History Film / TheHobbit

15th Jul '17 11:27:54 PM Epicazeroth
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* FiveManBand: The Council of the Wise
** TheLeader – Saruman. The most powerful of the Wizards, and their designated leader. These films show him as a well-intentioned if abrasive AntiHero, before his fall from grace into the straight villain of Film/TheLordOfTheRings.
** TheLancer – Gandalf. The most active member of the Council, and the polar opposite of Saruman. Where Saruman is aloof and believes that great power is the only way to defeat evil, Gandalf directly influences many events in Middle-Earth and believes that even small folk and small deeds can have great impact.
** TheSmartGuy – Radagast. While Gandalf and Saruman use flashier magics, Radagast uses potions and incantations and is far more knowledgeable about the nature of the darkness they face, as he lives right near it. He also is the first one to figure out the true identity of the Necromancer.
** TheBigGuy – Elrond. By far the most physically able of the Council, he possesses less raw magical power than the others. Notably he is the only one to wear armor, as he is the only warrior by trade of the group.
** TheChick – Galadriel. Acts as a stabilizing influence between Gandalf and Saruman, and [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings later]] as a mellowing influence on Elrond. She also does the least actual fighting, even though she is implied to be possibly the most powerful (in Middle-Earth at least).
15th Jul '17 8:45:16 PM nombretomado
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** Smaug as well. Being voiced by [[BenedictCumberbatch this guy]] certainly doesn't hurt.

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** Smaug as well. Being voiced by [[BenedictCumberbatch [[Creator/BenedictCumberbatch this guy]] certainly doesn't hurt.



** Gollum (performed once again by the TropeNamer himself) and Smaug as well by BenedictCumberbatch. Jackson must be really impressed by Serkis, because he also appointed him Second Unit Director.

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** Gollum (performed once again by the TropeNamer himself) and Smaug as well by BenedictCumberbatch.Creator/BenedictCumberbatch. Jackson must be really impressed by Serkis, because he also appointed him Second Unit Director.
9th Jul '17 2:19:40 AM ShadictheHedgehog
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** Radagast the Brown gets an expanded role in the films despite not showing up in the book.

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** Radagast the Brown gets an expanded role in the films despite not showing up in the book.book and only having one scene in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''.
2nd Jul '17 3:13:34 AM DariusAngel
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* RoleReprisal: A good number of 'em from the LOTR trilogy. Sir Ian Holm as Bilbo, Elijah Wood as Frodo, Sir Creator/IanMcKellen as Gandalf, Creator/HugoWeaving as Elrond, Creator/AndySerkis as Gollum, Creator/ChristopherLee as Saruman and Creator/CateBlanchett as Galadriel.

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* RoleReprisal: A good number of 'em from the LOTR trilogy. Sir Ian Holm as Bilbo, Elijah Wood as Frodo, Sir Creator/IanMcKellen as Gandalf, Creator/HugoWeaving as Elrond, Creator/AndySerkis as Gollum, Sir Creator/ChristopherLee as Saruman and Creator/CateBlanchett as Galadriel.
2nd Jul '17 2:13:15 AM DariusAngel
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** The Elves even have this towards ''each other:'' Thranduil tells Tauriel not to get her hopes up as regards to Legolas, since she's just a lowly Silvan Elf. (The film's not exaggerating with this; a lot of Tolkien's Elves are notoriously bigoted and snobbish. However, concerning this particular case of disdain towards Silvan elves, according to Tolkien lore, Thranduil's (Sindarin) royal house is actually one of the few who "went native", adopting Silvan custom and culture -- possibly intermarrying.)

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** The Elves even have this towards ''each other:'' Thranduil tells Tauriel not to get her hopes up as in regards to Legolas, since she's just a lowly Silvan Elf. (The film's not exaggerating with this; a lot of Tolkien's Elves are notoriously bigoted and snobbish. However, concerning this particular case of disdain towards Silvan elves, according to Tolkien lore, Thranduil's (Sindarin) royal house is actually one of the few who "went native", adopting Silvan custom and culture -- possibly intermarrying.)
2nd Jul '17 2:02:31 AM DariusAngel
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Than the book it's based on. But Tolkien himself had planned to write a DarkerAndEdgier version of ''Literature/TheHobbit'' to fit better with the tone of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' and feature more [[CallForward Call Forwards]] to it, having completed two chapters of it before a friend advised him that what he had written was "excellent, but not ''The Hobbit'' an ymore" for fans of the original.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Than the book it's based on. But Tolkien himself had planned to write a DarkerAndEdgier version of ''Literature/TheHobbit'' to fit better with the tone of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' and feature more [[CallForward Call Forwards]] to it, having completed two chapters of it before a friend advised him that what he had written was "excellent, but not ''The Hobbit'' an ymore" anymore" for fans of the original.
2nd Jul '17 2:01:16 AM DariusAngel
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* CosmeticallyAdvancedPrequel: While the LOTR films estblished much of the aesthetics of the modern high fantasy settings, these aesthetics have been built upon over the years in a variety of works. Thus, to appear more spectacular, the structures are more grandiose and detailed (Erebor, Thranduil's halls, Dol Guldur), weapons and armor are more elaborate (noticeably in the case of dwarves and elves, but men and orcs as well) and the character designs are more diverse (all 13 dwarves, Radagast, as well as Azog and Bolg who are very distinct in appearance from any other orc). It also makes sense from an in-universe standpoint, as the world in ''The Hobbit'' is portrayed as distinctly magical and wondrous, while in ''Lord Of The Rings'' the sentiment is that TheMagicGoesAway.

