History Film / Valkyrie

22nd Feb '18 6:47:02 PM nombretomado
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* EurekaMoment: Guess [[Creator/RichardWagner what]] Stauffenberg is listening to when he gets the idea for Operation ''Valkyrie''?

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* EurekaMoment: Guess [[Creator/RichardWagner [[Music/RichardWagner what]] Stauffenberg is listening to when he gets the idea for Operation ''Valkyrie''?
2nd Jan '18 2:39:10 PM petersohn
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* PetTheDog: Hitler at the Berghof does this, literally.
22nd Dec '17 1:37:18 PM SoapheadChurch
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* HangingJudge: Judge Roland Freisler.

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* HangingJudge: Judge Roland Freisler. He's actually toned down a bit in the film compared to how he was in real life.



* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: The plotters are portrayed as this in the film. Apparently the [[http://www.verbrechen-der-wehrmacht.de/docs/home_e.htm German officer corps actually cared about Jewish people, was disgusted by their slaughter]], and masterminded a plot to assassinate Hitler that would include the closing of concentration camps. In reality the German officer corps, especially the aristocratic elements that made up a fair chunk of it and the plotters, were strongly authoritarian and murderously anti-leftist and pro-German. Covert Republicans who believed in equality and democracy they were ''not''. In many cases, the plotters only turned on Hitler because he was losing the war, and had every intention of fighting on against the Soviet Union. It is however true that it would have been difficult for the audience to get behind protagonists who disagreed with less than 20% of Nazi ideology.
** Stauffenberg [[http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/GENOCIDE/reviewstr12.htm viewed Poland as "an unbelievable rabble" best under the whip, and as a country filled with "a lot of Jews and a lot of cross-breeds"]]. However, he was disgusted when he later learned that Jews were being rounded up and shot ''en masse'', which was reportedly a factor in him turning against Hitler.
** That said, they weren't ALL vehement racists and autocrats. Tresckow in particular had genuine moral objections to Hitler and believed the plot had to go forward even if it was doomed to fail just to show that there was a resistance (not surprisingly, the movie includes this).
** There is a lot of controversy about the ideological principles of the plotters. We do know that they intended to stop the Final Solution, that they wanted to continue the fight against the Soviet Union, and that they intended to establish at least a token/weak democracy in the vein of Imperial Germany. We also know that they hoped to retain Hitler's pre-war conquests--Austria, the Sudetenland, Memel--as well as the "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor Polish Corridor]]", transferred from Poland to Germany after World War I and annexed back to Germany after Hitler conquered Poland at the start of World War II. We don't know much else, including why they and most of their families were executed, as there were very few living witnesses to convey their motives.

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: The plotters are portrayed as this in the film. Apparently the [[http://www.verbrechen-der-wehrmacht.de/docs/home_e.htm German officer corps actually cared about Jewish people, was disgusted by their slaughter]], and masterminded a plot to assassinate Hitler There's no doubt that would include the closing of concentration camps.plotters were not Nazis, but certainly were not covert Republicans who believed in equality and democracy. In reality the German officer corps, especially the aristocratic elements that made up a fair chunk of it and the plotters, were strongly authoritarian and murderously anti-leftist and pro-German. Covert Republicans who believed in equality and democracy they were ''not''. In many cases, the plotters only turned on Hitler because he was losing the war, and had every intention of fighting on against the Soviet Union. It is however true that it would have been difficult Stauffenberg, for the audience to get behind protagonists who disagreed with less than 20% of Nazi ideology.
** Stauffenberg
example, [[http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/GENOCIDE/reviewstr12.htm viewed Poland as "an unbelievable rabble" best under the whip, and as a country filled with "a lot of Jews and a lot of cross-breeds"]]. However, he was disgusted when he later learned that Jews were being rounded up and shot ''en masse'', which was reportedly a factor in him turning against Hitler.
** That said, they weren't ALL vehement racists
Hitler. The [[http://www.verbrechen-der-wehrmacht.de/docs/home_e.htm German officer corps apparently actually cared about Jewish people, was disgusted by their slaughter]], and autocrats. Tresckow in particular had genuine moral objections masterminded a plot to assassinate Hitler and believed the plot had to go forward even if it was doomed to fail just to show that there was a resistance (not surprisingly, would include the movie includes this).
** There is a lot
closing of controversy about the ideological principles of the plotters. concentration camps. We do know that they intended to stop the Final Solution, that they wanted to continue the fight against the Soviet Union, and that they intended to establish at least a token/weak democracy in the vein of Imperial Germany. We However, we also know that they hoped to retain Hitler's pre-war conquests--Austria, the Sudetenland, Memel--as well as the "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor Polish Corridor]]", transferred from Poland to Germany after World War I and annexed back to Germany after Hitler conquered Poland at the start of World War II. In many cases, the plotters only turned on Hitler because he was losing the war, and had every intention of fighting on against the Soviet Union. We don't know much else, including why they and most of their families were executed, as there were very few living witnesses to convey their motives. It is however true that it would have been difficult for the audience to get behind protagonists who disagreed with less than 20% of Nazi ideology. That said, they weren't ALL vehement racists and autocrats. Tresckow in particular had genuine moral objections to Hitler and believed the plot had to go forward even if it was doomed to fail just to show that there was a resistance (not surprisingly, the movie includes this).



