History Film / TheWeddingSinger

21st Jun '16 1:17:36 PM gewunomox
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* TheCameo: BillyIdol helps Robbie [[spoiler:tell Julia his true feelings on the plane. Then he offers him a record deal]].

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* TheCameo: BillyIdol Music/BillyIdol helps Robbie [[spoiler:tell Julia his true feelings on the plane. Then he offers him a record deal]].
30th May '16 5:49:15 PM Josef5678
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* RealityEnsues: Linda breaks up with Robbie because he's in a deadend job, he doesn't have his own place, and she's not in love with Robbie anymore. It's more of a StrawmanHasAPoint scene, but anyone would not get married realizing how difficult their life would be due to those circumstances.

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* RealityEnsues: RealityEnsues:
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Linda breaks up with Robbie because he's in a deadend job, he doesn't have his own place, and she's not in love with Robbie anymore. It's more of a StrawmanHasAPoint scene, but anyone would not get married realizing how difficult their life would be due to those circumstances.



* TakeThat: Robbie saying: "Get out of my Music/VanHalen T-shirt before you jinx the band and they break up."
** Actually, it was a CallForward, not a TakeThat.
** A CallBack of sorts to the scene in ''Film/{{Airheads}}'' when the Lone Rangers try to determine if someone is a policeman by asking who he sided with in the Music/VanHalen vs. Music/DavidLeeRoth split. The guy says "Van Halen," and they say, "He's a cop." [[note]]Message: A true fan would have said Roth.[[/note]]

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* TakeThat: Robbie saying: "Get out of my Music/VanHalen T-shirt before you jinx the band and they break up."
** Actually, it was
" It's also a CallForward, not a TakeThat.
** A
CallBack of sorts to the scene in ''Film/{{Airheads}}'' when the Lone Rangers try to determine if someone is a policeman by asking who he sided with in the Music/VanHalen vs. Music/DavidLeeRoth split. The guy says "Van Halen," and they say, "He's a cop." [[note]]Message: A true fan would have said Roth.[[/note]]
30th May '16 3:18:52 PM MrReviser121
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* CreepyMonotone: Robbie sounds like this when he's drunk or depressed.



* DisposableFiance: The "evil all along" variation. Robbie was this to his fiancée Linda, but since he's the central character, her decision to leave him is portrayed as shallow and mean. Even so, Linda is less cartoonishly evil than Glenn, who is depicted as a being violent, lecherous liar.

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* DisposableFiance: The "evil all along" variation. Robbie was this to his fiancée Linda, fiance, Linda. but since he's the central character, her decision to leave him is portrayed as shallow and mean. Even so, Linda is less cartoonishly evil than Glenn, who is depicted as a being violent, lecherous liar.


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* RealityEnsues: Linda breaks up with Robbie because he's in a deadend job, he doesn't have his own place, and she's not in love with Robbie anymore. It's more of a StrawmanHasAPoint scene, but anyone would not get married realizing how difficult their life would be due to those circumstances.
** Linda [[spoiler: attempts to reunite with Robbie, but it fails.]] Why? Well, she cruelly gave him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech instead of just saying the marriage won't work, she took Robbie's shirt and went into his home while he was drunk, making Robbie think she's a pyscho, and she's still an insensitive bitch, who's not really sorry for how she treated him.


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** Actually, it was a CallForward, not a TakeThat.
27th May '16 3:09:19 AM MacronNotes
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* DumbBlonde: Holly, from both the movie and musical versions, is both slutty and slightly dim. However in the original movie, Julia herself was intelligent with blond hair in contrast to Robbie's stupid brunette ex, Linda. The musical reverses Julia's and Linda's hair colors, with Julia a BrainyBrunette / GirlNextDoor type and Linda an even bigger Dumb Blonde than Holly and dabbling into BlondesAreEvil.

