History Film / RedDawn2012

1st Dec '17 12:16:49 AM BNSF1995
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: For the plot to even begin it relies on the MST3KMantra to make the invasion of any amount of continental American territory by North Korean forces militarily possible. Even with their EMP weaponry and Chinese and Russian assistance, the logistics to make such a thing possible are simply well beyond feasibility for them, even if they managed to completely elude any American detection of their preparations. In addtion to that, any foreign invasion of the United States would be met with a massive nuclear strike to destroy enemy command centers and war industry, as well as kill civilians to deprive the enemy of manpower.

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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: For the plot to even begin it relies on the MST3KMantra to make the invasion of any amount of continental American territory by North Korean forces militarily possible. Even with their EMP weaponry and Chinese and Russian assistance, the logistics to make such a thing possible are simply well beyond feasibility for them, even if they managed to completely elude any American detection of their preparations. Not even China nor Russia could effectively invade the United States, since they'd have to cross the ocean to do so, and even then, the American mainland is too heavily defended (and citizens themselves own weapons) that it would be a massive failure that could ruin China and/or Russia militarily, economically, and morally. In addtion to that, any foreign invasion of the United States would be met with a massive nuclear strike to destroy enemy command centers and war industry, as well as kill civilians to deprive the enemy of manpower.
18th Sep '17 12:51:54 PM SeptimusHeap
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** Immediately before the North Korean paratroopers invade, we get a close-up shot of a snow globe of [[WorldInConflict Seattle]].

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** Immediately before the North Korean paratroopers invade, we get a close-up shot of a snow globe of [[WorldInConflict [[VideoGame/WorldInConflict Seattle]].
12th Sep '17 7:45:49 AM Kalmbach
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* ShoutOut: The remake features several nods to the original, such as the scene where the Eckert brothers convince Robert to drink deer blood (although the remake puts a hilarious twist on that scene), and listening to Radio Free America where the announcer says "John has a long mustache" (itself a ShoutOut to ''Film/TheLongestDay'' and "the chair is against the wall." And the paratroopers descending from the sky.

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* ShoutOut: The remake features several nods to the original, such as the scene where the Eckert brothers convince Robert to drink deer blood (although the remake puts a hilarious twist on that scene), and listening to Radio Free America where the announcer says "John has a long mustache" (itself a ShoutOut to ''Film/TheLongestDay'' ''Film/TheLongestDay'') and "the chair is against the wall." And the paratroopers descending from the sky.
12th Sep '17 7:43:15 AM Kalmbach
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* ShoutOut: The remake features several nods to the original, such as the scene where the Eckert brothers convince Robert to drink deer blood (although the remake puts a hilarious twist on that scene), and listening to Radio Free America where the announcer says "John has a long mustache" and "the chair is against the wall." And the paratroopers descending from the sky.

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* ShoutOut: The remake features several nods to the original, such as the scene where the Eckert brothers convince Robert to drink deer blood (although the remake puts a hilarious twist on that scene), and listening to Radio Free America where the announcer says "John has a long mustache" (itself a ShoutOut to ''Film/TheLongestDay'' and "the chair is against the wall." And the paratroopers descending from the sky.
25th Aug '17 2:40:18 AM Hjortron18
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The [[UsefulNotes/NorthKoreansWithNodongs North Korean military]] has invaded the town of Spokane, Washington with the help of EMP weaponry. After seeing his father executed by [[BigBad Captain Cho]] (Will Yun Lee), Iraq veteran Jed Eckert (ChrisHemsworth) joins up with his younger brother Matt (Josh Peck) and several of his high school classmates to form the Wolverines, a guerrilla resistance group.

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The [[UsefulNotes/NorthKoreansWithNodongs North Korean military]] has invaded the town of Spokane, Washington with the help of EMP weaponry. After seeing his father executed by [[BigBad Captain Cho]] (Will Yun Lee), Iraq veteran Jed Eckert (ChrisHemsworth) (Creator/ChrisHemsworth) joins up with his younger brother Matt (Josh Peck) and several of his high school classmates to form the Wolverines, a guerrilla resistance group.
12th Aug '17 5:49:09 PM TitoMosquito
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* TwentyMinutesWithJerks: Not as bad as other examples,but the action starts around the 11 minute mark compared to the original which started after the 4 minute mark.

