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30th Mar '16 10:48:59 AM AnotherGuy
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* SlasherSmile: William Shatner gives a great one as Marta!Kirk, when saying "killed trying to escape".
30th Mar '16 6:59:47 AM Berret
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-->'''Martia:''' Good enough for one. Two would have looked suspicious. Killed while ''(transforms into Kirk)'' trying to escape. Now that's convincing for ''both''.

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-->'''Martia:''' Good enough for one. Two would have looked suspicious. Killed while ''(transforms into Kirk)'' trying attempting to escape. Now that's convincing for ''both''.
30th Mar '16 6:23:11 AM Berret
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** Star Trek canon indicates that Klingon was one of the first languages decoded and added to the Universal Translator. By Kirk's era, it's rendered perfectly by the universal translator in almost every circumstance. This means that there's no real need to have an expert aboard for Klingon along. Since Enterprise is on a five year mission to explore strange new worlds and new civilizations, Uhura's job would be to deal with obscure and new languages, so it would make sense if he studies had focused on really bizarre languages, not ones that are commonly studied. To put it in real world terms, if someone was exploring tribal nations in the middle east, we would expect them to learn languages from that area. It wouldn't make sense to expect them to know Spanish even though it is a common language in many parts of the world.

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** Star Trek canon indicates that Klingon was one of the first languages decoded and added to the Universal Translator. By Kirk's era, it's rendered perfectly by the universal translator in almost every circumstance. This means that there's no real need to have an expert aboard for Klingon along. Since Enterprise is on a five year mission to explore strange new worlds and new civilizations, Uhura's job would be to deal with obscure and new languages, so it would make sense if he her studies had focused on really bizarre languages, not ones that are commonly studied. To put it in real world terms, if someone was exploring tribal nations in the middle east, we would expect them to learn languages from that area. It wouldn't make sense to expect them to know Spanish even though it is a common language in many parts of the world.
30th Mar '16 6:17:33 AM Berret
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-->'''Martia:''' Good enough for one. Two would have looked suspicious. Killed while ''(transforms into Kirk)'' attempting escape. Now that's convincing for ''both''.

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-->'''Martia:''' Good enough for one. Two would have looked suspicious. Killed while ''(transforms into Kirk)'' attempting trying to escape. Now that's convincing for ''both''.
30th Mar '16 5:43:04 AM Berret
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* EngineeredPublicConfession: During the trial, Kirk's log entry in which he says "I have never trusted Klingons, and I never will. I've never been able to forgive them for the death of my boy." is presented as proof of his motive for assassinating Gorkon. This fact is later used to incriminate [[spoiler:Valeris as a conspirator, since it was her who was outside his quarters at the time.]]

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* EngineeredPublicConfession: During the trial, Kirk's log entry in which he says "I have never trusted Klingons, and I never will. I've never been able to forgive them for the death of my boy." is presented as proof of his motive for assassinating Gorkon. This fact is later used to incriminate [[spoiler:Valeris as a conspirator, since it was her she who was outside his quarters at the time.]]
5th Mar '16 7:58:10 AM Dragon101
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* BigBadEnsemble: Though Chang acts as the main villain for most of the movie, he's part of a larger conspiracy which includes [[spoiler:Admiral Cartwright, Colonel West and the Romulan Ambassador]].

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* BigBadEnsemble: BigBadDuumvirate: Though Chang acts as the main villain for most of the movie, he's part of a larger conspiracy which includes [[spoiler:Admiral Cartwright, Colonel West and the Romulan Ambassador]].



** Starfleet orders the Enterprise to report back after the assassination, but they are still trying to root out the assassins.

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** Starfleet Starlet orders the Enterprise to report back after the assassination, but they are still trying to root out the assassins.



* TheHeavy: General Chang is the most prominent antagonist for the Enterprise, but he is really only the enforcer of an intergalactic conspiracy, not it's leader. It's not even clear if he is the most highly-ranked Klingon who is party to it, or which side initiated the conspiracy in the first place.



* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Kirk and [=McCoy=] would have never escaped if Chang hadnít ordered the Gulag warden to help them escape. Instead, Kirk and [=McCoy=] would have simply languished in prison, the Enterprise would have been waiting around in Klingon airspace for nothing, the Federation Presidentís assassination would have gone on as planned, and Kang and his crew would have lived ... at least until the Federation-Klingon War.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Kirk and [=McCoy=] would have never escaped if Chang hadnít ordered the Gulag warden to help them escape. Instead, Kirk and [=McCoy=] would have simply languished in prison, the Enterprise would have been waiting around in Klingon airspace for nothing, the Federation Presidentís assassination would have gone on as planned, and Kang Chang and his crew would have lived ... at least until the Federation-Klingon War.
3rd Mar '16 8:05:45 PM MadCat221
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** Spock's plan to [[spoiler: draw out the mole (Valeris) by having a "court reporter" summoned to Sick Bay urgently to take statements from the (actually already dead) assassins Burke and Samno]].

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** Spock's Kirk's plan to [[spoiler: draw out the mole (Valeris) by having a "court reporter" summoned to Sick Bay urgently to take statements from the (actually already dead) assassins Burke and Samno]].
3rd Mar '16 8:04:56 PM MadCat221
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** Kirk's plan to [[spoiler: draw out the mole (Valeris) by having a "court reporter" summoned to Sick Bay urgently to take statements from the (actually already dead) assassins Burke and Samno]].

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** Kirk's Spock's plan to [[spoiler: draw out the mole (Valeris) by having a "court reporter" summoned to Sick Bay urgently to take statements from the (actually already dead) assassins Burke and Samno]].
3rd Mar '16 7:56:14 PM MadCat221
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** A failed Batman Gambit exists in the conspirators' original plan. They were banking on Kirk getting gun-happy after Chang got Kronos One back in fighting shape, shooting back and destroying Kronos One. What happens instead? Kirk [[OutOfCharacterMoment surrenders]] in a hasty attempt to defuse the situation. Chang then has to engage in XanatosSpeedChess to compensate.
3rd Mar '16 5:05:21 PM MadCat221
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-->'''Martia:''' That was not his knee. Not everybody keeps their genitals in the same place, Captain.
-->'''Kirk:''' Anything ''you'' wanna tell me?
-->'''Martia:''' ''(big grin)''

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-->'''Martia:''' That was not his knee. \\
(beat, Kirk and [=McCoy=] look confused)\\
'''Martia:'''
Not everybody keeps their genitals in the same place, Captain.
-->'''Kirk:'''
Captain.\\
'''Kirk:'''
Anything ''you'' wanna tell me?
-->'''Martia:'''
me?\\
'''Martia:'''
''(big grin)''
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