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* BullyingADragon: When the police shoot T-850 while he was carrying a coffin, it wasn't long until he retaliated and shot back at them, resulting in veichle explosions.
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* RoboCam: Still red for the T-850, blue and more modern for the T-X. And just like the original had Apple II code, this time there's Usefulnotes/MacOS commands, including "Quicktime Player".
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-->''"All I knew was what the Terminator taught me. Never stop fighting. And I never will."''
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-->''"All I knew was what the Terminator taught me. Never stop fighting. And I never will."'' [[TheWarHasJustBegun The battle has just begun.]]"''
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* AbnormalLimbRotationRange: The [[RobotGirl T-X]] can rotate her head, arms and legs 360 degrees. The torso is capable of at least 180-degree rotation, thanks to artificial liquid steel lubrication. Justified because she is a highly advanced Terminator robot whose joints are movable in ways that are impossible for the older endoskeleton-based Terminators.
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** ''Film/TerminatorDarkFate'' once again disregards this continuity and goes in its own direction.
* ApocalypseWow: The nuclear holocaust that Skynet unleashes in the end. It was only a feared possibility in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' (and displayed inside Sarah's dream), but it happens for real this time.
* ATeamFiring: "Bullets fired: 999. Human casualties: 0." Echoing a scene in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'', where John orders the Terminator to not kill anyone. Which leads to a scene where the Terminator fights off a small army of police with a ''[[GatlingGood Minigun]]'', firing thousands of rounds and killing no one. The Terminator could have easily killed quite a few people, but he deliberately aimed to miss.
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* BittersweetEnding: With heavy emphasis on the bitter. [[spoiler:The film heavily implies that YouCantFightFate, overriding the more hopeful tone of the previous film, with John and Kate realizing they are powerless to stop Skynet's nuclear assault on humanity. It's also heavily implied that John will be unable to avert his fate of dying at the hands of the T-850 in the future. While the T-X fails in its primary objective to kill John, it does successfully kill off several of his lieutenants in their youth, making the future war more difficult. If there is any hope, it's that Skynet can't fight fate either: it can't fundamentally alter the timeline and is still destined to be defeated by John Connor.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: With heavy emphasis on the bitter. [[spoiler:The film heavily implies that YouCantFightFate, overriding the more hopeful tone of the previous film, BlobMonster: The T-X has a {{Super Tough|ness}} robotic skeleton with John and Kate realizing they are powerless to stop Skynet's nuclear assault on humanity. It's also heavily implied that John will be unable to avert his fate of dying at the hands of the T-850 in the future. While the T-X fails in its primary objective to kill John, it does successfully kill off several of his lieutenants in their youth, making the future war more difficult. If there is any hope, it's that Skynet a Blobby cover; although she can't fight fate either: it can't fundamentally [[VoluntaryShapeshifting alter her shape]] as freely as the timeline and is still destined completely liquid metal T-1000, she can also mimic any human she touches.
* BootstrappedLeitmotif: Interestingly, it wasn't until the this very film (which headed by an entirely different production crew from that of the first two movies) that the "Dum-Dum-Dut-Dum-Dum" leitmotif was attached tobe defeated by John Connor.]]the Arnold-portrayed Terminator, but it has remained that way ever since for the movie franchise.
* BootstrappedLeitmotif: Interestingly, it wasn't until the this very film (which headed by an entirely different production crew from that of the first two movies) that the "Dum-Dum-Dut-Dum-Dum" leitmotif was attached to
* BulletCatch: T-850 gets shot in the head, but there's no visible wound. He moves his jaws around a bit, spits out the bullet and tells the shooter "Don't do that." From the looks of it, he was shot in the mouth (although why it didn't tear his lip is a mystery) and the bullet was stopped by the metal of his spine. Presumably it would have ricocheted off his teeth.
* CampingACrapper: The T-X and the T-850 destroy a row of toilet cubicles in the midst of one of their fights.
* CampingACrapper: The T-X and the T-850 destroy a row of toilet cubicles in the midst of one of their fights.
* CantTakeAnythingWithYou: Unlike her predecessors, the T-X actually averts this trope, as she has an energy weapon built under her liquid metal exterior.
* CataclysmClimax: The massive nuclear launch at the end of the film [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt effectively ends human civilization]].
* ConstructionVehicleRampage: TheHeavy Terminatrix hacks several police vehicles in order to assist her during her attempted termination of John Connor, while she herself barrels through the streets driving a heavy crane to pursue him.
