History Film / Seabiscuit

4th Sep '16 12:58:56 AM Doodler
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* WeightWoe: Very much not PlayedForLaughs, as Red and the other jockeys have eating disorders forced on them by their employers to keep them at the ideal weight for riding. Part of the reason Red warms to Howard is that Howard lets him eat.
3rd Sep '16 9:49:29 AM Wilderstorm
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: After Red blows Seabiscuit's first race because he took the bait of a jokey who cut him off, he stubbornly and angrily defends his position by constantly asking, "What was I supposed to do?!" Howard goes quiet, then gently asks him, "Son, what are you so mad about?" Red is then forced to confront his repressed rage at being abandoned by his parents, and he's much happier for it for the rest of the movie.

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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: After Red blows Seabiscuit's first race because he took the bait of a jokey who cut by losing focus after another jockey cuts him off, he stubbornly and angrily defends his position by constantly asking, "What was I supposed to do?!" Howard goes quiet, then gently asks him, "Son, what are you so mad about?" Red is then forced to confront his repressed rage at being abandoned by his parents, and he's much happier for it for the rest of the movie.



-->'''Howard''' (''laughing''): I don't know what's worse! A horse that's too small, a jokey that's too tall, a trainer that's too old, and I'm too dumb to know the difference!

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-->'''Howard''' (''laughing''): I don't know what's worse! A Our horse that's is too small, a jokey that's our jockey's too tall, a trainer that's big, our trainer's too old, and I'm too dumb to know the difference!
3rd Sep '16 9:45:55 AM Wilderstorm
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*** It is also urban legend that Biscuit was held back to give other horses ego trips. A racehorse trainer (especially one as good as Jim Fitzsimmons) would never sabotage one owner's horse to benefit another, that's how you lose clients ''and'' your reputation. Biscuit lost races and trained poorly because he was sour and refused to cooperate.
28th May '16 7:09:07 PM Give1Take2
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* ArcWords: Take a shot every time Howard, or someone in his presence, uses the words "The future!"
* ArmorPiercingQuestion: After Red blows Seabiscuit's first race because he took the bait of a jokey who cut him off, he stubbornly and angrily defends his position by constantly asking, "What was I supposed to do?!" Howard goes quiet, then gently asks him, "Son, what are you so mad about?" Red is then forced to confront his repressed rage at being abandoned by his parents, and he's much happier for it for the rest of the movie.
* BirdsOfAFeather: Red Pollard and Seabiscuit. Two used and abused misfits who angry at the world for how it mistreated them, now out to show the world what they can accomplish.


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* EndOfAnAge: The Wild West being fenced off and cattle herding falling out of favor due to the rapid transport of the steam engine is what forces Tom Smith to give up his idyllic cowboy lifestyle to become a horse trainer, eventually leading him to Charles C. Howard and Seabiscuit.
* FromNobodyToNightmare: Bet War Admiral's trainer wishes he'd taken their offer for a match race back when they were still green, rather than waiting till Seabiscuit had become a nation-wide phenomenon with enough victories under his hooves to break the Admiral completely.
* TheGreatDepression: The Stock Market crashing is what sets off the plot.
* ItsAllMyFault: Implied for Charles regarding his son's death. In the film, Charles pressures his young son to drive down to the lake to go fishing instead of staying home reading. His son initially declines, but eventually does so to make him happy, then ends up in a fatal accident. Charles cannot be thinking anything but this as he cradles his son's lifeless body.
* MeaningfulEcho: "You don't throw a whole life away just 'cause it got banged up a bit." First said by Tom Smith to Charles Howard to explain why he saved the live of a race horse with a bum leg just because he can't race anymore, later said by Charles to Tom to explain [[spoiler:why they should give Red another chance, even though he lied to them about having a bum eye]].


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* NewTechnologyIsEvil: While not evil per se, the film likes to show how the popularity of bicycles and automobiles just cannot match the enrichment that working with horses bring to people's lives. For instance, Howard's investment in automotive manufacturing leads to his downfall when the Stock Market crashes, and leads to the death of his son when the kid goes out driving in a truck, whereas investing in horse racing with Seabiscuit gives him the will to live again.
* OutlivingOnesOffspring: Charles Howard's son dies in a truck crash. It's the final straw that breaks the back of his already strained first marriage, sets him into a deep depression, and causes him to give up bicycles and automobiles in favor of horses again.


