History Film / TheBlackHole

15th Jun '17 9:40:27 PM 64SuperNintendo
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Many consider this film to be Disney's biggest flop (which lead to countless jokes about the company's money being tossed into the eponymous hole), and that it represents everything that was wrong with Ron Miller's leadership of the company. In actual fact it made $35m on a budget of $20m, so it did earn a slight profit for the company; nonetheless, not very many people regard the film as one of Disney's finer moments. (However, it is considered a science fiction classic and is often cited alongside ''Film/BladeRunner'' and ''Film/{{Tron}}'' as examples of films that failed upon first release only to be critically reappraised and become cult favorites later on.) On the plus side, along with one other movie that was released the same year, it was the first ever Disney movie to be given a PG rating; something that ultimately would lead to the creation of Disney's separate non-Disney branded label, Creator/TouchstonePictures in 1984 (with the PG-rated ''Film/{{Splash}}'' as its first release).

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Many consider this film to be Disney's biggest flop (which lead to countless jokes about the company's money being tossed into the eponymous hole), and that it represents everything that was wrong with Ron Miller's leadership of the company. In actual fact fact, it made $35m on a budget of $20m, so it did earn a slight profit for the company; nonetheless, not very many people regard the film as one of Disney's finer moments. (However, it is considered a science fiction classic and is often cited alongside ''Film/BladeRunner'' and ''Film/{{Tron}}'' as examples of films that failed upon first release only to be critically reappraised and become cult favorites later on.) On the plus side, along with one other movie that was released the same year, it was the first ever Disney movie to be given a PG rating; something that ultimately would lead to the creation of Disney's separate non-Disney branded label, Creator/TouchstonePictures in 1984 (with the PG-rated ''Film/{{Splash}}'' as its first release).
8th Mar '17 6:32:08 AM akih08
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor / TemptingFate: After winning the first shootout with Reinhardt's robots, Old B.O.B. wishes that "Reinhardt and Maximillian had been out there." [[spoiler: He gets his wish partially granted later and ends up fatally damaged as a result.]]



* TemptingFate: After winning the first shootout with Reinhardt's robots, Old B.O.B. wishes that "Reinhardt and Maximillian had been out there." [[spoiler: He gets his wish partially granted later and ends up fatally damaged as a result.]]
6th Mar '17 4:37:02 PM JTurner
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* DeadpanSnarker: V.I.N.Cent., thanks to his endless store of quotations.

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* DeadpanSnarker: V.I.N.Cent.CENT., thanks to his endless store of quotations.



---> ''[S.T.A.R. approaches V.I.N.Cent and B.O.B. in the shooting gallery]''

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---> ''[S.T.A.R. approaches V.I.N.Cent CENT. and B.O.B. in the shooting gallery]''



---> '''V.I.N.Cent.:''' As an old war hero once said, Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

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---> '''V.I.N.Cent.CENT.:''' As an old war hero once said, Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!



* DopeSlap: Inverted when Reinhardt triple slaps his own forehead when rebuking Maximilian for the Sentries' failure against V.I.N.Cent and Old B.O.B.

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* DopeSlap: Inverted when Reinhardt triple slaps his own forehead when rebuking Maximilian for the Sentries' failure against V.I.N.Cent CENT. and Old B.O.B.



* {{Expy}}: V.I.N.CENT is a ''slightly'' less effeminate, and considerably more competent version of [[Franchise/StarWars C-3P0]] ([[XMeetsY with an R2-D2 style body]]).

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* {{Expy}}: V.I.N.CENT CENT. is a ''slightly'' less effeminate, and considerably more competent version of [[Franchise/StarWars C-3P0]] ([[XMeetsY with an R2-D2 style body]]).



* FunWithAcronyms: [=V.I.N.Cent. (Vital Information Necessary CENTralized)=]

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* FunWithAcronyms: [=V.I.N.Cent.CENT. (Vital Information Necessary CENTralized)=]



** [=V.I.N.Cent=] and B.O.B. are also equipped with laser emitters in both of their front "arms." (Their grasping manipulators extend to the sides, from their "shoulders.") [=V.I.N.Cent=]'s are disabled (i.e., shot out) by the automated security system soon after boarding ''Cygnus.'' They are then repaired ''twice:'' He gets a temporary fix for the shooting gallery scene, and a permanent fix from B.O.B. shortly thereafter, to aid the humans during the final battle. (This is one of the signs the shooting gallery scene was a last-minute addition.)

