History Film / StarTrekGenerations

24th Apr '17 12:39:44 AM TheRoguePenguin
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* PlotHole: After Geordi is abducted and subsequently rescued, Dr. Crusher mentions removing a nanoprobe from him, which is literally the first and last time this has ever been mentioned. It's an inexplicably-retained artifact of Soren torturing Geordi for information, the nanoprobe being used to stop his heart (hence the "his ''heart'' just wasn't in it" line from Soren).

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* PlotHole: After Geordi is abducted and subsequently rescued, Dr. Crusher mentions removing a nanoprobe from him, which is literally the first and last time this has ever been mentioned. It's an inexplicably-retained artifact of Soren torturing Geordi for information, the nanoprobe being used to stop his heart (hence the "his ''heart'' just wasn't in it" line from Soren). It's retained in the novelization.



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** Trilithium was introduced back in "Starship Mine", as an unstable byproduct of the warp core which could be used as explosive material. Here, the crew treat it as a new discovery and its purpose is completely different.

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** Trilithium resin was introduced back in "Starship Mine", as an unstable byproduct of the warp core which could be used as explosive material. Here, the crew treat it as a new discovery and its purpose is completely different.
23rd Apr '17 8:41:11 AM AlexDKZ
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*** This is made more infuriating by the fact that once the rocket launches, it's visible in the sky for most of that time.
24th Mar '17 1:14:27 PM TruebloodJoe
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** Lursa's child--first mentioned in ''Firstborn''-- is not mentioned at all. It's unknown if he was even born.
29th Jan '17 4:42:02 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* SeriesContinuityError: Scotty witnesses Kirk's death, despite an earlier TNG episode showing him as a HumanPopsicle who immediately assumes Kirk is the one who woke him up. Moore and Braga said that they were well aware of the continuity issue, but just couldn't resist seeing Scotty in action one last time. Becomes FridgeBrilliance if you figure that Scotty made that assumption in "Relics" because he [[NeverFoundTheBody doesn't believe]] Kirk died that day.

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Scotty witnesses Kirk's death, despite an earlier TNG episode showing him as a HumanPopsicle who immediately assumes Kirk is the one who woke him up. Moore and Braga said that they were well aware of the continuity issue, but just couldn't resist seeing Scotty in action one last time. Becomes FridgeBrilliance if you figure that Scotty made that assumption in "Relics" because he [[NeverFoundTheBody doesn't believe]] Kirk died that day.day.
** Trilithium was introduced back in "Starship Mine", as an unstable byproduct of the warp core which could be used as explosive material. Here, the crew treat it as a new discovery and its purpose is completely different.
10th Jan '17 7:21:15 PM Blazer
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* ThisIsGonnaSuck: Riker roaring out "ALL HANDS, BRACE FOR IMPACT!" [[spoiler:as the ''Enterprise''-D's saucer section prepares to hit land. This was going to be a bumpy ride.]]
27th Dec '16 4:29:38 PM TinMan
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* DroppedABridgeOnHim: The TropeNamer itself. In fact, it doesn't just literally apply to [[spoiler:James T. Kirk]]; in the way we've defined this trope, the deaths of Robert and Rene Picard are examples too. Ironically, [[spoiler:Kirk]]'s death was a reshoot from one that was poorly received by test groups where he just takes a blast to the back and dies.

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* DroppedABridgeOnHim: The TropeNamer itself. In fact, it doesn't just literally apply to [[spoiler:James T. Kirk]]; in the way we've defined this trope, the deaths of Robert and Rene Picard are examples too. Ironically, [[spoiler:Kirk]]'s death was a reshoot from one that was poorly received by test groups where he just takes a blast to the back and dies. Also, the ''Enterprise''-D herself, being taken out by a ship that by all rights shouldn't have posed a threat to the flagship of the Federation.
5th Dec '16 2:09:23 PM sabremeister
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It's shortly after the end of the ''Next Generation'' TV series, which ended its run just before this film was released. Our baddie is Dr. Soran (Creator/MalcolmMcDowell), a MadScientist with a malicious agenda reaching back seventy-eight years to when he was [[UnwantedRescue "saved"]] from [[LotusEaterMachine the Nexus]] by Kirk, who then disappeared into it himself and [[NotQuiteDead was presumed dead]]. Soran now plans to blow up a couple suns to get back into the Nexus, but Picard gets Kirk to leave the Nexus and join him for a bridge-dropping climax.

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It's shortly after the end of the ''Next Generation'' TV series, which ended its run just before this film was released. Our baddie is Dr. Soran (Creator/MalcolmMcDowell), a MadScientist with a malicious agenda reaching back seventy-eight years to when he was [[UnwantedRescue "saved"]] from [[LotusEaterMachine the Nexus]] by Kirk, who then disappeared into it himself and [[NotQuiteDead was presumed dead]]. Soran now plans to blow up a couple of suns to get back into the Nexus, but Picard gets Kirk to leave the Nexus and join him for a bridge-dropping climax.



