History Film / SpiderMan2

17th Feb '18 12:04:44 PM Nadim
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* BeQuietNudge: When Peter and Aunt May are at a bank discussing with the teller about their account, Peter actually mentions May's piano lessons. May tries to shut him up by kicking him under the table, but misses and kicks the bank teller instead.
3rd Feb '18 9:54:25 AM ThatTwerp
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* DigitalDestruction: The color grading on the film's Blu-ray is drastically different from how it looked in its original theatrical release as well as on DVD. This was fixed with the 2013 "Mastered In [=4K=]" Blu-ray edition of the film, which features the correct color timing as well as a more detailed image; though this edition has unfortunately gone out-of-print in the United States.

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* DigitalDestruction: The color grading on the film's Blu-ray is drastically different from how it looked in its original theatrical release as well as on DVD. This was fixed with the 2013 "Mastered In [=4K=]" Blu-ray edition of the film, which features the correct color timing as well as a more detailed image; DVD, though this edition has unfortunately gone out-of-print was later fixed in the United States.4K Ultra HD release.
16th Dec '17 11:51:07 AM dmcreif
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** When a Daily Bugle newspaper flies at the screen, informing viewers of Spider-Man's return, one of the other news items reads, "MTA Insider concerned over aging El-Train Safety." Turns out their concerns are justified.

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** When a Daily Bugle newspaper flies at the screen, informing viewers of Spider-Man's return, screen after Peter steals his costume back from Jameson, one of the other news items in the top right corner reads, "MTA Insider concerned over aging El-Train Safety." Turns out their concerns are justified.This immediately leads into Spidey and Ock's train fight.
3rd Nov '17 8:10:15 AM dmcreif
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* [[ThirtyMinutesOrItsFree Twenty Nine Minutes Or It's Free]]: Played straight with the opening sequence

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* SocietyMarchesOn: In this day and age, unmasked Spider-Man on the train would probably gain a few of the passengers posting a photo of him on social media.
* [[ThirtyMinutesOrItsFree Twenty Nine Minutes Or It's Free]]: Played straight The movie opens with Peter being forced by his overbearing but reasonable boss at the opening sequencepizza parlor to make a delivery over a large distance in a very short time period due to showing up tardy. Peter tries to speed through heavy New York City traffic on his motorcycle, but eventually gives up trying to fight the cars and quickly transforms into Spider-Man to travel the rest of the way (in the process making a quick detour to stop two kids from getting struck by a truck). He still ends up late and gets canned on his return.
2nd Nov '17 8:43:57 PM dmcreif
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** In the opening scene, when Peter is late for his pizza delivery job because of a disturbance, we learn that the disturbance came from a man on a construction site nearly crushed by a falling girder.
** Mary-Jane met John Jameson at Enriques, the diner MJ worked at in the first film. A trucker pinched her bottom and she dumped a plate of spaghetti in his lap. When Enrique demanded she apologise, she was thinking of caving in when John stepped in. His car battery had died, and he was waiting for a tow-truck. He pretended to be an FBI agent causing Enrique to back down, and MJ quit her job. They started seeing each other not long after.

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** In the opening scene, when Peter is late for his pizza delivery job because of a disturbance, we learn that the disturbance came from a man on at a construction site nearly crushed by a falling girder.
** Mary-Jane met John Jameson at Enriques, the diner MJ she worked at in the first film. A trucker pinched her bottom and she dumped a plate of spaghetti in his lap. When Enrique demanded she apologise, apologize, she was thinking of caving in when John stepped in. His car battery had died, and he was waiting for a tow-truck. He pretended to be an FBI agent causing Enrique to back down, and MJ quit her job. They started seeing each other not long after.



** Although Jameson is ecstatic that Spider-Man has given up, in the novelization he's secretly not that happy about it, because Spider-Man sells more editions of the Daily Bugle than any other celebrity, and now that he's gone, sales figures for the Bugle have gone into a tailspin.

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** Although Jameson is ecstatic that Spider-Man has given up, in the novelization he's secretly not that happy about it, because Spider-Man sells more editions copies of the Daily Bugle ''Bugle'' than any other celebrity, and now that he's gone, sales figures for the Bugle have gone into a tailspin.



** Hoffman is the ad manager for the Daily Bugle. That would explain why Jameson is always asking him to patent names for supervillains invented by the Bugle.
** Betty Brant ensures the bum is paid more for the Spidey suit than Jameson was willing to shell out. In a scene omitted from the film, the night staff at the Bugle say that Jameson wears the suit, striking mock heroic poses when he thought no-one was watching. He even walked onto his desk, sticking paper clips to a lamp like it were webbing. Also, the DA's office want the suit to verify it's the real thing, but Jameson won't hear of it.