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** [=V.I.N.Cent=] CENT.=] and B.O.B. are also equipped with laser emitters in both of their front "arms." (Their grasping manipulators extend to the sides, from their "shoulders.") [=V.I.N.Cent=]'s CENT.=]'s are disabled (i.e., shot out) by the automated security system soon after boarding ''Cygnus.'' They are then repaired ''twice:'' He gets a temporary fix for the shooting gallery scene, and a permanent fix from B.O.B. shortly thereafter, to aid the humans during the final battle. (This is one of the signs the shooting gallery scene was a last-minute addition.)



* IdiotBall: Reinhardt would've avoided so much trouble if he had just remembered to keep [=B.O.B.=] out of reach from the Palomino crew instead of letting it become pals with [=V.I.N.CENT=] and telling it what actually happened to the crew of the ''Cygnus''...no one else on the ship could have told them anything, since they're all robots without speech capability. In the novelization, B.O.B. explains that Reinhardt and Maximillian missed reprogramming him to be obedient, as they did all the other robots on the ship, because he was deactivated [[spoiler: during the mutiny]], and he has survived with his personality intact since then by acting like he had been reprogrammed.

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* IdiotBall: Reinhardt would've avoided so much trouble if he had just remembered to keep [=B.O.B.=] out of reach from the Palomino crew instead of letting it become pals with [=V.I.N.CENT=] CENT.=] and telling it what actually happened to the crew of the ''Cygnus''...no one else on the ship could have told them anything, since they're all robots without speech capability. In the novelization, B.O.B. explains that Reinhardt and Maximillian missed reprogramming him to be obedient, as they did all the other robots on the ship, because he was deactivated [[spoiler: during the mutiny]], and he has survived with his personality intact since then by acting like he had been reprogrammed.



** [[spoiler: Maximillian gets one of his own; his signature weapons are those horrible drills, and he gets a neat little hole drilled in his own torso by V.I.N.C.E.N.T., in much the same way that he had eviscerated Dr. Durant.]]

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** [[spoiler: Maximillian gets one of his own; his signature weapons are those horrible drills, and he gets a neat little hole drilled in his own torso by V.I.N.C.E.N.T.CENT., in much the same way that he had eviscerated Dr. Durant.]]



* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: It starts out as a hard sci-fi exploration flick, in that the ''Palomino'' maneuvers like a real spacecraft with the main thruster and attitude jets, and everyone in the spacecraft is weightless except when they are under acceleration, etc. Then Dr. [=McCrae=] is asked to use her [=ESP=] to talk to their RobotBuddy (though [[AllThereInTheManual the novelization explains it is not actually paranormal-related]]. Then they board the ''Cygnus'', which has an ''ArtificialGravity'' forecefield developed by Reinhardt from his research on the black hole. There's a gradual process of moving from 4 to 1 on the scale, with the human characters moving around ''outside'' the ''Cygnus'' in shirtsleeves near the end with no noticeable ill effects.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the actors refused to wear the cumbersome spacesuits designed for the scene. Maybe they're supposed to be swimming around inside atmosphere flowing from a breach in the ship's hull? Then again, one could argue that, as Reinhart predicted, [[RealityIsOutToLunch the laws of nature have started to go wibbly-wobbly by this point anyway.]] [[/note]] Then they travel through the black hole itself [[GainaxEnding and through the afterlife(?).]]

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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: It starts out as a hard sci-fi exploration flick, in that the ''Palomino'' maneuvers like a real spacecraft with the main thruster and attitude jets, and everyone in the spacecraft is weightless except when they are under acceleration, etc. Then Dr. [=McCrae=] is asked to use her [=ESP=] to talk to their RobotBuddy (though [[AllThereInTheManual the novelization explains it is not actually paranormal-related]]. Then they board the ''Cygnus'', which has an ''ArtificialGravity'' forecefield forcefield developed by Reinhardt from his research on the black hole. There's a gradual process of moving from 4 to 1 on the scale, with the human characters moving around ''outside'' the ''Cygnus'' in shirtsleeves near the end with no noticeable ill effects.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the actors refused to wear the cumbersome spacesuits designed for the scene. Maybe they're supposed to be swimming around inside atmosphere flowing from a breach in the ship's hull? Then again, one could argue that, as Reinhart predicted, [[RealityIsOutToLunch the laws of nature have started to go wibbly-wobbly by this point anyway.]] [[/note]] Then they travel through the black hole itself [[GainaxEnding and through the afterlife(?).]]



* OffTheShelfFX; The cartoon google eyes for B.O.B. and [=V.I.N.CENT=], which were hastily glued onto them to compensate for the fact that their original computer screen eyes failed to work on the first day of shooting.

