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24th Jul '17 6:30:59 AM Jan_z_Michal
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* ItsAllAboutMe: [[spoiler: A big part of what makes Ives so irredeemably evil. When dying on tuberculosis, he ''killed, cooked and ate'' a person who told him a myth, just to ''try'' prevent own death, with absolutely zero guaranteed it's going to work and completely disregarding the side effects. Then he callously wiped out entire pioneer party he lured in the middle of nowhere, just to get closer to his planned area of operation. And then killed and ate almost entire crew stationed in Fort Spencer. All just because it was good for his own health]]. Sacrifice and embracing death is in fact one of the main themes of the movie, with Boyd becoming a "hero" by playing dead instead of fighting and then spending rest of the story living under the heavy burden created by this event.
24th Jul '17 4:04:49 AM CosmicFerret
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A drama/horror/black comedy released in 1999, written by Ted Griffin and directed by Antonia Bird. Starred Creator/GuyPearce, Creator/RobertCarlyle, Jeremy Davies, Jeffrey Jones, David Arquette, Creator/NealMcDonough.

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A drama/horror/black comedy released in 1999, written by Ted Griffin and directed by Antonia Bird. Starred Creator/GuyPearce, Creator/RobertCarlyle, Jeremy Davies, Jeffrey Jones, David Arquette, Creator/JeremyDavies, Creator/JeffreyJones, Creator/DavidArquette, Creator/NealMcDonough.
19th Feb '17 5:26:23 PM Kooshmeister
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* NeckSnap: Boyd kills a Spanish officer at the beginning this way.

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* NeckSnap: Boyd kills a Spanish Mexican officer at the beginning this way.
19th Feb '17 5:26:05 PM Kooshmeister
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* NeckSnap: Boyd kills a Spanish officer at the beginning this way.
18th Feb '17 2:15:13 PM Jan_z_Michal
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* BuriedInAPileOfCorpses: Boyd plays dead in one for a time, resulting in him ending up in the enemy base and wiping them out.

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* BuriedInAPileOfCorpses: Boyd plays dead in one for a time, resulting in him ending up in the enemy base and wiping them out.singlehandly capturing it from the inside.
18th Feb '17 10:25:54 AM Katsuhagi
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* BuriedInAPileOfCorpses: Boyd plays dead in one for a time, resulting in him ending up in the enemy base and wiping them out.
3rd Feb '17 9:48:05 AM Jan_z_Michal
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* SettlingTheFrontier: A very important element of the background is the influx of pioneers to settle down in lands freshly captured from Mexico. Manifest Destiny is also brought up and discussed.
3rd Feb '17 7:43:07 AM Jan_z_Michal
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** After [[spoiler:wiping out the party from Fort Spencer]], at one point Ives is seen chuckling to himself as he drags Toffler's body into the cave. Considering we later see him eating outside in the stream, why ''was'' Ives dragging Toffler in there? [[spoiler:For Colonel Hart to eat, as we will find out later.]]

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** After [[spoiler:wiping out the party from Fort Spencer]], at one point Ives is seen chuckling to himself as he drags [[spoiler: Toffler's body body]] into the cave. Considering we later see him eating outside in the stream, why ''was'' Ives dragging Toffler it in there? [[spoiler:For Colonel Hart to eat, as we will find out later.]]
3rd Feb '17 7:38:38 AM Jan_z_Michal
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** Colqhoun has a rosary wrapped around his hand when he arrives at the fort. [[spoiler:Although it is possible to miss seeing it, the same rosary can be seen in his flashbacks belonging to Mrs MacCready that he claims to have left behind with Colonel Ives. This is the first sign that Colqhoun is not at all what he seems.]]

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** Colqhoun has a rosary wrapped around his hand when he arrives at the fort. [[spoiler:Although it is possible to miss seeing it, the same rosary can be seen in his flashbacks belonging to Mrs MacCready [=MacCready=] that he claims to have left behind with Colonel Ives. This is the first sign that Colqhoun is not at all what he seems.]]



