History Film / SupermanII

28th Mar '16 7:45:53 AM hullflyer
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** In the "Donner Cut," a BatmanGambit is also pulled by Lois while she's attempting to prove Clark and Superman are the same person. She pulls a gun on Clark, saying that if he were Superman it would have no effect. [[spoiler: After getting shot, Clark pretends to stagger, but reveals that Lois is, in fact, right. When he points out that if she were wrong, he would have died, Lois then reveals the bullet she shot him with was a blank. [[FridgeLogic Which is kind of silly anyway, as the first movie clearly depicted Clark as being fast enough to ''catch'' a bullet - meaning he easily would have seen that no bullet came out of the gun]].]]

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** In the "Donner Cut," a BatmanGambit is also pulled by Lois while she's attempting to prove Clark and Superman are the same person. She pulls a gun on Clark, saying that if he were Superman it would have no effect. [[spoiler: After getting shot, Clark pretends to stagger, but reveals that Lois is, in fact, right. When he points out that if she were wrong, he would have died, Lois then reveals the bullet she shot him with was a blank. [[FridgeLogic Which is kind of silly anyway, as the first movie clearly depicted Clark as being fast enough to ''catch'' catch a bullet - meaning he easily would have seen that no bullet came out of the gun]].]]
28th Mar '16 7:45:32 AM hullflyer
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** In the "Donner Cut," a BatmanGambit is also pulled by Lois while she's attempting to prove Clark and Superman are the same person. She pulls a gun on Clark, saying that if he were Superman it would have no effect. [[spoiler: After getting shot, Clark pretends to stagger, but reveals that Lois is, in fact, right. When he points out that if she were wrong, he would have died, Lois then reveals the bullet she shot him with was a blank.]]

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** In the "Donner Cut," a BatmanGambit is also pulled by Lois while she's attempting to prove Clark and Superman are the same person. She pulls a gun on Clark, saying that if he were Superman it would have no effect. [[spoiler: After getting shot, Clark pretends to stagger, but reveals that Lois is, in fact, right. When he points out that if she were wrong, he would have died, Lois then reveals the bullet she shot him with was a blank. [[FridgeLogic Which is kind of silly anyway, as the first movie clearly depicted Clark as being fast enough to ''catch'' a bullet - meaning he easily would have seen that no bullet came out of the gun]].]]
26th Jan '16 11:52:52 PM Anicomicgeek
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26th Jan '16 11:52:51 PM Anicomicgeek
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: After having their powers drained by red sun radiation, Superman crushes Zod's hand and tosses him against a wall in his Fortress, sending him falling to the crevices below. Non tries to fly, but falls into a hole as well. Finally, Ursa is punched out by Lois, and she joins her companions. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], however, in that at least some TV edits have them found by an arctic patrol team and subsequently arrested, with Luthor joining them after Superman and Lois escort him out of the ruined Fortress of Solitude. It's also subverted in the Donner cut, as Superman goes back in time and prevents the events of the movie from happening in the first place.]]

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: After having their powers drained by red sun radiation, Superman crushes Zod's hand and tosses him against a wall in his Fortress, sending him falling to the crevices below. Non tries to fly, but falls into a hole as well. Finally, Ursa is punched out by Lois, and she joins her companions. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], {{Subverted|Trope}}, however, in that at least some TV edits have them found by an arctic patrol team and subsequently arrested, with Luthor joining them after Superman and Lois escort him out of the ruined Fortress of Solitude. It's also subverted in the Donner cut, as Superman goes back in time and prevents the events of the movie from happening in the first place.]]
26th Jan '16 11:33:51 PM Anicomicgeek
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: After having their powers drained by red sun radiation, Superman crushes Zod's hand and tosses him against a wall in his Fortress, sending him falling to the crevices below. Non tries to fly, but falls into a hole as well. Finally, Ursa is punched out by Lois, and she joins her companions. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], however, in that at least some TV edits have them found by an arctic patrol team and subsequently arrested, with Luthor joining them after Superman and Lois escort him out of the ruined Fortress of Solitude. It's also subverted in the Donner cut, as Superman goes back in time and prevents the events of the movie from happening in the first place.]]

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: After having their powers drained by red sun radiation, Superman crushes Zod's hand and tosses him against a wall in his Fortress, sending him falling to the crevices below. Non tries to fly, but falls into a hole as well. Finally, Ursa is punched out by Lois, and she joins her companions. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], however, in that at least some TV edits have them found by an arctic patrol team and subsequently arrested, with Luthor joining them after Superman and Lois escort him out of the ruined Fortress of Solitude. It's also subverted in the Donner cut, as Superman goes back in time and prevents the events of the movie from happening in the first place.]]
26th Jan '16 11:33:50 PM Anicomicgeek
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: After having their powers drained by red sun radiation, Superman crushes Zod's hand and tosses him against a wall in his Fortress, sending him falling to the crevices below. Non tries to fly, but falls into a hole as well. Finally, Ursa is punched out by Lois, and she joins her companions. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], however, in that at least some TV edits have them found by an arctic patrol team and subsequently arrested, with Luthor joining them after Superman and Lois escort him out of the ruined Fortress of Solitude.]]