* KillEmAll

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* KillEmAllKillEmAll: Discussed at one point. Goerdeler and others insist that all members of the high command have to be killed in order for any coup to be successful. Stauffenberg thinks he's just making excuses not to kill Hitler because he doesn't have the guts.



* ShellShockSilence

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* ShellShockSilenceShellShockSilence: During the air raid in Africa that costs Stauffenberg his eye and arm.



* ThoseWackyNazis

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* ThoseWackyNazisThoseWackyNazis: Averted. The only Nazis whose sanity is questioned are Hitler and Himmler. All of the rest are simply fanatics loyal to Hitler or officials loyal to the oath they swore to him.
22nd Dec '17 12:49:01 PM SoapheadChurch
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** Friedrich Fromm [[spoiler: makes it plain from the off he won't support them while Hitler is alive, quickly abandons and tries to arrest them when it becomes apparent Hitler is still alive and then, in an ultimately futile bid to save his own skin, has the conspirators hastily court-martialled and shot, contravening direct orders from Hitler that they be taken alive.]]

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** Friedrich Fromm [[spoiler: makes it plain from the off he won't support them while Hitler is alive, quickly abandons and tries to arrest them when it becomes apparent Hitler is still alive and then, in an ultimately futile bid to save his own skin, has the conspirators hastily court-martialled and shot, contravening direct orders from Hitler that they be taken alive.]]



* DisasterDominoes: The plot fails due to the briefing being held in the conference hut rather than the bunker, Stauffenberg being interrupted before he can arm the second bomb, and Colonel Brandt moving the briefcase to the other side of a table leg between him and Hitler.

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* DisasterDominoes: The plot fails due to the briefing being held in the conference hut rather than the bunker, Stauffenberg being interrupted before he can arm the second bomb, and Colonel Brandt moving the briefcase to the other side of a table leg between him and Hitler. It's generally agreed that if ''any'' of these three things had not happened, Hitler would have been killed.



* EvilIsPetty: Fromm [[spoiler: makes it plain he doesn't mind looking the other way so long as Keitel, who has spent a good part of the film's first half chewing him out and humiliating him, gets what's coming to him]].
-->'''Fromm''': I don't know what you're brewing up and I don't want to know. [[spoiler: But when the music stops, I'd be obliged if Keitel found himself without a chair]].

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* EvilIsPetty: Fromm [[spoiler: makes it plain he doesn't mind looking the other way so long as Keitel, who has spent a good part of the film's first half chewing him out and humiliating him, gets what's coming to him]].
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-->'''Fromm''': I don't know what you're brewing up and I don't want to know. [[spoiler: But when the music stops, I'd be obliged if Keitel found himself without a chair]].chair.



