History Film / TheBoondockSaints

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** Rocco, obviously.
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* BadassGrandpa: Il Duce. [[spoiler:Turns out to be the Saints' daddy. Technically, he isn't a grandpa though.]]

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* BadassGrandpa: Il Duce. [[spoiler:Turns out to be the Saints' daddy. Technically, he isn't a grandpa grandpa, though.]]



** Subverted in the first film - [=McManus=] brothers say something to the Russian mobster before starting a bar fight in what is supposed to be Russian. What they really say however is utter gibberish, [[GeniusBonus which could be why Chekhov gives them a perplexed "Huh?"]]

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** Subverted in the first film - — the [=McManus=] brothers say something to the Russian mobster before starting a bar fight in what is supposed to be Russian. What they really say however say, however, is utter gibberish, [[GeniusBonus which could be why Chekhov gives them a perplexed "Huh?"]]



* FastRoping: Lampshaded by Connor and ends up being accidentally invoked by the Saints. In the sequel they play it straight... in an over-the-top way.
* FauxAffablyEvil: The Saints, concerning their actual targets. When dealing with innocents they fall under AffablyEvil or AntiVillain.

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* FastRoping: Lampshaded by Connor and ends up being accidentally invoked by the Saints. In the sequel sequel, they play it straight... in an over-the-top way.
* FauxAffablyEvil: The Saints, concerning their actual targets. When dealing with innocents innocents, they fall under AffablyEvil or AntiVillain.



** Then, after Smecker's done with their interview, Smecker asks if they know any other languages apart from Russian, since part of their story included taunting a [[TheMafiya Mafiya]] thug in his native tongue. They proceed to show off by speaking French, Italian, German, and Spanish in front of Smecker, by having a quick conversation wondering how he figured most of their story without having to talk to them. To Smecker's credit, he seems to pick up on the conversation by the time it finishes up.

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** Then, after Smecker's done with their interview, Smecker asks if they know any other languages apart from Russian, since part of their story included taunting a [[TheMafiya Mafiya]] thug in his native tongue. They proceed to show off by speaking French, Italian, German, and Spanish in front of Smecker, by having a quick conversation wondering how he figured out most of their story without having to talk to them. To Smecker's credit, he seems to pick up on the conversation by the time it finishes up.



* HitmanWithAHeart: The brothers and Il Duce have a very Leon-esque code about "no women, no kids." [[spoiler:Fitting, seeing that Il Duce is the brothers' father]].

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* HitmanWithAHeart: The brothers and Il Duce have a very Leon-esque code about "no women, no kids." [[spoiler:Fitting, seeing that Il Duce is the brothers' father]].father.]]



* IconicItem: The pennies that the Saints [[DueToTheDead place on their victim's eyes]], as well as Il Duce's [[MoreDakka vest full of guns.]] Romeo is able to figure out who they are quickly in the sequel, since not only do they ''talk'' about [[ExactEavesdropping matching their police sketches and dying their hair to reduce the risk of being recognized]], but they are a pair of Irish guys carrying a bunch of pennies. The brothers' wooden rosaries also count.

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* IconicItem: The pennies that the Saints [[DueToTheDead place on their victim's victims’ eyes]], as well as Il Duce's [[MoreDakka vest full of guns.]] Romeo is able to figure out who they are quickly in the sequel, since not only do they ''talk'' about [[ExactEavesdropping matching their police sketches and dying their hair to reduce the risk of being recognized]], but they are a pair of Irish guys carrying a bunch of pennies. The brothers' wooden rosaries also count.



* KnightOfCerebus: Whenever Il Duce gets called in around the halfway mark, things get serious. Which is ''very'' odd seeing as Il Duce is played by ''Creator/BillyConnolly''.

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* KnightOfCerebus: Whenever Il Duce gets called in around the halfway mark, things get serious. Which is ''very'' odd odd, seeing as Il Duce is played by ''Creator/BillyConnolly''.



* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler:Il Duce is the brothers' father]].

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* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler:Il Duce is the brothers' father]].father.]]



* ManChild: When they're not shooting people in the head, Connor and Murphy bicker and tussle like ten year old boys. The fact that, when hunting down and executing bad guys, their "tactics" almost always stem from some badass scene they saw in a TV show or movie reinforces this trope even more.

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* ManChild: When they're not shooting people in the head, Connor and Murphy bicker and tussle like ten year old ten-year-old boys. The fact that, when hunting down and executing bad guys, their "tactics" almost always stem from some badass scene they saw in a TV show or movie reinforces this trope even more.



