History Film / SantaClausTheMovie

16th Feb '17 7:58:09 PM evilwillhunting
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* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Dooley and Patch tend to repeat their own phrases in inverse order. ("I'm sure they're fine and dandy, dandy and fine!")
27th Dec '16 3:20:31 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Even by the somewhat nonsensical standards of the movie's second half, The Patchmobile Launch is patently bizarre. From the silly launch sequence, to B.Z. and staff cheering Patch ENTIRELY too long for the segment, to Patch yelling "YAHOO!" as he launches (in a voice completely different than Moore's, and utterly out of character for the low key inventor elf)... it's just a very, very surreal sequence to observe.
14th Dec '16 7:47:06 AM Chariset
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* SavingChristmas

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* SavingChristmasSavingChristmas: Averted, believe it or not. The main plot of the second act is to rescue a stray elf from the consequences of his actions after Christmas went awry six months ago.
14th Dec '16 7:42:02 AM Chariset
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* BetaOutfit: The elves make his suit, but MrsClaus doesn't think green works. When red is suggested, everyone enthusiastic, as it goes with Santa's rosy cheeks.

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* BetaOutfit: The elves make his suit, but MrsClaus doesn't think green works. When red is suggested, everyone enthusiastic, is enthusiastic (except for another elf who suggested 'brown'), as it goes with Santa's rosy cheeks.



* BilledAboveTheTitle: David Huddleston doesn't get it, but it's justified here, as part of the original marketing (such as the original making-of program shown on ABC in the lead-up to the movie's release) stressed that Santa Claus was essentially playing himself, and that no actor could do him justice. And though his billing isn't at the top of the cast list proper, he ''is'' the first performer listed/shown in the end credits.
* BrokenAesop: Puffy's approach (quality with careful craftsmanship) is shown to be superior to Patch's approach (mass production with no quality control), yet Patch is couched as the hero, and Puffy as a minor antagonist.

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* BilledAboveTheTitle: David Huddleston doesn't get it, but it's justified here, as part of justified, since the original marketing (such as the original making-of program shown on ABC in the lead-up film was initially marketed to the movie's release) stressed suggest that Santa Claus [[AsHimself was essentially playing himself, and that himself]], since no actor could do him justice. And though his billing isn't at the top of the cast list proper, he Huddleston ''is'' the first performer listed/shown in the end credits.
* BrokenAesop: Puffy's approach (quality with careful craftsmanship) is shown to be superior to Patch's approach (mass production with no quality control), yet Patch is couched as the a plucky hero, and Puffy as is a stick-in-the-mud minor antagonist.



* DisneyVillainDeath: Inverted. [[spoiler:B.Z. instead flies up to his doom after eating the candy canes to evade the police.]]

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* DisneyVillainDeath: Inverted. [[spoiler:B.Z. instead flies up to his doom after eating the candy canes to evade the police.]]



* EvilUncle: B.Z. to Cornelia, sort of. He treats her pretty well, but he is evil and her uncle. She notes in her first scene, before their relationship is revealed, that she doesn't see him much ("He probably doesn't know what grade I'm in").
** It's also played with in that he's not related to her by blood, but is her step-uncle.

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* EvilUncle: B.Z. to Cornelia, sort of. is Cornelia's step-uncle. He treats her pretty well, but he is evil and her uncle. She notes in her first scene, before their relationship is revealed, that she doesn't see him seem to care much about her. ("He probably doesn't know what grade I'm in").
** It's also played with in that he's not related to her by blood, but is her step-uncle.
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* FishOutOfWater: Patch, in New York.

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* FishOutOfWater: Patch, Patch in New York.



* KarmaHoudini: When you get down to it, Patch is to blame for the catastrophic Christmas delivery and somewhat to blame for the mess caused in the second half of the movie. Yet he's never punished for any of it.

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* KarmaHoudini: When you get down to it, Patch is to blame responsible for the catastrophic Christmas delivery and somewhat to blame for the mess caused in the second half of the movie. Yet movie, but he's never punished for any of it.EasilyForgiven.



* MadeOfExplodium: The second batch of candy canes, if they get too hot (owing to the larger quantity of stardust, which is best kept cold, in them).
* MrsClaus

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* MadeOfExplodium: The second batch of candy canes, canes contain a large quantity of volatile stardust and will explode if they get too hot (owing to the larger quantity of stardust, which is best kept cold, in them).
hot.
* MrsClausMrsClaus: In this adaptation, Claus and Anya are an elderly couple without children before they become Santa and Mrs. Claus.



* NeverTrustATrailer: Opening with an iconic view of Capitol Hill, the British trailer for this movie makes it seem like a story about corporate corruption and politics, with Santa having a minor part at best. (By comparison, the full-length U.S. trailer presents it as the cinematic-''Film/{{Superman}}''-meets-Christmas adventure (It actually is.)
* NewTechnologyIsEvil: Mass-producing toys is bad for elves to do.
** It could just as easily be seen as a lesson on the need for consistent quality control practices and machinery maintenance.

