History Film / TheBirthOfANation

28th Apr '16 9:23:55 AM erforce
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** LoveBeforeFirstSight on Ben Cameron's part for Elsie Stoneman, though. Like a proto-[[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Kyle Reese]], he acquires a picture of her from her brother Phil and throughout his military career, he holds on to it and looks at it on a regular basis before he finally meets her.

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** LoveBeforeFirstSight on Ben Cameron's part for Elsie Stoneman, though. Like a proto-[[Franchise/{{Terminator}} proto-[[Film/TheTerminator Kyle Reese]], he acquires a picture of her from her brother Phil and throughout his military career, he holds on to it and looks at it on a regular basis before he finally meets her.
2nd Apr '16 3:41:14 AM JulianLapostat
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Abraham Lincoln who wants a peaceful reunification, the one thing in the film that is more or less accurate.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Abraham Lincoln who wants a peaceful reunification, the one thing in the film that is more or less accurate. This is of course consistent with the Dunning view which managed to be pro-Lincoln and anti-Reconstruction. In actual fact, Lincoln at the time of his death voiced public support for black suffrage, which was the trigger for Booth to murder him.
1st Apr '16 2:07:33 PM JamesAustin
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* MyEyesAreDownHere: Some of the KKK robes have a pair of large circles with crosses in them at chest height.

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* MyEyesAreDownHere: MyEyesAreUpHere: Some of the KKK robes have a pair of large circles with crosses in them at chest height.



* ValuesDissonance: this movie was extreme even for its time.
1st Apr '16 1:58:47 PM JamesAustin
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->''"Classic or not, ''Birth of a Nation'' has long been one of the embarrassments of film scholarship. It can't be ignored ... and yet it was regarded as outrageously racist even at a time when racism was hardly a household word.''"
->-- '''Andrew Sarris'''

->''"Despite Birth's blatant glorification of the KKK and depiction of black Americans as wild animals, this movie still ... nope, we're not finishing that sentence. On one hand, it pioneered concepts like actually moving the cameras and using rapid cuts, and you're probably still seeing its influence in movies today. On the other hand, ''everything else about it.''''"
->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19826_6-iconic-scenes-ripped-off-from-lesser-known-movies_p2.html 6 Iconic Scenes Ripped Off From Lesser Known Movies]]

A 1915 silent movie directed by Creator/DWGriffith, starring famous silent film actress Creator/LillianGish, and one of Hollywood's first great "epic" films. Based on the 1905 novel ''The Clansman'' by Thomas Dixon.

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->''"Classic or not, ''Birth of a Nation'' has long been one of the embarrassments of film scholarship. It can't be ignored ... and yet it was regarded as outrageously racist even at a time when racism was hardly a household word.''"
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'''Andrew Sarris'''

->''"Despite Birth's ''Birth''[='s=] blatant glorification of the KKK and depiction of black Americans as wild animals, this movie still ... nope, we're not finishing that sentence. On one hand, it pioneered concepts like actually moving the cameras and using rapid cuts, and you're probably still seeing its influence in movies today. On the other hand, ''everything else about it.''''"
->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''',
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-->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''',
[[http://www.cracked.com/article_19826_6-iconic-scenes-ripped-off-from-lesser-known-movies_p2.html 6 Iconic Scenes Ripped Off From Lesser Known Movies]]

A ''The Birth of a Nation'' is a 1915 silent movie directed by Creator/DWGriffith, starring famous silent film actress Creator/LillianGish, and one of Hollywood's first great "epic" films. Based on the 1905 novel ''The Clansman'' by Thomas Dixon.
25th Mar '16 5:03:25 PM redandready45
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Abraham Lincoln who wants a peaceful reunification, the one thing in the film that is more or less accurate.
11th Mar '16 4:52:56 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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The plot of '''''The Birth of a Nation''''' is a two-part chronicle of American history. The first part depicts the nation before, during, and after UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, from the perspective of two juxtaposed families - the Northern Stonemans, who are abolitionists and federalists, and the Southern Camerons, who are secessionists. When war breaks out, the houses must send their sons off to their respective opposing armies. The Camerons suffer many hardships in the war torn and depleted South, and must deal with hunger, ransackers, looters, and rapists. Eventually, the Union army crushes the Confederacy, ending the war. President Abraham Lincoln promises to rebuild the South, in spite of protests from vengeful Northern politicians who would execute its leaders and treat the land as conquered territory. But Abraham Lincoln is assassinated at Ford's Theater, allowing the Radical Republicans, led by Austin Stoneman, to gain strength and support for inflicting punitive measures on the South for their rebellion.