* MoralDissonance: The brothers' moral compass is a bit loose. They give Rocco a free pass, despite him having a career in the Mafia which failed only because of his own incompetence, because he's a good drinking buddy. And they are perfectly willing to buy all their guns from a man ''heavily'' implied to be [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles IRA]]. Not to mention they seem to have no qualms about stealing from the mobsters they kill even before they receive their MissionFromGod. Also Connor [[spoiler:somehow seems to know what heroin tastes like, to which Murphy responds, "How the fuck would ''you'' know?"]] in the sequel. Lampshaded by Rocco:

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* MoralDissonance: The brothers' moral compass is a bit loose. They give Rocco a free pass, despite him having a career in the Mafia which failed only because of his own incompetence, because he's a good drinking buddy. And they are perfectly willing to buy all their guns from a man ''heavily'' implied to be [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles IRA]]. Not to mention they seem to have no qualms about stealing from the mobsters they kill even before they receive their MissionFromGod. Also Also, Connor [[spoiler:somehow seems to know what heroin tastes like, to which Murphy responds, "How the fuck would ''you'' know?"]] in the sequel. Lampshaded by Rocco:



* NoNameGiven: One is more likely to survive in this film ''without'' a name. The brothers' names are Connor and Murphy -- which is rarely mentioned in either film while every other character gets a pause and a brief caption that literally spells out their identity. Il Duce [[spoiler:their father]] gets a caption that reveals absolutely nothing and is only addressed by his real name, [[spoiler:Noah]], in the second film. The Roman as well only gets a proper name during the last third of the second film. The only aversion to the survival rate was the "Sick Fuck!" He is credited as "Sick Mob Man".

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* NoNameGiven: One is more likely to survive in this film ''without'' a name. The brothers' names are Connor and Murphy -- which is rarely mentioned in either film film, while every other character gets a pause and a brief caption that literally spells out their identity. Il Duce [[spoiler:their father]] [[spoiler:(their father)]] gets a caption that reveals absolutely nothing and is only addressed by his real name, [[spoiler:Noah]], in the second film. The Roman as well only gets a proper name during the last third of the second film. The only aversion to the survival rate was the "Sick Fuck!" He is credited as "Sick Mob Man".



* {{Omniglot}}: The brothers speak several languages including English, Irish, Russian, Spanish, Italian, German, and French.

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* {{Omniglot}}: The brothers speak several languages languages, including English, Irish, Russian, Spanish, Italian, German, and French.



* RealityEnsues: In the first film, the AirVentPassageway the brothers attempt to do during their first official hit goes to shit because-- the vent isn't built for two grown men with rope, who have a tenacity to argue, to pass through.
** Also, by the end of the film, [[spoiler:after the brothers and their dad kill the BigBad]], the public view on the brothers is mixed because, despite cleaning up the streets, some just see them as psychopaths probably for actions such as [[spoiler:killing a mob boss in a public courtroom]].

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* RealityEnsues: In the first film, the AirVentPassageway the brothers attempt to do during their first official hit goes to shit because-- because, well, the vent isn't built for two grown men with rope, who have a tenacity to argue, to pass through.
** Also, by the end of the film, [[spoiler:after the brothers and their dad kill the BigBad]], the public view on the brothers is mixed because, despite cleaning up the streets, some just see them as psychopaths psychopaths, probably for actions such as [[spoiler:killing a mob boss in a public courtroom]].



** In the first movie, Rocco emphasizes a point by slamming his hands down on a table, causing the Beretta 92 pistol sitting on the table -- which, mind you, is standard issue for U.S. soldiers and designed specifically to avert this trope[[note]] It's often said that the safety is the ''only'' part of a Beretta that's actually reliable[[/note]] -- to fire, killing [[spoiler:the [[ThatPoorCat poor pussycat]] that was laying next to it]]. Particularly jarring compared to the courthouse climax when the baliffs drop their guns from a mezzanine fifteen or twenty feet up without any mishap. In the DVD commentary, it's stated that this scene exists due to a combination of RuleOfFunny and [[spoiler:a hatred of cats]].
** The sequel averts this, however, when the brothers [[spoiler:drop their Desert Eagles when surrounded by police and SWAT after the last shoot-out.]]

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** In the first movie, Rocco emphasizes a point by slamming his hands down on a table, causing the Beretta 92 pistol sitting on the table -- which, mind you, is standard issue for U.S. soldiers and designed specifically to avert this trope[[note]] It's trope[[note]]it's often said that the safety is the ''only'' part of a Beretta that's actually reliable[[/note]] -- to fire, killing [[spoiler:the [[ThatPoorCat poor pussycat]] that was laying next to it]]. Particularly jarring compared to the courthouse climax when the baliffs drop their guns from a mezzanine fifteen or twenty feet up without any mishap. In the DVD commentary, it's stated that this scene exists due to a combination of RuleOfFunny and [[spoiler:a hatred of cats]].
** The sequel averts this, however, when the brothers [[spoiler:drop their Desert Eagles when surrounded by police and SWAT after the last shoot-out.]]shoot-out]].