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* NeverTrustATrailer: Opening with an iconic view of Capitol Hill, the British trailer for this movie makes it seem like a story about corporate corruption and politics, with Santa having a minor part at best. (By comparison, the full-length U.S. trailer presents it as the cinematic-''Film/{{Superman}}''-meets-Christmas adventure (It it actually is.)
* NewTechnologyIsEvil: Mass-producing toys The elves' first foray into mass production is bad for elves to do.
** It could just as easily be seen as
a lesson on the need for consistent quality control practices and machinery maintenance.disaster.


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* SantaClausmas: Christmas is all about the sacred duty of Santa to give toys to children. There are hints that toymaking is a religion in itself to the elves, but the religious meaning of Christmas itself is omitted.
18th Nov '16 12:01:27 PM Movienut376
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** If nothing else, given all the legal troubles B.Z. was facing to begin with, Cornelia probably had the police's attention the minute she mentioned him.
13th Oct '16 8:35:35 PM dieseldragons
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* KnightInSourArmor: Santa starts to become [[TurnOfTheMillennium disillusioned by the progress of time]]. Depressed that Christmas has lost a lot of its magic and sanctity [[TimeMarchesOn over the years]]. People lack any goodwill towards one another, and the [[CrappyHolidays holiday season seems to now bring out the worst]] in them. Children don't appreciate the hard work his elves [[DoingItForTheArt put into their gifts]]. Mrs Claus reminds them of their purpose [[GoodOldWays and reason for being]]. But this development/story arc cannot be addressed properly, [[HalfwayPlotSwitch due to Patch running off]].
22nd Mar '16 10:01:04 AM XFllo
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A 1985 film from the producers of the first three ''Film/{{Superman}}'' movies (and the director of ''{{Film/Supergirl}}''), starring Creator/DudleyMoore as one of Santa's elves and Creator/JohnLithgow as a CorruptCorporateExecutive who seeks to commercialize Santa's Christmas magic. [[Film/TheBigLebowski David Huddleston]] is Santa, but doesn't get [[BilledAboveTheTitle above-the-title billing]] despite playing the title character. The film's first act presents an origin story for Santa and proceeds to follow the growth of his legend over the centuries. The remainder of the film takes place in the PresentDay. While Santa befriends a StreetUrchin and a SpoiledSweet girl in New York City, the aforementioned elf Patch -- after screwing up one Christmas with an ill-fated attempt to bring an automated production system to the workshop -- heads to the Big Apple himself and falls in with the sinister toy mogul B.Z.

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A 1985 film from the producers of the first three ''Film/{{Superman}}'' movies (and the director of ''{{Film/Supergirl}}''), starring Creator/DudleyMoore as one of Santa's elves and Creator/JohnLithgow as a CorruptCorporateExecutive who seeks to commercialize Santa's Christmas magic. [[Film/TheBigLebowski David Huddleston]] is Santa, but doesn't get [[BilledAboveTheTitle above-the-title billing]] despite playing the title character. The film's first act presents an origin story for Santa and proceeds to follow the growth of his legend over the centuries. The remainder of the film takes place in the PresentDay. While Santa befriends a StreetUrchin and a SpoiledSweet another girl in New York City, the aforementioned elf Patch -- after screwing up one Christmas with an ill-fated attempt to bring an automated production system to the workshop -- heads to the Big Apple himself and falls in with the sinister toy mogul B.Z.



* SpoiledSweet: Cornelia.



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24th Dec '15 3:58:13 PM MrChips2301
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: B.Z. exclaims "shit!" under his breath when Joe bites him near the end of the film. Presumably this wasn't audible enough to be considered a problem or noticed by the censors, but it's easier to tell on the home video releases where it can be rewound.
20th Dec '15 5:45:28 PM evilwillhunting
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Even by the somewhat nonsensical standards of the movie's second half, The Patchmobile Launch is patently bizarre. From the silly launch sequence, to B.Z. and staff cheering Patch ENTIRELY too long for the segment, to Patch yelling "YAHOO!" as he launches (in a voice completely different than Moore's, and utterly out of character for the low key inventor elf)... it's just a very, very surreal sequence to observe.
16th Dec '15 10:47:58 AM esq263
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* HollywoodLaw: B.Z. Plans to flee to Brazil to escape prosecution, given that Brazil had no extradition treaty with the U.S.. Two problems: 1) At the time of the movie, Brazil had an extradition treaty with the U.S. for twenty years (and, for the present-day sequence, this is not meant to be a PeriodPiece); and 2) lack of an extradition treaty doesn't prevent a country from voluntarily extradititing a fugitive, particularly if the fugitive is a foreign national (and if the U.S. puts on the pressure).

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* HollywoodLaw: B.Z. Plans plans to flee to Brazil to escape prosecution, given that Brazil had no extradition treaty with the U.S.. Two problems: 1) At the time of the movie, Brazil had an extradition treaty with the U.S. for twenty years (and, for the present-day sequence, this is not meant to be a PeriodPiece); and 2) lack of an extradition treaty doesn't prevent a country from voluntarily extradititing a fugitive, particularly if the fugitive is a foreign national (and if the U.S. puts on the pressure).
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