* DoppelgangerGetsSameSentiment: John Connor clearly associates the T-850 with "Uncle Bob" and gets disturbed when he isn't able to get as close a bond as he did with "Uncle Bob". The T-850 tells him his emotional attachment was the reason why [[spoiler:the T-850 was able to kill his future self.]]
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* {{Dropped a Bridge on H|im}}er: Sarah's off-screen death by leukemia is often seen as a mean-spirited TakeThat to Creator/LindaHamilton for refusing to reprise her role as Sarah; according to most works published prior, Sarah was supposed to die ''on'' Judgment Day, ''exactly'' as she saw in the "nuclear nightmare" sequence.
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* {{Dropped a Bridge on H|im}}er: DroppedABridgeOnHim: Sarah's off-screen death by leukemia is often seen as a mean-spirited TakeThat to Creator/LindaHamilton for refusing to reprise her role as Sarah; according to most works published prior, Sarah was supposed to die ''on'' Judgment Day, ''exactly'' as she saw in the "nuclear nightmare" sequence.
* EmergencyStash: Sarah Connor stashes a buttload of weapons in what is marked as her coffin. It comes in handy when her son is attacked by killer robots again, though she's also preparing for TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt when Skynet takes over.
* ExorcistHead: the T-X's head does a 360 spin after the T-800 hits her full-on with a fire extinguisher. Her response is a QuizzicalTilt. In fact, the T-X can also rotate her arms, torso, and legs a full 360 degrees thanks to artificial liquid steel lubrication in her actuators, something that even older Terminator units can't do. Being a highly advanced Terminator robot, her chassis is capable of AbnormalLimbRotationRange.
* EyeLightsOut: The T-850's blink off at the very end of the movie following his HeroicSacrifice to save John and Kate, and as the nukes fly and Judgment Day begins.
* FingerTwitchingRevival: The T-X's fingers twitch just after being rammed head-on by the T-850's pickup. In this case, it shows just how tough the new Terminator model is.
* FutureCopter: The movie features small, autonomous prototypes which pursue the heroes.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: It explicitly happens when the T-X uses nanomachines to take control of electronic devices and primitive robots.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: It explicitly happens when the T-X uses nanomachines to take control of electronic devices and primitive robots.
* GunPorn: Sarah Connor's coffin is filled primarily with loads and loads of weapons. There's also the whole scene where the T-800 destroys dozens of cop cars with a minigun.
* HackYourEnemy: In this timeline, the future John Connor was actually killed by a T-850 model after Skynet's presumed defeat. John's widow Kathryn Brewster then reprogrammed it and sent it back in time to save a 20s-something John from another attack by an even more advanced Terminator model.
* HackYourEnemy: In this timeline, the future John Connor was actually killed by a T-850 model after Skynet's presumed defeat. John's widow Kathryn Brewster then reprogrammed it and sent it back in time to save a 20s-something John from another attack by an even more advanced Terminator model.
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* ICannotSelfTerminate: Played with. [[spoiler: The T-850 commits MurderSuicide with the T-X in order to save John and Kate. It’s possible his reprogramming made him ThreeLawsCompliant, and [[FridgeLogic saving John and Kate allowed him to override this command]].]]
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* ICannotSelfTerminate: HyperAwareness: The T-850 Terminator reveals that he has basic knowledge of human physiology and is able to [[LivingLieDetector deduce whether or not a human is lying or otherwise being deceitful]].
* ICannotSelfTerminate:
** Played with.[[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The T-850 commits MurderSuicide with the T-X in order to save John and Kate. It’s possible his reprogramming made him ThreeLawsCompliant, and [[FridgeLogic saving John and Kate allowed him to override this command]].command.]]
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* InSpiteOfANail: The movie shows us that, no matter what, Judgment Day will still transpire circa the TurnOfTheMillennium. In fact, the climax of ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' made things ''worse'', since the new version of Skynet designed in ''T3'' wasn't a [[MasterComputer supercomputer]], but software which was able to infiltrate the Internet, which is decentralized and much harder to destroy.
* IntrinsicVow: This exchange takes place when, under the influence of the T-X's reprogramming, the T-800 is holding John Connor down, ready to kill him.
-->'''John:''' What is your mission?
-->'''T-800:''' To ensure the survival of John Connor and Katherine Brewster.
-->'''John:''' You... are about to ''fail'' that mission.
-->'''John:''' What is your mission?
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* TheKetchupTest: This is how the T-X can determine the identity of her victims if there is ever any doubt. (DNA scanners in her tongue. Who'd have thought it?)