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* CosmeticallyAdvancedPrequel: While the LOTR films estblished established much of the aesthetics of the modern high fantasy settings, these aesthetics have been built upon over the years in a variety of works. Thus, to appear more spectacular, the structures are more grandiose and detailed (Erebor, Thranduil's halls, Dol Guldur), weapons and armor are more elaborate (noticeably in the case of dwarves and elves, but men and orcs as well) and the character designs are more diverse (all 13 dwarves, Radagast, as well as Azog and Bolg who are very distinct in appearance from any other orc). It also makes sense from an in-universe standpoint, as the world in ''The Hobbit'' is portrayed as distinctly magical and wondrous, while in ''Lord Of The Rings'' the sentiment is that TheMagicGoesAway.
2nd Jul '17 1:52:33 AM DariusAngel
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* CanonForeigner: The woodland elf Tauriel, played by Evangeline Lily, has no counterpart in the book or any of Tolkien's notes. The rational behind her creation was that the movies needed at least one dominant female character (whereas the book had none named) and that she represents a lower class of elves than the royalty that had been prevalent in the rest of the saga.

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* CanonForeigner: The woodland elf Tauriel, played by Evangeline Lily, has no counterpart in the book or any of Tolkien's notes. The rational rationale behind her creation was that the movies needed at least one dominant female character (whereas the book had none named) and that she represents a lower class of elves than the royalty that had been prevalent in the rest of the saga.
4th Jun '17 4:23:38 AM Piterpicher
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When the Hobbit was first put into production, Guillermo Del Toro was originally attached as the director. He even got so far as concept art and casting before production stalled. Guillermo eventually had to move on to other projects, and Peter Jackson took over. Unfortunately to make a ‘clean slate’, all Guillermo’s concept art was destroyed. Judging from his visually stunning style seen in films like PansLabyrinth or Hellboy, we can only be left to imagine what an elaborate and fantastical world Guillermo's Erebor would have been.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When the Hobbit was first put into production, Guillermo Del Toro was originally attached as the director. He even got so far as concept art and casting before production stalled. Guillermo eventually had to move on to other projects, and Peter Jackson took over. Unfortunately to make a ‘clean slate’, all Guillermo’s concept art was destroyed. Judging from his visually stunning style seen in films like PansLabyrinth ''Film/PansLabyrinth'' or Hellboy, we can only be left to imagine what an elaborate and fantastical world Guillermo's Erebor would have been.
1st Jun '17 1:23:55 PM ZombieMonster
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* AbsurdlySharpBlade: Gandalf's Glamdring beheads a goblin [[CleanCut so cleanly]] that the head doesn't budge from the now stalled goblin -- complete with eyes still moving -- until Gandalf nudges it, causing it to fall. Since Thorin's Orcrist and Bilbo's small Sting come from the same source, so they can be assumed to share the same quality. This is true in the book as well; Bilbo demonstrates Sting to Frodo by thrusting it deep into a wooden beam with little effort.

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* AbsurdlySharpBlade: Gandalf's Glamdring beheads a goblin [[CleanCut so cleanly]] that the head doesn't budge from the now stalled goblin -- complete with eyes still moving -- until Gandalf nudges it, causing it to fall. Since Thorin's Orcrist and Bilbo's small Sting come from the same source, so they source,they can be assumed to share the same quality. This is true in the book as well; Bilbo demonstrates Sting to Frodo by thrusting it deep into a wooden beam with little effort.



** Robert Kazinsky was originally cast to play Fíli, but had to pull out in the first few months of filming, and was replaced by Dean O’Gorman. Most of Rob’s scenes were re-shot, but if you look closely in some of the Bag End scenes, specifically the Misty Mountains song, Rob’s Fíli is still visible. He also appears in a lot of BTS footage

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** Robert Kazinsky was originally cast to play Fíli, but had to pull out in the first few months of filming, and was replaced by Dean O’Gorman. Most of Rob’s scenes were re-shot, but if you look closely in some of the Bag End scenes, specifically the Misty Mountains song, Rob’s Fíli is still visible. He also appears in a lot of BTS footagefootage.
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