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24th May '17 8:18:39 PM JulianLapostat
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** Culturally, the characters seem to be tied in a fifties' time-warp, with very few characters using the internet, Emo!Peter's idea of cool being based on ''Film/{{Grease}}'', MJ singing at a Jazz-bar and being a struggling access in respectable work at Broadway rather than avant-garde work or musicals, or off-broadway work, or experimental films. MJ is a struggling actress ''in New York'' rather than on the West Coast, and being one in the former means a lot of niche-work.

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** Culturally, the characters seem to be tied in a fifties' time-warp, with very few characters using the internet, Emo!Peter's idea of cool being based on ''Film/{{Grease}}'', MJ singing at a Jazz-bar and being a struggling access in respectable actress trying to work at in Broadway rather than avant-garde work or musicals, or off-broadway work, or experimental films. MJ is a struggling actress ''in New York'' rather than on the West Coast, and being one in the former means a lot of niche-work.niche-work to make ends meet.
22nd Apr '17 4:02:34 PM Golondrina
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A trilogy of SuperHero films starring Creator/TobeyMaguire as the Creator/MarvelComics superhero [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Spider-Man]] running from 2002 to 2007. They include ''Film/SpiderMan1'', ''Film/SpiderMan2'', and ''Film/SpiderMan3''. All were directed by Creator/SamRaimi of ''Franchise/EvilDead'' fame. Also stars Creator/KirstenDunst as Mary Jane Watson, James Franco as Harry Osborn, JKSimmons as J. Jonah Jameson, and Creator/BruceCampbell in various cameos.

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A trilogy of SuperHero films starring Creator/TobeyMaguire as the Creator/MarvelComics superhero [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Spider-Man]] running from 2002 to 2007. They include ''Film/SpiderMan1'', ''Film/SpiderMan2'', and ''Film/SpiderMan3''. All were directed by Creator/SamRaimi of ''Franchise/EvilDead'' fame. Also stars Creator/KirstenDunst as Mary Jane Watson, James Franco as Harry Osborn, JKSimmons Creator/JKSimmons as J. Jonah Jameson, and Creator/BruceCampbell in various cameos.
12th Mar '17 3:41:12 PM JulianLapostat
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** In terms of overall story, the film's focus on LoveDodecahedron for its dramatic tension draws squarely from the soap opera of the Lee-Romita years, rather than the bildungsroman[=/=]science-fiction of the original stories, or the more weirder and complicated runs in later Spider-Man arcs. Most notably Peter's personal involvement with his villains, either knowing them before transformation (Dr. Octopus, Eddie Brock, Flint Marko) or being connected to them personally (Norman Osborn) came from this era, whereas in the earlier stories, Peter dnection to any of these villains.

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** In terms of overall story, the film's focus on LoveDodecahedron for its dramatic tension draws squarely from the soap opera of the Lee-Romita years, rather than the bildungsroman[=/=]science-fiction of the original stories, or the more weirder and complicated runs in later Spider-Man arcs. Most notably Peter's personal involvement with his villains, either knowing them before transformation (Dr. Octopus, Eddie Brock, Flint Marko) or being connected to them personally (Norman Osborn) came from this era, whereas in the earlier stories, Peter dnection did not have any connection to any of these villains.
12th Mar '17 3:38:13 PM JulianLapostat
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* BigApplesauce: There's no Spider-Man without New York. One thing noted by a few observers, such as ''Cinema Sins'' is the film's depiction of the city actually plucks elements from different eras, with a lot of elements from TheFifties and TheSixties (the decades where Spider-Man was first published).
** The [[http://nypost.com/2015/01/16/60-years-after-its-demise-rare-videos-reveal-third-avenue-elevated-line/ elevated train battle]], a famous scene in ''Spider-Man 2'', raised eyebrows because there hasn't been any elevated trains in New York and certainly not Manhattan since TheFifties.
** Likewise, the film visually and in terms of its costumes is set towards the end of TheNineties and the start of TheOughties, by which time New York had been gentrified, and yet the film still has scenes such as the moment in ''2'' where a temporarily depowered Peter sees a mugging in broad-daylight. As noted, this was something that could have worked in TheBigRottenApple era but it would not have flown in contemporary New York.
** Culturally, the characters seem to be tied in a fifties' time-warp, with very few characters using the internet, Emo!Peter's idea of cool being based on ''Film/{{Grease}}'', MJ singing at a Jazz-bar and being a struggling access in respectable work at Broadway rather than avant-garde work or musicals, or off-broadway work, or experimental films. MJ is a struggling actress ''in New York'' rather than on the West Coast, and being one in the former means a lot of niche-work.
3rd Mar '17 11:49:10 AM phylos
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Highly successful in both the critical and box-office record departments, along with the ''Film/XMen'' trilogy these movies paved the way for the Superhero movie boom leading to the Film/MarvelCinematicUniverse and Film/TheDarkKnightSaga.