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* TwentyMinutesWithJerks: Not as bad as other examples,but examples, but the action starts around the 11 minute mark compared to the original which started after the 4 minute mark.
12th Aug '17 12:48:28 AM BNSF1995
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: For the plot to even begin it relies on the MST3KMantra to make the invasion of any amount of continental American territory by North Korean forces militarily possible. Even with their EMP weaponry and Chinese and Russian assistance, the logistics to make such a thing possible are simply well beyond feasibility for them, even if they managed to completely elude any American detection of their preparations.

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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: For the plot to even begin it relies on the MST3KMantra to make the invasion of any amount of continental American territory by North Korean forces militarily possible. Even with their EMP weaponry and Chinese and Russian assistance, the logistics to make such a thing possible are simply well beyond feasibility for them, even if they managed to completely elude any American detection of their preparations. In addtion to that, any foreign invasion of the United States would be met with a massive nuclear strike to destroy enemy command centers and war industry, as well as kill civilians to deprive the enemy of manpower.
25th Feb '17 7:27:39 PM Fireblood
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* IncrediblyObviousBug: Averted where after the final battle where DirtyCommunists used one to track the Wolverines to their lair by planting a homing device under the diguise of a stab wound.

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* IncrediblyObviousBug: Averted where after the final battle where DirtyCommunists the Russians used one to track the Wolverines to their lair by planting a homing device under the diguise disguise of a stab wound.
2nd Oct '16 8:44:29 AM JamesAustin
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* BiggerBad: Kim Jong-Un. While he doesn't appear anywhere in the movie (except for some of the news reports during the opening credits), he's the leader of North Korea.
** Russia and China. Though the occupation of the Pacific Northwest goes to the North Koreans, Colonel Tanner's remarks indicate that Russia invaded the East Coast, China the rest of the West Coast. The ambush that [[spoiler:kills Jed]] is also caused by Russian advisers attached to the North Koreans.



* BrokenAesop: A meta-example. The film's message about standing up for your ideals and never giving in to foreign invaders rings rather hollow given that the filmmakers censored the identity of the villains in post-production to retain access to that [[MoneyDearBoy sweet Chinese box office cash.]]
** Not to mention the fact that Jed openly compares the Wolverines to [[IraqWar the insurgents he fought in Iraq]], even saying at one point, [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters "Over there, we were the good guys. We enforced order. Here, we're the bad guys. We cause chaos."]] This comparison led some critics to wonder if the remake was intended as a StealthParody meant as propaganda against the IraqWar, though the filmmakers deny this.

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* BrokenAesop: BrokenAesop:
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A meta-example. The film's message about standing up for your ideals and never giving in to foreign invaders rings rather hollow given that the filmmakers censored the identity of the villains in post-production to retain access to that [[MoneyDearBoy sweet Chinese box office cash.]]
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** Not to mention the fact that Jed openly compares the Wolverines to [[IraqWar the insurgents he fought in Iraq]], Iraq, even saying at one point, [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters "Over there, we were the good guys. We enforced order. Here, we're the bad guys. We cause chaos."]] This comparison led some critics to wonder if the remake was intended as a StealthParody meant as propaganda against the IraqWar, Iraq War, though the filmmakers deny this.



* [[spoiler: TheHeroDies]]: Much like [[Film/RedDawn1984 the original]].

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* [[spoiler: TheHeroDies]]: GreaterScopeVillain:
** Kim Jong-Un. While he doesn't appear anywhere in the movie (except for some of the news reports during the opening credits), he's the leader of North Korea.
** Russia and China. Though the occupation of the Pacific Northwest goes to the North Koreans, Colonel Tanner's remarks indicate that Russia invaded the East Coast, China the rest of the West Coast. The ambush that [[spoiler:kills Jed]] is also caused by Russian advisers attached to the North Koreans.
* TheHeroDies:
Much like [[Film/RedDawn1984 the original]].
17th Feb '16 11:42:39 PM YT45
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* RefugeInAudacity: While infiltrating the police station, SMAJ Tanner has to get across the main lobby in full view of a dozen Nork soldiers. After briefly assessing his options, he slings his M4 and calmly strolls across the room, having correctly surmised that in the slightly-dim light, nobody on the North Korean night shift will pay much attention to an armed man in camouflage (just like everyone else in the building) who acts like he belongs there.
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