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* TheWorfEffect: The T-600 models are subject to this. While they are certainly extremely deadly, they seem to take far less punishment than the original film version did, which was stabbed, shot by heavy gunfire and blown up without any real damage except to its cover, at least until they put a bomb literally in-between its joints to blow it in half. [[spoiler:Then the ''original'' T-800 model shows up, and it takes a tremendous amount of damage before dying, shrugging multiple grenade launcher blasts to the body without even slowing down, tossing around Marcus with very little effort, getting molten lead dumped on him (which ''killed'' the T-1000) and getting frozen in it, and it ''still'' doesn't die before seriously wounding John Connor.]]
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* TheWorfEffect: The T-600 models are subject to this. While they are certainly extremely deadly, they seem to take far less punishment than the T-800 in the original film version did, which was stabbed, shot by heavy gunfire and blown up without any real damage except to its cover, at least until they put a bomb literally in-between its joints to blow it in half. [[spoiler:Then the ''original'' T-800 model shows up, and it takes a tremendous amount of damage before dying, shrugging multiple grenade launcher blasts to the body without even slowing down, tossing around Marcus with very little effort, getting molten lead dumped on him (which ''killed'' the T-1000) and getting frozen in it, and it ''still'' doesn't die before seriously wounding John Connor.]]
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There is in fact a clear reference to T3 here. In T3, the Terminator tells John that he and Kate Brewster will have children in the future, who will become important. In Salvation, we see Kate pregnant with their first child. And more generally, the fact that Judgment Day happens in T3, while this film takes place After The End. The references to T2 are more vague, but all in all, Salvation is still following up on the same story from the first three films. It wasn't until the next film, Genisys, where the franchise truly began to fall into Unreboot territory.
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The film takes place in a dystopian future during the war with the AI machines and shares no ties to ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''; while it references both ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' and ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'', it keeps those references vague ([[Film/TheTerminator the first film]] holds more importance to ''Salvation's'' central themes than the other two films). ''Salvation'' is also the only ''Terminator'' film so far to forgo the idea of time travel in favor of a [[GenreShift post-apocalyptic war]] slant on the story.
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The film takes place in a dystopian future during the war with the AI machines machines, and while it does continue the story from the first three films, it shares no ties to ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''; while it references both ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' and ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'', it keeps those references vague ([[Film/TheTerminator the first film]] holds more importance to ''Salvation's'' central themes than the other two films).''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''. ''Salvation'' is also the only ''Terminator'' film so far to forgo the idea of time travel in favor of a [[GenreShift post-apocalyptic war]] slant on the story.
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The film takes place during the war with the machines and shares no ties to ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''; while it references both ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' and ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'', it keeps those references vague ([[Film/TheTerminator the first film]] holds more importance to ''Salvation's'' central themes than the other two films). ''Salvation'' is also the only ''Terminator'' film so far to forgo the idea of time travel in favor of a [[GenreShift post-apocalyptic war]] slant on the story.
While John Connor has become a highly respected officer within the human resistance movement, he has not yet risen to the role of leader, as several prominent faction leaders question the claims that he will become [[TheChosenOne the savior of mankind]]. John sets out to end the war as fast as possible (and locate a young Kyle Reese), but his quest reveals an awful truth: the StableTimeLoop has begun to break apart. [=SkyNet=]'s forces have shown sophistication and progress far ahead of schedule, and numerous other changes Connor never accounted for have thrown humanity's inevitable victory into question. One of these anomalies comes in the form of Marcus Wright, a criminal who reportedly died before the war began, but turned up on his own in the present. Wright's role in the movie works as an inverse of the series' central time-travel mechanic: rather than entering the past from the future, he comes from the past into the future.
While John Connor has become a highly respected officer within the human resistance movement, he has not yet risen to the role of leader, as several prominent faction leaders question the claims that he will become [[TheChosenOne the savior of mankind]]. John sets out to end the war as fast as possible (and locate a young Kyle Reese), but his quest reveals an awful truth: the StableTimeLoop has begun to break apart. [=SkyNet=]'s forces have shown sophistication and progress far ahead of schedule, and numerous other changes Connor never accounted for have thrown humanity's inevitable victory into question. One of these anomalies comes in the form of Marcus Wright, a criminal who reportedly died before the war began, but turned up on his own in the present. Wright's role in the movie works as an inverse of the series' central time-travel mechanic: rather than entering the past from the future, he comes from the past into the future.