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Highly successful in both the critical and box-office record departments, along with these movies helped cement the Superhero movie boom by proving that ''Film/XMen'' trilogy these movies paved the way for the Superhero movie boom before it hadn't been a one-time charm; leading to the Film/MarvelCinematicUniverse and Film/TheDarkKnightSaga.
29th Jan '17 3:46:03 PM JulianLapostat
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** Tobey Maguire is visually the original Creator/SteveDitko Spider-Man, small, scrawny and awkward. However, his friendship with Harry Osborn is taken from the ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan comics and draws from the Romita years.
** Mary-Jane Watson is more or less a CompositeCharacter of several of Peter's girlfriends (Herself, Liz Allan, Betty Brant and aspects of Gwen Stacy). At school, she creates a charismatic and cheerful girl who is popular, but at home, she is a slightly troubled girl coping with resentment and trauma (an aspect of her character that was explored in later years of the Spider-Man comics).
** In terms of overall story, the film's focus on LoveDodecahedron for its dramatic tension draws squarely from the soap opera of the Lee-Romita years, rather than the bildungsroman[=/=]science-fiction of the original stories, or the more weirder and complicated runs in later Spider-Man arcs. Most notably Peter's personal involvement with his villains, either knowing them before transformation (Dr. Octopus, Eddie Brock, Flint Marko) or being connected to them personally (Norman Osborn) came from this era, whereas in the earlier stories, Peter had no connection to any of these villains.

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** Tobey Maguire is visually the original Creator/SteveDitko Spider-Man, Spider-Man: small, scrawny and awkward. However, his friendship with Harry Osborn is taken from the ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan comics and draws from the Romita years.
** Mary-Jane Watson is more or less a CompositeCharacter of several of Peter's girlfriends (Herself, Liz Allan, Betty Brant and aspects of Gwen Stacy). At school, she creates She is initially Flash Thompson's and Harry Osborn's girlfriend (much like Liz Allan was) and outwardly is a charming and charismatic and cheerful girl who is popular, but while balancing at home, she is home a slightly troubled girl coping with resentment and trauma family background (an aspect of her character that was explored in later years of the Spider-Man comics). Her overall serious and melancholy nature is very much Gwen Stacy rather than the immensely cheerful MJ of the early comics (who more or less lightened up Peter's mood and that of the overall dark tone of the comics).
** In terms of overall story, the film's focus on LoveDodecahedron for its dramatic tension draws squarely from the soap opera of the Lee-Romita years, rather than the bildungsroman[=/=]science-fiction of the original stories, or the more weirder and complicated runs in later Spider-Man arcs. Most notably Peter's personal involvement with his villains, either knowing them before transformation (Dr. Octopus, Eddie Brock, Flint Marko) or being connected to them personally (Norman Osborn) came from this era, whereas in the earlier stories, Peter had no connection dnection to any of these villains.
24th Dec '16 2:38:54 AM McSkywalker
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* FemaleGaze: Well, of course. We're talking about a muscular young dude who wears a skintight outfit and is unbelievable agile.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: In the first film Harry Osborn says of his father "If I'm lucky I'll be half the man he was". Come the third movie, we find out what exactly is meant by this. There are other foreshadowing moments involving Harry, such as the green bowtie he wears during the wedding scene in 2, and [[spoiler: "They're my best friends ... I'd give my life for them"]].

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* FemaleGaze: Well, of course. We're talking about a muscular young dude who wears a skintight outfit and is unbelievable unbelievably agile.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: In the first film Harry Osborn says of his father "If I'm lucky I'll be half the man he was". Come the third movie, we find out what exactly is meant by this. There are other foreshadowing moments involving Harry, such as the green bowtie bow tie he wears during the wedding scene in 2, and [[spoiler: "They're my best friends ... I'd give my life for them"]].



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Doc Ock and Harry]] in the second and third movies repectively. Both are also a [[spoiler: HeelFaceTurn]].

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Doc Ock and Harry]] in the second and third movies repectively.respectively. Both are also a [[spoiler: HeelFaceTurn]].



