History Film / ThePatriot

10th Feb '16 2:59:35 PM Mario1995
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* InsultBackfire
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* InsultBackfireInsultBackfire: ** See the first IronicEcho example below. ** Near the end of the [[spoiler:Battle of Cowpens]], a presumably-incapacitated Benjamin Martin watches the battle as we writhes in pain, having been slashed by Tavington. Tavington, who is right behind him, insults Martin by declaring: "[[MeaningfulEcho Kill me before the war is over]], will you? It appears that you are not the better man. " [[spoiler:Just as Tavington is about to behead Martin, Martin dodges the killing blow and and grabs a bayonet to stab Tavington in the stomach. As Tavington falls, Martin holds the bayonet on Tavington's neck responds to his insult by concurring with him, declaring that his sons were better men, right before Martin delivers the killing blow to Tavington]].
12th Jan '16 11:58:39 PM DariusAngel
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-->"They'll probably kill us men, and God knows what they'll do to you women."
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-->"They'll probably kill us men, and God Lord knows what they'll do to you women."
12th Jan '16 11:56:08 PM DariusAngel
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* ObligatoryWarCrimeScene: Tarleton burning the Martin's farm and killing the wounded Americans. The militia killing surrendering redcoats, much to Gabriel's protests. Later the church burning by the British with Patriot townsfolk inside.
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* ObligatoryWarCrimeScene: Tarleton Tavington burning the Martin's farm and killing the wounded Americans. The militia killing surrendering redcoats, much to Gabriel's protests. Later the church burning by the British with Patriot townsfolk inside.
26th Nov '15 7:11:06 PM Fireblood
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** Capt. Wilkins, a Loyalist, answered Tavington's question on why he should trust a man who "betray his neighbors" with "Those neighbors of mine who stand against England deserve to die a traitor's death". Later on, Tavington orders Capt. Wilkins to burn his said neighbors to death inside the church. When Capt. Wilkins says there's no honor in it, Tavington coldly throw his own words at him to make him do it anyway.
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** Capt. Wilkins, a Loyalist, answered Tavington's question on why he should trust a man who "betray his neighbors" with "Those neighbors of mine who stand against England deserve to die a traitor's death". Later on, Tavington orders Capt. Wilkins to burn his said neighbors to death inside the church. When Capt. Wilkins says there's no honor in it, Tavington coldly throw throws his own words back at him to make him do it anyway.

** Capt. Wilkins, * TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar: Martin tries to cite them in defense of his son, who's been arrested for spying, saying he can't be charged as a Loyalist, answered spy since he's in uniform with the dispatches he was carrying clearly marked. Tavington's question on why he should trust a man who "betray not interested, however, having already had wounded Continental soldiers shot, and threatens Martin before burning down his neighbors" with "Those neighbors of mine who stand against England deserve to die a traitor's death". Later on, Tavington orders Capt. Wilkins to burn his said neighbors to death inside the church. When Capt. Wilkins says there's no honor in it, Tavington coldly throw his own words at him to make him do it anyway.home for "harboring" rebels.

* OneBulletLeft: Benjamin Martin deliberately saves a special bullet made from one of his murdered son's lead soldiers especially for the BigBad who killed him, Colonel Tavington. Subverted in that while he does get his final, poetic justice-y shot in on Tavington, a cannonball landing nearby throws off his aim and only wounds the villain, leading to a rather fierce duel between Benjamin and the now ''very'' pissed-off Tavington in the midst of the battle.
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* OneBulletLeft: Benjamin Martin deliberately saves a special bullet made from one of his murdered son's lead soldiers especially for the BigBad who killed him, Colonel Tavington. Subverted {{Subverted}} in that while he does get his final, poetic justice-y shot in on Tavington, a cannonball landing nearby throws off his aim and only wounds the villain, leading to a rather fierce duel between Benjamin and the now ''very'' pissed-off Tavington in the midst of the battle.

