History Film / StarTrekInsurrection

9th Jun '18 11:36:59 PM KJMackley
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* TheWorfEffect: The ''Sovereign''-class starship ''Enterprise-E'', a CoolStarship that almost returned the Borg's collective asses back to them in bite-size pieces single-handedly in its first major battle in ''First Contact'', is now outclassed by two Son'a vessels. Sure, it was flying through a nebula the Son'a ships were adapted to travel in, but even two-to-one the ''Enterprise'' could have put up a better fight than it did. This is made worse when Ru'afo's admittedly smaller ship can't even stop the damaged ''Enterprise'' and is disabled by two precision phaser strikes. The novelization points out Son'a technology is superior to the Federation, they just lack the numbers to be a real menace.

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* TheWorfEffect: The ''Sovereign''-class starship ''Enterprise-E'', a CoolStarship that almost returned the Borg's collective asses back to them in bite-size pieces single-handedly in its first major battle in ''First Contact'', is now outclassed by two Son'a vessels. Sure, it was flying through a nebula the Son'a ships were adapted to travel in, but even two-to-one the ''Enterprise'' could have put up a better fight than it did. This is made worse when Ru'afo's admittedly smaller ship can't even stop the damaged ''Enterprise'' and is disabled by two precision phaser strikes. The film does point out the Son'a are using weaponry that is normally banned via various treaties, and the novelization points out says Son'a technology is superior to the Federation, highly advanced but they just lack the numbers to be a real menace.
27th May '18 5:11:35 PM SuddenFrost
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* ForgottenPhlebotinum: Why is Starfleet committing huge sentient rights violations to gain control of a planet capable of restoring youth, when transporters have been [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E7UnnaturalSelection shown]] -- ''[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E7Rascals twice]]'' -- to be able to restore youth before?
11th May '18 3:09:32 AM MGoblin256
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* CoolStarship: The Son'a starships, especially the [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/4/41/Son%27a_battle_cruiser_CGI_model_by_Santa_Barbara_Studios.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121013183508&path-prefix=en Battlecruiser]] and [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/d/d2/Ru%27afo%27s_flagship_CGI_model_by_Santa_Barbara_Studios.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121008111200&path-prefix=en Command Ship]], are quite unique and impressively designed.
8th May '18 4:13:54 AM SuperEquality07
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Preceded by ''[[Film/StarTrekFirstContact First Contact]]'' and followed by ''Film/StarTrekNemesis''.

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Preceded The movie was released on December 11, 1998 and was preceded by ''[[Film/StarTrekFirstContact First Contact]]'' (1996) and followed by ''Film/StarTrekNemesis''.
''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' in 2002.
17th Apr '18 2:53:54 PM StarTropes
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* ChekhovsLecture: While researching the Son'a, Riker mentions that they've developed illegal subspace weapons. During the battle later on, he observes firsthand exactly why such weapons are banned.


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* NegativeSpaceWedgie: Son'a subspace weapons can create them, one of which nearly destroys the ''Enterprise''.
--> '''Geordi:''' Subspace weapons are unpredictable. That's why they were banned.
22nd Mar '18 12:59:36 AM LtFedora
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* ScreamsLikeaLittleGirl: Ru'afo, when he realizes that his ship is a holodeck program and that the Son'a collector is deactivated.

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* ScreamsLikeaLittleGirl: ScreamsLikeALittleGirl: Ru'afo, when he realizes that his ship is a holodeck program and that the Son'a collector is deactivated.
22nd Jan '18 9:01:34 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The Son'a have the numbers to maintain a small interstellar empire and operate ships equivalent to Federation vessels with crews of several hundred. While the slave races obviously make up some of those numbers they must have had enough to operate those ships to conquer them and garrisons to lock down entire planetary populations. Given the Bak'u remaining are only 600 strong (and many of those children) the original breakaway 'splinter' group would have to have represented the ''vast'' majority of the population. That would explain the small population on the planet, but it makes the Ba'ku successfully driving them into exile even more ridiculous.
21st Jan '18 2:14:17 PM MarcusSLazarus
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** Considering the available context of when they use this ability, it may require a degree of focus and concentration that they can't manage while under fire.


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*** [[spoiler:Could be explained with the theory that the Ba'ku initially kept the technology around as a reminder of what they had rejected, but then used some of it drive the So'na off with the rest and vowed to forsake what was left so that nobody would be tempted like that again.]]


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*** There may have been a couple of hull breaches in other areas.
15th Jan '18 8:47:33 AM StarTropes
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'''Data:''' Saddle up. Lock and load.

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'''Data:''' ''({{beat}})'' Saddle up. ''(grabs a phaser rifle)'' Lock and load.
9th Jan '18 9:28:36 AM OlfinBedwere
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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Not while [[PatrickStewartSpeech Picard yet breathes]], it doesn't!

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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Not Played with; while [[PatrickStewartSpeech Picard yet breathes]], the Federation is willing to relocate the Ba'ku and render their planet uninhabitable in the name of bringing new medical technologies to the Federation, Picard's unspoken argument (made clearer via WordOfGod) is that the Ba'ku's society is ''already'' a utopia, and that the Federation's attempting to destroy it doesn't!justifies his taking up arms against his own superiors.
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