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The plot of '''''The ''The Birth of a Nation''''' Nation'' is a two-part chronicle of American history. The first part depicts the nation before, during, and after UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, from the perspective of two juxtaposed families - the Northern Stonemans, who are abolitionists and federalists, and the Southern Camerons, who are secessionists. When war breaks out, the houses must send their sons off to their respective opposing armies. The Camerons suffer many hardships in the war torn and depleted South, and must deal with hunger, ransackers, looters, and rapists. Eventually, the Union army crushes the Confederacy, ending the war. President Abraham Lincoln promises to rebuild the South, in spite of protests from vengeful Northern politicians who would execute its leaders and treat the land as conquered territory. But Abraham Lincoln is assassinated at Ford's Theater, allowing the Radical Republicans, led by Austin Stoneman, to gain strength and support for inflicting punitive measures on the South for their rebellion.
9th Mar '16 12:44:40 PM Temmere
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* AdaptionalHeroism:

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* AdaptionalHeroism: AdaptationalHeroism:
6th Mar '16 12:58:06 AM OldBlindTrope
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: The film's opening doesn't observe that the North was about to let the South go, until the South fired on Fort Sumter; nor does it mention the South selling Northern black prisoners into slavery during the war, or granting no quarter against Northern black troops; and, of course, it presents the Ku Klux Klan as the heroes.

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: The film's opening doesn't observe that Klan; and, indeed, the CSA, which picked a fight when the North was about inclined to let them go peacefully, and which committed war crimes over the South go, until course of the South fired on Fort Sumter; nor does it mention the South selling Northern black prisoners into slavery during the war, or granting war (especially giving no quarter against Northern black troops; and, of course, it presents the Ku Klux Klan as the heroes.US troops, and selling free black POWs into slavery).


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* ValuesDissonance: this movie was extreme even for its time.
6th Mar '16 12:54:20 AM OldBlindTrope
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* AllIsWellThatEndsWell: Though whether it ends well or not depends a lot on your perspective.

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* AllIsWellThatEndsWell: Though whether it ends well or not depends a lot on your perspective.For ''[[ValuesDissonance certain definitions]]'' of "ends well."



* HappinessInSlavery: The real reason why [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Griffith kept insisting his film wasn't racist]] was that he had, [[MindScrew what he called]], positive African-American characters who remained loyal to their families after abolition and during Reconstruction. These include the many Mammy characters, the house servants who are faithful to the families they served before the War and the many African-Americans who state they don't want the right to vote and argue against freedmen who serve in the Union Army and the Freedman's Bureau.
* HistoricalBadassUpgrade: The Klan were not as badass as shown in the film:
** One of the intertitles mentions that the Klan murdered as many people as died in Gettysburg (the single bloodiest battle in American history numbering 46,000 on both sides). In actual fact, the Klan killed nearly 3000 people which is still a lot for a vigilante proto-terrorist outfit. They specialized in back-alley guerilla tactics and assassinations rather than full charges.
** The climactic charge of the Klan against the Union army is a total inversion of reality. The first Klan was shut down when President UsefulNotes/UlyssesSGrant sent in more soldiers to shut them down and enforce reconstruction. The reversal of Reconstruction only began in 1876 upon the election of Grant's successor who removed the Union soldiers in the South and left no protection to the African-American citizens. The Klan was dead by this time.
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: The Ku Klux Klan and the unreconstructed Southern aristocracy are presented as victims of the conquering North rather than treacherous rebels who started the war to defend slavery. Needless to say the film's opening section depicting the Civil War makes no mention of the little matter of "firing on Fort Sumter" or the many war crimes committed by the Confederacy ("No quarter" to African-American servicemen, selling freedman soldiers and Northern blacks back into slavery) during the Civil War.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Needless to say, Thaddeus Stevens and Lydia Hamilton Smith were not the mustache-twirling villains their {{Expy}} are portrayed as. And Thaddeus Stevens was definitely not a corrupt hypocrite as Stoneman ends up becoming. The carpetbaggers and scalawags were not LesCollaborateurs intending to make the South into an Empire either.