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The film takes place in a dystopian future during the war with the AI machines and shares no ties to ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''; while it references both ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' and ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'', it keeps those references vague ([[Film/TheTerminator the first film]] holds more importance to ''Salvation's'' central themes than the other two films). ''Salvation'' is also the only ''Terminator'' film so far to forgo the idea of time travel in favor of a [[GenreShift post-apocalyptic war]] slant on the story.
While JohnConnor Connor, Sarah Connor's son, has become a highly respected officer within the human resistance movement, he has not yet risen to the role of leader, as several prominent faction leaders question the claims that he will become [[TheChosenOne the savior of mankind]]. John sets out to end the war as fast as possible (and locate a young Kyle Reese), but his quest reveals an awful truth: the StableTimeLoop has begun to break apart. [=SkyNet=]'s forces have shown sophistication and progress far ahead of schedule, and numerous other changes Connor never accounted for have thrown humanity's inevitable victory into question. One of these anomalies comes in the form of Marcus Wright, a criminal who reportedly died before the war began, but turned up on his own in the present. Wright's role in the movie works as an inverse of the series' central time-travel mechanic: rather than entering the past from the future, he comes from the past into the future.
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* ActionizedSequel: Much more so than the previous two films, as the film takes place in the middle of war.
* AmbiguousSituation: Marcus just stands watching while Kyle and Star engulf the food presented by the gas station dwellers, leading to an interrogation from their matriarch. In the novelization, Marcus's reaction is the logic wonder of someone who hasn't seen altruism in a long time, but as the film doesn't show his inner thoughts, [[spoiler:we are led to think that he cannot feel hunger, which foreshadows his nature as a Terminator.]]
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a small air force and a nuclear submarine, but it is unclear how they find the supplies to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
* ArrowCam: The first thing the audience sees after the introduction credits is a cruise missile [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT9k7mGze4I on its merry way]] to Skynet's Research and Development Facility.
* ArtificialStupidity: The T-600 that chases Kyle and Marcus in the devastated city of Los Angeles, instead of shooting the pulley that is supporting the rope that pulled it up in a classic trap, shoots off its foot to keep chasing them.
* AmbiguousSituation: Marcus just stands watching while Kyle and Star engulf the food presented by the gas station dwellers, leading to an interrogation from their matriarch. In the novelization, Marcus's reaction is the logic wonder of someone who hasn't seen altruism in a long time, but as the film doesn't show his inner thoughts, [[spoiler:we are led to think that he cannot feel hunger, which foreshadows his nature as a Terminator.]]
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a small air force and a nuclear submarine, but it is unclear how they find the supplies to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
* ArrowCam: The first thing the audience sees after the introduction credits is a cruise missile [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT9k7mGze4I on its merry way]] to Skynet's Research and Development Facility.
* ArtificialStupidity: The T-600 that chases Kyle and Marcus in the devastated city of Los Angeles, instead of shooting the pulley that is supporting the rope that pulled it up in a classic trap, shoots off its foot to keep chasing them.
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* ActionizedSequel: Much more so than the previous two films, as the film takes place in the middle of war.
war between the resistance and the AI machine forces (robots and AI flying ships and other vehicles).
* AmbiguousSituation: Marcus just stands watching while Kyle and Starengulf gulp the food presented by the gas station dwellers, squatters, leading to an interrogation from their matriarch. In the novelization, Marcus's reaction is the logic wonder of someone who hasn't seen altruism in a long time, but as the film doesn't show his inner thoughts, [[spoiler:we are led to think that he cannot feel hunger, which foreshadows his nature as a Terminator.]]
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a small air force of A-10 ground attack planes and a nuclear submarine, but it is unclear how they find the supplies and fuel to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
* ArrowCam: The first thing the audience sees after the introduction credits is a cruisemissile missile's POV cam [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT9k7mGze4I on its merry way]] to Skynet's heavily-defended Research and Development Facility.