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* TheKetchupTest: This is how the T-X can determine the identity of her victims if there is ever any doubt. (DNA scanners in doubt.
* KeyUnderTheDoormat: The scene from the second film receives a CallBack. When the T-850 steals a car, he looks above the sun visor, but only finds a watch, so he hotwires it.
* KillAndReplace: The T-X does this to Kate's fiancé Scott Mason. When she brings up that the T-X took his form, the T-850 immediately tells hertongue. Who'd have thought it?)that Scott is dead.
* KeyUnderTheDoormat: The scene from the second film receives a CallBack. When the T-850 steals a car, he looks above the sun visor, but only finds a watch, so he hotwires it.
* KillAndReplace: The T-X does this to Kate's fiancé Scott Mason. When she brings up that the T-X took his form, the T-850 immediately tells her
* KungShui: Between the two time-traveling robots of death, property damage essentially ranges in the ''quadrillions'' of dollars, total nuclear annihilation notwithstanding
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* LogicBomb: When [[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Ahnold]] gets captured by the T-X and reprogrammed to kill John Connor, Connor saves himself by [[spoiler:making the T-850 realize that accomplishing that goal would mean failing its original mission; the logical conflict between the two causes the T-850 to destroy a truck instead of Connor, then shut itself down. He gets better, [[HeroicSacrifice briefly]].]]
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* LogicalWeakness: The T-X's ArmCannon seems to be the only part of her body that seems to be permanently damageable, and even that takes a direct hit from a rocket launcher to accomplish. This makes sense as it seems to be quite complex with lots of small moving parts and powered components.
* LogicBomb: When[[Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger Ahnold]] the T-850 gets captured by the T-X and reprogrammed to kill John Connor, Connor saves himself by [[spoiler:making the T-850 realize that accomplishing that goal would mean failing its original mission; the logical conflict between the two causes the T-850 to destroy a truck instead of Connor, then shut itself down. He gets better, [[HeroicSacrifice briefly]].]]
* LogicBomb: When
* MilesToGoBeforeISleep: This is part of Sarah Connor's fate as a PosthumousCharacter. Shortly after the events of ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'', she was diagnosed with leukemia and given six months, but lived for years, long enough to see August 29, 1997 come and go without incident. That said, [[spoiler:she was still ProperlyParanoid enough that her casket was loaded with weapons (Sarah herself had actually been cremated)]].
* MissionPackSequel: The movie's main novelty is to feature a female antagonist who is also far more technologically advanced than the original T-800 or even the T-1000, but otherwise has the same basic TerminatorTwosome plot as the first two movies. To make up for it, [[spoiler:the movie gives a SuddenDownerEnding to its story]].
* MissionPackSequel: The movie's main novelty is to feature a female antagonist who is also far more technologically advanced than the original T-800 or even the T-1000, but otherwise has the same basic TerminatorTwosome plot as the first two movies. To make up for it, [[spoiler:the movie gives a SuddenDownerEnding to its story]].
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* MsFanservice: The T-X.
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* MundaneSolution: The trick shown in the second movie about simply using the key in a car's vanity mirror instead of hotwiring the car itself returns here, becoming both a running gag and a paradox: how did the Terminator in ''T3'' remember the trick learned by the Terminator in ''T2''?
* {{Nanomachines}}: The T-X has nanomachines among the features of her [[SwissArmyAppendage versatile arm]], which are used for some MagicalComputer effects -- the nanobots infect other machines and allow the "Terminatrix" to control them.
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* NeverendingTerror: After the events of the second film and the death of his mother Sarah, John has been living off the grid for years, even though he hopes that their actions in the last movie have prevented Judgment Day and the machine uprising. Unfortunately for him, it didn't work and the machines send yet ''another'' Terminator to find him. Fortunately for him, because he's been living off the grid, it can't find him easily
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* NeverendingTerror: After the events of the second film and the death of his mother Sarah, John has been living off the grid for years, even though he hopes that their actions in the last movie have prevented Judgment Day and the machine uprising. Unfortunately for him, it didn't work and the machines send yet ''another'' Terminator to find him. Fortunately for him, because he's been living off the grid, it can't find him easilyeasily.
* NextSundayAD: The movie is set in 2004, just one year after the movie's release date.
* NextSundayAD: The movie is set in 2004, just one year after the movie's release date.
* NotTooDeadToSaveTheDay: The T-850 shuts itself down rather than go through with its reprogrammed objective to kill John. It returns later by dropping a helicopter on the T-X.
