History Film / StarTrekVItheUndiscoveredCountry

24th Sep '16 5:37:36 PM ice
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* RecycledSet: The movie, suffering a budget crisis, extensively reuses ''The Next Generation'' sets. The Observation Lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately ''TNG'' was so wildly popular in 1991, the recycling was all-too-obvious and really hurt the look of the film.

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* RecycledSet: The movie, suffering a budget crisis, extensively reuses ''The Next Generation'' sets. The Observation Lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately ''TNG'' was so wildly popular in 1991, the recycling was all-too-obvious and really hurt the look of the film.very obvious.
24th Sep '16 5:36:32 PM ice
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* RecycledSet: As well as the corridors (first built for ''The Motion Picture'' then used for ''The Next Generation'', then used here), this film- suffering a budget crisis that at one point cancelled it- extensively reuses ''TNG'' sets. The Observation lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately, ''TNG'' was so wildly popular, the recycling is all-too-obvious and really hurts the film.

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* RecycledSet: As well as the corridors (first built for ''The Motion Picture'' then used for The movie, suffering a budget crisis, extensively reuses ''The Next Generation'', then used here), this film- suffering a budget crisis that at one point cancelled it- extensively reuses ''TNG'' Generation'' sets. The Observation lounge Lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately, Unfortunately ''TNG'' was so wildly popular, popular in 1991, the recycling is was all-too-obvious and really hurts hurt the look of the film.
24th Sep '16 5:33:37 PM ice
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* RecycledSet: As well as the corridors (first built for ''The Motion Picture'' then used for ''The Next Generation'', then used here), this film- suffering a budget crisis that at one point cancelled it- extensively reuses ''TNG'' sets. The Observation lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately, ''TNG'' was so wildly popular, the recycling is all-too-obvious and really hurts the film.
24th Sep '16 5:22:49 PM ice
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* ArmorIsUseless: the shields of the ''Enterprise'' don't appear to do very much. Every (single, leisurely-paced) torpedo hit results in masssive hull burns, bridge consoles blow out, "auxilary circuits" are destroyed... a significant time before Scotty calls out "Shields weakening!" A cynic might very well ask, "''What'' shields?"

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* ArmorIsUseless: the The shields of the ''Enterprise'' don't appear to do very much. Every (single, leisurely-paced) torpedo hit results in masssive massive hull burns, burns; bridge consoles blow out, out; and "auxilary circuits" circuits are destroyed...destroyed"... a significant time before Scotty calls out "Shields weakening!" A cynic might very well ask, "''What'' shields?"
24th Sep '16 5:20:30 PM ice
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* ArmorIsUseless: the shields of the ''Enterprise'' don't appear to do very much. Every (single, leisurely-paced) torpedo hit results in masssive hull burns, bridge consoles blow out, "auxilary circuits" are destroyed... a significant time before Scotty calls out "Shields weakening!" A cynic might very well ask, "''What'' shields?"
22nd Aug '16 11:12:18 PM Premonition45
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** During the last scene:
-->'''Uhura:''' Captain, I have orders from Starfleet Command. We're to put back to Spacedock immediately... to be decommissioned.
20th Aug '16 9:51:28 PM TheRoguePenguin
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--->'''Saavik''': You lied?
--->'''Spock''': I exaggerated.

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--->'''Saavik''': You lied?
--->'''Spock''':
lied?\\
'''Spock''':
I exaggerated.



-->'''Kirk:''' An accident wasn't good enough.
-->'''Martia:''' Good enough for one. Two would have looked suspicious. Killed while ''(transforms into Kirk)'' attempting to escape. Now that's convincing for ''both''.

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-->'''Kirk:''' An accident wasn't good enough.
-->'''Martia:'''
enough.\\
'''Martia:'''
Good enough for one. Two would have looked suspicious. Killed while ''(transforms into Kirk)'' attempting to escape. Now that's convincing for ''both''.



-->'''Kirk:''' Still think we're finished?
-->'''Bones:''' ''More than ever''.

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-->'''Kirk:''' --->'''Kirk:''' Still think we're finished?
-->'''Bones:'''
finished?\\
'''Bones:'''
''More than ever''.



-->'''Kirk:''' I can't believe I kissed ''you''!
-->'''Martia (as Kirk):''' [[LargeHam Must have been your life-long ambition!]]

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-->'''Kirk:''' --->'''Kirk:''' I can't believe I kissed ''you''!
-->'''Martia
''you''!\\
'''Martia
(as Kirk):''' [[LargeHam Must have been your life-long ambition!]]



* [[OminousLatinChanting Ominous Klingon Chanting]]

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* [[OminousLatinChanting Ominous Klingon Chanting]]OminousLatinChanting:



--> '''Kirk:''' What's happened?!
--> '''Spock:''' We have fired on the Chancellor's ship!