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* DumbBlonde: Holly, from both the movie and musical versions, is both slutty and slightly dim. However in the original movie, Julia herself was intelligent with blond hair in contrast to Robbie's stupid brunette ex, Linda. The musical reverses Julia's and Linda's hair colors, with Julia a BrainyBrunette / GirlNextDoor type and Linda an even bigger Dumb Blonde than Holly and dabbling into BlondesAreEvil.Holly.
25th May '16 3:09:46 PM LadyNorbert
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* CaliforniaDoubling: The story is set in Ridgefield, Connecticut - indeed Glen works on Wall Street "In the city", presumably in Manhattan - but was filmed in California.

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* CaliforniaDoubling: The story is set in Ridgefield, Connecticut - indeed Glen works on Wall Street "In "in the city", city," presumably in Manhattan - but was filmed in California.



* CreatorBreakdown: Parodied (and expertly summarized) in-universe. Robbie's breakdown occurred ''while he was writing'' a love song for the woman who would later leave him at the altar; the lyrics and style of that song start with fluffy romance, [[MoodWhiplash switch suddenly]] to extreme rage, dissolve into shocked sadness, and finally end with despairing "kill me now" {{Wangst}}.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Parodied (and expertly summarized) in-universe. Robbie's breakdown occurred ''while he was writing'' a love song for the woman who would later leave him at the altar; the lyrics and style of that song start with fluffy romance, [[MoodWhiplash switch suddenly]] to extreme rage, dissolve into shocked sadness, and finally end with despairing "kill {{wangst}}y lyrics outright begging, "Somebody kill me now" {{Wangst}}.please!"



* FakePregnancy: Julia's mother suggests she try this to get Glenn to set the wedding date. Julia is somewhat horrified.



** Combined with AnalogyBackfire in hindsight: Sammy talks about being miserable because he never settled down, saying that he modeled his look after Vinnie Barbarino (played by John Travolta) and how "[Travolta's] show got cancelled!" because "No one wants to see a fifty-year-old guy hitting on chicks". Travolta, of course, ended up having a big comeback with ''Film/PulpFiction'' and became a sex symbol again.
** In the musical during Glen's number, he comments that "nobody would pay for a cup of coffee" and "Betamax... It's genius! Buy as much stock as you can!". Other versions of the song replace Beta with New Coke.

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** Combined with AnalogyBackfire in hindsight: Sammy talks about being miserable because he never settled down, saying that he modeled his look antics after Vinnie Barbarino (played by John Travolta) and how "[Travolta's] show got cancelled!" because "No one wants to see a fifty-year-old guy hitting on chicks". Travolta, of course, ended up having a big comeback with ''Film/PulpFiction'' and became a sex symbol again.
** In the musical during Glen's Glenn's number, he comments that "nobody would pay for a cup of coffee" and "Betamax... It's genius! Buy as much stock as you can!". Other versions of the song replace Beta with New Coke.



** Jimmie (Jon Lovitz) as the creepy, lecherous and ridiculous wedding singer Julia refuses to hire.

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** Jimmie (Jon Lovitz) as the creepy, lecherous lecherous, and utterly ridiculous wedding singer Julia refuses to hire.



* KavorkaMan: Robbie is no great looker with a loser job and a HairTriggerTemper, but he manages to reel in one gorgeous woman after another.
* LoveEpiphany: This happens to both Robbie and Julia. Debatable as to where it does happen. However Julia's is more clear; it happens when her friend asks why she wants to marry Glen anyway, to which she collapses on the table - realizing she actually loves Robbie.

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* KavorkaMan: Robbie is no great looker looker, with a loser job and a HairTriggerTemper, but he manages to reel in one gorgeous woman after another.
* LoveEpiphany: This happens to both Robbie and Julia. Debatable With Robbie, it's not entirely clear as to where when it does happen. However happens. However, Julia's is more clear; it happens when her friend cousin Holly asks why she wants to marry Glen Glenn anyway, to at which she collapses on the table - realizing she actually loves Robbie.



