History Film / SupermanIII

15th Dec '17 5:09:31 PM Anddrix
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''Superman III'' was directed by [[Film/AHardDaysNight Richard]] [[Film/{{Help}} Lester]] (who completed ''Film/SupermanII'' after Creator/RichardDonner was canned following a litany of disagreements with the producers), and its emphasis on comedy was (and still is) derided in some circles -- although this discontent has more to do with the acrimony going on behind the scenes. A very serious 'duel' between Superman and his Clark Kent personality (as the hero literally grapples with his darker nature) is widely considered one of the finest moments from the film series. Creator/RichardPryor's performance is also a LoveItOrHateIt affair, as he was an avowed fan of Superman and tried his best to do the film justice (because if [[PluckyComicRelief unnecessary comic relief]] is going to be shoehorned into a film at all, it might as well be left to an actual comedian).

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''Superman III'' was directed by [[Film/AHardDaysNight Richard]] [[Film/{{Help}} Lester]] (who completed ''Film/SupermanII'' after Creator/RichardDonner was canned following a litany of disagreements with the producers), and its emphasis on comedy was (and still is) derided in some circles -- although this discontent has more to do with the acrimony going on behind the scenes. A very serious 'duel' between Superman and his Clark Kent personality (as the hero literally grapples with his darker nature) is widely considered one of the finest moments from the film series. Creator/RichardPryor's performance is also a LoveItOrHateIt polarizing affair, as he was an avowed fan of Superman and tried his best to do the film justice (because if [[PluckyComicRelief unnecessary comic relief]] is going to be shoehorned into a film at all, it might as well be left to an actual comedian).
22nd Sep '17 2:34:06 AM JohnShel91
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: When Vera starts ranting over the stolen money, Ross tells her to get ahold of herself, [[TemptingFate muttering to himself no-one else ever will]]. [[spoiler: Later, the supercomputer gets ahold of her and [[BodyHorror transformers her into a cyborg.]]]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: When Vera starts ranting over the stolen money, Ross tells her to get ahold of herself, [[TemptingFate muttering to himself no-one else ever will]]. [[spoiler: Later, the supercomputer gets ahold of her and [[BodyHorror transformers transforms her into a cyborg.]]]]
21st Sep '17 3:30:06 AM JohnShel91
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: When Vera starts ranting over the stolen money, Ross tells her to get ahold of herself, [[TemptingFate muttering to himself no-one else ever will]]. [[spoiler: Later, the supercomputer gets ahold of her and [[BodyHorror transformers her into a cyborg.]]]]
26th Jul '17 7:08:21 AM cluosborne
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* SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay:
** Weather Satellites Do Not Work That Way]]: They ''report'' on the weather, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Ross Webster]], they don't control it! (This is acknowledged, however, by Ross, who wants Gus to somehow cause them to disrupt it.)
*** Gets made fun of in the ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' parody of the movie. Kinda brave of them, too, considering ''Mad'' is owned by the same parent company that made the film.[[note]]A fact pointed out in the ''very same parody'' in the panel where Superman is fighting the missiles and Lorelei points out that it looks likes an Atari video game (as the parody notes, Warner both released the movie and owns Atari... "And why is ''Mad'' publicising this bomberoo and doing a satire of it, as opposed to doing another, more important movie?" "Don't tell me it's because Warner owns them, too? Oh, WOW!")[[/note]]
** Gus later sends the very same satellite to the former location of Krypton and scans the remains to find out what kryptonite consists of. Apparently the satellite is equipped with a geological spectroscope and an FTL drive, since Krypton is a long way off, and that's assuming they even know where to look.