* OffTheGrid: John Connor has spent years off the grid so that Skynet in the future will never know exactly where he is on any given day, enabling them to send a Terminator back to intercept him. It's a grim lifestyle, he's even reduced to breaking into a veterinarian's office to get medical supplies to treat himself.
* OpenAirDriver: When the T-X needs to shake off the T-850 from her crane, she hits him into a passing firetruck. Undeterred, it commandeers the vehicle through the broken windshield before even giving the fire crew time to process what is going on.
* OpeningMonologue: In the style of the previous movie, this one starts with a monologue, only in this case it's not by Sarah Connor (who, in this movie, passed away beforehand anyway), but instead her son John.
* OpeningMonologue: In the style of the previous movie, this one starts with a monologue, only in this case it's not by Sarah Connor (who, in this movie, passed away beforehand anyway), but instead her son John.
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* PlotHole / WritersCannotDoMath: Right in the opening narration there is a goof as John mentions he was 13 during the previous movie - not only it's canon that he was 10 (it even appears in John's file the T-1000 looks up), but that would set it in 1997, the same year of Judgment Day!
** It also doesn't help that John mentions Sarah suffered from leukemia for three years before dying, which would correctly set the events of ''T2'' in 1994.
** It also doesn't help that John mentions Sarah suffered from leukemia for three years before dying, which would correctly set the events of ''T2'' in 1994.
* PowerCableAttack: The T-850 jams a power cable into the T-X's face. It only knocks her back and does no damage.
* PrematureEncapsulation: ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' was the film where the protagonists stopped Judgment Day from happening. This movie is the one where it happens anyway.
* PrimAndProperBun: The T-X starts with her hair down due to being NakedOnArrival like all time travelers (both human and Terminator) from the future, but immediately steals this hairstyle along with the clothes from the first human woman she finds and kills and keeps it for the rest of the film, where it helps to emphasize the cold and emotionless nature that she has as a hostile Terminator.
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* QuizzicalTilt: Done by the T-X in a reproving way, similar to the T-1000's FingerWag.
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* QuizzicalTilt: Done by After the T-X is repeatedly hit in the head with a fire extinguisher ([[ExorcistHead even doing a 360 spin]]), she tilts her head with a disapproving expression -- in a reproving way, similar clear homage to the T-1000's FingerWag.FingerWag. The T-850's face afterwards just screams "OhCrap".
* RapidDNATest: The T-X can scan DNA in blood samples using her mouth.
* ReplicantSnatching: The Terminatrix (T-X) has the ability to replicate the appearance of her victims. The T-850 even lampshades it.
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* {{Retcon}} / TechMarchesOn: Nice job of accounting for the development of the internet and distributed computing, which arose between the second and third films.
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* {{Retcon}} / TechMarchesOn: {{Retcon}}: Nice job of accounting for the development of the internet and distributed computing, which arose between the second and third films.
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* RobotGirl: The T-X.
* SavedByTheCoffin: The Terminator carries John Connor and Kate Brewster through a hail of bullets and out of harm's way in a steel coffin.
* SceneryCensor: When the naked T-X walks towards the camera, there's a tactically placed side view mirror, so we can't see her full body. Then we cut to a POV from behind her, and we ''can'' see it
* SavedByTheCoffin: The Terminator carries John Connor and Kate Brewster through a hail of bullets and out of harm's way in a steel coffin.
* SceneryCensor: When the naked T-X walks towards the camera, there's a tactically placed side view mirror, so we can't see her full body. Then we cut to a POV from behind her, and we ''can'' see it
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* RoboticReveal:
** When Kate Brewster sees her fiancé, Scott, at the cemetery where Sarah Connor's tomb is located, but he reforms, and an endoskeleton is visible, revealing him to be the T-X in disguise.
** As John, Kate and the T-850 are heading to the base, General Brewster gives Skynet free range, at the same time, Kate appears out of nowhere, causing General Brewster to question her sudden appearance, but the T-850 shoots her multiple times, revealing her to be the T-X in disguise again.
* RobotsEnslavingRobots: At one point, the T-X seizes control of the T-850 and forces him to attack John.
* SafeZoneHopeSpot: Inverted, as the T-850 tricks John into thinking that they're going to [[spoiler:Skynet's core]] to stop Judgment Day. Instead the T-850 is taking him to [[spoiler:a hardened bunker so John can survive Judgment Day and lead the resistance]]. It still serves as a HopeSpot and leads to a [[ShootTheShaggyDog depressing ending]].