* TeamTitle: Though the brothers are occasionally called saints the "boondock" part is never mentioned.

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* TeamTitle: Though the brothers are occasionally called saints saints, the "boondock" part is never mentioned.



* AirVentPassageway: Subverted and Lampshaded - the brothers use an air vent to get into the Russian Mobster's meeting, but get lost. They only end up in the right place because they start fighting each other and cause the vent to break through the ceiling, dumping them right into the correct room. Later, Smecker lampshades this, noting that they're amateurs because air vent escapes only happen on TV and no pro would try it.

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* AirVentPassageway: Subverted and Lampshaded - the brothers use an air vent to get into the Russian Mobster's meeting, but get lost. They only end up in the right place because they start fighting each other and cause the vent to break through the ceiling, dumping them right into the correct room. Later, Smecker lampshades this, noting that they're amateurs because air vent escapes only happen on TV and no pro would try it.



* ApatheticCitizens: "Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

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* ApatheticCitizens: "Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is [[BystanderSyndrome the indifference of good men.men]]."



* {{Fingore}}: In the shootout with Il Duce, Rocco loses a finger, which Smecker uses to identify him by means of his fingerprint. [[spoiler:When the Saints get captured by Yakavetta's men, Papa Joe shoots off another one of Rocco's fingers before ultimately deciding to kill him]].
* {{Flashback}}: All the hits except the last are shown like this, usually involving Agent Smecker working out what happened. Eventually Smecker and the Saints are shown in the same scene, showing how Smecker now identifies with them.

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* {{Fingore}}: In the shootout with Il Duce, Rocco loses a finger, which Smecker uses to identify him by means of his fingerprint. [[spoiler:When the Saints get captured by Yakavetta's men, Papa Joe shoots off another one of Rocco's fingers before ultimately deciding to kill him]].
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* {{Flashback}}: All the hits except the last are shown like this, usually involving Agent Smecker working out what happened. Eventually Eventually, Smecker and the Saints are shown in the same scene, showing how Smecker now identifies with them.



* GoryDiscretionShot: As soon as the [=McManus=] brothers [[spoiler:and their father Il Duce]] have finished with their prayer during the last scene of the movie, they [[spoiler:blow off Don Yakavetta's head with two silenced Beretta 92's [[YourHeadAsplode AND a Franchi PA3/215 shotgun]] ]]. Obviously, we don't see the carnage, as it cuts to a shot showing Smecker's horrified expression before he closes his eyes and turns away. Note that he only shuts his eyes a split second AFTER the shotgun fired, meaning that he saw what we didn't in that scene.

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* GoryDiscretionShot: As soon as the [=McManus=] brothers [[spoiler:and their father Il Duce]] have finished with their prayer during the last scene of the movie, they [[spoiler:blow off Don Yakavetta's head with two silenced Beretta 92's [[YourHeadAsplode AND a Franchi PA3/215 shotgun]] ]].shotgun]]]]. Obviously, we don't see the carnage, as it cuts to a shot showing Smecker's horrified expression before he closes his eyes and turns away. Note that he only shuts his eyes a split second AFTER the shotgun fired, meaning that he saw what we didn't in that scene.



* JurisdictionFriction: Averted. When Smecker is introduced, DaChief gives the cops outright orders to co-operate fully. The police hate Smecker's arrogance at first, but quickly come to respect his skills.
* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: The shootout between the Saints and II Duce. The mundane explanation is three self-confessed amateurs against a hit man who hasn't been able to practice his skills in twenty five years. The magical explanation is that they were chosen by God to carry out a specific mission, and wouldn't be allowed to kill each other so long as they were needed.
** The Twins in general. Did they really recieve a mission from God to punish evildoers and from that moment on are under His protection, or are they just two extremely lucky goofs who took some random idea way too seriously? The movie is ambiguous enough to make both explanations equaly possible.

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* JurisdictionFriction: Averted. When Smecker is introduced, DaChief gives the cops outright orders to co-operate cooperate fully. The police hate Smecker's arrogance at first, but quickly come to respect his skills.
* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: The shootout between the Saints and II Duce. The mundane explanation is three self-confessed amateurs against a hit man who hasn't been able to practice his skills in twenty five twenty-five years. The magical explanation is that they were chosen by God to carry out a specific mission, and wouldn't be allowed to kill each other so long as they were needed.
** The Twins in general. Did they really recieve a mission from God to punish evildoers and from that moment on are under His protection, or are they just two extremely lucky goofs who took some random idea way too seriously? The movie is ambiguous enough to make both explanations equaly equally possible.