* MoodWhiplash: For comedic purposes. An emotive song about everlasting love is followed by... ''The Rapping Grandma!''.

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* MoodWhiplash: For comedic purposes. An emotive song about everlasting love is followed by... ''The Rapping Grandma!''.Grandma!''



* NiceGuy: Robbie is definitely this without question. Between singing at weddings for cheap to see the smiles on everyone's faces, to giving an elderly lady voice lessons while accepting meatballs as payment, and selflessly agreeing to help Julia plan her wedding before he falls for her.
* PeriodPiece: A rather unusual one. There's really no reason why this story had to be set in 1985, thirteen years before the film's release, but it sure gives a ton of great joke opportunities.
* PissTakeRap: {{Averted|Trope}} for The Rappin' Granny, who, at her 50th wedding anniversary, belts out "Rappers Delight" ''flawlessly''.
* PoorCommunicationKills: Linda had been thinking, and talking to her friends about not going through with the wedding for several days but still did not do anything about it until not showing up. {{Lampshaded}} by Robbie:
--> '''Linda:''' Oh, yeah - sure! Living in your sister's basement with five kids while you're off every weekends doing wedding gigs at a whoppin' sixty bucks a pop?

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* NiceGuy: Robbie is definitely this without question. Between singing He sings at weddings for cheap low pay just to see the smiles on everyone's faces, to giving he gives an elderly lady voice lessons while accepting meatballs as payment, and he selflessly agreeing agrees to help Julia plan her wedding before he falls for her.
* PeriodPiece: A rather unusual one. There's really no reason why this story had to be set in 1985, thirteen years before the film's release, but except that it sure gives a ton of great joke opportunities.
* PissTakeRap: {{Averted|Trope}} for The Rappin' Granny, who, at her 50th wedding anniversary, belts out "Rappers "Rapper's Delight" ''flawlessly''.
* PoorCommunicationKills: Linda had been thinking, and talking to her friends about not going through with the wedding for several days days, but still did not do anything about it until not showing up. {{Lampshaded}} by Robbie:
--> '''Linda:''' Oh, yeah - sure! Living in your sister's basement with five kids while you're off every weekends weekend doing wedding gigs at a whoppin' sixty bucks a pop?



* ReallyGetsAround: Holly, by her own admission after Glenn makes an off-handed remark, gets stared at when claiming that it's untrue, and then simply admits that it is true. "If you come upstairs, you're gonna get laid." leaves little to the imagination.

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* ReallyGetsAround: Holly, by her own admission after Glenn makes an off-handed remark, gets stared at when claiming that it's untrue, and then simply admits that it is true. "If you come upstairs, you're gonna get laid." laid" leaves little to the imagination.



** In one scene, Glenn is dressed similarly to Don Johnson from ''Series/MiamiVice.'' When he pulls up in his Delorean, the theme for Miami Vice can be heard as well.

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** In one scene, Glenn is dressed similarly to Don Johnson from ''Series/MiamiVice.'' When he pulls up in his Delorean, the theme for Miami Vice ''Miami Vice'' can be heard as well.well. There's also a ShoutOut in the fact that he ''drives'' a [[Film/BackToTheFuture Delorean]].
13th Mar '16 9:22:48 AM Josef5678
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* KavorkaMan: Robbie is no great looker with a loser job and a HairTriggerTemper, but he manages to reel in one gorgeous woman after another.
13th Mar '16 9:03:28 AM Josef5678
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* TheEighties: Set entirely in 1985 and is jam-packed with 1980s pop culture references. That said, some of these references may come across as slightly anachronistic, e.g. a reference to ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' and the infamous "Who shot J.R.?" plotline, which in 1985 was already four-five years old, and the '88 mix of "Blue Monday" by Music/NewOrder being played at the disco. Then again, the film is a period piece.
* EightiesHair: Seen everywhere, and lampshaded with the Flock of Seagulls fan who works as a ticket clerk at the airport.



