History Film / ThirteenDays

19th Nov '16 4:14:45 PM mikey300
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** Also invoked as to why, following President Kennedy's huge verbal spat with Generals Powell and [=LeMay=] over DEFCON status, the administration can't just fire them as Bobby suggests - it risks looking like there had been an attempted coup (it's not made clear who would be couping whom, but it would look ''really'' bad either way) and in any case would seriously weaken the US's bargaining position by making its military strength look compromised.

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** Also invoked as to why, following President Kennedy's huge verbal spat with Generals Powell [=Power=] and [=LeMay=] over DEFCON status, the administration can't just fire them as Bobby suggests - it risks looking like there had been an attempted coup (it's not made clear who would be couping whom, but it would look ''really'' bad either way) and in any case would seriously weaken the US's bargaining position by making its military strength look compromised.
1st Sep '16 12:34:04 AM JackG
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* FireForgedFriends: When a senior KGB official makes a back channel piece offer allegedly from Khrushchev, the Americans have to decide if it's genuine. They decide it is on finding evidence that the two served together during WW2.



** The Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Anderson, while at the Pentagon monitoring the caro ships is at first downright condescending to his civilian boss, Secretary of Defense Robert [=McNamara=]. However, as AuthorityEqualsAsskicking this gets reversed.

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** The Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Anderson, while at the Pentagon monitoring the caro cargo ships is at first downright condescending to his civilian boss, Secretary of Defense Robert [=McNamara=]. However, as AuthorityEqualsAsskicking this gets reversed.
27th Jul '16 5:51:06 AM morenohijazo
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* MonochromeToColor: The film has a number of scenes which are black-and-white, as much of the news coverage of the day was, and one sequence has Jack and Bobby Kennedy and Kenny O'Donnell discussing their dire situation in monochrome, then as they march to the Situation Room to begin dealing with it the color fades in.
23rd Jul '16 10:42:03 PM LeithSol
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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice that he is expected to believe the absurd idea that the Soviets would simply on their hands after their enemy commits a blatant act of war:

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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice that he is expected to believe the absurd idea that the Soviets would simply sit on their hands after their enemy commits a blatant act of war:
17th Apr '16 5:21:54 PM Parable
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->''"If one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that... they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''

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->''"If ->''"Say one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that... they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''
24th Mar '16 3:15:39 PM RyuHimora
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** The intent was that all historical fact, such as the U-2 being shot down, was presented in black and white, while the events the writers made up for the movie are shown in color.
4th Jan '16 4:20:35 PM LaurelHS
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* TrickedIntoSigning: One of O'Donnell's sons asks him to sign a school permission slip at breakfast while he's reading the newspaper and talking to the other kids. It doesn't work; despite being distracted and in a rush, O'Donnell actually looks at the paper and sees that it's his son's report card and that it contains some bad grades.
6th Dec '15 6:35:09 PM kchishol
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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice.

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** Kennedy felt this way about the airstrike action in dealing with the missile sites. His reaction to being told by his military advisors that after such airstrikes the Soviet response would be to do nothing was to repeat "''Nothing?!''" in an incredulous tone of voice.voice that he is expected to believe the absurd idea that the Soviets would simply on their hands after their enemy commits a blatant act of war:
15th Nov '15 2:41:46 AM Morgenthaler
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** [[spoiler:It plays a critical role in the final agreement to step away from the brink - for political reasons the US cannot explicitly link the withdrawl of their Jupiter missiles in Turkey to the removal of Soviet missles from Cuba. However, by withdrawing the missles six months later and noting that the Jupiter missles are already obsolete and have been scheduled for withdrawl before all this went down, Kennedy can still offer the missles as an exchange for Khruschev to placate his own hardliners.]]

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** [[spoiler:It plays a critical role in the final agreement to step away from the brink - for political reasons the US cannot explicitly link the withdrawl of their Jupiter missiles in Turkey to the removal of Soviet missles missiles from Cuba. However, by withdrawing the missles six months later and noting that the Jupiter missles are already obsolete and have been scheduled for withdrawl before all this went down, Kennedy can still offer the missles as an exchange for Khruschev to placate his own hardliners.]]
21st Oct '15 2:40:17 PM DeisTheAlcano
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->''"If one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that...they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba.... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''

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->''"If one of their ships resists the inspection, and we shoot out its rudder and board it. They shoot down one of our planes, in response. So we bomb their anti-aircraft sites - in response to that... they attack Berlin. So we invade Cuba....Cuba... and they fire their missiles... and we fire ours..."''



''Thirteen Days'' is a 2000 film about the [[HistoryOfTheColdWar Cuban Missile Crisis]], shown primarily from the point of view of President UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy (Creator/BruceGreenwood) and his senior advisers, including Kenny O'Donnell (Creator/KevinCostner) and Robert F. Kennedy (Steven Culp).

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''Thirteen Days'' is a 2000 film about the [[HistoryOfTheColdWar [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cuban Missile Crisis]], shown primarily from the point of view of President UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy (Creator/BruceGreenwood) and his senior advisers, including Kenny O'Donnell (Creator/KevinCostner) and Robert F. Kennedy (Steven Culp).



* HistoryRepeats: What Kennedy wants to defy. He brings up the example of the lead-up to WorldWarOne, and then plays out a similar scenario in the page quote at the top.

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* HistoryRepeats: What Kennedy wants to defy. He brings up the example of the lead-up to WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and then plays out a similar scenario in the page quote at the top.



-->'''Kennedy''': (quoting Sun-Tzu) Wars are moral contests, and they're won in the temples before they're ever fought.

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-->'''Kennedy''': -->'''Kennedy:''' (quoting Sun-Tzu) Wars are moral contests, and they're won in the temples before they're ever fought.



-->'''Kenny''': Tomorrow the president's going to have a cold.\\
'''Pierre''': A cold? Is there anything else?\\
'''Kenny''': Uh, yeah, how bad it is is up to you.

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-->'''Kenny''': -->'''Kenny:''' Tomorrow the president's going to have a cold.\\
'''Pierre''': '''Pierre:''' A cold? Is there anything else?\\
'''Kenny''': '''Kenny:''' Uh, yeah, how bad it is is up to you.



--> '''Kennedy:''' It's a goddamn trial balloon, Kenny!
--> '''O'Donnell:''' Well, somebody better publicly deny it! Because there's only one way the world's gonna read this: we'd sell out one of our friends for our own safety!

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--> '''Kennedy:''' -->'''Kennedy:''' It's a goddamn trial balloon, Kenny!
--> '''O'Donnell:''' -->'''O'Donnell:''' Well, somebody better publicly deny it! Because there's only one way the world's gonna read this: we'd sell out one of our friends for our own safety!
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