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* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: Played up in the film, though certainly true by traditional horseracing standards. Charles C. Howard even uses this to get good press.
-->'''Howard''' (''laughing''): I don't know what's worse! A horse that's too small, a jokey that's too tall, a trainer that's too old, and I'm too dumb to know the difference!


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* SlobsVersesSnobs: Seabiscuit and his trainers (from the rough and roughed Western horse racing style) verses War Admiral and his trainers (from the clean and pristine Eastern horse racing tradition).
* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Refreshingly averted. The film takes artistic liberties here and there, especially to make the characters look more sympathetic (see RealityIsUnrealistic / MoodyMount above), but for the most part it stays true to life. If anything, they ''downplayed'' some of the fantastic events of the real story!
4th Mar '16 8:56:05 PM Mdumas43073
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'''''Seabiscuit''''' is a 2003 film about the racehorse of the same name.

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'''''Seabiscuit''''' ''Seabiscuit'' is a 2003 film about the racehorse of the same name.
25th Oct '14 4:39:14 PM Miriam
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* ParentalAbandonment: Red's career starts when his parents, who are broke and unable to support all their children, abandon him to a small-time horse trainer. The reality was less harsh, as Red stayed in touch with his parents and helped them financially once riding Seabiscuit began to pay off.
12th Aug '14 10:14:22 PM KYCubbie
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* TheDayTheMusicLied: During the historic match race against War Admiral, Seabiscuit jumps out to an early lead. [[spoiler:After a while, though, he begins to slow, accompanied by mournful music, allowing War Admiral to catch up. But Seabiscuit slowing was a BatmanGambit on the part of his jockey, George Woolf, and (injured) regular jockey, Red Pollard, who knew that the horse would push himself harder if the other horse was matching his speed. It worked, and Seabiscuit won.]] This was, as Laura Hillenbrand's book described, TruthInTelevision (well, except for the music).

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* TheDayTheMusicLied: During the historic match race against War Admiral, Seabiscuit jumps out to an early lead. [[spoiler:After a while, though, he begins to slow, accompanied by mournful music, allowing War Admiral to catch up. But Seabiscuit slowing was a BatmanGambit on the part of his jockey, George Woolf, and (injured) regular jockey, Red Pollard, who knew that the horse would push himself harder if the other horse was matching his speed. It worked, and Seabiscuit won.]] This was, as Laura Hillenbrand's book described, TruthInTelevision (well, except for the music).
12th Aug '14 10:13:44 PM KYCubbie
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*** Though physically this is ArtisticLicense on the part of the filmmakers. In reality, and in Hildebrandt's book, War Admiral was a short solid bay--in other words not unlike his closely-bred cousin Seabiscuit, but with a lighter frame.

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*** Though physically this is ArtisticLicense on the part of the filmmakers. In reality, and in Hildebrandt's Laura Hillenbrand's original book, War Admiral was a short solid bay--in other words not unlike his closely-bred cousin Seabiscuit, but with a lighter frame.
12th Jul '14 5:31:42 AM Katsuhagi
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* RealityIsUnrealistic / MoodyMount: Interviews with some of the crew reveal that they actually toned down the bad behavior of the real Seabiscuit, which is well documented, out of fear the audience would think they made it up for the movie.

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* RealityIsUnrealistic / MoodyMount: Interviews with some of the crew reveal that they actually toned down the bad behavior of the real Seabiscuit, which is well documented, out of fear the audience would think they made it up for the movie.movie and/or [[RuleOfFunny for laughs]].
30th May '14 1:27:59 PM vals1girl
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* CastTheExpert: George "the Iceman" Woolf is played by Gary Stevens, a real-life Kentucky Derby-winning jockey.


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***Though physically this is ArtisticLicense on the part of the filmmakers. In reality, and in Hildebrandt's book, War Admiral was a short solid bay--in other words not unlike his closely-bred cousin Seabiscuit, but with a lighter frame.
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