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--> ---> '''Kirk:''' What's happened?!
-->
happened?!\\
'''Spock:''' We have fired on the Chancellor's ship!






-->'''Kirk:''' They're animals!
-->'''Spock:''' Jim, there is an historic opportunity here.
-->'''Kirk:''' Don't believe them! Don't trust them!
-->'''Spock:''' They're dying.
-->'''Kirk:''' ''Let'' them die!
* RidingIntoTheSunset: In this case, going to warp toward a nearby star.
** Or...Neverland (see below)

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-->'''Kirk:''' They're animals!
-->'''Spock:'''
animals!\\
'''Spock:'''
Jim, there is an historic opportunity here.
-->'''Kirk:'''
here.\\
'''Kirk:'''
Don't believe them! Don't trust them!
-->'''Spock:'''
them!\\
'''Spock:'''
They're dying.
-->'''Kirk:'''
dying.\\
'''Kirk:'''
''Let'' them die!
* RidingIntoTheSunset: In this case, going to warp toward a nearby star.
**
star. Or...Neverland (see below)



-->'''Azetbur:''' What's happened? What's the meaning of all this?
-->'''Kirk:''' It's about the future, Madam Chancellor. Some people think the future means the end of history. But we haven't run out of history just yet. Your father called the future 'the undiscovered country'. People can be very frightened of change.
-->'''Azetbur:''' You've restored my father's faith.
-->'''Kirk:''' And you've restored my son's.

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-->'''Azetbur:''' What's happened? What's the meaning of all this?
-->'''Kirk:'''
this?\\
'''Kirk:'''
It's about the future, Madam Chancellor. Some people think the future means the end of history. But we haven't run out of history just yet. Your father called the future 'the undiscovered country'. People can be very frightened of change.
-->'''Azetbur:'''
change.\\
'''Azetbur:'''
You've restored my father's faith.
-->'''Kirk:'''
faith.\\
'''Kirk:'''
And you've restored my son's.



* ShapeshiftingSquick

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* ShapeshiftingSquickShapeshiftingSquick: Kirk is a little weirded out when the female alien he slept with shows up as a furry male alien.



* TitleDrop: Subtitle Drop. In the ill-fated [[FantasticRacism dinner scene]], Gorkon proposes a toast to "the undiscovered country," earning bemused stares from the audience as well as the main cast before he explains he meant "the future."
** The cause of the confusion is that within the context of {{Hamlet}}'s speech, "the undiscovered country" is ''death''. Which Spock himself [[LampshadeHanging points out]] in the novelization. Gorkon's counter-argument has a good point. And, considering what happens to Gorkon in his next scene, actually makes quite a bit of [[{{Foreshadowing}} sense]].

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* TeleportationRescue: Kirk and [=McCoy=] are saved by the transporters. [[HisNameIs Shame about the timing, though.]]
* TitleDrop: Subtitle Drop. In the ill-fated [[FantasticRacism dinner scene]], Gorkon proposes a toast to "the undiscovered country," earning bemused stares from the audience as well as the main cast before he explains he meant "the future."
**
" The cause of the confusion is that within the context of {{Hamlet}}'s speech, "the undiscovered country" is ''death''. Which Spock himself [[LampshadeHanging points out]] in the novelization. Gorkon's counter-argument has a good point. And, considering what happens to Gorkon in his next scene, actually makes quite a bit of [[{{Foreshadowing}} sense]].
26th Jul '16 12:47:32 PM strejda
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** The Klingons deriding the Federation as [[FantasticRacism racist]] and a "[[HumansAreSuperior Homo Sapiens only]]" club, when they themselves seem to have ''no'' [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse non-Klingons]] from worlds within the Empire serving in the IKF? At most, you could argue that the Klingons make no pretensions about their Klingon supremacy.

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** The Klingons Azetbur deriding the Federation as [[FantasticRacism racist]] and a "[[HumansAreSuperior Homo Sapiens only]]" club, when they Klingons themselves seem to have ''no'' [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse non-Klingons]] from worlds within the Empire serving in the IKF? IKF. At most, you could argue that the Klingons make no pretensions about their Klingon supremacy.
21st Jul '16 4:12:37 AM Random888
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The story that the word "sabotage" comes from Luddites throwing their wooden ''sabot'' shoes into the machinery during the Industrial Revolution is, alas, most likely apocryphal. This is a popular folk etymology, though.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The Valeris repeats as truth the story that the word "sabotage" comes from Luddites throwing their wooden ''sabot'' shoes into the machinery during the Industrial Revolution is, alas, most likely apocryphal. Revolution. This is a popular folk etymology, though.but it is, alas, most likely apocryphal.
21st Jul '16 4:10:00 AM Random888
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The story that the word "sabotage" comes from Luddites throwing their wooden ''sabot'' shoes into the machinery during the Industrial Revolution is, alas, most likely apocryphal. This is a popular folk etymology, though.
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