in a good way with the down firefighters. Roark tells someone he believes to be a civilian to not move down personnel and that ambulances are on the way - good. Roark (who is not a medic) defers to medical expertise once the civilian identifies themselves as a doctor - good. Dr. Calder assessing injuries for severity and determining trauma care she can't provide is needed - good. Dr. Calder opting to transport serious vehicle accident casualties in a civilian car with no immobilization - '''not good!''' Roark ''just told her'' that ambulances are on the way (this is the middle of otherwise normal Los Angeles, this claim will be valid), paramedics are good at stabilizing serious vehicle accident casualties, and both of these people may have CNS injuries that can be ''lethal'' if not immobilized.
** Ironically the circumstances at the end of the movie (field hospital being overrun by lava) do justify such antics with the "certain death" angle.

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* WorstAid: Zigzagged and not in a good way with the down firefighters. Roark tells someone he believes to be a civilian to not move down personnel and that ambulances are on the way - good. Roark (who is not a medic) defers to medical expertise once the civilian identifies themselves as a doctor - good. Dr. Calder assessing injuries for severity and determining trauma care she can't provide is needed - good. Dr. Calder opting to transport serious vehicle accident casualties in a civilian car with no immobilization - '''not good!''' Roark ''just told her'' that ambulances are on the way (this is the middle of otherwise normal Los Angeles, this claim will be valid), paramedics are good at stabilizing serious vehicle accident casualties, and both of these people may have CNS injuries that can be ''lethal'' if not immobilized. \n** Ironically the circumstances at the end of the movie (field hospital being overrun by lava) do justify such antics with the "certain death" angle.
22nd Mar '17 1:35:32 PM BadgerBadger
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** Given she is the assistant to doctorate geologist Amy, you would expect Rachel to know a thing or two about rocks and volcanoes. Rachel even backs Amy's theory about volcanic activity being a culprit regarding the death for seven men in an underground tunnel. Yet, while they investigate ''that very tunnel'', Rachel decides to straddle a large crack surrounded by sulfur residue. [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong What could possibly go wrong?]]

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** Given she is the assistant to doctorate geologist Amy, you would expect Rachel to know a thing or two about rocks and volcanoes. Rachel even backs Amy's theory about volcanic activity being a culprit regarding the death for seven men in an underground tunnel. Yet, while they investigate ''that very tunnel'', Rachel decides to straddle a large crack surrounded by sulfur residue. [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong What could possibly go wrong?]]wrong?]]
* WorstAid: Zigzagged and not in a good way with the down firefighters. Roark tells someone he believes to be a civilian to not move down personnel and that ambulances are on the way - good. Roark (who is not a medic) defers to medical expertise once the civilian identifies themselves as a doctor - good. Dr. Calder assessing injuries for severity and determining trauma care she can't provide is needed - good. Dr. Calder opting to transport serious vehicle accident casualties in a civilian car with no immobilization - '''not good!''' Roark ''just told her'' that ambulances are on the way (this is the middle of otherwise normal Los Angeles, this claim will be valid), paramedics are good at stabilizing serious vehicle accident casualties, and both of these people may have CNS injuries that can be ''lethal'' if not immobilized.
** Ironically the circumstances at the end of the movie (field hospital being overrun by lava) do justify such antics with the "certain death" angle.
20th Mar '17 3:16:25 PM TheFuzzinator
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*** For that matter, Tommy, the aforesaid kid, who leaves the restaurant (which contains someone who is taking care of him, and another little girl he's been playing games with) and wanders out into an empty parking garage for ''literally no reason''. And, as mentioned above, makes it all the way out to the street, alone, when any sensible kid ought to have been terrified to be away from an adult.
19th Mar '17 8:17:45 PM TheFuzzinator
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* HeroStoleMyBike: At one point, Roark steals a cop's motorcycle.
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