* SameContentDifferentRating: The movie was given an R-rating in the U.S. like the other films, but in the UK it was rated 12A, the first in the franchise to get that rating.
* SavedByTheCoffin: The Terminator carries John Connor and Kate Brewster through a hail of bullets and out of harm's way in a steel
* SaveThisPersonSaveTheWorld: Skynet wises up to its less-than-perfect track record and adds additional secondary targets along with the primary objective of killing John; in theory, without his lieutenants and specialists to help him win the war, he's just a nutcase who thinks he's the chosen one. The T-X succeeds in terminating most of those secondaries and John ''still'' remains a threat.
* SceneryCensor: When the naked T-X walks towards the camera, there's a tactically placed side view mirror, so we can't see her full body. Then we cut to a POV from behind her, and we ''can'' see
* ScrewDestiny: Unlike the second movie, this one completely ignores the trope's message and goes right back to YouCantFightFate (though John Connor does try to invoke this trope by name at least once). ''Terminator 2'' was ''itself'' an instance of ignoring the YouCantFightFate message of the first film, so this movie merely reinstated the latter's original envisioning of the future predicted by it.
* SelectiveMagnetism: John Conner uses a magnetic coil against the Terminatrix, which drags the gun out of his hand, but they seem unaffected by anything else on their bodies, like belt buckles or zippers. It might work, however, if they're made of non-ferromagnetic metals, such as brass or aluminium.
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* ShoutOut: The T-X has a [[Film/{{Aliens}} M-41 Pulse Rifle]] in its list of available weapons to change its hand into.
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** The T-X has a [[Film/{{Aliens}} M-41 Pulse Rifle]] in its list of available weapons to change its hand into.
** The T-X has a [[Film/{{Aliens}} M-41 Pulse Rifle]] in its list of available weapons to change its hand into.
* StoryboardingTheApocalypse: The movie shows the apocalypse happening as nuclear missiles rain down on cities.
* TalkToTheHand: the T-850 tells a male stripper to hand over his clothes. The stripper tells him to "talk to the hand", prompting the Terminator to grab his hand, nearly crush it, [[LiteralMinded and say "Now".]] Later, he repeats the line in a completely deadpan voice to a cashier while stealing supplies from a roadside store.
* TerminatorTwosome: Because John Connor cannot be located, the T-X is instead sent after who will become John Connor's top lieutenants [[spoiler:and wife]]. Finding John Connor was just a bonus.
* ThemeMusicWithholding: Music/BradFiedel's theme is heard only in the end credits.
* ThemeMusicWithholding: Music/BradFiedel's theme is heard only in the end credits.
* V8EngineNoises: Inverted, as the V8-powered Lexus [=SC430=] is dubbed over with sounds from a high revving four-cylinder engine (probably a Honda S2000).
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* WallOfWeapons: Sarah Connor hid a weapon cache IN HER COFFIN (of course, SHE isn't in it.) Of course that probably moves into CrazyPrepared territory.
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* VanityLicensePlate: Katherine Brewster's van reads "PET DOC 2".
* WallOfWeapons: SarahConnor hid Connor's coffin hides a weapon cache IN HER COFFIN (of course, SHE (she isn't in it.) Of course that probably it). This moves her into CrazyPrepared territory.
* WallOfWeapons: Sarah
* WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: A Gas station clerk flicks though multiple channels, each with a test card on. Further proof that [[spoiler:[[ContagiousAI Skynet]] is taking over.]]
* WeWillMeetAgain: An odd heroic usage. Just before the good terminator blows up the Terminatrix with his own power cell, he tells John Connor, "We will meet again." The twist, in this case, is that the Terminator sent back in time is the one that [[spoiler:''succeeds in killing John'']] in the future.
* WeWillMeetAgain: An odd heroic usage. Just before the good terminator blows up the Terminatrix with his own power cell, he tells John Connor, "We will meet again." The twist, in this case, is that the Terminator sent back in time is the one that [[spoiler:''succeeds in killing John'']] in the future.
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* WritersCannotDoMath: As stated with ContinuitySnarl, a bit of this going on with this film in relation to fact and the events of the first two.
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* WrittenInAbsence: It is said that Sarah Connor died of leukemia in 1997. The actress, Creator/LindaHamilton, would not play a part because she felt that T2 was the proper ending and there was no reason for shooting more pictures in the franchise.
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* YouAreInCommandNow: [[spoiler:John Connor and his future wife Kate]] reach the West Coast command bunker, but none of the civilian leadership did because of [=SkyNet's=] interference. So the former character seizes control of the confused and scattered resistance by default.