* ArtificialStupidity: The T-600 that chases Kyle and Marcus in the devastated city of Los Angeles,instead is led into a trap by the duo that snares his foot on a pulley and pulls him in the air. Instead of shooting the pulley that is supporting the rope cable that pulled it up in a classic trap, up, it shoots off its foot to escape and keep chasing them.
* AmbiguousSituation: Marcus just stands watching while Kyle and Star
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a small air force of A-10 ground attack planes and a nuclear submarine, but it is unclear how they find the supplies and fuel to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
* ArrowCam: The first thing the audience sees after the introduction credits is a cruise
* ArtificialStupidity: The T-600 that chases Kyle and Marcus in the devastated city of Los Angeles,
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* BehindTheBlack: At the gas station, the first sign of the Harvester's presence is it busting through the roof, despite the fact it's not only incredibly noisy but also big enough that it should've shaken the whole building when it dropped out of the hunter-killer.
* BehindTheBlack: At the gas station, the first sign of the Harvester's presence is it busting through the roof, despite the fact it's not only incredibly noisy but also big enough that it should've shaken the whole building when it dropped out of the hunter-killer.
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clothing, paired with the standard companion weapon of a badass longcoat-wearer: the pump shotgun.
* BehindTheBlack: At the gas station, the first sign of the huge Harvester's mecha-robot presence is it busting through the roof, despite the fact it's not only incredibly noisy but also big enough that it should've shaken the whole building when it dropped out of thehunter-killer.hunter-killer flying ship.
* BehindTheBlack: At the gas station, the first sign of the huge Harvester's mecha-robot presence is it busting through the roof, despite the fact it's not only incredibly noisy but also big enough that it should've shaken the whole building when it dropped out of the
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* BulletTime: Used, but not by the heroes. Turns out one of the reasons the moto-terminators are so deadly is that they can [[SuperReflexes predict the movement of obstacles at high speeds]].
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* BulletTime: Used, but not by the heroes. Turns out one of the reasons the moto-terminators AI autinomous motorcycles (moto-terminators) are so deadly is that they their AI can [[SuperReflexes predict the movement of obstacles at high speeds]].
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* CentralTheme: Getting a second chance, and whether people can overcome their pasts.
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* CentralTheme: Getting a second chance, and whether people can overcome their pasts.DarkAndTroubledPast.
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** The roads are patrolled by Moto-Terminators, HK Tanks, and other metal bastards.
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** At any given moment of the day, a Harvester could detect you hiding and proceed to wreck your hideout to snatch you and others up for transportation to a Skynet Death Camp.
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** At any given moment of the day, a Harvester could detect you hiding and proceed to wreck your hideout to snatch you and others up for transportation to a Skynet Death Camp.Camp or research facility.
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* SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil: Marcus, Kyle Reese, and Star are in the base of some non-Resistance humans. The base is being approached by a completely silent machine hunting squad consisting of a prisoner carrier, a Hunter-Killer, and a HUGE Terminator. Only seconds before they attack does Star sense their presence; the sound the Terminator makes can be heard milliseconds before he strikes.
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** The loud drones from the Harvester and that the Harvester snatches and stores humans references the 2005 film adaptation of ''Film/WarOfTheWorlds''.
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** The loud drones from the Harvester and that the Harvester snatches and stores humans references the 2005 film adaptation of ''Film/WarOfTheWorlds''.''Film/WarOfTheWorlds2005''.
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Just someone explaining why this isn't realistic.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: John Connor doesn't get to be leader of the entire human resistance by declaring he's TheChosenOne.
-->'''Joseph [=McGinty=]:''' You survived the nuclear holocaust and you crawl out of the hole after three-to-five years and say, "Well, I know what's going on -- I'm the one!" Some SAS guy isn't going to say, "Where do I go, boss?" He'd say, "Shut the fuck up and get in line."
-->'''Joseph [=McGinty=]:''' You survived the nuclear holocaust and you crawl out of the hole after three-to-five years and say, "Well, I know what's going on -- I'm the one!" Some SAS guy isn't going to say, "Where do I go, boss?" He'd say, "Shut the fuck up and get in line."