* MotivationOnAStick: Detective Greenley humorously suggests that the only way they're going to catch the [=McManus=] brothers is by "...dangling a potato on a string" -- of course, they walk in just as he's saying this.

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* MotivationOnAStick: Detective Greenley humorously suggests that the only way they're going to catch the [=McManus=] brothers is by "...dangling a potato on a string" -- of course, they walk in just as he's saying this.



** Earlier in the same film, after Yakavetta's men have [[spoiler:captured the Saints, and realized that Il Duce, whom they hired to kill the Saints and loves killing Mafiosos ''isn't going to stop until he's killed somebody'']].

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** Earlier in the same film, after Yakavetta's men have [[spoiler:captured the Saints, and realized that Il Duce, whom they hired to kill the Saints and loves killing Mafiosos Mafiosos, ''isn't going to stop until he's killed somebody'']].



* StoutStrength: Referenced. When Greenly sees the state of the two mobsters in the alley (who have been physically crushed), his theory is that they were beaten to death by a 500 pound mugger.

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* StoutStrength: Referenced. When Greenly sees the state of the two mobsters in the alley (who have been physically crushed), his theory is that they were beaten to death by a 500 pound 500-pound mugger.



* BigBadWannabe: [[spoiler:Concezio is killed, but it's revealed there's a ManBehindTheMan: the Roman aka Louie.]]

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* BigBadWannabe: [[spoiler:Concezio is killed, but it's revealed there's a ManBehindTheMan: the Roman Roman, aka Louie.]]



* FaceDeathWithDignity: Once cornered, [[spoiler:Concezio]] merely crosses himself and says ''[[FamousLastWords "Vaffanculo"]]'' which is [[BilingualBonus Italian for "Fuck you"]]. Not to mention a call-back to [[spoiler:his father, who did the same thing before being executed by the Saints]].

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* FaceDeathWithDignity: Once cornered, [[spoiler:Concezio]] merely crosses himself and says ''[[FamousLastWords "Vaffanculo"]]'' "Vaffanculo"]]'', which is [[BilingualBonus Italian for "Fuck you"]]. Not to mention a call-back to [[spoiler:his father, who did the same thing before being executed by the Saints]].



* UnwittingPawn: Concezio Yakavetta religiously followed the orders of [[spoiler:the Roman]], completely unaware that [[spoiler:Louie was actually trying to bring the Saints and their father back so they could eliminate the Yakavetta family in revenge for casting him out.]]

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* UnwittingPawn: Concezio Yakavetta religiously followed the orders of [[spoiler:the Roman]], completely unaware that [[spoiler:Louie was actually trying to bring the Saints and their father back so they could eliminate the Yakavetta family in revenge for casting him out.]]out]].
25th Jan '18 9:55:48 PM Arha
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* CoinsForTheDead: The MacManus brothers place coins over the eyes of their execution victims.
16th Nov '17 3:50:37 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* ChristianityIsCatholic: Justified, in that almost all of the characters who are shown to be religious are Irish, Italian, or Mexican.

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* ChristianityIsCatholic: Justified, in that almost all of the characters who are shown to be religious are Irish, Italian, or Mexican. The [=McManus=] clan seems to be off in their own little vaguely Catholic-ish sect, complete with their own prayers.
26th Oct '17 12:43:18 AM BeastC
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* BigBadWannabe: [[spoiler:Concezio is killed, but it's revealed there's a ManBehindTheMan: the Roman aka Louie.]]


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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: [[spoiler:The official trailer reveals Creator/PeterFonda's involvement in the film. However, he is only seen with his back turned throughout the movie and [[FaceRevealingTurn his face is only revealed]] in the end after his role as the ManBehindTheMan and BigBad is discovered.]]
10th Oct '17 2:19:40 PM x_countryguy
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%%* FightingIrish

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%%* FightingIrish* FightingIrish: Connor and Murphy take being Irish very seriously and will throw down pretty much anywhere.



* SiblingTeam: The [=McManus=] twins.

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* SiblingTeam: The [=McManus=] twins.twins are inseparable and are partners in crime.



* TeamTitle
* ThrowAwayGuns: Il Duce's signature gun vest.

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* TeamTitle
TeamTitle: Though the brothers are occasionally called saints the "boondock" part is never mentioned.
* ThrowAwayGuns: Il Duce's signature gun vest.vest allows him to carry six handguns at once.