* FamousLastWords: "Es lebe unser heiliges Deutschland!". Translates to "Long live our sacred Germany", but the film truncated it a bit, removing the "our" (to be fair, there is some dispute about the actual form of [[spoiler:Stauffenberg's last words]]; his biographer, Joseph Hoffmann, makes a good case for [[spoiler:"Es lebe das geheime Deutschland!" ("Long live the secret Germany!")]]

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* FamousLastWords: "Es lebe unser heiliges Deutschland!". Translates to "Long live our sacred Germany", but the film truncated it a bit, removing the "our" (to be fair, there is some dispute about the actual form of [[spoiler:Stauffenberg's Stauffenberg's last words]]; words; his biographer, Joseph Hoffmann, makes a good case for [[spoiler:"Es "Es lebe das geheime Deutschland!" ("Long live the secret Germany!")]]Germany!")



* LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain: When Olbricht and Stauffenberg attempt to recruit Fromm a little too openly, he reminds them they are bound by oath to serve the Fuhrer. [[spoiler: He then disconnects the (presumably bugged) phone and tells the pair he will overlook what they just said on the understanding they never do so in his presence again]].

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* LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain: When Olbricht and Stauffenberg attempt to recruit Fromm a little too openly, he reminds them they are bound by oath to serve the Fuhrer. [[spoiler: He then disconnects the (presumably bugged) phone and tells the pair he will overlook what they just said on the understanding they never do so in his presence again]].again.



* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: [[spoiler: General Fromm ends up executed just like all the other plotters, even though he betrayed them at the last moment. It's pointed out to him that he'll hang just like the rest of them. His treachery only earns him a few extra months of life in the end and a firing squad as opposed to a hangman's noose.]]

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* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: [[spoiler: General Fromm ends up executed just like all the other plotters, even though he betrayed them at the last moment. It's pointed out to him that he'll hang just like the rest of them. His treachery only earns him a few extra months of life in the end and a firing squad as opposed to a hangman's noose.]]



* SpannerInTheWorks: [[spoiler:The assassination attempt is defeated by the weather: it's too hot so Hitler moves the briefing out of the ''Führerbunker'', where the concrete surrounds would have amplified the explosion's pressure wave, and into a more open-plan outbuilding where the windows and weaker walls absorb some of the energy]]. Colonel Heinz Brandt also moves the briefcase containing the bomb to the other side of a table leg, creating an additional barrier between the blast and Hitler, but ironically causing his own death.
* SuspiciouslyAproposMusic: The Wagnerian record in Stauffenberg's house, which serves as the inspiration for the operation's title. Semi-[[JustifiedTrope justified]], as the [[spoiler:bombing of Stauffenberg's house]] would logically push back the needle on the record, bringing it to the start again.

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* SpannerInTheWorks: [[spoiler:The The assassination attempt is defeated by the weather: it's too hot so Hitler moves the briefing out of the ''Führerbunker'', where the concrete surrounds would have amplified the explosion's pressure wave, and into a more open-plan outbuilding where the windows and weaker walls absorb some of the energy]].energy. Colonel Heinz Brandt also moves the briefcase containing the bomb to the other side of a table leg, creating an additional barrier between the blast and Hitler, but ironically causing his own death.
* SuspiciouslyAproposMusic: The Wagnerian record in Stauffenberg's house, which serves as the inspiration for the operation's title. Semi-[[JustifiedTrope justified]], as the [[spoiler:bombing bombing of Stauffenberg's house]] house would logically push back the needle on the record, bringing it to the start again.
16th Dec '17 5:40:22 AM Saveelich
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''Valkyrie'' is a 2008 historical drama film about the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen attempted]] assassination of UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by a dedicated cabal of [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German military officers]], as well as some non-military personnel. It stars Creator/TomCruise, Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/BillNighy, Creator/EddieIzzard, Creator/TerenceStamp and Tom Wilkinson.

