History Film / ThirteenDays

22nd Jun '17 7:54:40 AM Parable
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* PetTheDog: The Kennedys are thrown a bone by [=LeMay=], of all people, when he agrees with their decision to hold off punitive air strikes on missile sites that have shot down one of their aircraft.
-->'''[=LeMay=]:''' If nothing else, it'll [[InterserviceRivalry light a fire under the army's ass to get their troops in place.]]

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* PetTheDog: The Kennedys are thrown a bone by [=LeMay=], of all people, a hawk who has done nothing by disagree with the administration, when he agrees with their decision to hold off punitive air strikes on missile sites that have shot down one of their aircraft.
aircraft. He had just been embarrassed during the meeting when his own lack of oversight greatly escalated the crisis and made him tone down his hawkish stances.
-->'''[=LeMay=]:''' If nothing else, it'll [[InterserviceRivalry light I think that's a fire under good idea, Mr. President. It'll be safer for my boys to go in on Monday when we get the army's ass to get their troops in place.]]rest of the bastards.
13th Jun '17 9:55:44 PM nombretomado
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** Chief of Staff of the Air Force General Curtis [=LeMay=] seems awfully eager for shooting to start - and yes, he ''really was'' like that. [[WorldWarTwo He cut his teeth killing Japanese civilians for Freedom]]. Although he's probably the most prominent example, in general the high-up military leaders are commonly depicted as Cold Warriors with an eagerness to fight a Soviet and slightly-too-itchy trigger fingers.

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** Chief of Staff of the Air Force General Curtis [=LeMay=] seems awfully eager for shooting to start - and yes, he ''really was'' like that. [[WorldWarTwo [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII He cut his teeth killing Japanese civilians for Freedom]]. Although he's probably the most prominent example, in general the high-up military leaders are commonly depicted as Cold Warriors with an eagerness to fight a Soviet and slightly-too-itchy trigger fingers.



* IrrevocableOrder: Discussed - President Kennedy uses the example of the just-publised ''The Guns of August'' talking about the lead-up to Usefulnotes/WorldWarI. He notes of how all the major powers had detailed war plans ready to go long before August 1914, but that those plans were outdated because the theories and tactics utilized were based on the last war. But it was all they knew so the orders went out, couldn't be rescinded, and hundreds of thousands of lives were wasted on a four-year stalemate.

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* IrrevocableOrder: Discussed - President Kennedy uses the example of the just-publised ''The Guns of August'' talking about the lead-up to Usefulnotes/WorldWarI.UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. He notes of how all the major powers had detailed war plans ready to go long before August 1914, but that those plans were outdated because the theories and tactics utilized were based on the last war. But it was all they knew so the orders went out, couldn't be rescinded, and hundreds of thousands of lives were wasted on a four-year stalemate.



* SinsOfOurFathers: The fact that Jack and Bobby's father is Joseph P. Kennedy, who was ambassador to Britain on the eve of UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 and was a major advocate of the policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany, is used several times in the movie by those who wanted a tougher stance made on the Soviets and thought that Kennedy was being too soft.

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* SinsOfOurFathers: The fact that Jack and Bobby's father is Joseph P. Kennedy, who was ambassador to Britain on the eve of UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and was a major advocate of the policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany, is used several times in the movie by those who wanted a tougher stance made on the Soviets and thought that Kennedy was being too soft.



* WeAreNotGoingThroughThatAgain: A historical version with John F. Kennedy citing ''The Guns of August'''s account of how the [[DisasterDominoes blunders of that time]] led to WorldWarOne and noting that there is no way he was going to repeat that story and set off WorldWarThree. On the opposing side the Joint Chiefs make repeated references to the [[HeadInTheSandManagement Munich agreement]] that signed away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis in 1938, the infamous source of the [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Peace in Our Time misquote.]]