* AnachronismStew: Apparently, everything 80s happened in 1985. For instance, [[Series/{{Dallas}} JR was shot five years before the film's setting]], but it's treated as it just happened here. It's a [[FilmsUsingRuleOfFunny film using the rule of funny]] to pop off as many references as it can, so it's OK.

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* AnachronismStew: Apparently, everything 80s happened in 1985. For instance, [[Series/{{Dallas}} JR was shot five years before the film's setting]], but it's treated as it just happened here. It's a [[FilmsUsingRuleOfFunny [[AnachronismStew/FilmsUsingRuleOfFunny film using the rule of funny]] to pop off as many references as it can, so it's OK.



* AntiLoveSong / BreakUpSong: "Love Stinks", which is, believe it or not, a real song, recorded by Music/TheJGeilsBand in 1980, and is included on the film's soundtrack.

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* AntiLoveSong / BreakUpSong: AntiLoveSong: "Love Stinks", which is, believe it or not, a real song, recorded by Music/TheJGeilsBand in 1980, and is included on the film's soundtrack.



* DisposableFiance: The "evil all along" variation.
** Robbie was this to his fiancée Linda, but since he's the central character, her decision to leave him is portrayed as shallow and mean. Even so, Linda is less cartoonishly evil than Glenn, who is depicted as a being violent, lecherous liar.

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* DisposableFiance: The "evil all along" variation.
**
variation. Robbie was this to his fiancée Linda, but since he's the central character, her decision to leave him is portrayed as shallow and mean. Even so, Linda is less cartoonishly evil than Glenn, who is depicted as a being violent, lecherous liar.



* TheEighties: Set entirely in 1985 and is jam-packed with 1980s pop culture references.
** That said, some of these references may come across as slightly anachronistic, e.g. a reference to ''Dallas'' and the infamous "Who shot J.R.?" plotline, which in 1985 was already four-five years old, and the '88 mix of "Blue Monday" by Music/NewOrder being played at the disco. Then again, the film is a period piece.
* EightiesHair: Seen everywhere, and lampshaded with the Flock of Seagulls fan who works as a ticket clerk at the airport.



* ItWillNeverCatchOn: Combined with AnalogyBackfire in hindsight: Sammy talks about being miserable because he never settled down, saying that he modeled his look after Vinnie Barbarino (played by John Travolta) and how "[Travolta's] show got cancelled!" because "No one wants to see a fifty-year-old guy hitting on chicks". Travolta, of course, ended up having a big comeback with ''Film/PulpFiction'' and became a sex symbol again.
** Also used in the musical during Glen's number, where he comments that "nobody would pay for a cup of coffee" and "Betamax... It's genius! Buy as much stock as you can!"
** Other versions of the song replace Beta with New Coke.

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* ItWillNeverCatchOn: ItWillNeverCatchOn:
**
Combined with AnalogyBackfire in hindsight: Sammy talks about being miserable because he never settled down, saying that he modeled his look after Vinnie Barbarino (played by John Travolta) and how "[Travolta's] show got cancelled!" because "No one wants to see a fifty-year-old guy hitting on chicks". Travolta, of course, ended up having a big comeback with ''Film/PulpFiction'' and became a sex symbol again.
** Also used in In the musical during Glen's number, where he comments that "nobody would pay for a cup of coffee" and "Betamax... It's genius! Buy as much stock as you can!"
**
can!". Other versions of the song replace Beta with New Coke.



* JerkAss: Glenn Gulia nicely fills the "dick boyfriend" role that many romantic comedies have.

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* JerkAss: JerkAss:
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Glenn Gulia nicely fills the "dick boyfriend" role that many romantic comedies have.



** Also Linda, the woman who left Robbie at the altar.

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** Also Linda, the woman who left Robbie at the altar.