* RocketlessReentry: The film opens with Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov space diving just because they're bored.

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* RocketlessReentry: The film opens would have originally opened with Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov space diving orbital skydiving just because they're bored.
23rd Nov '16 1:12:48 PM IlGreven
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** It could also have been the fact that the 'B wasn't fully equipped to handle anything. This was its shakedown cruise, and everything important wasn't going to be installed until Tuesday. Harriman didn't get really flustered until he found out that all the options he knew were unavailable to him because the ship wasn't ready to help out. At which point he asked Kirk to help him.
30th Oct '16 3:54:04 PM psionycx
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* [[ForgottenFallenFriend Forgotten Fallen Child]]: Kirk expresses shock that Sulu has a grown daughter, wondering when he had time what with his career. This is meant to emphasize Kirk's own [[HollywoodMidlifeCrisis angst about getting older]]. But it neglects the fact that Kirk himself had a son who was old enough to have gotten a doctorate, became a research scientist and was killed by Klingons years earlier. To be fair to Kirk, he hadn't known his son for most of his life, just briefly during the whole 'Genesis' issue. Hell until the incident he hadn't even known he had a son.

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* [[ForgottenFallenFriend Forgotten Fallen Child]]: Kirk expresses shock that Sulu has a grown daughter, wondering when he had time what with his career. This is meant to emphasize Kirk's own [[HollywoodMidlifeCrisis angst about getting older]]. But it neglects the fact that Kirk himself had a son who was old enough to have gotten a doctorate, became a research scientist and was killed by Klingons years earlier. To be fair to Kirk, he hadn't known his son for most of his life, just briefly during the whole 'Genesis' issue. Hell until the incident he hadn't even known he had a son.
23rd Oct '16 11:40:14 PM RoseUnity
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: The Captain of the Enterprise-B is clearly in over his head and does not know how to proceed when an actual emergency occurs. Kirk is shown as wanting to intervene and take over, but restrains himself because he's not the Captain of the Enterprise-B and simply tries to give quiet advice under his breath to the Captain in order to not be seen undermining him. The problem is, ''people are dying.'' Kirk is an Starfleet Admiral with decades of experience, and would have been perfectly justified to immediately relieve the Captain at the first sign that he wasn't up to the task and focus on saving as many lives as he could. In any military, senior officers are ''expected'' to immediately relieve anyone who can't accomplish the mission. Sure, the Captain of the Enterprise-B was shown as a decent, responsible individual who simply lacked the necessary experience, but if that was the case, ''he never should have been put in command of a starship in the first place.'' Kirk should have immediately recognized this and taken over right away.

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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: The Captain of the Enterprise-B is clearly in over his head and does not know how to proceed when an actual emergency occurs. Kirk is shown as wanting to intervene and take over, but restrains himself because he's not the Captain of the Enterprise-B and simply tries to give quiet advice under his breath to the Captain in order to not be seen undermining him. The problem is, ''people are dying.'' Kirk is an Starfleet Admiral with decades of experience, and would have been perfectly justified to immediately relieve the Captain at the first sign that he wasn't up to the task and focus on saving as many lives as he could. In any military, senior officers are ''expected'' to immediately relieve anyone who can't accomplish the mission. Sure, the Captain of the Enterprise-B was shown as a decent, responsible individual who simply lacked the necessary experience, but if that was the case, ''he never should have been put in command of a starship in the first place.'' Kirk should have immediately recognized this and taken over right away. It might be ''somewhat'' [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because they comment in the beginning Kirk is retired. Uniform or not, he's just a passenger and a guest.



* [[ForgottenFallenFriend Forgotten Fallen Child]]: Kirk expresses shock that Sulu has a grown daughter, wondering when he had time what with his career. This is meant to emphasize Kirk's own [[HollywoodMidlifeCrisis angst about getting older]]. But it neglects the fact that Kirk himself had a son who was old enough to have gotten a doctorate, became a research scientist and was killed by Klingons years earlier.

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* [[ForgottenFallenFriend Forgotten Fallen Child]]: Kirk expresses shock that Sulu has a grown daughter, wondering when he had time what with his career. This is meant to emphasize Kirk's own [[HollywoodMidlifeCrisis angst about getting older]]. But it neglects the fact that Kirk himself had a son who was old enough to have gotten a doctorate, became a research scientist and was killed by Klingons years earlier. To be fair to Kirk, he hadn't known his son for most of his life, just briefly during the whole 'Genesis' issue. Hell until the incident he hadn't even known he had a son.
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