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* [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay Weather Satellites Do Not Work That Way :]]
** They ''report'' on the weather, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Ross Webster]], they don't control it! (This is acknowledged, however, by Ross, who wants Gus to somehow cause them to disrupt it.)
*** Gets made fun of in the ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' parody of the movie. Kinda brave of them, too, considering ''Mad'' is owned by the same parent company that made the film.[[note]]A fact pointed out in the ''very same parody'' in the panel where Superman is fighting the missiles and Lorelei points out that it looks likes an Atari video game (as the parody notes, Warner both released the movie and owns Atari... "And why is ''Mad'' publicising this bomberoo and doing a satire of it, as opposed to doing another, more important movie?" "Don't tell me it's because Warner owns them, too? Oh, WOW!")[[/note]]
** Gus later sends the very same satellite to the former location of Krypton and scans the remains to find out what kryptonite consists of. Apparently the satellite is equipped with a geological spectroscope and an FTL drive, since Krypton is a long way off, and that's assuming they even know where to look.
26th Jul '17 7:06:43 AM cluosborne
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* SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay:
** Weather Satellites Do Not Work That Way]]: They ''report'' on the weather, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Ross Webster]], they don't control it! (This is acknowledged, however, by Ross, who wants Gus to somehow cause them to disrupt it.)
***Gets made fun of in the ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' parody of the movie. Kinda brave of them, too, considering ''Mad'' is owned by the same parent company that made the film.[[note]]A fact pointed out in the ''very same parody'' in the panel where Superman is fighting the missiles and Lorelei points out that it looks likes an Atari video game (as the parody notes, Warner both released the movie and owns Atari... "And why is ''Mad'' publicising this bomberoo and doing a satire of it, as opposed to doing another, more important movie?" "Don't tell me it's because Warner owns them, too? Oh, WOW!")[[/note]]
** Gus later sends the very same satellite to the former location of Krypton and scans the remains to find out what kryptonite consists of. Apparently the satellite is equipped with a geological spectroscope and an FTL drive, since Krypton is a long way off, and that's assuming they even know where to look.



* [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay:
** Weather Satellites Do Not Work That Way]]: They ''report'' on the weather, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Ross Webster]], they don't control it! (This is acknowledged, however, by Ross, who wants Gus to somehow cause them to disrupt it.)
Gets made fun of in the ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' parody of the movie. Kinda brave of them, too, considering ''Mad'' is owned by the same parent company that made the film.[[note]]A fact pointed out in the ''very same parody'' in the panel where Superman is fighting the missiles and Lorelei points out that it looks likes an Atari video game (as the parody notes, Warner both released the movie and owns Atari... "And why is ''Mad'' publicising this bomberoo and doing a satire of it, as opposed to doing another, more important movie?" "Don't tell me it's because Warner owns them, too? Oh, WOW!")[[/note]]
** Gus later sends the very same satellite to the former location of Krypton and scans the remains to find out what kryptonite consists of. Apparently the satellite is equipped with a geological spectroscope and an FTL drive, since Krypton is a long way off, and that's assuming they even know where to look.
29th May '17 2:32:45 PM LentilSandEater
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** The replacement for Lois is Lana Lang, who is just as important as Lois in the mythology. Exploring Superman's relationship for the first time in the modern film series was kind of sweet.



* DistractedByTheSexy: The cause of the DisasterDominoes was Lorelei walking by.
** Speaking of which, Jimmy took way too many pictures of her, according to Perry.

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* DistractedByTheSexy: The cause of the DisasterDominoes was Lorelei walking by.
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by. Speaking of which, Jimmy took way too many pictures of her, according to Perry.



* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: Averted. Superman (while under the influence of the above mentioned "artificial" [[GreenRocks Kryptonite]]) has sex with Lorelei. Admittedly it is merely heavily implied rather than outright confirmed.
** Judging by the scared look on Lorelei when Superman takes advantage, you have to think she was wondering if this Trope applied or not. (Lucky for her, it did not.)

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* ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex: Averted. Superman (while under the influence of the above mentioned "artificial" [[GreenRocks Kryptonite]]) has sex with Lorelei. Admittedly it is merely heavily implied rather than outright confirmed.
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confirmed. Judging by the scared look on Lorelei when Superman takes advantage, you have to think she was wondering if this Trope applied or not. (Lucky for her, it did not.)



* MundaneUtility: Superman crushes a piece of coal in his bare hands to produce a diamond to replace the one in the ring Lana had to pawn off.
** Some of Supes' acts of Superdickery, like putting out the Olympic torch, breaking liquor bottles by flicking peanuts at them, or melting the bar's mirorred walls with his heat vision.