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** Hoffman is the ad manager for the Daily Bugle. That would explain ''Daily Bugle''. This is why Jameson is always asking him to patent names for supervillains invented by the Bugle.
Bugle. The third film more firmly established this on-camera.
** Betty Brant ensures the bum garbageman is paid more for the Spidey suit than Jameson was willing to shell out. In a scene omitted from the film, film but restored in the extended cut, the night staff at the Bugle ''Bugle'' say that Jameson wears the suit, striking mock heroic poses when he thought no-one was thinks no-one's watching. He even walked walks onto his desk, sticking paper clips to a lamp like it were webbing. Also, the DA's office want the suit to verify it's the real thing, but Jameson won't hear of it.



* AntiClimacticUnmasking: Played straight and then averted. [[spoiler:The first time Peter loses his mask, the crowd of people don't know who he is. The second and third time it's taken off, Harry, Dr. Octavius, and Mary Jane recognize him.]]

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* AntiClimacticUnmasking: Played straight and then averted. [[spoiler:The first time [[spoiler:When Peter loses takes off his mask, mask on the crowd of people train, the passengers don't know who he is. The second and third time it's taken off, Harry, Dr. Octavius, and Mary Jane recognize him.]]



* ArtisticLicenseGeography: The train fight between Spidey and Doc Ock takes place on an elevated line in Manhattan, when in reality, all of the elevated lines south of 125th Street were dismantled by the 1950s. The sequence itself was therefore filmed in Chicago as their 'L' system still has extensive elevated trackage downtown. Despite dressing up a train of old 2200 series cars and refitting some 'L' stations with appropriate signage, you can still see station platform signs for Clark / Lake on the Green, Brown, Pink, Orange and Purple Lines in one shot.

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: The train fight between Spidey and Doc Ock takes place on an elevated line in Manhattan, when in reality, all of the elevated lines south of 125th Street were dismantled by the 1950s. The sequence itself was therefore actually filmed in Chicago as their 'L' system still has extensive elevated trackage downtown. Despite dressing up a train of old 2200 series cars and refitting some 'L' stations with appropriate signage, you can still see station platform signs for Clark / Lake on the Green, Brown, Pink, Orange and Purple Lines in one shot.are visible as the two foes are getting their footing.



* BankToaster: A MorallyBankruptBanker, on top of denying Aunt May and Peter Parker a loan, denies them a coupon for a free toaster! Because of a certain minimum deposit that is required.

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* BankToaster: A MorallyBankruptBanker, on top of denying Aunt May and Peter Parker a loan, denies them a coupon for a free toaster! Because toaster, because of a certain minimum deposit that is required.



* BilingualBonus: Right after Peter successfully dodges Mr. Ditkovich while on his way to MJ's play, Mr. Ditkovich turns and says something in Russian to Ursula. When translated, he says, "Idiot! Why are guys like that even born?"

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* BilingualBonus: Right after Peter successfully dodges Mr. Ditkovich while on his way to MJ's play, Mr. Ditkovich turns and says something in Russian to Ursula. When translated, he says, Ursula, "Idiot! Why are guys like that even born?"



* BladeBelowTheShoulder: The tentacles have a blade inside them. Which is odd, if you think about it, since the tentacles were built for experiments, not combat.

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* BladeBelowTheShoulder: The Octavius's tentacles have a blade inside them. Which is odd, if you think about it, since the tentacles were built for experiments, not combat.



* BondOneLiner: To make a temporary escape from Spidey, Octavius uses one of his tentacles to open up the train's throttle to maximum speed, then rips it out and tosses the handle to Spidey.
-->'''Otto Octavius:''' You have a train to catch! ''[jumps off the train onto the side of a nearby building]''



* EvilBrit: Averted. Alfred Molina is English, but played Otto with an American accent so as not to make him too ObviouslyEvil.

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* EvilBrit: Averted. Alfred Molina is English, but played Otto with an American accent so as not to make him too ObviouslyEvil. Even then, [[OohMeAccentsSlipping Molina's native accent does slip through at times]].



--> '''J. Jonah Jameson:''' Spider-Man...was a hero. I just couldn't see it. He was a...[looks to see that Spider-Man has stolen back the suit]...A THIEF! A criminal! He stole my suit! He's a menace to the entire city! I want the wall-crawling arachnid prosecuted! I want him strung up by his web! [[SkywardScream I WANT SPIDER-MAN!!!]]