* YouAreTooLate: The movie ends with John Connor finding out Skynet has no central server but rather has programming distributed across the entire internet, thus stopping it from becoming self-aware had essentially been impossible for quite a while. The goal is still to stop Skynet, but with half the planet nuked it may take a few more movies. The T-850 sent back to protect him actually knew this but withheld the information to be sure John would come with him, accepting the deaths of much of the planet's population to guarantee the survival of humanity as a whole.
* YouAreTooLate: The movie ends with John Connor finding out Skynet has no central server but rather has programming distributed across the entire internet, thus stopping it from becoming self-aware had essentially been impossible for quite a while. The goal is still to stop Skynet, but with half the planet nuked it may take a few more movies. The T-850 sent back to protect him actually knew this but withheld the information to be sure John would come with him, accepting the deaths of much of the planet's population to guarantee the survival of humanity as a whole.
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* OverTheShoulderCarry: The T-850, upon meeting her for (in her case) the first time, he grabs her and does this trope to put her in the truck and interrogate her.
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* OverTheShoulderCarry: The T-850, upon meeting her Kate Brewster for (in her case) the first time, he grabs her and does this trope to put her in the truck and interrogate her.
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They are running along the repair gantry for the accelerator. The accelerator is the tube the T-X is magnetized to.
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* NoOSHACompliance: When John and Kate are trying to escape from the Cyber Research Systems facility, they have to go ''through the particle accelerator'' to reach the runway.
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Supplementary material, including the Sarah Conner Chronicles, state the T-850 has a weight of approximately 640 pounds, and the TX weighs approximately 330 pounds according to the novelization. This would place their *total* weight at around 1 metric tonne, or 1000 pounds. Heavy, but not to the extremes stated in the original entry.
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* SceneryCensor: When the naked T-X walks towards the camera, there's a tactically placed side view mirror, so we can't see her full body. Then we cut to a POV from behind her, and we ''can'' see it.
* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: In the director's commentary for the T-X / T-850 fight scene in the toilets, Mostow comments that the two "literally weigh a ton." No, they do not. If they did, they would leave footprints in almost any material, would collapse the suspension of almost any vehicle they got into, and would be unable to use elevators or stairs. In ''T1'', a hydraulic press smashed a T-800, but the T-850 can hold up a huge blast door with one hand, and manage to wrestle and blow up the TX at the same time.
* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: In the director's commentary for the T-X / T-850 fight scene in the toilets, Mostow comments that the two "literally weigh a ton." No, they do not. If they did, they would leave footprints in almost any material, would collapse the suspension of almost any vehicle they got into, and would be unable to use elevators or stairs. In ''T1'', a hydraulic press smashed a T-800, but the T-850 can hold up a huge blast door with one hand, and manage to wrestle and blow up the TX at the same time.
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* SceneryCensor: When the naked T-X walks towards the camera, there's a tactically placed side view mirror, so we can't see her full body. Then we cut to a POV from behind her, and we ''can'' see it.
* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: In the director's commentary for the T-X / T-850 fight scene in the toilets, Mostow comments that the two "literally weigh a ton." No, they do not. If they did, they would leave footprints in almost any material, would collapse the suspension of almost any vehicle they got into, and would be unable to use elevators or stairs. In ''T1'', a hydraulic press smashed a T-800, but the T-850 can hold up a huge blast door with one hand, and manage to wrestle and blow up the TX at the same time.it
* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: In the director's commentary for the T-X / T-850 fight scene in the toilets, Mostow comments that the two "literally weigh a ton." No, they do not. If they did, they would leave footprints in almost any material, would collapse the suspension of almost any vehicle they got into, and would be unable to use elevators or stairs. In ''T1'', a hydraulic press smashed a T-800, but the T-850 can hold up a huge blast door with one hand, and manage to wrestle and blow up the TX at the same time.
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The fact that Kate is introduced in this film, and then appears as John's wife in Salvation, is enough to show that Salvation is a sequel to T3. Since in T3, the Terminator tells John that he and Kate Brewster will have children in the future, who will become important. In Salvation, we see Kate pregnant with their first child, showing that they were still following up on the same plot thread. As well, T3 ends with Judgment Day finally happening, while Salvation picks up After The End.
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The film was followed by ''Film/TerminatorSalvation''. While it has never been clearly considered as a sequel to ''Rise of the Machines'', it did acknowledge elements the latter established such as Kate Brewster and the T-800 line's unstable fuel cells.