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: After having their powers drained by red sun radiation, Superman crushes Zod's hand and tosses him against a wall in his Fortress, sending him falling to the crevices below. Non tries to fly, but falls into a hole as well. Finally, Ursa is punched out by Lois, and she joins her companions. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], however, in that at least some TV edits have them found by an arctic patrol team and subsequently arrested, with Luthor joining them after Superman and Lois escort him out of the ruined Fortress of Solitude. It's also subverted in the Donner cut, as Superman goes back in time and prevents the events of the movie from happening in the first place.]]
26th Jan '16 6:25:57 AM JamesAustin
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** Th powerless Clark Kent goes back to the Fortress of Solitude to beg the spirits of his father Jor-El for help.

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** Th The powerless Clark Kent goes back to the Fortress of Solitude to beg the spirits of his father Jor-El for help.
26th Jan '16 6:24:52 AM JamesAustin
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* The President.

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* ** The President.
26th Jan '16 6:24:10 AM JamesAustin
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* AesopAmnesia
** OK, why is Ms. Tessmacher working for ComicBook/LexLuthor ''again?'' (MoneyDearBoy?)
*** Battered spouse syndrome? Seriously, how many women stay in situations they know are bad because they've convinced themselves they have no other option.
** More importantly, why is Lex ''letting'' her work for him again, after she deliberately foiled his plans?
*** Because Lex's BumblingSidekick, Otis, was stuck in jail along with him, and Ms. Tessmacher was his only resource on the outside to help him escape.
* AesopCollateralDamage: In the Richard Donner cut, Clark regaining his powers leads to effective death of his father. In the DVDCommentary , Donner explained that the Aesop that Clark would pay a significant price for the IJustWantToBeNormal trope. The penalty was incurred by the A.I. version of Jor El.

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* AesopAmnesia
** OK, why is
AesopAmnesia: Ms. Tessmacher is working for ComicBook/LexLuthor ''again?'' (MoneyDearBoy?)
*** Battered spouse syndrome? Seriously, how many women stay in situations they know are bad because they've convinced themselves they have no other option.
** More importantly, why is
''again''. Lex ''letting'' her work for him again, again is in itself another, after she deliberately foiled his plans?
*** Because Lex's BumblingSidekick, Otis, was stuck in jail along with him, and Ms. Tessmacher was his only resource on the outside to help him escape.
plans.
* AesopCollateralDamage: AesopCollateralDamage:
**
In the Richard Donner cut, Clark regaining his powers leads to effective death of his father. In the DVDCommentary , DVDCommentary, Donner explained that the Aesop that Clark would pay a significant price for the IJustWantToBeNormal trope. The penalty was incurred by the A.I. version of Jor El.




* AintTooProudToBeg: The President.
-->"I will kneel before you, if it will save lives."
-->"It will. Starting with your own."

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\n* AintTooProudToBeg: AintTooProudToBeg:
*
The President.
-->"I --->'''President:''' I will kneel before you, if it will save lives."
-->"It
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'''Zod:''' It
will. Starting with your own."



* AliensSpeakingEnglish: While in [[Film/{{Superman}} the first movie]], it was possible that [[TranslationConvention there was a separate Kryptonian language that was conveniently translated for viewers]] and [[TranslatorMicrobes spoke to Kal-El through a translator system]], here the Kryptonian Criminals clearly speak and understand English.

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* AliensSpeakingEnglish: While in [[Film/{{Superman}} [[Film/SupermanTheMovie the first movie]], it was possible that [[TranslationConvention there was a separate Kryptonian language that was conveniently translated for viewers]] and [[TranslatorMicrobes spoke to Kal-El through a translator system]], here the Kryptonian Criminals clearly speak and understand English.
26th Jan '16 6:19:09 AM JamesAustin
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->'''Superman''': ''General, would you care you step outside?''\\
'''Lois Lane''': ''Superman!''\\
'''Lex Luthor''': ''Superman, thank God.'' <<Zod turns to him>> ''I mean, get him!''\\
'''General Zod''': ''Come to me, Son of Jor-El! Kneel before Zod!''

''SupermanII'', the first sequel to ''[[Film/{{Superman}} Superman: The Movie]]'', was released in 1980 (1981 in the US).

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->'''Superman''': ''General, ->'''Superman:''' General, would you care you step outside?''\\
outside?\\
'''Lois Lane''': ''Superman!''\\
Lane:''' Superman!\\
'''Lex Luthor''': ''Superman, Luthor:''' Superman, thank God.'' <<Zod God. ''[Zod turns to him>> ''I him]'' I mean, get him!''\\
him!\\
'''General Zod''': ''Come Zod:''' Come to me, Son of Jor-El! Kneel before Zod!''

''SupermanII'',
Zod!

''Superman II'',
the first sequel to ''[[Film/{{Superman}} Superman: The Movie]]'', ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'', was released in 1980 (1981 in the US).
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