History Film / TheBadAndTheBeautiful

3rd Mar '17 10:01:12 AM JulianLapostat
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* VideoCredits: The end credits show short clips of all major characters along with the actors' names.

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* VideoCredits: The end credits show short clips of all major characters along with the actors' names. Just like ''Citizen Kane''.
16th Feb '17 8:45:45 PM JulianLapostat
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** The English film-maker Henry Whitfield is one for Creator/AlfredHitchcock (complete with a stand-in for his wife Alma Reville), he's played by Leo J. Carroll, an actor who appeared in many Hitchcock movies. The ersatz-emigre director Von Ellstein has a name similar to Creator/ErichVonStroheim and Creator/JosefVonSternberg, but his amiable and professional personality is closer to the likes of Robert Siodmak and Max Ophuls.

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** The English film-maker Henry Whitfield is one for Creator/AlfredHitchcock (complete with a stand-in for his wife Alma Reville), he's played by Leo J. Carroll, an actor who appeared in many Hitchcock movies. The ersatz-emigre director Von Ellstein has a name similar to Creator/ErichVonStroheim and Creator/JosefVonSternberg, but his amiable and professional personality is closer to the likes of Robert Siodmak and Max Ophuls.Creator/MaxOphuls.
3rd Dec '16 4:41:03 PM WJTaylor4
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* EvilMentor: Jonathan Shields could be seen as this, and possibly having shades of a TricksterMentor as well. As horrible as his betrayals were Shields ultimately taught Fred, Georgia and Bartlow important lessons about the value of hard work and being careful who to trust in such a cutthroat industry, lessons that ultimately changed their lives and careers for the better.



* JerkAssHasAPoint: He's not a nice man by any means but Jonathan Shields does make some genuinely valid criticisms throughout the film.

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* JerkAssHasAPoint: He's not a nice man by any means but Jonathan Shields does make some genuinely valid criticisms throughout the film.film, such as how Bartlow's wife hindered his progress.



* VillainMentor: Jonathan Shields could be seen as one of these, and possibly having shades of a TricksterMentor as well. As horrible as his betrayals were Shields ultimately taught Fred, Georgia and Bartlow important lessons about the value of hard work and being careful who to trust in such a cutthroat industry, lessons that ultimately changed their lives and careers for the better.
3rd Dec '16 4:38:31 PM WJTaylor4
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* JerkAssHasAPoint: He's not a nice man by any means but Jonathan Shields does make some genuinely valid criticisms throughout the film.



* ManipulativeBastard: Shields is this to everyone. At the end of the film, it's even justified by Pebbel who points out these manipulations ultimately contributed to a few good films, and some bad ones and didn't adversely affect their careers as much as his ex-collaborators would like to believe.

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* ManipulativeBastard: Shields is this to everyone. At the end of the film, it's even justified by Pebbel who points out these manipulations ultimately contributed to a few good films, and some bad ones and didn't adversely affect their careers as much as his ex-collaborators would like to believe. If anything, Shields' actions probably made Fred, Georgia and Bartlow's lives better.


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* VillainMentor: Jonathan Shields could be seen as one of these, and possibly having shades of a TricksterMentor as well. As horrible as his betrayals were Shields ultimately taught Fred, Georgia and Bartlow important lessons about the value of hard work and being careful who to trust in such a cutthroat industry, lessons that ultimately changed their lives and careers for the better.
11th Nov '16 4:03:21 AM JamesAustin
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Jonathan Shields (Creator/KirkDouglas) used to be a great studio mogul in Hollywood, but his perfectionism has practically bankrupted his studio. He calls three former associates, UsefulNotes/AcademyAward winning director Fred Amiel (Barry Sullivan), blockbuster actress Georgia Lorrison (Lana Turner), and novelist-turned-screenwriter James Lee Bartlow (Dick Powell), to help him with a film that could save his studio.

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Jonathan Shields (Creator/KirkDouglas) used to be a great studio mogul in Hollywood, but his perfectionism has practically bankrupted his studio. He calls three former associates, UsefulNotes/AcademyAward winning director Fred Amiel (Barry Sullivan), blockbuster actress Georgia Lorrison (Lana Turner), (Creator/LanaTurner), and novelist-turned-screenwriter James Lee Bartlow (Dick Powell), to help him with a film that could save his studio.
26th Sep '16 2:34:21 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: The German title of this movie translates to "[[HorribleHollywood City of Illusions]]".
4th Sep '16 2:41:00 AM eroock
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: After the disastrous screening of Shields's movie, he rants about how he's going to shelve the picture because he failed. After he and Bartlow are [[DrowningMySorrows drowning their sorrows]] in his office, Shields sarcastically notes, "I just played my big scene in there, 'the great man fails.'" Which of course is exactly what Kirk Douglas just did.


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* LeaningOnTheFourthWall: After the disastrous screening of Shields's movie, he rants about how he's going to shelve the picture because he failed. After he and Bartlow are [[DrowningMySorrows drowning their sorrows]] in his office, Shields sarcastically notes, "I just played my big scene in there, 'the great man fails.'" Which of course is exactly what Kirk Douglas just did.
17th Jun '16 8:41:30 AM JulianLapostat
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech:[[invoked]] A famous one from von Ellstein to Shields:
--> '''Shields''': You call that directing?\\
'''Von Ellstein''': That is what I've been calling it for thirty-two years.\\
'''Shields''': Why, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot there are values and dimensions in that scene you haven't begun to hit]].\\
'''Von Ellstein''': [[IntendedAudienceReaction Dare say not the values and dimensions I wish to hit]]. I could make this scene a climax. I could make every scene in this picture a climax. If I did, I would be a bad director. And I like to think of myself as one of the best. A picture with all climaxes is like a necklace without a string. It falls apart. You must build to the big moment and sometimes, you must build slowly. You see this picture one way, and I another. [[WagTheDirector It will be done your way]], but [[ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules not by me, and not by any other director who respects himself]]. You know what you must do, Mr. Shields, so that you'll have it exactly as you want it? You must direct this picture yourself. To direct a picture, a man needs humility. Do you have humility, Mr. Shields?
17th Jun '16 1:18:57 AM Aquila89
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* AmbiguousEnding: The three main characters reject Shields's offer, but when eavesdropping on a call between Shields and Pebbel they seem to show some interest, but the film ends before we know if they change their minds.

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* AmbiguousEnding: The three main characters reject Shields's offer, but when eavesdropping on a call between Shields and Pebbel they seem to show some interest, but the interest. The film ends before we know if they change their minds.
12th Jun '16 9:45:00 PM gallium
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: After the disastrous screening of Shields's movie, he rants about how he's going to shelve the picture because he failed. After he and Bartlow are [[DrowningMySorrows drowning their sorrows]] in his office, Shields sarcastically notes, "I just played my big scene in there, 'the great man fails.'" Which of course is exactly what Kirk Douglas just did.


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* TheMagicPokerEquation: Discussed and lampshaded. Another player at the poker table tells Harry, "Now I've got a full house. You can't have four of a kind. That could never happen, not even in one of your B-pictures." He's disgusted when Harry reveals he actually does have four of a kind.


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* MustacheVandalism: When the trio arrives at the Shields lot, Georgia draws a goofy mustache on the logo at the front gate. It's later revealed to be a CallBack to when Shields drew a mustache on a picture of her father in an effort to snap her out of her grief and self-pity.
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