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* KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter: Regular firearms are used over energy weapons, although it is set years before the other future scenes seen in the other movies, so perhaps handheld energy weapons haven't been invented yet. The giant robot though seems to have an energy weapon of some sort.
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* KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter: Regular firearms are used over energy weapons, although it is set still dominate the battlefield, with the iconic purple-blue pew-pew plasma weapons still years before the other future scenes seen in the other movies, so perhaps handheld energy movies. Resistance fighters need to make do with conventional weapons haven't been invented yet. The in use by militaries such as the [=M4A1=], while [=SkyNet=] gives a giant robot though seems minigun to have an energy weapon its T-600s.
** Nevertheless, [=SkyNet=] vehicles such as the Harvesters, Hunter-Killers, and moto-terminators mount a primitive early plasma cannon, firing a lightning-bolt ofsome sort.yellow-white electricity reminiscent of the [[Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines T-X's plasma cannon arm]] rather than the clean bolts of the later designs.
** Nevertheless, [=SkyNet=] vehicles such as the Harvesters, Hunter-Killers, and moto-terminators mount a primitive early plasma cannon, firing a lightning-bolt of
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* TheAtoner: In ''T4'', Marcus has a lot of [[RedemptionEqualsDeath baggage to work out]].
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* TheAtoner: In ''T4'', Marcus has a lot of [[RedemptionEqualsDeath baggage to work out]].
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* MythologyGag: ''T4'' has this in spades also.
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* MythologyGag: ''T4'' has this in spades also.MythologyGag:
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** Marcus teaches Reese the tying-the-sawn-off-shotgun-to-your-arm trick in ''T4'', which he uses in the first film. ChekhovsGun in reverse?[[note]]Yelchin, Chekhov, AccidentalPun[[/note]]
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** Marcus teaches Reese the tying-the-sawn-off-shotgun-to-your-arm trick in ''T4'', trick, which he uses used in the first film. ChekhovsGun in reverse?[[note]]Yelchin, Chekhov, AccidentalPun[[/note]]
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** In ''T4'', Kyle and Marcus are in a large truck being chased by a motorcycle Terminator, which crashes down on them from an overpass. This is of course the inverse of the iconic scene from ''T2'', when John and the T-101 are on a motorcycle being chased by a large truck, which crashes down on them from an overpass.
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** In ''T4'', Kyle and Marcus are in a large truck being chased by a motorcycle Terminator, which crashes down on them from an overpass. This is of course the inverse of the iconic scene from ''T2'', when John and the T-101 T-800 are on a motorcycle being chased by a large truck, which crashes down on them from an overpass.
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** The final wounds John Connor receives in ''T4'', a set of [[FacialMarkings facial lacerations]] from the T-800's superheated endoskeleton "claws", mirrors [[ScarsAreForever the scars]] seen on the face of the Future John Connor in beginning of ''T2''. The scene might also be a recalling of the last-ditch face-grab the original T-800 performed before being terminated in ''T1''.
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** The final wounds John Connor receives in ''T4'', receives, a set of [[FacialMarkings facial lacerations]] from the T-800's superheated endoskeleton "claws", mirrors [[ScarsAreForever the scars]] seen on the face of the Future John Connor in beginning of ''T2''. The scene might also be a recalling of the last-ditch face-grab the original T-800 performed before being terminated in ''T1''.
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* XanatosGambit: [[spoiler:[=SkyNet=]'s plan in ''T4'' to destroy the Resistance by giving it a false shutdown signal for its machines]]. The preferable goal is for the group to use the information but if they don't their situation will get worse.
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* XanatosGambit: [[spoiler:[=SkyNet=]'s plan in ''T4'' to destroy the Resistance by giving it a false shutdown signal for its machines]]. The preferable goal is for the group to use the information but if they don't their situation will get worse.
