History Film / RyanVsDorkman

29th May '16 1:14:43 PM eroock
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'''''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloquially known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot;]] it is the standard fan film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'etre.]] As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real world clothing and battle in real world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).

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'''''Ryan ''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' Dorkman'' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloquially known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot;]] it is the standard fan film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'etre.]] As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real world clothing and battle in real world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).
1st Mar '16 9:21:38 PM spirasen
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Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott, both considering a submission to the very first Lightsaber Choreography Competition at the forums of [[http://www.theforce.net TheForce.net]], a ''Franchise/StarWars'' FanSite, developed a rivalry over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry. [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ "Ryan vs. Dorkman"]] was the result.

'''''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloquially known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot]]; it is the standard fan-film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'être]]. As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real-world clothing and battle in real-world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).

A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2''. The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional-grade UsefulNotes/HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award-winning) FX career for Wieber.

The pair have expressed interest in continuing the series, but [[DevelopmentHell are holding off]] until they can think of new and creative ways to continue the SequelEscalation. In the meantime, these films are free to watch/download from [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ the official RvD website]]. Ryan Wieber has also gone on to work with Brandon Flyte, another lightsaber enthusiast, in the similarly-named and similarly-styled [[http://youtu.be/kq4Ej9KpQhg Ryan]] vs. [[http://youtu.be/pfa-Pa5IQLg Brandon]] shorts. All four were submitted to various Lightsaber Choreo Competitions (they're running #11 right now) and won their years.

In true StarWars fashion, the original [=RvD=] was {{remaster}}ed by Wieber himself. The effects were updated and uploaded on a higher quality video transfer, as the original was heavily compressed for internet distribution. Wieber also gives a rundown of the changes on the website.

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Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott, both considering a submission to the very first Lightsaber Choreography Competition at the forums of [[http://www.theforce.net TheForce.net]], net,]] a ''Franchise/StarWars'' FanSite, Fan Site, developed a rivalry over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry. [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ "Ryan vs. Dorkman"]] was the result.

'''''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloquially known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot]]; plot;]] it is the standard fan-film fan film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'être]]. d'etre.]] As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real-world real world clothing and battle in real-world real world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).

A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2''. 2.'' The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional-grade professional grade UsefulNotes/HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award-winning) award winning) FX career for Wieber.

The pair have expressed interest in continuing the series, but [[DevelopmentHell are holding off]] until they can think of new and creative ways to continue the SequelEscalation. In the meantime, these films are free to watch/download watch / download from [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ the official RvD website]]. website.]] Ryan Wieber has also gone on to work with Brandon Flyte, another lightsaber enthusiast, in the similarly-named similarly named and similarly-styled similarly styled [[http://youtu.be/kq4Ej9KpQhg Ryan]] vs. [[http://youtu.be/pfa-Pa5IQLg Brandon]] shorts. All four were submitted to various Lightsaber Choreo Competitions (they're running #11 right now) and won their years.

In true StarWars Star Wars fashion, the original [=RvD=] was {{remaster}}ed by Wieber himself. The effects were updated and uploaded on a higher quality video transfer, as the original was heavily compressed for internet distribution. Wieber also gives a rundown of the changes on the website.

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* CombatPragmatist: Typically played straight, but spoofed on one occasion: after [[spoiler:they both drop their sabers, they square off for a fistfight]], but then [[spoiler:just turn around and Force-grab their sabers]]. The reason for this is [[spoiler:they didn't have time to choreograph a fistfight]], so they added this moment as a gag.

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* CombatPragmatist: Typically played straight, but spoofed on one occasion: after [[spoiler:they both drop their sabers, they square off for a fistfight]], but then [[spoiler:just turn around and Force-grab their sabers]]. The reason for this is [[spoiler:they [[spoiler: they didn't have time to choreograph a fistfight]], so they added this moment as a gag.



** Ryan at least has the excuse of having clones. (He's actually lost ''every'' duel he's ever been in, except for his out-of-nowhere cameo in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAkul_fGW0 Alex vs Nate 2]].)

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** Ryan at least has the excuse of having clones. (He's actually lost ''every'' duel he's ever been in, except for his out-of-nowhere cameo in [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAkul_fGW0 Alex vs vs. Nate 2]].)2.]])



** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had, but weren't able to implement or had been [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].

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** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had, but weren't able to implement or had been [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].rejected.]]



* TookALevelInBadass: While he was certainly no slouch in the first film, Ryan in [=RvD2=] appears much more confident and in control. Must be [[BeardOfEvil the goatee]].

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* TookALevelInBadass: While he was certainly no slouch in the first film, Ryan in [=RvD2=] appears much more confident and in control. Must be [[BeardOfEvil the goatee]].goatee.]]
20th Jan '16 1:48:25 PM maximsk
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* BulletHolesAndRevelations: At the end of [=RvB2=].
15th Nov '15 12:49:48 AM maximsk
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* {{Flynning}}
** Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.

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{{Flynning}}: Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.
15th Nov '15 12:49:22 AM maximsk
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** That Flynning isn't good sword technique is demonstrated at the end of [=RVD2=]: with no need to block a strike aimed solely at his lightsaber, Ryan merely dodges it and gets in a free hit.
4th Sep '15 7:50:55 AM Chessanator
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** That Flynning isn't good sword technique is demonstrated at the end of [=RVD2=]: with no need to block a strike aimed solely at his lightsaber, Ryan merely dodges it and gets in a free hit.
30th Apr '15 3:50:14 PM nombretomado
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A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2''. The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional-grade HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award-winning) FX career for Wieber.

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A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2''. The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional-grade HighDefinition UsefulNotes/HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award-winning) FX career for Wieber.
20th Jun '14 3:41:51 AM Alhazred
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* HateSink: Ryan has [[GoodHairEvilHair evil facial hair]] and outright tortures Dorkman so the audience will think he's a JerkAss, thus making his death satisfying.



* LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted: Other than lightsabers and Force powers, these films take place in the real world.

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* LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted: Other than lightsabers and Force powers, these films take place in the real world. They briefly considered having costumes, but felt it would ultimately be distracting given the real world backdrops.



* RealLifeWritesThePlot: The locations are places they had easy access to. The second one, a tortilla factory, was offered for use by a fan.
* RunningGag: Ryan always loses.



** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had, but weren't not able to implement or had [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].

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** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had, but weren't not able to implement or had been [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].
16th Apr '14 5:13:59 PM Eaglelander
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* {{Flynning}}: Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.

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Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.
16th Apr '14 5:13:15 PM Eaglelander
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* {{Flynning}}

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* {{Flynning}}{{Flynning}}: Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.
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