History Film / ThirteenDays

17th Apr '16 5:21:54 PM Parable
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->''"If one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that... they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''

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->''"If ->''"Say one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that... they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''
24th Mar '16 3:15:39 PM RyuHimora
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** The intent was that all historical fact, such as the U-2 being shot down, was presented in black and white, while the events the writers made up for the movie are shown in color.
4th Jan '16 4:20:35 PM LaurelHS
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* TrickedIntoSigning: One of O'Donnell's sons asks him to sign a school permission slip at breakfast while he's reading the newspaper and talking to the other kids. It doesn't work; despite being distracted and in a rush, O'Donnell actually looks at the paper and sees that it's his son's report card and that it contains some bad grades.
6th Dec '15 6:35:09 PM kchishol
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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice.

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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice.voice that he is expected to believe the absurd idea that the Soviets would simply on their hands after their enemy commits a blatant act of war:
15th Nov '15 2:41:46 AM Morgenthaler
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** [[spoiler:It plays a critical role in the final agreement to step away from the brink - for political reasons the US cannot explicitly link the withdrawl of their Jupiter missiles in Turkey to the removal of Soviet missles from Cuba. However, by withdrawing the missles six months later and noting that the Jupiter missles are already obsolete and have been scheduled for withdrawl before all this went down, Kennedy can still offer the missles as an exchange for Khruschev to placate his own hardliners.]]

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** [[spoiler:It plays a critical role in the final agreement to step away from the brink - for political reasons the US cannot explicitly link the withdrawl of their Jupiter missiles in Turkey to the removal of Soviet missles missiles from Cuba. However, by withdrawing the missles six months later and noting that the Jupiter missles are already obsolete and have been scheduled for withdrawl before all this went down, Kennedy can still offer the missles as an exchange for Khruschev to placate his own hardliners.]]
21st Oct '15 2:40:17 PM DeisTheAlcano
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->''"If one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that...they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba.... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''

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->''"If one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that... they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba....Cuba... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''



''Thirteen Days'' is a 2000 film about the [[HistoryOfTheColdWar Cuban Missile Crisis]], shown primarily from the point of view of President UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy (Creator/BruceGreenwood) and his senior advisers, including Kenny O'Donnell (Creator/KevinCostner) and Robert F. Kennedy (Steven Culp).

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''Thirteen Days'' is a 2000 film about the [[HistoryOfTheColdWar [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cuban Missile Crisis]], shown primarily from the point of view of President UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy (Creator/BruceGreenwood) and his senior advisers, including Kenny O'Donnell (Creator/KevinCostner) and Robert F. Kennedy (Steven Culp).



* HistoryRepeats: What Kennedy wants to defy. He brings up the example of the lead-up to WorldWarOne, and then plays out a similar scenario in the page quote at the top.

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* HistoryRepeats: What Kennedy wants to defy. He brings up the example of the lead-up to WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and then plays out a similar scenario in the page quote at the top.



-->'''Kennedy''': (quoting Sun-Tzu) Wars are moral contests, and they're won in the temples before they're ever fought.

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-->'''Kennedy''': -->'''Kennedy:''' (quoting Sun-Tzu) Wars are moral contests, and they're won in the temples before they're ever fought.



-->'''Kenny''': Tomorrow the president's going to have a cold.\\
'''Pierre''': A cold? Is there anything else?\\
'''Kenny''': Uh, yeah, how bad it is is up to you.

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-->'''Kenny''': -->'''Kenny:''' Tomorrow the president's going to have a cold.\\
'''Pierre''': '''Pierre:''' A cold? Is there anything else?\\
'''Kenny''': '''Kenny:''' Uh, yeah, how bad it is is up to you.



--> '''Kennedy:''' It's a goddamn trial balloon, Kenny!
--> '''O'Donnell:''' Well, somebody better publicly deny it! Because there's only one way the world's gonna read this: we'd sell out one of our friends for our own safety!

