History Film / StarTrekInsurrection

9th Aug '16 9:47:12 PM Tallens
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* ActivationSequence: The Son'a collector's activation process involves deploying large, sail-like structures then firing a probe into the Baku planet's rings to begin drawing in the metaphasic radiation there. We see it three times, first as a simulation Ru'afo is running, second as another simulation to trick Ru'afo into thinking it's been activated, and finally during the climax as Ru'afo and Picard battle inside the thing as it's deploying.
27th Feb '16 10:30:15 AM AnotherGuy
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** Troi saying she's never kissed Riker while he had a beard. Number of times this happened in the series: ''four''[[note]]Yes, two of them involved doubles and mind control, but still...[[/note]]. You'd think at least Frakes (who was also directing, remember) or Sirtis would point this out.

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** Troi saying she's never kissed Riker while he had a beard. Number of times this happened in the series: ''four''[[note]]Yes, two of them involved doubles and mind control, but still...[[/note]]. You'd think at least Frakes (who was also directing, remember) or Sirtis would point this out. Of course, there's kissing and then there's ''kissing''.
27th Feb '16 10:28:22 AM AnotherGuy
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** {{Foreshadowing}}: [[spoiler: Dougherty gets firsthand experience with the machine - fatally.]]
7th Feb '16 6:30:31 PM SithkingZero
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* RedSkiesCrossover: Ru'afo reminds Dougherty of the tough times the Federation has been through lately, what with the Borg, and Cardassians, and the Dominion. Believe it or not, this is one of the few mentions of the Dominion War outside of [=DS9=], and the first reference included in the films. [[note]] Which is sort of understandable--''The Next Generation'' was over by that point, ''Voyager'' was still about forty thousand light years from home, ''Enterprise'' was a prequel series, and the last movie (which ''did'' mention it briefly) happened after the war was over and they had other concerns.[[/note]]
* RecycledPremise: The idea of Starfleet observing a civilization clandestinely using a 'duck blind' was used in TNG's [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E4WhoWatchesTheWatchers third season]], but here the stakes are much more grave.

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* RedSkiesCrossover: Ru'afo reminds Dougherty of the tough times the Federation has been through lately, what with the Borg, and Cardassians, and the Dominion. Believe it or not, this is one of the few mentions of the Dominion War outside of [=DS9=], and the first reference included in the films. [[note]] Which is sort of understandable--''The Next Generation'' was over by that point, ''Voyager'' was still about forty thousand light years from home, ''Enterprise'' was a prequel series, ''First Contact'' had the issue of "The Borg are invading and the last movie rewriting history," so they were too busy there, and ''Nemesis'' (which ''did'' mention it briefly) happened after the war was over and they had other concerns.[[/note]]
* RecycledPremise: The idea of Starfleet observing a civilization clandestinely using a 'duck blind' was used in TNG's [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E4WhoWatchesTheWatchers third season]], but here the stakes are much more grave. The concept of relocating people for political reasons was also explored in the TNG episode "Journey's End."



* VillainsNeverLie: The admiral sided with the Son'a because he felt that the medical benefits that could be gained from exploiting (and destroying) the Ba'ku homeworld could be used to save billions of lives in a war the Federation was losing with the Dominion. Even Jonathan Frakes, as director, and many other members of the case, agreed, though this information came from people who were allies of the Dominion.[[note]]They do at least have the evidence that the planet grants youth to its inhabitants.[[/note]] Though some critics argue that makes it feel like a ham-fisted attempt at making the Son'a unlikeable. It should also be noted that nobody questions the truth of this statement in-universe either.

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* VillainsNeverLie: The admiral sided with the Son'a because he felt that the medical benefits that could be gained from exploiting (and destroying) the Ba'ku homeworld could be used to save billions of lives in a war the Federation was losing with the Dominion. Even Jonathan Frakes, as director, and many other members of the case, cast, agreed, though this information came from people who were allies of the Dominion.[[note]]They do at least have the evidence that the planet grants youth to its inhabitants.[[/note]] Though some critics argue that makes it feel like a ham-fisted attempt at making the Son'a unlikeable. It should also be noted that nobody questions the truth of this statement in-universe either.
19th Jan '16 11:19:18 AM nombretomado
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* OffStageVillainy: The library scene really goes out of its way to make the Son'a unlikeable, with records of conquering and enslaving worlds, drug dealing, and possessing illegal weapons. [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter It makes the Federation look really stupid to have ever turned to them.]] What's especially stupid is that the drug in question is Ketracel White, which is solely used to keep the Jem'Hadar stormtroopers in line, so Dougherty has brokered a deal with a power that is actively supplying the Federation's enemies (later confirmed on an episode of ''[=DS=]9'') and intends to give them a technology that they could just turn around and hand to the Dominion. This is lampshaded when Troi is clearly flabbergasted by the Federation's involvement with them, but the {{Phlebotinum}} is starting to affect her and she's too busy flirting with Riker to take the thought any further. In the [[StarTrekDeepSpaceNineRelaunch Deep Space Nine relaunch novel]] ''Section 31: Abyss'', Commander Vaughn says that the entire operation was organized by Section 31, and when it went bad, Admiral Dougherty was made the fall guy.