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* MundaneUtility: Superman crushes a piece of coal in his bare hands to produce a diamond to replace the one in the ring Lana had to pawn off.
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off. Some of Supes' acts of Superdickery, like putting out the Olympic torch, breaking liquor bottles by flicking peanuts at them, or melting the bar's mirorred walls with his heat vision.



* NoOSHACompliance: Okay, it's funny when a drunken Superman falls into a giant pit of acid. But the only thing preventing the regular junkyard workers from falling in is the sign that proclaims it to be acid. On ground level, no guard rail, open top...
** Also there's no railing or any kind of barrier around Webster's rooftop ski resort to stop Gus from falling several dozen stories to the ground.

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* NoOSHACompliance: Okay, it's funny when a drunken Superman falls into a giant pit of acid. But the only thing preventing the regular junkyard workers from falling in is the sign that proclaims it to be acid. On ground level, no guard rail, open top...
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top.Also there's no railing or any kind of barrier around Webster's rooftop ski resort to stop Gus from falling several dozen stories to the ground.



* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: A bizarre case. The original theatrical cut only has Gus telling Ross and company what Superman did. The television cut actually '''shows''' Superman performing incredible feats. ''Why'' this was removed is anyone's guess.

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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: A bizarre case. The original theatrical cut only has Gus telling Ross and company what Superman did. The television cut actually '''shows''' Superman performing incredible feats. ''Why'' this was removed is anyone's guess. In a movie with Superman's name on the title, you would think that Superman ''saving an entire country'' would be directly depicted, not shown in flashback with descriptions or simply recounted verbally by the comedian co-star.



** Either way, a very good example of the reasons for fan criticism of this film; in a movie with Superman's name on the title, one would think that Superman ''saving an entire country'' would be directly depicted, not shown in flashback with descriptions or simply recounted verbally by the comedian co-star.
* PacManFever: More literal than usual: Ross fights Superman with a supercomputer... one that is apparently part UsefulNotes/AtariST given the gorgeous graphics... and part UsefulNotes/Atari2600, complete with sound effects lifted directly from that console's execrable version of VideoGame/PacMan.
** In this case, [[http://www.atariage.com/magazines/magazine_page.html?MagazineID=9&CurrentPage=12 Atari themselves created the computerized footage]], and made it blockier than they could have on purpose, and were planning to [[http://www.atariprotos.com/8bit/software/supermanIII/supermanIII.htm release an Atari 5200 game based on the film]]. So they probably provided the 2600 Pac-Man sound effects themselves, especially considering that, at the time, Atari, Inc. was owned by DC Comics parent company and Superman film distributor Warner Communications.

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** Either way, a very good example of the reasons for fan criticism of this film; in a movie with Superman's name on the title, one would think that Superman ''saving an entire country'' would be directly depicted, not shown in flashback with descriptions or simply recounted verbally by the comedian co-star.
* PacManFever: More literal than usual: Ross fights Superman with a supercomputer... one that is apparently part UsefulNotes/AtariST given the gorgeous graphics... and part UsefulNotes/Atari2600, complete with sound effects lifted directly from that console's execrable version of VideoGame/PacMan.
**
VideoGame/PacMan. In this case, [[http://www.atariage.com/magazines/magazine_page.html?MagazineID=9&CurrentPage=12 Atari themselves created the computerized footage]], and made it blockier than they could have on purpose, and were planning to [[http://www.atariprotos.com/8bit/software/supermanIII/supermanIII.htm release an Atari 5200 game based on the film]]. So they probably provided the 2600 Pac-Man sound effects themselves, especially considering that, at the time, Atari, Inc. was owned by DC Comics parent company and Superman film distributor Warner Communications.



* PokeThePoodle: "Evil" Superman is really more of a superhuman {{Jerkass}}: straightening the Leaning Tower of Pisa (which is something they've been trying to do for years), tearing a hole in an oil rig, and blowing out the Olympic Torch.
** That said; The oil rig bit would be the closest to a genuinely evil act, he caused a freakin' oil spill....which can result in some very dire environmental damage.