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--> '''Kennedy:''' -->'''Kennedy:''' It's a goddamn trial balloon, Kenny!
--> '''O'Donnell:''' -->'''O'Donnell:''' Well, somebody better publicly deny it! Because there's only one way the world's gonna read this: we'd sell out one of our friends for our own safety!
10th Aug '15 4:51:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* WhiteAndGreyMorality: Kenny, Bobby and JFK are the most traditional heroes, being quite inspiring if pragmatic figures. The Soviets don't want a war to start either, but like the Americans find themselves drawn into a series of escalations that is bigger than they are. The greys are the [[WarHawk military hardliners]], but even they are {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who believe they're doing the right thing.

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* WhiteAndGreyMorality: Kenny, Bobby and JFK are the most traditional heroes, being quite inspiring if pragmatic figures. The Soviets don't want a war to start either, but like the Americans find themselves drawn forced into a series of escalations that is bigger than an escalating crisis which they are. can't stop by themselves. The greys are the [[WarHawk military hardliners]], but even they are {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who believe they're doing the right thing.thing.
-->'''Ambassador Dobrynin:''' [To RFK] You are a good man. Your brother is a good man. I assure you, [[NotSoDifferent there are other good men]]. Let us hope the will of good men is enough to stop the terrible strength of this thing that was put in motion.
20th Jul '15 7:41:48 PM SoapyTroper
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* WeAreNotGoingThroughThatAgain: A historical version with John F. Kennedy citing ''The Guns of August'''s account of how the [[DisasterDominos blunders of that time]] led to WorldWarOne and noting that there is no way he was going to repeat that story and set off WorldWarThree. On the opposing side the Joint Chiefs make repeated references to the [[HeadInTheSandManagement Munich agreement]] that signed away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis in 1938, the infamous source of the [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Peace in Our Time misquote.]]

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* WeAreNotGoingThroughThatAgain: A historical version with John F. Kennedy citing ''The Guns of August'''s account of how the [[DisasterDominos [[DisasterDominoes blunders of that time]] led to WorldWarOne and noting that there is no way he was going to repeat that story and set off WorldWarThree. On the opposing side the Joint Chiefs make repeated references to the [[HeadInTheSandManagement Munich agreement]] that signed away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis in 1938, the infamous source of the [[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain Peace in Our Time misquote.]]
14th Jun '15 5:25:20 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''President JohnFKennedy'''

''Thirteen Days'' is a 2000 film about the [[HistoryOfTheColdWar Cuban Missile Crisis]], shown primarily from the point of view of President JohnFKennedy (Creator/BruceGreenwood) and his senior advisers, including Kenny O'Donnell (Creator/KevinCostner) and Robert F. Kennedy (Steven Culp).

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-->-- '''President JohnFKennedy'''

UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy'''

''Thirteen Days'' is a 2000 film about the [[HistoryOfTheColdWar Cuban Missile Crisis]], shown primarily from the point of view of President JohnFKennedy UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy (Creator/BruceGreenwood) and his senior advisers, including Kenny O'Donnell (Creator/KevinCostner) and Robert F. Kennedy (Steven Culp).
30th Apr '15 8:38:47 PM MAI742
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** Subverted in a diplomatic meeting between the Soviet ambassador and President Kennedy, where the Soviets seem to lie right through their teeth when Kennedy asks them point blank if they are placing offensive weapons in Cuba. In fact, the Soviets seem to regard the missiles they're introducing in Cuba as ''[[ExactWords defensive]]'' in nature, but it gives them an advantage that the U.S. simply cannot tolerate to ensure its own security.

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** Subverted in a diplomatic meeting between the Soviet ambassador and President Kennedy, where the Soviets seem to lie right through their teeth when Kennedy asks them point blank if they are placing offensive weapons in Cuba. In fact, fact the Soviets seem to regard the missiles they're introducing in Cuba as ''[[ExactWords defensive]]'' in nature, given their fears of a NATO first-strike and avowed second-use-only policy, but it gives them an introducing the missiles so drastically reduces the USA's advantage that the U.S. Americans simply cannot tolerate to ensure its own security.it.
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