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The film was followed by ''Film/TerminatorSalvation''. While it has never been clearly considered as a sequel to ''Rise of the Machines'', it did acknowledge elements the latter established such as Kate Brewster and the T-800 line's unstable fuel cells.
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* SinisterNudity: Played with; the heroic T-850 has his nude arrival played for laughs, since he has to mug a male stripper for clothes, while the T-X appears distinctly off-putting while wandering naked down the street and murdering a motorist for her clothes.
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* BittersweetEnding: With heavy emphasis on the bitter. [[spoiler:The film heavily implies that YouCantFightFate, overriding the more hopeful tone of the previous film, with John and Kate realizing they are powerless to stop Skynet's nuclear assault on humanity. It's also heavily implied that John will be unable to avert his fate of dying at the hands of the T-850 in the future. At the same time, John will still be able to fulfill his destiny and defeat Skynet, giving humanity a chance to rebuild. Furthermore, the T-X fails its primary objective, but successfully kills off several of John's future lieutenants.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: With heavy emphasis on the bitter. [[spoiler:The film heavily implies that YouCantFightFate, overriding the more hopeful tone of the previous film, with John and Kate realizing they are powerless to stop Skynet's nuclear assault on humanity. It's also heavily implied that John will be unable to avert his fate of dying at the hands of the T-850 in the future. At the same time, John will still be able to fulfill his destiny and defeat Skynet, giving humanity a chance to rebuild. Furthermore, While the T-X fails in its primary objective, but objective to kill John, it does successfully kills kill off several of John's his lieutenants in their youth, making the future lieutenants.war more difficult. If there is any hope, it's that Skynet can't fight fate either: it can't fundamentally alter the timeline and is still destined to be defeated by John Connor.]]
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* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: When [=SkyNet=] goes online, someone says that it's processing at 60 teraflops a second. So, that's 60 000 000 000 000 floating point operations per second a second.
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* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: When [=SkyNet=] goes online, someone says that it's processing at 60 teraflops a second. So, second: "teraflop" already means "trillion calculations per second", so that's 60 000 000 000 000 floating point operations like saying "60 trillion calculations per second a second.per second".
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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: While it wasn't specifically said that ''all'' of John Connor's lieutenants went to school with him, it would appear that most of them did. From this we can conclude that the future ran out of professional soldiers and he had to fall back on people he knew for less than a year when he was ten (or thirteen, depending on which film you're watching).
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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: While it wasn't specifically said that ''all'' of John Connor's lieutenants went to school with him, it would appear that most of them did. From this we can conclude that the future ran out of professional soldiers and he had to fall back on people he knew for less than a year when he was ten (or thirteen, depending on which film you're watching). One possible explanation is that John rallies survivors he knows in the L.A. area, and they survive long enough to become prominent resistance lieutenants specifically because of John's training and leadership.
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** The T-X remarks "I like this car", "I like your gun" etc. before killing people to obtain said items from them. Seems to be a holdover from the T-1000, who would wryly note "that's a nice [x]" before killing someone for it, i.e. "that's a nice bike" before he killed a motorcycle cop off-screen to take his ride.
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** The machines protecting Skynet Central were programmed to obliterate anything carbon-based that enters the zone; it was also protected by an enormous wall, integrated gun emplacements and sensors. Skynet didn't need sentries, ambulatory patrols or razor wire; the high-powered instant reactive automated cannons mounted in gimbal turrets detect and annihilate anything organic on the perimeter; machines could pass that by continuously broadcasting their assigned ID to recognized Skynet protocols. Skynet Central had self-aware loaders, welders, trucks, tiny scavenging devices, multi-wheeled clean-up containers, etc. They all shared the same narrow purpose. T-600s patrol the exterior. Skynet Central has a jungle of antennae on the roof. The ventilation shafts generate so much heat, even the machines need fresh air. The top floor is the command centre, that has more processing power than the planet ever had. Skynet uses a series of lights to show if everything is working right; green or white meant yes, red and yellow meant no, but that was rare. Skynet Central has a database on all prisoners. Skynet Central didn't have much in the way of sentries on patrol because the machines thought no-one could get past the outer fortifications so wouldn't waste resources. There are inactive machines at Skynet Central like excavators or delivery trucks, mindless servants that lacked sentience and couldn't make decisions on their own without what Skynet programmed into them. Skynet Central was designed to provide easy access from T-1's to larger wheeled machinery. It was their own constructed world, doorless, clean, polished, functional and nothing human. The controls at Skynet Central were familiar and straightforward, a standard Skynet design. The door locks need a disruptor to short them out.