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* PokeThePoodle: "Evil" Superman is really more of a superhuman {{Jerkass}}: straightening the Leaning Tower of Pisa (which is something they've been trying to do for years), tearing a hole in an oil rig, and blowing out the Olympic Torch.
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Torch. That said; The oil rig bit would be the closest to a genuinely evil act, he caused a freakin' oil spill....which can result in some very dire environmental damage.



* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: '''Come on.''' ''No one'' noticed a little boy just ''shattered 10 bowling pins'' with an almost ''supersonic'' bowling ball? Jesus, Richard Lester. There's comedy and there's Willing Suspension of Disbelief.

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* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: UnusuallyUninterestingSight:
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'''Come on.''' ''No one'' noticed a little boy just ''shattered 10 bowling pins'' with an almost ''supersonic'' bowling ball? Jesus, Richard Lester. There's comedy and there's Willing Suspension of Disbelief.



*** Not to mention all the ''other'' cockamamie things going on in the opening sequence, while many people on the street just ignore it and carry on with their own business.

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*** ** Not to mention all the ''other'' cockamamie things going on in the opening sequence, while many people on the street just ignore it and carry on with their own business.



* [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay Weather Satellites Do Not Work That Way]]: They ''report'' on the weather, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Ross Webster]], they don't control it! (This is acknowledged, however, by Ross, who wants Gus to somehow cause them to disrupt it.)
** Lampshaded in the ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' parody of the movie. Kinda brave of them, too, considering ''Mad'' is owned by the same parent company that made the film.[[note]]A fact pointed out in the ''very same parody'' in the panel where Superman is fighting the missiles and Lorelei points out that it looks likes an Atari video game (as the parody notes, Warner both released the movie and owns Atari... "And why is ''Mad'' publicising this bomberoo and doing a satire of it, as opposed to doing another, more important movie?" "Don't tell me it's because Warner owns them, too? Oh, WOW!")[[/note]]

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Weather Satellites Do Not Work That Way]]: They ''report'' on the weather, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Ross Webster]], they don't control it! (This is acknowledged, however, by Ross, who wants Gus to somehow cause them to disrupt it.)
** Lampshaded Gets made fun of in the ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' parody of the movie. Kinda brave of them, too, considering ''Mad'' is owned by the same parent company that made the film.[[note]]A fact pointed out in the ''very same parody'' in the panel where Superman is fighting the missiles and Lorelei points out that it looks likes an Atari video game (as the parody notes, Warner both released the movie and owns Atari... "And why is ''Mad'' publicising this bomberoo and doing a satire of it, as opposed to doing another, more important movie?" "Don't tell me it's because Warner owns them, too? Oh, WOW!")[[/note]]
29th May '17 2:27:50 PM LentilSandEater
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** Justified: The Daily Planet admitting it did some CriticalResearchFailure scheduling a trip ''in the middle of hurricane season'' (even if said hurricane was induced.) They wouldn't be the first paper to say "Caribbean trip to Bermuda". Heck, ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'' did the same thing.
17th Apr '17 9:28:43 PM cluosborne
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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: Lorelei tries this just before the computer developed a mind of its own.

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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: Lorelei tries this just before after the computer developed a mind of its own.
31st Mar '17 1:21:55 PM cluosborne
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* SocialEngineering: How Gus gets into the Wheat King subsidiary after hours to use their computer. He dresses up in a cheesy suit, pretends to be an alcohol salesman that needs to install a bar for the boss, and gets the lone security guard Brad drunk enough to pass out.

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* SocialEngineering: How Gus gets into the Wheat King [=WheatKing=] subsidiary after hours to use their computer. He dresses up in a cheesy suit, pretends to be an alcohol salesman that needs to install a bar for the boss, and gets the lone security guard Brad drunk enough to pass out.
31st Mar '17 1:19:44 PM cluosborne
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* SocialEngineering: How Gus gets into the Wheat King subsidiary after hours to use their computer. He dresses up in a cheesy suit, pretends to be an alcohol salesman that needs to install a bar for the boss, and gets the lone security guard Brad drunk enough to pass out.
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