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* OffTheShelfFX; The cartoon google eyes for B.O.B. and [=V.I.N.CENT=], CENT.=], which were hastily glued onto them to compensate for the fact that their original computer screen eyes failed to work on the first day of shooting.



* PsychicPowers: Dr. [=McCrae=] has a telepathic link with [=V.I.N.CENT=]. According to the novelization it's thanks to a cybernetic impant in her brain.

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* PsychicPowers: Dr. [=McCrae=] has a telepathic link with [=V.I.N.CENT=].CENT.=]. According to the novelization it's thanks to a cybernetic impant in her brain.



* RobotBuddy: [=V.I.N.CENT=] and Old [=BOB=]. Maximillian, not so much.

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* RobotBuddy: [=V.I.N.CENT=] CENT.=] and Old [=BOB=]. Maximillian, not so much.



** This movie has religious symbolism out the wazoo: in addition to the foreshadowing comparisons of the Black Hole with Hell ("My god, it's right out of Dante's ''Inferno''"; "Every time I see one of these things I expect to see a guy in a red suit with a pitchfork"), Durant says it may lead "into the mind of God". Reinhardt likens [=V.I.N.CENT=] and Maximilian to David and Goliath and quotes from Genesis. The ''Cygnus'' looks like a Gothic cathedral, the control panels on the bridge look like stained glass windows, and the humanoids are dressed like monks. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Reinhardt offhandedly remarks that it's another of his "theatrical gestures".

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** This movie has religious symbolism out the wazoo: in addition to the foreshadowing comparisons of the Black Hole with Hell ("My god, it's right out of Dante's ''Inferno''"; "Every time I see one of these things I expect to see a guy in a red suit with a pitchfork"), Durant says it may lead "into the mind of God". Reinhardt likens [=V.I.N.CENT=] CENT.=] and Maximilian to David and Goliath and quotes from Genesis. The ''Cygnus'' looks like a Gothic cathedral, the control panels on the bridge look like stained glass windows, and the humanoids are dressed like monks. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Reinhardt offhandedly remarks that it's another of his "theatrical gestures".



* SouthernFriedGenius: Old BOB (he got his accent from having been programmed in Houston.)

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* SouthernFriedGenius: Old BOB B.O.B. (he got his accent from having been programmed in Houston.)



** [=V.I.N.CENT=] has a drill. He asks Maximillian to say hi to his drill near the end of the movie.

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** [=V.I.N.CENT=] CENT.=] has a drill. He asks Maximillian to say hi to his drill near the end of the movie.



* TinCanRobot: B.O.B. and V.I.N.CENT

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* TinCanRobot: B.O.B. and V.I.N.CENTCENT..



** [[spoiler: He does, however, let out an electronic sounding shriek when V.I.N.CENT drills him at the end.]]

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** [[spoiler: He does, however, let out an electronic sounding shriek when V.I.N.CENT CENT. drills him at the end.]]
29th Nov '16 8:08:43 AM DaBradGuy
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** Of course, all of Reinhardt's mistakes [[FridgeBrilliance make perfect sense]] when you realize that the man is ''completely insane.''


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** The original concept for the film was Film/ThePoseidonAdventure in space, and it shows in the last twenty minutes.


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** Charlie correctly shoots this down: "I'm sure that's not what he had in mind. He was trying to save his own skin!"
9th Nov '16 9:16:03 AM nombretomado
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* ComicBookAdaptation: There was a NewspaperComic, drawn by JackKirby, and the movie was adapted by Whitman Comics, an imprint of Creator/GoldKeyComics. The Gold Key title actually went on to publish two extremely rare ''original stories'', the only official fiction to be set after the events of the film.

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* ComicBookAdaptation: There was a NewspaperComic, drawn by JackKirby, Creator/JackKirby, and the movie was adapted by Whitman Comics, an imprint of Creator/GoldKeyComics. The Gold Key title actually went on to publish two extremely rare ''original stories'', the only official fiction to be set after the events of the film.
21st Oct '16 9:03:01 PM HelloLamppost
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* AcidTripDimension: The black hole's "Einstein-Rosen Bridge" ("wormhole" in plain English).