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* OffStageVillainy: The library scene really goes out of its way to make the Son'a unlikeable, with records of conquering and enslaving worlds, drug dealing, and possessing illegal weapons. [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter It makes the Federation look really stupid to have ever turned to them.]] What's especially stupid is that the drug in question is Ketracel White, which is solely used to keep the Jem'Hadar stormtroopers in line, so Dougherty has brokered a deal with a power that is actively supplying the Federation's enemies (later confirmed on an episode of ''[=DS=]9'') and intends to give them a technology that they could just turn around and hand to the Dominion. This is lampshaded when Troi is clearly flabbergasted by the Federation's involvement with them, but the {{Phlebotinum}} is starting to affect her and she's too busy flirting with Riker to take the thought any further. In the [[StarTrekDeepSpaceNineRelaunch [[Literature/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineRelaunch Deep Space Nine relaunch novel]] ''Section 31: Abyss'', Commander Vaughn says that the entire operation was organized by Section 31, and when it went bad, Admiral Dougherty was made the fall guy.
29th Dec '15 4:32:17 PM jckgat
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*** In First Contact, his emotion chip was also used against him by the Borg Queen. He probably didn't want to risk being manipulated by it again.
18th Dec '15 9:15:59 PM nombretomado
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-->'''SFDebris''': You gotta admire a guy who who says "screw it, I just wanna be comfortable."

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-->'''SFDebris''': -->'''WebSite/SFDebris''': You gotta admire a guy who who says "screw it, I just wanna be comfortable."
4th Dec '15 7:29:47 AM MagBas
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* BlackAndWhiteMorality: Geordi uses this idea to describe the thought processes going through Data's head after having [[{{Technobabble}} his memory engrams damaged by a phaser blast]]. Which comes across as frightening when one considers that Data attacked Picard and Worf's shuttle, lumping them in with Starfleet as a whole as personnel who would take advantage of his memory loss. It sets up a BlackAndGrayMorality theme for the whole movie (TheFederation attempting to advance medical technology through the harm of the Ba'ku vs. [[spoiler: the Son'a, mostly Ru'afo, seeking revenge on the parents who exiled them from home]]) with the crew of the ''Enterprise'' as the only people trying to settle things reasonably. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny It also sets up how easily music can distract Data after experiencing his equivalent to a concussion.]]

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* BlackAndWhiteMorality: Geordi uses this idea to describe the thought processes going through Data's head after having [[{{Technobabble}} his memory engrams damaged by a phaser blast]]. Which comes across as frightening when one considers that Data attacked Picard and Worf's shuttle, lumping them in with Starfleet as a whole as personnel who would take advantage of his memory loss. It sets up a BlackAndGrayMorality theme for the whole movie (TheFederation attempting to advance medical technology through the harm of the Ba'ku vs. [[spoiler: the Son'a, mostly Ru'afo, seeking revenge on the parents who exiled them from home]]) with the crew of the ''Enterprise'' as the only people trying to settle things reasonably. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny It also sets up how easily music can distract Data after experiencing his equivalent to a concussion.]]



* InformedAttribute: Before they go off to defend the Ba'ku, Data tells the crew, and by extension, the audience, that since he is impervious to the metaphasic radiation's judgement-clouding effects, they should be assured that ''everything'' they do from this point on is indeed morally sound.



* VillainsNeverLie: The admiral ([[RootingForTheEmpire and a lot of viewers]]) sided with the Son'a because he (they) felt that the medical benefits that could be gained from exploiting (and destroying) the Ba'ku homeworld could be used to save billions of lives in a war the Federation was losing with the Dominion. Even Jonathan Frakes, as director, and many other members of the case, agreed, though this information came from people who were allies of the Dominion.[[note]]They do at least have the evidence that the planet grants youth to its inhabitants.[[/note]] Though some critics argue that makes it feel like a ham-fisted attempt at making the Son'a unlikeable. It should also be noted that nobody questions the truth of this statement in-universe either.

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* VillainsNeverLie: The admiral ([[RootingForTheEmpire and a lot of viewers]]) admiral sided with the Son'a because he (they) felt that the medical benefits that could be gained from exploiting (and destroying) the Ba'ku homeworld could be used to save billions of lives in a war the Federation was losing with the Dominion. Even Jonathan Frakes, as director, and many other members of the case, agreed, though this information came from people who were allies of the Dominion.[[note]]They do at least have the evidence that the planet grants youth to its inhabitants.[[/note]] Though some critics argue that makes it feel like a ham-fisted attempt at making the Son'a unlikeable. It should also be noted that nobody questions the truth of this statement in-universe either.
15th Nov '15 1:24:10 PM eroock
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'''''Star Trek: Insurrection''''' is the ninth movie in the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' film series, released in 1998.

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'''''Star ''Star Trek: Insurrection''''' Insurrection'' is the ninth movie in the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' film series, released in 1998.
9th Oct '15 8:08:20 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* VillainsNeverLie: The admiral ([[RootingForTheEmpire and a lot of viewers]]) sided with the Son'a because he (they) felt that the medical benefits that could be gained from exploiting (and destroying) the Ba'ku homeworld could be used to save billions of lives in a war the Federation was losing with the Dominion. Even Jonathan Frakes, as director, and many other members of the case, agreed, though this information came from people who were allies of the Dominion.[[note]]They do at least have the evidence that the planet grants youth to its inhabitants.[[/note]] Though some critics argue that makes it feel like a ham-fisted attempt at making the Son'a unlikeable.

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* VillainsNeverLie: The admiral ([[RootingForTheEmpire and a lot of viewers]]) sided with the Son'a because he (they) felt that the medical benefits that could be gained from exploiting (and destroying) the Ba'ku homeworld could be used to save billions of lives in a war the Federation was losing with the Dominion. Even Jonathan Frakes, as director, and many other members of the case, agreed, though this information came from people who were allies of the Dominion.[[note]]They do at least have the evidence that the planet grants youth to its inhabitants.[[/note]] Though some critics argue that makes it feel like a ham-fisted attempt at making the Son'a unlikeable. It should also be noted that nobody questions the truth of this statement in-universe either.
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