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* DownerEnding: ''Would'' have happened if the original ending had been kept. [[spoiler:John actually dies from his injuries in the Skynet base, but the Resistance skins him and puts it on Marcus's body so that the Resistance won't lose hope. In ''another'' ending Marcus proceeds to kill off Kate, Kyle, and Star, having been under Skynet's control the whole time.]] Since it didn't, it's bittersweet instead: [[spoiler:Marcus dies when he gives his heart in order to save John.]]
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* DownerEnding: ''Would'' have happened if the original ending had been kept. [[spoiler:John actually dies from his injuries in the Skynet base, but the Resistance skins him and puts it on Marcus's Marcus' body so that the Resistance won't lose hope. In ''another'' ending Marcus proceeds to kill off Kate, Kyle, and Star, having been under Skynet's control the whole time.]] Since it didn't, it's bittersweet instead: [[spoiler:Marcus dies when he gives his heart in order to save John.]]
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* AmbiguousSituation: Marcus just stands watching while Kyle and Star engulf the food presented by the gas station dwellers, leading to an interrogant from their matriarch. In the novelization, Marcus's reaction is the logic wonder of someone who hasn't seen altruism in a long time, but as the film doesn't show his inner thoughts, [[spoiler:we are led to think that he cannot feel hunger, which foreshadows his nature as a Terminator.]]
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a small airforce and a Nuclear submarine, but its unclear how they find the supplies to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a small airforce and a Nuclear submarine, but its unclear how they find the supplies to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
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* AmbiguousSituation: Marcus just stands watching while Kyle and Star engulf the food presented by the gas station dwellers, leading to an interrogant interrogation from their matriarch. In the novelization, Marcus's reaction is the logic wonder of someone who hasn't seen altruism in a long time, but as the film doesn't show his inner thoughts, [[spoiler:we are led to think that he cannot feel hunger, which foreshadows his nature as a Terminator.]]
* ApocalypticLogistics: The Resistance operates a smallairforce air force and a Nuclear nuclear submarine, but its it is unclear how they find the supplies to keep any of those in service in a world controlled by Skynet a good decade after a nuclear apocalypse.
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** Lakes, rivers and oceans are filled with nasty swarms of Hydrobots and other Skynet nasties.
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** Lakes, rivers rivers, and oceans are filled with nasty swarms of Hydrobots and other Skynet nasties.
** The roads are patrolled by Moto-Terminators, HKTanks Tanks, and other metal bastards.
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* DownerEnding: ''Would'' have happened if the original ending had been kept. [[spoiler:John actually dies from his injuries in the Skynet base, but the Resistance skins him and puts it on Marcus's body so that the Resistance won't lose hope. In ''another'' ending Marcus proceeds to kill off Kate, Kyle and Star, having been under Skynet's control the whole time.]] Since it didn't, it's bittersweet instead: [[spoiler:Marcus dies when he gives his heart in order to save John.]]
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* DownerEnding: ''Would'' have happened if the original ending had been kept. [[spoiler:John actually dies from his injuries in the Skynet base, but the Resistance skins him and puts it on Marcus's body so that the Resistance won't lose hope. In ''another'' ending Marcus proceeds to kill off Kate, Kyle Kyle, and Star, having been under Skynet's control the whole time.]] Since it didn't, it's bittersweet instead: [[spoiler:Marcus dies when he gives his heart in order to save John.]]
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* InterfaceWithAFamiliarFace: Skynet manifests itself to Marcus with the face and voice of Dr. Serena Kogan, the scientist who freezed Marcus before he woke up in the future. When Marcus is confused by this, Skynet offers to switch its appearance to several other human faces.
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* InterfaceWithAFamiliarFace: Skynet manifests itself to Marcus with the face and voice of Dr. Serena Kogan, the scientist who freezed froze Marcus before he woke up in the future. When Marcus is confused by this, Skynet offers to switch its appearance to several other human faces.
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* TheRemnant: Ashdown and Losenko started out as this, as covered more detailedly in the tie-in novels, before joining together and becoming a more effective force.
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* TheRemnant: Ashdown and Losenko started out as this, as covered in more detailedly detail in the tie-in novels, before joining together and becoming a more effective force.