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: As John becomes ResignedToTheCall at the very end, a civil defense official asks him two simple questions that get to the heart of the weight on his shoulders: "Who's in charge up there?" and "Connor, can you help us?"
* DidntSeeThatComing:
** John is admittedly surprised when Kate (who has just locked him up in the kennel) reveals they went to school together.
** At the vet, the T-X tests a blood sample out of curiosity. She is taken aback when it matches John.
** John is admittedly surprised when Kate (who has just locked him up in the kennel) reveals they went to school together.
** At the vet, the T-X tests a blood sample out of curiosity. She is taken aback when it matches John.
* TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou: During John's opening narration, he has a nightmare about an army of Terminators on the battlefield. The one closest to the screen looks around and then starts glaring at the audience.
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* OhCrap: Doctor Silberman's face as he sees the T-850. And the T-850 before the T-X throws him into a bathroom wall. [[spoiler:The T-X herself gets one when she realizes that the T-850 is about to kill them both.]]
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* OhCrap: OhCrap:
** Doctor Silberman's face as he sees the T-850. And the T-850 before the T-X throws him into a bathroom wall. [[spoiler:The T-X herself gets one when she realizes that the T-850 is about to kill them both.]]]]
** At the kennel, John sees the T-X's RaisedHandOfSurvival and becomes even more desperate to escape. Before fleeing, he takes a moment to look at this cybernetic hand and looks overwhelmed with fear and despair.
** Doctor Silberman's face as he sees the T-850. And the T-850 before the T-X throws him into a bathroom wall. [[spoiler:The T-X herself gets one when she realizes that the T-850 is about to kill them both.
** At the kennel, John sees the T-X's RaisedHandOfSurvival and becomes even more desperate to escape. Before fleeing, he takes a moment to look at this cybernetic hand and looks overwhelmed with fear and despair.
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* RaceAgainstTheClock: The T-850 opposes John's efforts to avert Judgment Day, due to there just not being sufficient time, but John forces him to comply. [[spoiler:They fail. After Skynet is fully activated, the T-850 says the nuclear assault will begin in one hour. John and Kate think the system core is in Crystal Peak and that there's one last chance to save the world, but it's actually a VIP bunker that will protect them from the blasts. The T-850 knew this was the case, as his mission was to protect John and Kate.]]
* RaisedHandOfSurvival: After the T-850 crashes into her outside the vet, the TX-1 is buried under rubble near where John is caged. As John tries to get himself free, he sees her hand burst free and start repairing itself.
* RaisedHandOfSurvival: After the T-850 crashes into her outside the vet, the TX-1 is buried under rubble near where John is caged. As John tries to get himself free, he sees her hand burst free and start repairing itself.
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* LikeParentLikeSpouse: After Kate destroys an Aerial HK drone with an assault rifle, a visibly attracted John stares at her in awed silence.
-->'''Kate''': What?\\
'''John''': Nothing. ''[{{Beat}}]'' You remind me of my mother.
-->'''Kate''': What?\\
'''John''': Nothing. ''[{{Beat}}]'' You remind me of my mother.
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* OedipusComplex: After Kate destroys an Aerial HK drone with an assault rifle, a visibly attracted John stares at her in awed silence.
-->'''Kate''': What?\\
'''John''': Nothing. ''[[{{Beat}} <<beat>>]]'' You remind me of my mother.
-->'''Kate''': What?\\
'''John''': Nothing. ''[[{{Beat}} <<beat>>]]'' You remind me of my mother.
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* GodivaHair: When the T-X first arrives, her naked breasts are covered by her long curly hair.
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* GodivaHair: When the T-X first arrives, is NakedOnArrival, her naked breasts are covered by her long curly hair.hair. Amusingly, she does her hair up in a PrimAndProperBun as soon as she gets some clothes on.
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* GroinAttack: During the fight between T-X and T-850, the female Terminator grabs and squeezes his nuts and then [[EffortlessAmazonianLift lifts his body as if he's just a styrofoam]] before she ram him to some fences. Could be considered funny when you realizes this happened in a toilet.
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* GroinAttack: During the fight between T-X and T-850, the female Terminator grabs and squeezes his nuts and then [[EffortlessAmazonianLift lifts his body as if he's just a styrofoam]] before she ram him to some fences. Could be considered funny when you realizes realize this happened in a toilet.
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* SexyWalk: Complete with this too.
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* BrotherSisterTeam: William and Elizabeth Anderson. They were significant enough to be targets for the T-X.