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''Valkyrie'' is a 2008 historical drama film about the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen attempted]] assassination of UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by a dedicated cabal of [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German military officers]], as well as some non-military personnel. It stars Creator/TomCruise, Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/BillNighy, Creator/EddieIzzard, Creator/TerenceStamp Creator/TerenceStamp, Tom Wilkinson and Tom Wilkinson.
Creator/CariceVanHouten.
16th Dec '17 5:39:48 AM Saveelich
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''Valkyrie'' is a 2008 historical drama film about the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen attempted]] assassination of UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by a dedicated cabal of [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German military officers]], as well as some non-military personnel. It stars Creator/TomCruise, Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/BillNighy, Creator/EddieIzzard, Creator/TerenceStamp and Creator/TomWilkinson.

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''Valkyrie'' is a 2008 historical drama film about the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen attempted]] assassination of UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by a dedicated cabal of [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German military officers]], as well as some non-military personnel. It stars Creator/TomCruise, Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/BillNighy, Creator/EddieIzzard, Creator/TerenceStamp and Creator/TomWilkinson.
Tom Wilkinson.
5th Dec '17 3:01:56 AM jormis29
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''Valkyrie'' is a 2008 historical drama film about the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen attempted]] assassination of UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by a dedicated cabal of [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German military officers]], as well as some non-military personnel. It stars Creator/TomCruise, Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/BillNighy, Creator/EddieIzzard, Terence Stamp and Tom Wilkinson.

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''Valkyrie'' is a 2008 historical drama film about the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen attempted]] assassination of UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler by a dedicated cabal of [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German military officers]], as well as some non-military personnel. It stars Creator/TomCruise, Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/BillNighy, Creator/EddieIzzard, Terence Stamp Creator/TerenceStamp and Tom Wilkinson.
Creator/TomWilkinson.
13th Nov '17 11:23:17 AM LtFedora
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** General Ludwig Beck is depicted wearing civilian clothes during the coup. He was actually wearing his uniform. In addition, Stauffenberg wore his white summer uniform instead of his grey field uniform.

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** General Ludwig Beck is depicted wearing civilian clothes during the coup. He was actually wearing his uniform. In addition, Stauffenberg wore his white summer uniform instead of his grey field uniform.
30th Oct '17 1:57:16 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* JustAStupidAccent: A notable aversion in that the majority of the cast does ''not'' speak English with a German accent to represent speaking German. All actors use their natural accents with the exception of British actor David Bamber, who plays Hitler with a German accent, as the filmmakers believed the audience would find it distracting if Hitler spoke in anything other than a German accent.



* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: All of the conspirators with the exception of Merz (played by German Christian Berkel) sound British or American. David Bamber (British) as Hitler ''does'' bother. This was done because the filmmakers believed the audience would find it distracting if Hitler spoke in anything other than a German accent.
30th Oct '17 1:39:14 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ComplexityAddiction: The apparent reason behind the plot's failure. In RealLife, [[LaResistance 'the military opposition']] (such as it was) had planned ever since the inception of the Valkyrie plot, in chronological order: shoot the Führer at Smolensk (stopped by Field Marshal von Kluge), detonate a bomb hidden in a cognac bottle in his private plane (malfunctioned), detonate a bomb at the display of Red Army flags at the Berlin Armory (the Führer rushed through and the fuse had no time to engage), [[HeroicSuicide Axel von dem Bussche's attempt to detonate a bomb hidden in his uniform and die together with Hitler]] (the uniform display got cancelled) and so on.\\
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However, Luftwaffe General Karl Koller testified (in front of an American judge after the war) that Stauffenberg and himself often were called to the Führer's study to discuss military issues, alone and carrying their service pistols, [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim and that simply drawing the pistol and shooting Hitler in the face would have been much quicker and simpler]], even if it assumed [[HeroicSacrifice the perpetrator being shot himself by the guardsmen]] afterwards.
** Part of this was justified because the planners realized that killing Hitler was not an Instant Win Condition; merely shooting Hitler would not have eliminated the National Socialist dictatorship because fanatics like Joseph Goebbels and powerful elites like Heinrich Himmler could simply take up Hitler's torch and become the new Fuhrer. This was why the plan was to try and kill Hitler, Himmler, AND Goering to completely decapitate the military and security apparatus, and then bag Goebbels during the plot to eliminate the party's Mouthpiece. Going ahead with the plan without the other two in the Bunker was the result of desperation from rumors that the SS were closing in on them.
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