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--> '''J. Jonah Jameson:''' Spider-Man...was a hero. I just couldn't see it. He was a...[looks to see that Spider-Man has stolen back the suit]...A THIEF! A criminal! CRIMINAL! He stole my suit! He's a menace to the entire city! I want the wall-crawling arachnid prosecuted! PROSECUTED! I want him strung up by his web! [[SkywardScream I WANT SPIDER-MAN!!!]]






* IronicEcho: In a blink-and-you-miss-it shot, after Peter tries to maintain a "strong focus on what I want" and jump from one building to another, his powers give out in midair and he comes crashing to the ground, and throws his back out... and we see that the car he landed on was a Ford '''Focus.'''
* JustTrainWrong: The 'L' train fight between Peter and Octavius could never happen in real life for a number of reasons.

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* IronicEcho: In a blink-and-you-miss-it shot, after Peter tries to maintain a "strong focus on what I want" and jump from one building to another, his powers give out in midair and he comes crashing to the ground, and throws his back out... and we see that the car he landed on was a Ford '''Focus.'''
Focus.
* JustTrainWrong: The 'L' How do we describe the train fight between Peter and Octavius could never happen in real life for a number of reasons. fight?



** The train is signed as an '''R''' train. The tracks shown in the movie dead-end in Lower Manhattan. The real '''R''' train never goes above ground[[note]]except whenever service disruptions reroute trains over the Manhattan Bridge[[/note]], and its termini are in Queens and Brooklyn.
** There are no New York City Subway cars in active service that have blinker doors. All cars on the active fleet have sliding doors.
** The reason for all of this is because the sequence itself was actually shot in Chicago on their [[UsefulNotes/ChicagoL 'L' system]], using a train of (now-retired) 2200 series cars.

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** The train is signed as an '''R''' train. The tracks shown in the movie dead-end in Lower Manhattan. The real '''R''' train never goes above ground[[note]]except whenever ground, unless service disruptions reroute trains it over the Manhattan Bridge[[/note]], Bridge, and its termini are in Queens and Brooklyn.
** There are no New York City Subway cars in active service that have blinker doors. All cars on the active fleet have sliding doors.
doors. Even if there were blinker door cars, they'd have to be paired with a set of cars that have sliding doors to maintain ADA compliance.
** The reason for all of this is because For the record, the sequence itself was actually shot in on the Chicago on their [[UsefulNotes/ChicagoL 'L' system]], using a train of (now-retired) 2200 series cars.



* MeaningfulName: "Guy named Otto Octavius winds up with eight limbs? What are the odds?"

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* MeaningfulName: "Guy A guy named Otto Octavius winds up with eight limbs? limbs. [[LampshadeHanging What are the odds?"odds?]]



* RealityEnsues: The train passengers Spider-man saved tell Doc Ock he'll have to [[GoThroughMe go through them]] to get at him. He agrees and shoves them all aside with his super strong robotic arms. It looks like Spidey could get a YouCanBarelyStand moment however he's far too weak after having stopped the train, and is knocked out by a single hit to the head.
* ReCut: An extended cut of the film, titled ''Spider-Man 2.1'', was released in 2007. The cut contains 8 minutes of extra scenes, as well as some alternate takes of scenes that were in the theatrical cut (such as the elevator scene).

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* RealityEnsues: The train passengers Spider-man saved tell Doc Ock he'll have to [[GoThroughMe go through them]] to get at him. He agrees and shoves them all aside with his super strong robotic arms. It looks like Spidey could get a YouCanBarelyStand moment however he's far too weak after having stopped the train, and is knocked out by a single hit to the head.
* ReCut: An extended cut of the film, titled ''Spider-Man 2.1'', was released in 2007. The cut contains 8 minutes of extra scenes, as well as some alternate takes of scenes that were in the theatrical cut (such as the elevator scene).scene, a scene of J. Jonah Jameson romping around on his desk in the Spider-Man suit, or some extra footage in the train fight).
2nd Nov '17 5:49:15 PM dmcreif
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* ArtisticLicensePhysics: As pointed out in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG9AeEdmXiE this video]], after Doc Ock throws Spider-Man forward, Spidey somehow slows down in midair so he can tackle Ock from behind.

