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9th Apr '17 3:37:55 PM ErikModi
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* PoorCommunicationKills: As it turns out, HAL's killing spree was the result of this. He had been ordered to hide the true nature of the mission from the crew until they reached Jupiter. This conflicted with HAL's programming not to conceal or distort information. Since he couldn't tell anyone the truth, nor could he reject his original programming, he tried to cut off communication with Earth and, when that failed and his very existence was threatened, he tried to kill the crew and continue the mission solo.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: As it turns out, HAL's killing spree was the result of this. He had been ordered to hide the true nature of the mission from the crew until they reached Jupiter. This conflicted with HAL's programming not to conceal or distort information. Since he couldn't tell anyone the truth, nor could he reject his original programming, he tried to cut off communication with Earth and, when that failed and his very existence was threatened, he tried to kill the crew and continue the mission solo. Apparently, no one who gave HAL the order thought to ReadTheFreakingManual or ask any of HAL's inventors if giving the super-honest AI secret orders would cause a problem. And no one mentioned it to Floyd, either.
9th Apr '17 3:15:58 PM ErikModi
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** Subverted: Bowman shifts around in age several times during the conversation, and at one point transforms into the Starchild, which understandably throws Floyd for a loop.
31st Mar '17 12:50:22 PM SuddenFrost
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* PoorCommunicationKills: As it turns out, HAL's killing spree was the result of this. He had been ordered to hide the true nature of the experiment from the crew until they reached Jupiter. This conflicted with HAL's programming. Since he couldn't tell anyone the truth, but nor could he reject his original programming, he tried to cut off communication with Earth and, when that failed and his very existence was threatened, he tried to kill the crew and continue the mission solo.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: As it turns out, HAL's killing spree was the result of this. He had been ordered to hide the true nature of the experiment mission from the crew until they reached Jupiter. This conflicted with HAL's programming. programming not to conceal or distort information. Since he couldn't tell anyone the truth, but nor could he reject his original programming, he tried to cut off communication with Earth and, when that failed and his very existence was threatened, he tried to kill the crew and continue the mission solo.
9th Feb '17 1:22:04 PM Scifimaster92
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** Due to its close proximity, Jupiter's radiation belts would render life on that moon virtually impossible. While not as lethal as Io, on the surface of Europa radiation is still very bad. A human standing there would absorb a lethal dose in a matter of hours. [[spoiler: And if Jupiter became a low mass star, it doesn't change the fact that the moon is tidally locked to the former. One side will end up always facing the star becoming scorching hot, the other, plunged into eternal frozen night.]]

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** Due to its close proximity, Jupiter's radiation belts would render life on that moon virtually impossible. While not as lethal as Io, on the surface of Europa radiation is still very bad. A human standing there would absorb a lethal dose in a matter of hours. [[spoiler: And if Jupiter became a low mass star, or more accurately a brown dwarf, it doesn't change the fact that the moon is tidally locked to the former. One side will end up always facing the star becoming scorching hot, the other, plunged into eternal frozen night.]]
9th Dec '16 4:03:13 PM SuddenFrost
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->''"We have been given a new lease -- [[YouHaveBeenWarned and a warning]] -- from the landlord."''

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->''"We are only tenants on this world. We have been given a new lease -- [[YouHaveBeenWarned and a warning]] -- from the landlord."''
9th Dec '16 3:00:26 PM AnotherGuy
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** "Chlorophyll! ''Chlorophyll''!"
9th Dec '16 2:58:19 PM AnotherGuy
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->''"We have been given a new lease -- [[YouHaveBeenWarned and a warning]] -- from the landlord."''
9th Dec '16 2:53:43 PM AnotherGuy
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* VaguenessIsComing: One assumes "[[spoiler: the monolith is going to transform Jupiter into a sun]]" would be too hard for folks to understand.
-->'''Almost everyone Dave Bowman talks to:''' What's going to happen?\\\
'''Dave Bowman:''' [[BrokenRecord Something wonderful]].

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* VaguenessIsComing: One assumes "[[spoiler: the monolith is going to transform Jupiter into a sun]]" sun and give rise to a new sapient life form in the future]]" would be too hard for folks to understand.
-->'''Almost everyone Dave Bowman talks to:''' What's going to happen?\\\
happen?\\
'''Dave Bowman:''' [[BrokenRecord Something wonderful]].[[note]]To his credit, he's right.[[/note]]
6th Dec '16 5:38:44 AM Kitch
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-->'''Brailovsky''': Easy as cake.
-->'''Curnow''': ''Pie.'' Easy as pie.
-->'''Brailovsky''': Piece of pie.
-->'''Curnow''': Piece of ''cake.''

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-->'''Brailovsky''': Easy as cake.
-->'''Curnow''':
cake.\\
'''Curnow:'''
''Pie.'' Easy as pie.
-->'''Brailovsky''':
pie.\\
'''Brailovsky:'''
Piece of pie.
-->'''Curnow''':
pie.\\
'''Curnow:'''
Piece of ''cake.''



* MeaningfulEcho: Dave finally contacts HAL [[spoiler:before Jupiter ignites]].
-->'''HAL:''' I'm afraid.\\
'''Dave Bowman:''' Don't be. We'll be together.



-->'''Floyd:''' It has to be at least a hundred below zero.
-->'''Brailovsky:''' A typical Russian winter.
-->'''Curnow:''' I'm from California, [[YiddishAsASecondLanguage we don't know from]] a hundred below zero.

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-->'''Floyd:''' It has to be at least a hundred below zero.
-->'''Brailovsky:'''
zero.\\
'''Brailovsky:'''
A typical Russian winter.
-->'''Curnow:'''
winter.\\
'''Curnow:'''
I'm from California, [[YiddishAsASecondLanguage we don't know from]] a hundred below zero.



-->'''Almost everyone Dave Bowman talks to:''' What's going to happen?
-->'''Dave Bowman:''' [[BrokenRecord Something wonderful]].

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-->'''Almost everyone Dave Bowman talks to:''' What's going to happen?
-->'''Dave
happen?\\\
'''Dave
Bowman:''' [[BrokenRecord Something wonderful]].
30th Nov '16 5:48:38 PM JoeShadows
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** This also occurs after HAL knowingly performs the maneuver that will save the Leonov crew [[HeroicSacrifice at the cost of his own existence]]. This could be seen as redeeming him for the murder of the Discovery's original crew.
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