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* HappinessInSlavery: The real reason why [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Griffith kept insisting his film wasn't racist]] was that he had, [[MindScrew what he called]], positive African-American characters had "positive" black characters: those who remained loyal to stayed with their families after abolition and former owners during Reconstruction. These include the many Mammy characters, the were mostly house servants and nursemaids, who really did have comfortable lives; but the vast majority of black slaves were field hands, who barely even saw their masters and who lived like, well, slaves.
** There
are faithful to the families they served before the War and the many African-Americans also various free blacks who state say that they don't want the right to vote vote, and who argue against freedmen who serve in join the Union Army and or work for the Freedman's Bureau.
Freedmen's Bureau. There were probably some of these historically, but not exactly a large number.
* HistoricalBadassUpgrade: The Klan were not as badass as shown in the film:
Klan.
** One of the intertitles mentions that the Klan murdered as many people as died in Gettysburg (the single bloodiest battle in American history numbering 46,000 on both sides). In actual fact, the The Klan killed about 3,000 people over the course of its existence. This is quite a lot, but it's not nearly 3000 people which is still a lot as many as Gettysburg (which the movie claims; for a vigilante proto-terrorist outfit. They reference, 46,000 soldiers died there -- 23,055 from the Union, 23,231 from the Confederacy).
** The Klan
specialized in back-alley guerilla tactics and assassinations rather than and low-intensity guerrilla tactics. They took potshots at their enemies, but never launched full charges.
cavalry charges -- and never had sufficient numbers to launch such charges. ({{Literature/GoneWithTheWind}} has a much more realistic depiction of Klan activity -- including the part where the Klansmen are all plantation aristocracy.)
** The climactic charge of film shows the Klan against KKK defeating the Union army is a total inversion of reality. The first Klan was shut down Army; in fact, the Union Army defeated the Klan, when President UsefulNotes/UlyssesSGrant sent in more soldiers to shut them down and enforce reconstruction. The reversal of Reconstruction only began in 1876 upon heavy reinforcements once the Klan started scoring some successes. (Reconstruction ended shortly afterwards, in 1876-77, when Democratic delegates secured the withdrawal of US troops from their territory in exchange for allowing Rutherford B. Hayes' election of Grant's successor who removed the Union soldiers in the South and left no protection as President to the African-American citizens. The Klan was dead by this time.
proceed smoothly.)
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: The Ku Klux Klan and the unreconstructed Southern aristocracy are presented as victims of the conquering North rather than treacherous rebels who started the war to defend slavery. Needless to say the film's opening section depicting doesn't observe that the Civil War makes no North was about to let the South go, until the South fired on Fort Sumter; nor does it mention of the little matter of "firing on Fort Sumter" or the many war crimes committed by the Confederacy ("No quarter" to African-American servicemen, South selling freedman soldiers and Northern blacks back black prisoners into slavery) slavery during the Civil War.
war, or granting no quarter against Northern black troops; and, of course, it presents the Ku Klux Klan as the heroes.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Needless to say, Thaddeus Stevens and Lydia Hamilton Smith were not the mustache-twirling villains their {{Expy}} are portrayed as. And Thaddeus villains; nor was Stevens was definitely not a corrupt hypocrite as Stoneman ends up becoming. The carpetbaggers and scalawags hypocrite; nor were not LesCollaborateurs intending to make the Carpetbaggers and Scalawags intent on transforming the South into an Empire either.a mulatto empire. The worst that can be said of the Carpetbaggers is that they wanted to turn the South into Massachusetts.



* LesCollaborateurs: As part of the Lost Cause myth, carpetbaggers, scalawags and freedmen are presented as this in the eyes of the defeated South.
* LightIsNotGood: Inverted; the KKK are the heroes in the film's climax, though they still come across to modern viewers as pretty rotten.

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* LesCollaborateurs: As part of Carpetbaggers, Scalawags, and freedmen. From the Lost Cause myth, carpetbaggers, scalawags and freedmen are presented as Southern aristocracy's perspective, this in really is what they were, but an outside observer might think of [[LaResistance another trope]].
* LightIsGood: The KKK from
the eyes of the defeated South.
film's perspective.
* LightIsNotGood: Inverted; The KKK from the KKK are the heroes in the film's climax, though they still come across to modern viewer's perspective. (Even, again, viewers as pretty rotten.at the time!)



* WrittenByTheWinners: Inverted; the film was written from the perspective of the ''losing side'' in the Civil War, i.e Southern whites, and it certainly wasn't the most objective view of the Reconstruction Period. Of course, from the perspective of African-American freedmen and former slaves, this trope very much applies since they were the real losers of Reconstruction. In this film, African-American servicemen in the Union Army and officers in the freedman's bureau are painted as bad guys, while the African-Americans who remain loyal to the Old South are shown positively.

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* WrittenByTheWinners: Inverted; the Both inverted and played straight. The film was is written from the perspective of Southern upper class's perspective, and they lost the ''losing side'' in war -- but they won the Civil War, i.e peace, at the expense of Southern blacks (and of poor Southern whites, and it certainly wasn't the most objective view of the Reconstruction Period. Of course, from the perspective of African-American freedmen and former slaves, who don't really figure in this trope very much applies since they were the real losers of Reconstruction. In this film, African-American servicemen in the Union Army and officers in the freedman's bureau are painted as bad guys, while the African-Americans who remain loyal to the Old South are shown positively. film).
26th Jan '16 5:03:43 PM Youtubenut
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