%%* CreativeClosingCredits

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%%* CreativeClosingCredits* CreativeClosingCredits: Several people are interviewed by a reporter about their opinions of the saints.



-->''Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. ''

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-->''Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. ''



* CallBack: Many.

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* CallBack: Many.There are several call backs to the first movie.
** Doc's Tourette's is weaponized into joke form in one scene.
** The cat that was accidentally shot in the first movie reappears in a dream sequence.



* FakingTheDead: [[spoiler:Smecker]]

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* FakingTheDead: [[spoiler:Smecker]][[spoiler:Smecker apparently dies between movies but he's been laying low. Bloom is not amused.]]



* ForkliftFu

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* ForkliftFuForkliftFu: Romeo finds that driving a forklift as an infiltration vehicle is much tougher than he thought it would be. It still works out, though.



* FunnyBackgroundEvent[=/=]{{Noodle Implement|s}}: When Bloom and the Detectives are in the briefing room with the police chief, a beat cop walks in carrying a dog. The Chief immediately tells him to get out.
* GilliganCut: [[spoiler:After the Saints' hit on the Chinese.]]
** Greenly says, "They're either on their way here, or they're already here." Just as we're expecting a Badass Entry of the Saints doing the slow walk, we instead cut to them squeezed into a Volkswagon Beetle.

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* FunnyBackgroundEvent[=/=]{{Noodle Implement|s}}: FunnyBackgroundEvent: When Bloom and the Detectives are in the briefing room with the police chief, a beat cop walks in carrying a dog. The Chief immediately tells him to get out.
* GilliganCut: [[spoiler:After the Saints' hit on the Chinese.]]
**
Greenly says, "They're either on their way here, or they're already here." Just as we're expecting a Badass Entry of the Saints doing the slow walk, we instead cut to them squeezed into a Volkswagon Beetle.



* JurisdictionFriction: Played straight.
* {{Malaproper}}: Concezio Yakkaveta uses these constantly. [[BadBoss God help you, if you correct him]].

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* JurisdictionFriction: Played straight.
straight between the Boston police and the FBI.
* {{Malaproper}}: Concezio Yakkaveta uses these constantly. [[BadBoss God help you, you if you correct him]].



* PosthumousCharacter: Rocco [[spoiler:and Greenly.]]

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* PosthumousCharacter: Rocco [[spoiler:and Greenly.]]Greenly]] show up in a dream sequence.



* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: In the sequel, the brothers avenge the murder of their childhood priest. Then there's Il Duce's case mentioned under FreudianExcuse.

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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: In the sequel, the brothers avenge the murder of their childhood priest. Then there's Il Duce's case mentioned under FreudianExcuse.



* SequelHook: The ending of the second film.

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* SequelHook: The ending of explicitly lays the second film.groundwork for the next adventure.



* TapOnTheHead: When pistol whipping someone, it works better when you use a gun that's bigger then the size of your palm.

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* TapOnTheHead: When pistol whipping someone, someone it works better when you use a gun that's bigger then the size of your palm.
19th Sep '17 6:13:22 AM BlackSwan81
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-->Greenly: I ain't getting him no fucking bagel.



* MsFanservice: Special Agent Eunice Bloom, in the Old Western getup.

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* MsFanservice: Special Agent Eunice Bloom, especially in the Old Western gunslinger getup.
19th Sep '17 5:52:59 AM BlackSwan81
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* FreudianSlip: "Fag man" instead of "fat man," though Smecker takes it in stride. During a pep talk, Rocco has one during his RatedMForManly speech.
-->'''Rocco:''' You think that the men who built all this had it easy?\\
'''Murphy:''' Hard men!\\
'''Connor:''' Doing hard shit!\\
'''Rocco:''' And that gives me a hard-on! ''[RecordScratch]'' But not in a gay way or anything like that.



* FreudianSlip: "Fag man" instead of "fat man," though Smecker takes it in stride. During a pep talk, Rocco has one during his RatedMForManly speech.
-->'''Rocco:''' You think that the men who built all this had it easy?\\
'''Murphy:''' Hard men!\\
'''Connor:''' Doing hard shit!\\
'''Rocco:''' And that gives me a hard-on! ''[RecordScratch]'' But not in a gay way or anything like that.
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* Fanservice: Both brothers are [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] when they awaken from the vision/dream.

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* Fanservice: {{Fanservice}}: Both brothers are [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] when they awaken from the vision/dream.
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* ShirtlessScene: When the twins awaken from the vision/dream in both films they get one of these.


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* Fanservice: Both brothers are [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] when they awaken from the vision/dream.
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