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* WeAreNotGoingThroughThatAgain: A historical version with John F. Kennedy citing ''The Guns of August'''s account of how the [[DisasterDominoes blunders of that time]] led to WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and noting that there is no way he was going to repeat that story and set off WorldWarThree. On the opposing side the Joint Chiefs make repeated references to the [[HeadInTheSandManagement Munich agreement]] that signed away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis in 1938, the infamous source of the [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Peace in Our Time misquote.]]
25th Apr '17 9:59:40 AM megarockman
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* IntrepidReporter: An early obstacle for the White House when they want to keep the fact that they know about the missile sites out of the public's knowledge until Kennedy himself can announce it on TV - having the story break before a course of action is decided upon would cause a great deal of public chaos and ruin the administration's surprise advantage. However, it's quite difficult to hide the fact that your own military is conducting a previously unannounced military exercise in Puerto Rico or the troop movements that disrupt rail schedules all across the Southeast, especially in a country with the First Amendment. This comes to a head when the ''New York Times'' is about to blow the lid off on the missiles before Kennedy can announce the US government's action. Jack is able to get the editor to hold off by telling him to tell his writers that they would be saving lives, including their own.

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* IntrepidReporter: An early obstacle for the White House when they want to keep the fact that they know about the missile sites out of the public's knowledge until Kennedy himself can announce it on TV - having the story break before a course of action is decided upon would [[EndangeringNewsBroadcast cause a great deal of public chaos and ruin the administration's surprise advantage.advantage]]. However, it's quite difficult to hide the fact that your own military is conducting a previously unannounced military exercise in Puerto Rico or the troop movements that disrupt rail schedules all across the Southeast, especially in a country with the First Amendment. This comes to a head when the ''New York Times'' is about to blow the lid off on the missiles before Kennedy can announce the US government's action. Jack is able to get the editor to hold off by telling him to tell his writers that they would be saving lives, including their own.
18th Apr '17 10:08:50 AM megarockman
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: The early scene where O'Donnell was nearly tricked into signing his son's bad report card thanks to his rushed morning situation until he took a closer look becomes a major theme for the missile crisis itself for the Kennedy administration, namely having to actively stop and think through each decision when the outside situation was pressuring them into defaulting to the standard behavior which risked ending in utter disaster.



* FromBadToWorse: The last third of the movie is basically a series of these. Alluded to by name by Bobby when the situation starts spiraling down. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted when the Americans discover they were misinterpretating the recent events and things are not nearly as bad as they seemed at first.]]

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* FromBadToWorse: The last third of the movie is basically a series of these. Alluded to by name by Bobby when the situation starts spiraling down. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted when the Americans discover they were misinterpretating misinterpreting the recent events and things are not nearly as bad as they seemed at first.]]



** Why the ''New York Times'' was going to blow the lid off on the missiles (the editor witheld on the Bay of Pigs and got raked over the coals for it)

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** Why the ''New ''The New York Times'' was going to blow the lid off on the missiles (the editor witheld on the Bay of Pigs and got raked over the coals for it)



* WellIntentionedExtremist: The Joint Chiefs of Staff want to protect the United States just as much as Kennedy, but they believe it can only be achieved through war against Cuba and if necessary the Soviet Union, despite the danger that this may result in a nuclear exchange. They try to manipulate Kennedy into a situation where their men will be forced to start shooting. Discussed between Kennedy and Kenny, the latter of whom acknowledges that the Generals' intentions are understandable even if their behavior is extreme, and it may in fact [[TheExtremistWasRight end up having been the right call to make]].

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: The Joint Chiefs of Staff want to protect the United States just as much as Kennedy, but they believe it can only be achieved through war against Cuba and if necessary the Soviet Union, despite the danger that this may result in a nuclear exchange. They try to manipulate Kennedy into a situation where their men will be forced to start shooting. Discussed between Kennedy and Kenny, the latter of whom acknowledges that the Generals' generals' intentions are understandable even if their behavior is extreme, and it may in fact [[TheExtremistWasRight end up having been the right call to make]].



-->'''Bobby:''' I don't care if this administration ends up in the freaking toilet! We don't do a deal tonight, there won't be an administration.
** Adlai Stevenson was the only member of Ex-Comm that continually brought up the idea of a diplomatic solution before the decision to blockade Cuba was set, even though it makes him seem like a pushover weakling. He lampshaded it himself when he brought up the idea to trade Guantanamo Bay and the US missiles in Turkey in exchange, saying that someone should be the coward and it may as well be him.

