History Film / TheBlackHole

28th Mar '16 8:35:29 AM TheWhistleTropes
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* WhamLine: From Reinhardt after [[spoiler:Maximilian kills Durant:]]
-->'''Hans Reinhardt:''' [[spoiler:Protect me from Maximilian.]]
21st Mar '16 3:43:57 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* IdiotBall: Reinhardt would've avoided so much trouble if he had just remembered to keep [=B.O.B.=] out of reach from the Palomino crew instead of letting it become pals with [=V.I.N.CENT=] and telling it what actually happened to the crew of the ''Cygnus''...no one else on the ship could have told them anything, since they're all robots without speech capability. In the novelization, B.O.B. explains that Reinhardt and Maximillian missed reprogramming him to be obedient, as they did all the other robots on the ship, because he was deactivated [[spoiler: during the mutiny]], and he has survived with his personality intact since then by acting like he had been reprogrammed.



* [[ImmuneToBullets Immune To Frickin Laser Beams]]: Maximillian. [[spoiler: Not to a drill, though.]]

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* [[ImmuneToBullets Immune To Frickin Laser Beams]]: Maximillian.ImmuneToBullets: Maximillian to lasers. [[spoiler: Not to a drill, though.]]



* PlayingGertrude: Maximillian Schell was 48-49 during filming. Reinhardt was probably supposed to be at least ten years older, given that he was not only missing in space for twenty years but was said to be the mission commander. Using the actor's age as a starting point, twenty years ago, he would have been a bit younger than Dan (who was probably only a Captain using the U.S. Army/Airforce ranking system, not Navy); closer to Charlie's age in fact. This is probably why the beard and gray were added to Schell's makeup.



* ShoutOut: [[spoiler: The journey through the black hole is mostly constructed out of a [[TheOner single long multiplane shot]] reminiscent of the ''Ave Maria'' segment of {{Film/Fantasia}}]].



* TooDumbToLive: Dr. Durant ignores some pretty obvious signs that Dr. Reinhardt is not playing with a full deck until it's too late.

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* TooDumbToLive: Dr. Durant ignores some pretty obvious signs that Dr. Reinhardt is not playing with a full deck less than sane until it's too late.



* VillainBall: Dr. Reinhardt's decision [[spoiler: to have the crew of the ''Palomino'' killed after his secret was discovered, rather than let them flee resulted in the destruction of the ''Palomino'', the ''Cygnus'', and, indirectly, Maximilian's destruction]] and Reinhardt's eventual fate. Had Reinhardt told them to go in peace after [[spoiler: Durant unmasked a cloaked "robot"]] they would've had no other choice anyway, leaving the field clear for Reinhardt to pursue his plans; then again, that wouldn't have been enough villainy. In the novelization, it's also due to Reinhardt's own ego and vanity; he's unwilling, even in the face of his greatest expedition, to [[spoiler: allow the ''Palomino'' crew to return to Earth and besmirch his reputation with the truth of what he'd done to the ''Cygnus'' crew]].

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* VillainBall: Dr. Reinhardt's decision [[spoiler: to have the crew of the ''Palomino'' killed after his secret was discovered, rather than let them flee resulted in the destruction of the ''Palomino'', the ''Cygnus'', and, indirectly, Maximilian's destruction]] and Reinhardt's eventual fate. Had Reinhardt told them to go in peace after [[spoiler: Durant unmasked a cloaked "robot"]] they would've had no other choice anyway, leaving the field clear for Reinhardt to pursue his plans; then again, that wouldn't have been enough villainy. In the novelization, it's also due to Reinhardt's own ego and vanity; he's unwilling, even in the face of his greatest expedition, to [[spoiler: allow the ''Palomino'' crew to return to Earth and besmirch blemish his reputation with the truth of what he'd done to the ''Cygnus'' crew]].
15th Feb '16 7:56:58 PM Fighteer
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Pretty much the entire film due to the fact it received a PG rating, something no Disney-branded film had ever received before. The rating was primarily applied due to [[spoiler: the violence of Durant's death and the disturbing depiction of Reinhardt's fate]].
14th Feb '16 3:34:35 PM Prinzenick
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* NightmareFace: The brief glimpse of the "humanoid-robot's" face when Durant removes the reflective faceplate; [[spoiler: although still clearly alive, the crewman's face almost looks like a corpse, and the eyes seem on the verge of hemorrhaging.]]
13th Feb '16 8:06:13 AM Prinzenick
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* OffTheShelfFX; The cartoon google eyes for B.O.B. and [=V.I.N.CENT=], which were hastily glued onto them to compensate for the fact that their original computer screen eyes failed to work on the first day of shooting.
4th Oct '15 11:43:15 AM ThatIsMyJaAm
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An Earth exploratory ship, the ''[=USS=] Palomino'', discovers an impressively massive black hole with a missing Earth ship, the ''[=USS=] Cygnus'' parked just outside its event horizon, somehow defying its gravity. Setting off to solve the mystery of the ''Cygnus'' are: the ''Palomino's'' [[TheCaptain Captian]], Dan Holland (Forster); his First Officer, Lieutenant Charlie Pizer (Bottoms); journalist Harry Booth (Borgnine); [=ESP=]-sensitive scientist Dr. Kate [=McCrae=] (Mimieux); Dr. Alex Durant (Perkins), the expedition's civilian leader; and the robot [=V.I.N.CENT=]("'''V'''ital '''I'''nformation '''N'''ecessary '''CENT'''ralized"). The ''Palomino'' attempts a dangerous fly-by of the ship, which is dark and apparently derelict. As they come within close range of it, the buffeting they experience due to the black hole's gravity suddenly ceases. They complete their fly-by with tantalizing signs that someone may still be aboard, but do not realize the gravity-free zone is artificial and limited; slipping outside it, they are almost drawn into the black hole.