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold/[[EvenEvilHasStandards Even A Jerk Has Standards]]: J. Jonah Jameson, the man who has no problem defaming Spider-Man for the sake of eye-catching headlines, lies to the face of the Green Goblin so as to protect Peter. The novelization looks deeper into his motives: Jameson always protects his sources, and has gone to jail twice for doing so in the past. In the third movie, he's furious that Eddie Brock gave him fake photographs of Spiderman, commenting that "We haven't printed a retraction in twenty years!" Not only did he fire Brock, but additionally had him shamed on the front page alongside the retraction.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold/[[EvenEvilHasStandards Even A Jerk Has Standards]]: J. Jonah Jameson, the man who has no problem defaming Spider-Man for the sake of eye-catching headlines, lies to the face of the Green Goblin so as to protect Peter. The novelization looks deeper into his motives: Jameson always protects his sources, and has gone to jail twice for doing so in the past. In the third movie, he's furious that Eddie Brock gave him fake photographs of Spiderman, Spider-Man, commenting that "We haven't printed a retraction in twenty years!" Not only did he fire Brock, but additionally had him shamed on the front page alongside the retraction.
9th Dec '16 6:51:39 PM AP
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** Mary-Jane Watson is more or less a CompositeCharacter of several of Peter's girlfriends (Herself, Liz Allan, Betty Brant and aspects of Gwen Stacy) with [[AdaptationPersonalityChange a personality that is almost entirely different]] from her comics counterpart. She's less a charismatic and cheerful girl who adds levity to Peter's life while bravely dealing with her private baggage than a slightly troubled girl coping with resentment and trauma (from her abusive family and bad relationships).
** In terms of overall story, the film's focus on LoveDodecahedron for its dramatic tension draws squarely from the soap opera of the Lee-Romita years, rather than the bildungsroman[=/=]science-fiction of the original stories, or the more weirder and complicated runs in later Spider-Man arcs. Most notably Peter's personal involvement with his villains, either knowing them before transformation (Dr. Octopus, Eddie Brock, Flint Marko) or being connected to them personally (Norman Osborn) came from this era, whereas in the earlier stories, Peter had no connection to any of these villains.

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** Mary-Jane Watson is more or less a CompositeCharacter of several of Peter's girlfriends (Herself, Liz Allan, Betty Brant and aspects of Gwen Stacy) with [[AdaptationPersonalityChange a personality that is almost entirely different]] from her comics counterpart. She's less Stacy). At school, she creates a charismatic and cheerful girl who adds levity to Peter's life while bravely dealing with her private baggage than is popular, but at home, she is a slightly troubled girl coping with resentment and trauma (from (an aspect of her abusive family and bad relationships).character that was explored in later years of the Spider-Man comics).
** In terms of overall story, the film's focus on LoveDodecahedron for its dramatic tension draws squarely from the soap opera of the Lee-Romita years, rather than the bildungsroman[=/=]science-fiction of the original stories, or the more weirder and complicated runs in later Spider-Man arcs. Most notably Peter's personal involvement with his villains, either knowing them before transformation (Dr. Octopus, Eddie Brock, Flint Marko) or being connected to them personally (Norman Osborn) came from this era, whereas in the earlier stories, Peter had no connection to any of these villains.
22nd Nov '16 5:14:47 AM Dreadjaws
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22nd Nov '16 5:13:28 AM Dreadjaws
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* NoSympathy: Mary Jane rather infamously gives this to Peter on more than one occasion. In the first movie, when Peter beats up the bullies, she merely walks away in disgust -- despite him visibly only doing so in self-defense. And throughout the second, she gives him some WhatTheHellHero treatment for repeatedly missing her play -- sure, she doesn't know that he's Spider-Man [[spoiler:(yet, though at the end she does say she think she knew, which actually makes her previous behavior even worse)]]; however, not only does she indeed know that he's borderline impoverished and busy fighting an uphill battle trying to juggle work and college (even one of which, realistically, would make it pretty difficult for anyone to be able to go to such a high-class event), but he actually does manage to make it anyway at one point (only to be denied entry due to being too late to be seated) in front of an usher who could easily verify his whereabouts for MJ.

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* NoSympathy: Mary Jane rather infamously gives this to Peter on more than one occasion. In the first movie, when Peter beats up the bullies, she merely walks away in disgust -- despite him visibly only doing so in self-defense. And throughout the second, she gives him some WhatTheHellHero treatment for repeatedly missing her play -- sure, she doesn't know that he's Spider-Man [[spoiler:(yet, though at the end she does say she think thinks she knew, which actually makes her previous behavior even worse)]]; however, not only does she indeed know that he's borderline impoverished and busy fighting an uphill battle trying to juggle work and college (even one of which, realistically, would make it pretty difficult for anyone to be able to go to such a high-class event), but he actually does manage to make it anyway at one point (only to be denied entry due to being too late to be seated) in front of an usher who could easily verify his whereabouts for MJ.
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