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-->'''Bobby:''' I don't care if this administration ends up in the freaking toilet! We don't do a deal tonight, there won't be ''be'' an administration.
** Adlai Stevenson was the only member of Ex-Comm that continually brought up the idea of a diplomatic solution before the decision to blockade Cuba was set, even though it makes him seem like a pushover weakling. He lampshaded is well aware that he was committing political suicide by continuing to talk of diplomacy when no one else was, lampshading it himself when he brought first brings up the idea to of a trade (give away Guantanamo Bay and the US missiles in Turkey in exchange, saying Turkey) by remarking that someone should be the coward and it may as well be him.
27th Jan '17 3:11:57 PM TimG5
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* NoHarmRequirement: During the CubanMissileCrisis as the NavalBlockade around Cuba goes into effect, the destroyer USS ''Pierce'' is suddenly confronted by a Soviet submarine sent to escort the freighters past the blockade. The ''Pierce'' can't intercept the freighters without exposing itself to the sub. President Kennedy contacts the destroyer's skipper personally and asks if he can force the sun to the surface without damaging it, since they're trying to keep a war from starting. He responds they can get it to the surface, but whether it's damaged is up to the sub. Kennedy then orders him to force it up. But then the Soviets ships start stopping, and Kennedy cancels the order.
8th Jan '17 12:17:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* SinsOfOurFathers: The fact that Jack and Bobby's father is Joseph P. Kennedy, who was ambassador to Britain on the eve of WorldWar2 and was a major advocate of the policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany, is used several times in the movie by those who wanted a tougher stance made on the Soviets and thought that Kennedy was being too soft.

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* SinsOfOurFathers: The fact that Jack and Bobby's father is Joseph P. Kennedy, who was ambassador to Britain on the eve of WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 and was a major advocate of the policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany, is used several times in the movie by those who wanted a tougher stance made on the Soviets and thought that Kennedy was being too soft.
19th Nov '16 4:14:45 PM mikey300
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** Also invoked as to why, following President Kennedy's huge verbal spat with Generals Powell and [=LeMay=] over DEFCON status, the administration can't just fire them as Bobby suggests - it risks looking like there had been an attempted coup (it's not made clear who would be couping whom, but it would look ''really'' bad either way) and in any case would seriously weaken the US's bargaining position by making its military strength look compromised.

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** Also invoked as to why, following President Kennedy's huge verbal spat with Generals Powell [=Power=] and [=LeMay=] over DEFCON status, the administration can't just fire them as Bobby suggests - it risks looking like there had been an attempted coup (it's not made clear who would be couping whom, but it would look ''really'' bad either way) and in any case would seriously weaken the US's bargaining position by making its military strength look compromised.
1st Sep '16 12:34:04 AM JackG
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* FireForgedFriends: When a senior KGB official makes a back channel piece offer allegedly from Khrushchev, the Americans have to decide if it's genuine. They decide it is on finding evidence that the two served together during WW2.



** The Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Anderson, while at the Pentagon monitoring the caro ships is at first downright condescending to his civilian boss, Secretary of Defense Robert [=McNamara=]. However, as AuthorityEqualsAsskicking this gets reversed.

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** The Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Anderson, while at the Pentagon monitoring the caro cargo ships is at first downright condescending to his civilian boss, Secretary of Defense Robert [=McNamara=]. However, as AuthorityEqualsAsskicking this gets reversed.
27th Jul '16 5:51:06 AM morenohijazo
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* MonochromeToColor: The film has a number of scenes which are black-and-white, as much of the news coverage of the day was, and one sequence has Jack and Bobby Kennedy and Kenny O'Donnell discussing their dire situation in monochrome, then as they march to the Situation Room to begin dealing with it the color fades in.
23rd Jul '16 10:42:03 PM LeithSol
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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice that he is expected to believe the absurd idea that the Soviets would simply on their hands after their enemy commits a blatant act of war:

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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice that he is expected to believe the absurd idea that the Soviets would simply sit on their hands after their enemy commits a blatant act of war:
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