* LoveEpiphany: This happens to both Robbie and Julia. Debatable as to where it does happen. However Julia's is more clear, I would argue it happens when her friend asks why she wants to marry Glen anyway; to which she collapses on the table - realising she actually loves Robbie
* AManIsAlwaysEager: Subverted. After their date, Holly flat-out tells Robbie that she's willing and eager to have sex with him. He turns her down because he's in love with Julia.

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* LoveEpiphany: This happens to both Robbie and Julia. Debatable as to where it does happen. However Julia's is more clear, I would argue clear; it happens when her friend asks why she wants to marry Glen anyway; anyway, to which she collapses on the table - realising realizing she actually loves Robbie
Robbie.
* AManIsAlwaysEager: Subverted.{{Inverted|Trope}}. After their date, Holly flat-out tells Robbie that she's willing and eager to have sex with him. He turns her down because he's in love with Julia.



* MusicalWorldHypotheses: Diegetic type.

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* MusicalWorldHypotheses: Diegetic type. The titular wedding singer performs the musical numbers for the characters InUniverse.



* PissTakeRap: The Rappin' Granny, who, at her 50th wedding anniversary, belts out "Rappers Delight" ''flawlessly''.

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* PissTakeRap: {{Averted|Trope}} for The Rappin' Granny, who, at her 50th wedding anniversary, belts out "Rappers Delight" ''flawlessly''.
23rd Feb '16 8:32:17 PM Bdem
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* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Robbie can't bring himself to tell Julia how he feels when he sees how happy she looks in her window (despite it not being for the reason he thinks).
3rd Jan '16 6:44:31 AM tvinsomne
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* MoodWhiplash: For comedic purposes. An emotive song about everlasting love is followed by... ''The Rapping Grandma!''.
23rd Dec '15 11:31:42 PM spirasen
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** The clerk at the airport has a Flock of Seagulls-style haircut (which is immediately pointed out).
** George is an impersonator of Boy George from Culture Club.

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** The clerk at the airport has a Flock of Seagulls-style Music/AFlockOfSeagulls-style haircut (which is immediately pointed out).
** George is an impersonator of Boy George from Culture Club.Music/CultureClub.



* SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay: [[spoiler:Robbie figures out that Glenn and Julia are on the same plane because one of the stewardesses said that a coach passenger told her she was "grade-A, top-choice meat." Glenn had said the same thing about a waitress halfway through the movie.]]
* TakeThat: Robbie saying, "Get out of my Music/VanHalen T-shirt before you jinx the band and they break up."
** A CallBack of sorts to the scene in ''Film/{{Airheads}}'' when the Lone Rangers try to determine if someone is a policeman by asking who he sided with in the Van [=Halen=] vs. Music/DavidLeeRoth split. The guy says "Van Halen," and they say, "He's a cop."[[note]]Message: a true fan would have said Roth.[[/note]]
* TwentyMinutesIntoThePast: Released in 1998, takes place in 1985.
* WeddingDeadline: Played straight in the musical, but averted in the film; the break-up happens on the plane to Las Vegas.

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* SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay: [[spoiler:Robbie [[spoiler: Robbie figures out that Glenn and Julia are on the same plane because one of the stewardesses said that a coach passenger told her she was "grade-A, top-choice meat." Glenn had said the same thing about a waitress halfway through the movie.]]
* TakeThat: Robbie saying, saying: "Get out of my Music/VanHalen T-shirt before you jinx the band and they break up."
** A CallBack of sorts to the scene in ''Film/{{Airheads}}'' when the Lone Rangers try to determine if someone is a policeman by asking who he sided with in the Van [=Halen=] Music/VanHalen vs. Music/DavidLeeRoth split. The guy says "Van Halen," and they say, "He's a cop."[[note]]Message: a " [[note]]Message: A true fan would have said Roth.[[/note]]
[[/note]]
* TwentyMinutesIntoThePast: Released in 1998, takes place in 1985.
1985.
* WeddingDeadline: Played straight in the musical, but averted in the film; the break-up happens on the plane to Las Vegas.
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