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*** The sky and sunlight has a washed-out silvery look to it, because there's not much of an ozone left after the bombs went off to filter out dangerous levels of UV. It's why a lot of people also are seen wearing sunglasses or goggles.
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** Near immediately after, Marcus is dragged into the base and examined. He's then taken prisoner for some reason, before John reveals to Marcus and the audience that [[spoiler: he himself is in fact a Terminator]].
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** Near immediately after, Marcus is dragged into the base and examined. He's then taken prisoner for some reason, before John reveals to Marcus and the audience that [[spoiler: he himself Marcus is in fact a Terminator]].
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* RapunzelHair: The female fighters in ''T4'' all have long wild hair, despite its impracticality. If they can't have a crew-cut for {{fanservice}} reasons, would BraidsOfAction be all that terrible?
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** When John is on the ground fighting a T-600, he pulls out his .45 caliber sidearm and shoots it in the head at point-blank range. This is more likely to kill John himself via ricochet than actually destroy the T-600, and John of all people should know this.
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%%* TimeyWimeyBall: ... Yes. Especially when taking ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' into account.
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* TimeyWimeyBall: Thanks to the time travel of the previous movies, things aren't happening as originally told to Sarah Connor, and [=SkyNet=] in particular seems to have knowledge of the future.
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* CentralTheme: Getting a second chance.
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* CentralTheme: Getting a second chance.chance, and whether people can overcome their pasts.
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Skynet seems to be genuinely, totally unaware that [[spoiler: Marcus]] is neither able nor willing to shuck off all the emotional connections [[spoiler: he]] just spent the whole movie forming and cheerfully join the evil robot party.
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* IdiotBall: Ashdown, for sending the "shutdown signal" beacon ''directly from Resistance HQ''. (And the movie, for forgetting that radio doesn't work underwater; a high-powered RF signal like that depicted in the film's climax doesn't travel through water, but rather ''boils'' it, which is also how your microwave oven works.)
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** Inexplicably, Blair puts down her gun and walks away from it while en route to the resistance base, which leaves her unarmed when bandits pop out of the scenery.
** Ashdown, for sending the "shutdown signal" beacon ''directly from Resistance HQ''. (And the movie, for forgetting that radio doesn't work underwater; a high-powered RF signal like that depicted in the film's climax doesn't travel through water, but rather ''boils'' it, which is also how your microwave oven works.)
** Inexplicably, Blair puts down her gun and walks away from it while en route to the resistance base, which leaves her unarmed when bandits pop out of the scenery.
** Ashdown, for sending the "shutdown signal" beacon ''directly from Resistance HQ''. (And the movie, for forgetting that radio doesn't work underwater; a high-powered RF signal like that depicted in the film's climax doesn't travel through water, but rather ''boils'' it, which is also how your microwave oven works.)
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* MadeOfIron: Played with as part of the RoboticReveal. Marcus is seen doing a number of crazy things that wouldn't be out of place in other action movies (falling from a flying transport and skipping off the surface of the lake with no harm), but here felt too superhuman. Instead it was intentional as foreshadowing the fact he is a cyborg.
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* MadeOfIron: Played with as part of the RoboticReveal. Marcus is [[spoiler: Marcus]]is seen doing a number of crazy things that wouldn't be out of place in other action movies (falling from a flying transport and skipping off the surface of the lake with no harm), but here felt too superhuman. Instead it was intentional as foreshadowing the fact he is a cyborg. Played straight with John Connor, however, who gets thrown into multiple heavy metal objects and walls by a T-800 with only mild injury.
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* OpenHeartDentistry: Kate Brewster was formally trained as a veternarian. She was promoted to doctor after Judgment Day and it couldn't have been by attending medical school. [[AllThereInTheManual The novels and various other materials state that Kate learned how to perform various medical procedures from various different doctors that took shelter with the Resistance, and joined up]].
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* OpenHeartDentistry: Kate Brewster was formally trained as a veternarian.veterinarian. She was promoted to doctor after Judgment Day and it couldn't have been by attending medical school. [[AllThereInTheManual The novels and various other materials state that Kate learned how to perform various medical procedures from various different doctors that took shelter with the Resistance, and joined up]].
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