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An Earth exploratory ship, the ''[=USS=] Palomino'', discovers an impressively massive black hole with a missing Earth ship, the ''[=USS=] Cygnus'' parked just outside its event horizon, somehow defying its gravity. Setting off to solve the mystery of the ''Cygnus'' are: the ''Palomino's'' [[TheCaptain Captian]], Captain]], Dan Holland (Forster); his First Officer, Lieutenant Charlie Pizer (Bottoms); journalist Harry Booth (Borgnine); [=ESP=]-sensitive scientist Dr. Kate [=McCrae=] (Mimieux); Dr. Alex Durant (Perkins), the expedition's civilian leader; and the robot [=V.I.N.CENT=]("'''V'''ital '''I'''nformation '''N'''ecessary '''CENT'''ralized"). The ''Palomino'' attempts a dangerous fly-by of the ship, which is dark and apparently derelict. As they come within close range of it, the buffeting they experience due to the black hole's gravity suddenly ceases. They complete their fly-by with tantalizing signs that someone may still be aboard, but do not realize the gravity-free zone is artificial and limited; slipping outside it, they are almost drawn into the black hole.
13th Sep '15 6:21:30 AM toonman
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* TheGreatPoliticsMessUp: Averted by pure accident; when comparing outlines of known deep-space vessels to the ''Cygnus'''s profile, V.I.N.Cent coincidentally calls one "Russian", not "Soviet".

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* TheGreatPoliticsMessUp: Averted by pure accident; when comparing outlines of known deep-space vessels to the ''Cygnus'''s profile, V.I.N.Cent coincidentally calls one "Russian", not "Soviet". Although it was common to use the two names interchangeably during the Cold War, including when referring to spacecraft, the decision to not use Soviet provided a bit of future-proofing here.
13th Sep '15 6:19:00 AM toonman
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Many consider this film to be Disney's biggest flop (which lead to countless jokes about the company's money being tossed into the eponymous hole), and that it represents everything that was wrong with Ron Miller's leadership of the company. In actual fact it made $35m on a budget of $20m, so it did earn a slight profit for the company; nonetheless, not very many people regard the film as one of Disney's finer moments. Indeed, along with one other movie that was released the same year, it was the first ever Disney movie to be given a PG rating; something that ultimately would lead to the creation of Disney's separate non-Disney branded label, Creator/TouchstonePictures in 1984 (with the PG-rated ''Film/{{Splash}}'' as its first release).

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Many consider this film to be Disney's biggest flop (which lead to countless jokes about the company's money being tossed into the eponymous hole), and that it represents everything that was wrong with Ron Miller's leadership of the company. In actual fact it made $35m on a budget of $20m, so it did earn a slight profit for the company; nonetheless, not very many people regard the film as one of Disney's finer moments. Indeed, (However, it is considered a science fiction classic and is often cited alongside ''Film/BladeRunner'' and ''Film/{{Tron}}'' as examples of films that failed upon first release only to be critically reappraised and become cult favorites later on.) On the plus side, along with one other movie that was released the same year, it was the first ever Disney movie to be given a PG rating; something that ultimately would lead to the creation of Disney's separate non-Disney branded label, Creator/TouchstonePictures in 1984 (with the PG-rated ''Film/{{Splash}}'' as its first release).


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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Pretty much the entire film due to the fact it received a PG rating, something no Disney-branded film had ever received before. The rating was primarily applied due to [[spoiler: the violence of Durant's death and the disturbing depiction of Reinhardt's fate]].
18th Aug '15 11:06:09 AM Zeiss
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* DopeSlap: Inverted when Reinhardt ''triple'' slaps his own forehead when rebuking Maximilian for the Sentries' failure against V.I.N.Cent and Old B.O.B.

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* DopeSlap: Inverted when Reinhardt ''triple'' triple slaps his own forehead when rebuking Maximilian for the Sentries' failure against V.I.N.Cent and Old B.O.B.
18th Aug '15 10:52:28 AM Zeiss
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* BadassBoast: "''We are going through,''" [[spoiler: even as the meteor storm plows all around the ''Cygnus'' and is severely damaging the ship]].


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* DopeSlap: Inverted when Reinhardt ''triple'' slaps his own forehead when rebuking Maximilian for the Sentries' failure against V.I.N.Cent and Old B.O.B.


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* PuttingOnTheReich:
** The Sentry robots' stiff gait comes close to resembling a "goose-step" march.
** During dinner Reinhardt wears the red uniform-like outfit along with a fancy medal, and continues wearing them both when taking the ''Cygnus'' towards the black hole.
** Then there's the name, ''Hans Reinhardt'', and even ''Maximillian.''
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