* PyrrhicVictory: (With shades of HeroicSacrifice and WasItReallyWorthIt.) By the end, Benjamin Martin has [[spoiler:violently lost his home, his two eldest sons, his daughter-in-law and her family and her entire village, his sister-in-law's home, and at some points his own self-respect. His younger sons have lost their innocence when he enlisted them to rescue Gabriel. Many of his friends and comrades made similar sacrifices; he watches as a longtime friend shoots himself in the head after finding his own family slain]].
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* PyrrhicVictory: (With PyrrhicVictory (with shades of HeroicSacrifice and WasItReallyWorthIt.) WasItReallyWorthIt): By the end, Benjamin Martin has [[spoiler:violently lost his home, his two eldest sons, his daughter-in-law and her family and her entire village, his sister-in-law's home, and at some points his own self-respect. His younger sons have lost their innocence when he enlisted them to rescue Gabriel. Many of his friends and comrades made similar sacrifices; he watches as a longtime friend shoots himself in the head after finding his own family slain]].murdered]].

* PyrrhicVictory: (With shades of HeroicSacrifice TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Surprising considering how cartoonishly evil the British are, but the militia is utterly merciless to surrendering redcoats and WasItReallyWorthIt.) By ignores the end, standard rules of engagement for the time. This becomes a point of contention between the militia members recruited by Gabriel who want to fight honorably to uphold the sanctity of their cause, and the rough backwoodsman recruited by Martin who have no qualms about cruelty and see the other faction as weak-hearted. This is later subverted however, when Benjamin Martin has [[spoiler:violently lost and his home, his two eldest sons, his daughter-in-law and her family and her entire village, his sister-in-law's home, and at some points his own self-respect. His younger sons have lost militia first try out their innocence when he enlisted them to rescue Gabriel. Many of his friends no-killing policy [[spoiler:- and comrades made similar sacrifices; he watches as a longtime friend shoots himself in the head after finding his own family slain]].are promptly counter-ambushed by Colonel Tavington's Dragoons,]] thus suggesting [[UnfortunateImplications their previous ruthlessness was entirely justified]].

* TheStarscream: Tavington has shades of this, such as being angered by Cornwallis scolding him for using brutal tactics, creating the "Ghost", and in the climax he had his troops march on completely ignoring Wilkins when he brought up Cornwallis not given orders yet. Thought he's not trying to takeover from Cornwallis, but feels he's holding him back.
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* TheStarscream: Tavington has shades of this, such as being angered by Cornwallis scolding him for using brutal tactics, creating the "Ghost", and in the climax he had his troops march on on, completely ignoring Wilkins when he brought up Cornwallis not given giving orders yet. Thought he's not trying to takeover from Cornwallis, but feels he's holding him back.

* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Surprising considering how cartoonishly evil the British are, but the militia is utterly merciless to surrendering redcoats and ignores the standard rules of engagement of the time. This becomes a point of contention between the militia members recruited by Gabriel who want to fight honorably to uphold the sanctity of their cause, and the rough backwoodsman recruited by Martin who have no qualms about cruelty and see the other faction as weak-hearted. This is later subverted however, when Benjamin and his militia first try out their no-killing policy [[spoiler:- and are promptly counter-ambushed by Colonel Tavington's Dragoons,]] thus suggesting [[UnfortunateImplications their previous ruthlessness was entirely justified]]. * UngratefulBastard: Despite the Martins treating the British soldiers as well as Continentals, Tavington has their home burn down anyway.
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Surprising considering how cartoonishly evil the British are, but the militia is utterly merciless to surrendering redcoats and ignores the standard rules of engagement of the time. This becomes a point of contention between the militia members recruited by Gabriel who want to fight honorably to uphold the sanctity of their cause, and the rough backwoodsman recruited by Martin who have no qualms about cruelty and see the other faction as weak-hearted. This is later subverted however, when Benjamin and his militia first try out their no-killing policy [[spoiler:- and are promptly counter-ambushed by Colonel Tavington's Dragoons,]] thus suggesting [[UnfortunateImplications their previous ruthlessness was entirely justified]]. * UngratefulBastard: Despite the Martins treating the British soldiers as well as Continentals, Tavington has their home burn burned down anyway.anyway, for "harboring" rebels.
26th Nov '15 6:42:07 AM jeez
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Surprising considering how cartoonishly evil the British are, but the militia is utterly merciless to surrendering redcoats and ignores the standard rules of engagement of the time. This becomes a point of contention between the militia members recruited by Gabriel who want to fight honorably to uphold the sanctity of their cause, and the rough backwoodsman recruited by Martin who have no qualms about cruelty and see the other faction as weak-hearted. * Later subverted when Benjamin and his militia first try to practice their no-killing policy [[spoiler:- and are promptly counter-ambushed by Colonel Tavington's Dragoons,]] thus suggesting the ruthlessness was entirely justified.
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Surprising considering how cartoonishly evil the British are, but the militia is utterly merciless to surrendering redcoats and ignores the standard rules of engagement of the time. This becomes a point of contention between the militia members recruited by Gabriel who want to fight honorably to uphold the sanctity of their cause, and the rough backwoodsman recruited by Martin who have no qualms about cruelty and see the other faction as weak-hearted. \n* Later This is later subverted however, when Benjamin and his militia first try to practice out their no-killing policy [[spoiler:- and are promptly counter-ambushed by Colonel Tavington's Dragoons,]] thus suggesting the [[UnfortunateImplications their previous ruthlessness was entirely justified.justified]].
26th Nov '15 6:39:39 AM jeez
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* Later subverted when Benjamin and his militia first try to practice their no-killing policy [[spoiler:- and are promptly counter-ambushed by Colonel Tavington's Dragoons,]] thus suggesting the ruthlessness was entirely justified.
26th Nov '15 6:32:20 AM jeez
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* CombatPragmatist: Martin learned about hit-and-run guerrilla tactics employed by the Indians and later explained that his unit during that time period would respond in kind. In his first engagement in the movie he instructed his sons to [[StraightForTheCommander target the officers]], shoot the soldiers from back to front (while he went front to back), stay low to the ground and hidden behind logs, trees and small hills. This was all reflective of the time period-the American Revolution was the first war to edge away from typical open field, lines of soldiers confrontations (although until barrel rifling was devised snipers were not nearly as helpful or useful in wars). Colonial troops had already long taken up what would now be called guerrilla warfare that they learned fighting various native tribes.
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* CombatPragmatist: Martin learned about hit-and-run guerrilla tactics employed by the Indians and later explained that his unit during that time period would respond in kind. In his first engagement in the movie he instructed his sons to [[StraightForTheCommander target the officers]], shoot the soldiers from back to front (while he went front to back), stay low to the ground and hidden behind logs, trees and small hills. This was all reflective of the time period-the American Revolution was the first war to edge away from typical open field, lines of soldiers confrontations (although until (at least, the first one since the advent of firearms - even then, before barrel rifling was devised snipers were not nearly as helpful or useful in wars). Colonial troops had already long taken up what would now be called guerrilla warfare that they learned fighting various native tribes.
15th Nov '15 2:09:31 AM Morgenthaler
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->'''Benjamin Martin''': ''"Before this war is over, [[IllKillYou I'm going to kill you]]."''
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->'''Benjamin Martin''': ''"Before this war is over, [[IllKillYou I'm going to kill you]].you."''
29th Oct '15 6:56:24 AM JosephCBadass
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: The roundshot fired by cannon actually was aimed toward the ground, and the cannonball actually does bounce repeatedly off the ground the way it does in the film.
8th Aug '15 3:56:46 PM Morgenthaler
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* ItsPersonalWithTheDragon: General Cornwallis is the highest-ranking British officer opposing the Southern rebels, but American Colonel Benjamin Martin respects Cornwallis' military genius and at one point negotiates his men's release with the General. Martin's real enemy is the vicious Colonel Tavington, the field commander of the Dragoons, who murdered Martin's son and burned down his home. -->'''Martin:''' Before this war is over, I'm going to kill you. -->'''Tavington:''' Why wait?
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