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* ArtisticLicensePhysics: As ArtisticLicensePhysics:
**When Peter is rescuing the baby from the burning building, there is no smoke from the fire, when there should be black smoke billowing out the windows. He wouldn't be able to just stand up and walk through the building. But in order for the scene to play out on camera, the area is smoke free. A fire in an apartment or office building will include combusting of large amounts of plastics (computers and so on). So unless there is nothing but alcohols in the building there will be immense amounts of smoke pouring out the windows.
**As
pointed out in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG9AeEdmXiE this video]], after Doc Ock throws Spider-Man forward, forward on the train, Spidey somehow slows down in midair so he can tackle Ock from behind.



** Peter does this earlier in the film, when ''sans'' powers, he runs into a burning building to rescue a trapped child. He gets her out safely, but unfortunately, then finds out that there were more people trapped on the fourth floor that didn't make it.

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** Peter does this earlier in the film, when ''sans'' powers, he runs into a burning building to rescue a trapped child. He gets her out safely, but unfortunately, then finds out that there were more people was someone else trapped on the fourth floor that didn't make it.died.
1st Nov '17 5:21:14 PM dmcreif
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* BadVibrations: Octavius generally makes his presence known by loud thuds from his tentacles long before he generally shows himself.



--> '''J. Jonah Jameson:''' Spider-Man...was a hero. I just couldn't see it. He was a...[looks to see that Spider-Man has stolen back the suit]...a thief! A criminal! He stole my suit! He's a menace to the entire city! I want the wall-crawling arachnid prosecuted! I want him strung up by his web! I WANT SPIDER-MAN!!!

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--> '''J. Jonah Jameson:''' Spider-Man...was a hero. I just couldn't see it. He was a...[looks to see that Spider-Man has stolen back the suit]...a thief! A THIEF! A criminal! He stole my suit! He's a menace to the entire city! I want the wall-crawling arachnid prosecuted! I want him strung up by his web! [[SkywardScream I WANT SPIDER-MAN!!! SPIDER-MAN!!!]]



**Octavius's appearance at the cafe, where a series of loud stomps from his tentacles precedes his appearance, echoes the first appearance of the T-rex from ''Film/JurassicPark''.



* SkywardScream: "I WANT SPIDER-MAN!"

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* SkywardScream: Jonah bellows "I WANT SPIDER-MAN!"SPIDER-MAN!" when Spidey steals back his suit.



* {{Unobtainium}}: Oscorp's tritium.
** Although it is an unusual example, since tritium is a real substance and is used in some fusion experiments. However, real tritium is nothing like the substance portrayed in the movie, and it effectively functions as Unobtainium that just happens to have a semi-accurate name.

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* {{Unobtainium}}: Oscorp's tritium.
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tritium. Although it is an unusual example, since tritium is a real substance and is used in some fusion experiments. However, real tritium is nothing like the substance portrayed in the movie, and it effectively functions as Unobtainium that just happens to have a semi-accurate name.



* VisualGag: A subtle one. In the scene where Peter is [spoiler]trying to get his powers back[/spoiler], he tells himself "focus on what you want." After jumping off a building, but then failing and falling to the ground, landing on a car, as he gets up, he is standing next to a Ford Focus, with the word Focus clearly in the shot.

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* VisualGag: A subtle one. In the scene where Peter is [spoiler]trying to get his powers back[/spoiler], he tells himself "focus on what you want." After jumping off a building, but then failing and falling to the ground, landing on a car, as he gets up, he is standing next to a parked Ford Focus, with the word Focus clearly in the shot.
30th Oct '17 11:34:41 PM dmcreif
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: The train fight between Spidey and Doc Ock takes place on an elevated line in Manhattan, when in reality, all of the elevated lines south of 125th Street were dismantled by the 1950s. The sequence itself was therefore filmed in Chicago as their 'L' system still has extensive elevated trackage downtown. Despite dressing up a train of old 2200 series cars and refitting some 'L' stations with appropriate signage, you can still see station platform signs for Clark / Lake on the Green, Brown, Pink, Orange and Purple Lines in one shot.
11th Oct '17 9:50:23 PM Nadim
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* NeverMyFault: Doctor Octavious is convinced that Spider-Man is responsible for his wife's death when it was really his own expirement that got her killed.
30th Sep '17 5:14:23 PM FGHIK
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* TheAllegedHouse: Peter Parker's apartment is one of these. It's small, it's ugly, and the door sticks. Presumably this is because he went with the cheapest option, being stuck in PerpetualPoverty (not that it stops [[CrankyLandlord Mr. Ditkovich]] from taking most money Peter can get).
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