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* AcidTripDimension: The black hole's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole "Einstein-Rosen Bridge" ("wormhole" in plain English).]]
21st Oct '16 8:12:06 PM HelloLamppost
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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: It starts out as a hard sci-fi exploration flick, in that the ''Palomino'' maneuvers like a real spacecraft with the main thruster and attitude jets, and everyone in the spacecraft is weightless except when they are under acceleration, etc. Then Dr. [=McCrae=] is asked to use her [=ESP=] to talk to their RobotBuddy (though [[AllThereInTheManual the novelization explains it is not actually paranormal-related]]. Then they board the ''Cygnus'', which has an ''ArtificialGravity'' forecefield developed by Reinhardt from his research on the black hole. There's a gradual process of moving from 4 to 1 on the scale, with the human characters moving around ''outside'' the ''Cygnus'' in shirtsleeves near the end with no noticeable ill effects.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the actors refused to wear the cumbersome spacesuits designed for the scene. Maybe they're supposed to be swimming around inside atmosphere flowing from a breach in the ship's hull? Then again, as Reinhart predicted, [[RealityIsOutToLunch the laws of nature have started to go wibbly-wobbly by this point anyway.]] [[/note]] Then they travel through the black hole itself [[GainaxEnding and through the afterlife(?).]]

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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: It starts out as a hard sci-fi exploration flick, in that the ''Palomino'' maneuvers like a real spacecraft with the main thruster and attitude jets, and everyone in the spacecraft is weightless except when they are under acceleration, etc. Then Dr. [=McCrae=] is asked to use her [=ESP=] to talk to their RobotBuddy (though [[AllThereInTheManual the novelization explains it is not actually paranormal-related]]. Then they board the ''Cygnus'', which has an ''ArtificialGravity'' forecefield developed by Reinhardt from his research on the black hole. There's a gradual process of moving from 4 to 1 on the scale, with the human characters moving around ''outside'' the ''Cygnus'' in shirtsleeves near the end with no noticeable ill effects.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the actors refused to wear the cumbersome spacesuits designed for the scene. Maybe they're supposed to be swimming around inside atmosphere flowing from a breach in the ship's hull? Then again, one could argue that, as Reinhart predicted, [[RealityIsOutToLunch the laws of nature have started to go wibbly-wobbly by this point anyway.]] [[/note]] Then they travel through the black hole itself [[GainaxEnding and through the afterlife(?).]]
21st Oct '16 8:10:55 PM HelloLamppost
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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: It starts out as a hard sci-fi exploration flick, in that the ''Palomino'' maneuvers like a real spacecraft with the main thruster and attitude jets, and everyone in the spacecraft is weightless except when they are under acceleration, etc. Then Dr. [=McCrae=] is asked to use her [=ESP=] to talk to their RobotBuddy (though [[AllThereInTheManual the novelization explains it is not actually paranormal-related]]. Then they board the ''Cygnus'', which has an ''ArtificialGravity'' forecefield developed by Reinhardt from his research on the black hole. There's a gradual process of moving from 4 to 1 on the scale, with the human characters moving around ''outside'' the ''Cygnus'' in shirtsleeves near the end with no noticeable ill effects.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the actors refused to wear the cumbersome spacesuits designed for the scene. Maybe they're supposed to be swimming around inside atmosphere flowing from a breach in the ship's hull?[[/note]] Then they travel through the black hole itself [[GainaxEnding and through the afterlife(?).]]

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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: It starts out as a hard sci-fi exploration flick, in that the ''Palomino'' maneuvers like a real spacecraft with the main thruster and attitude jets, and everyone in the spacecraft is weightless except when they are under acceleration, etc. Then Dr. [=McCrae=] is asked to use her [=ESP=] to talk to their RobotBuddy (though [[AllThereInTheManual the novelization explains it is not actually paranormal-related]]. Then they board the ''Cygnus'', which has an ''ArtificialGravity'' forecefield developed by Reinhardt from his research on the black hole. There's a gradual process of moving from 4 to 1 on the scale, with the human characters moving around ''outside'' the ''Cygnus'' in shirtsleeves near the end with no noticeable ill effects.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the actors refused to wear the cumbersome spacesuits designed for the scene. Maybe they're supposed to be swimming around inside atmosphere flowing from a breach in the ship's hull?[[/note]] hull? Then again, as Reinhart predicted, [[RealityIsOutToLunch the laws of nature have started to go wibbly-wobbly by this point anyway.]] [[/note]] Then they travel through the black hole itself [[GainaxEnding and through the afterlife(?).]]
14th Oct '16 1:09:55 PM dangerdan97
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* ContrivedCoincedence: The meteor storm that hits with almost ''divine'' timing, right as the story begins its climax.

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* ContrivedCoincedence: ContrivedCoincidence: The meteor storm that hits with almost ''divine'' timing, right as the story begins its climax.
14th Oct '16 1:09:35 PM dangerdan97
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* ContrivedCoincedence: The meteor storm that hits with almost ''divine'' timing, right as the story begins its climax.
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