* WouldHitAGirl: ZigZagged with Ives. [[spoiler: He had nothing against killing and eating Mrs MacCready, but in the end, Martha is the only inhabitant of Fort Spencer left alive and he apparently completely ignored her existence]].

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* WouldHitAGirl: ZigZagged with Ives. [[spoiler: He had nothing against killing and eating Mrs MacCready, [=MacCready=], but in the end, Martha is the only inhabitant of Fort Spencer left alive and he apparently completely ignored her existence]].
3rd Feb '17 7:37:58 AM Jan_z_Michal
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Colqhoun tells them that when he left the remnant of the group, there was at least two others still alive, the wife of one of the pioneers and their treacherous guide, Ives, who had seemed to truly embrace cannibalism. The Colonel of the fort sets out with his ragtag soldiers to attempt a rescue, but when one of them is hurt during the journey, he wakes up to find Colqhoun licking the wound... and then there's the horrifying scene they find when they reach the cave where the pioneers had taken shelter.

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Colqhoun tells them that when he left the remnant of the group, there was at least two others still alive, the wife of one of the pioneers and their treacherous guide, Ives, who had seemed to truly embrace cannibalism. The Colonel of the fort sets out with his ragtag soldiers to attempt a rescue, but when one of them is hurt during the journey, he wakes up to find Colqhoun licking the wound... and then there's the horrifying scene they find when they reach the cave where the pioneers had taken shelter.
rescue...



* AmbiguousDisorder: Private Toffler has some very odd behaviors, including sometimes going mute.

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-->'''Col. Hart''': Never found a bottle he didn't like.
* AmbiguousDisorder: Private Toffler has some very odd behaviors, including strange twitching and sometimes going mute.



* AntiVillain: [[spoiler: Col. Hart at the end.]]
* ArsonMurderAndLifeSaving: This is how Boyd earned the backhanded promotion that landed him at Fort Spencer.

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* AntiVillain: [[spoiler: Col. Hart at the end.]]
end, when he rejects cannibalism and opts to being killed by Boyd]].
* ArsonMurderAndLifeSaving: This is how Boyd earned the backhanded promotion that landed him at Fort Spencer.Spencer - he captured enemy outpost only because he freeze in combat and then played possum.



* BeingEvilSucks: Boyd definitely thinks so [[spoiler: as does Hart in the end]]
* BigBad: Colonel Ives kills his way through the cast of the film.

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* BeingEvilSucks: Boyd definitely thinks so [[spoiler: as does Hart in the end]]
end]].
* BigBad: [[spoiler: Colonel Ives kills his way through the cast of the film.film]].



** The first member of Colqhoun's party to bite it in the flashback is the token black servant.
** Also George, a resident native, dies before any of the other (white) main characters. [[spoiler:Although another character, who was white, had already been mortally wounded and was on death's door... but then he also wound up not dying because Ives converted him to cannibalism, so...]]

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** The first member of Colqhoun's party to bite it in the flashback is the token black servant.
"[[UnusualEuphemism servant]]".
** [[spoiler: Also George, a resident native, dies before any of the other (white) main characters. [[spoiler:Although Although another character, who was white, had already been mortally wounded and was on death's door... but then he also wound up not dying because Ives converted him to cannibalism, so...]]



** Colqhoun also implies that cannibals become sexually potent, though that might just be him making up for lost time after regaining his health. He was in ''bad'' shape before he started eating people.
* CassandraTruth: Boyd ends up with this problem when he tries to warn the others about Ives. Everyone still alive at the fort never saw Ives [[spoiler:when he appeared calling himself Colqhoun]], and Boyd is a newcomer they barely know who's acting crazy. If anything, ''Boyd'' winds up being the target of their suspicions.

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** Colqhoun [[spoiler: Ives also implies that cannibals become sexually potent, though that might just be him making up for lost time after regaining his health. He was in ''bad'' shape before he started eating people.
people]].
* CassandraTruth: Boyd ends up with this problem when he tries to warn the others about Ives. Everyone still alive at the fort [[spoiler: never saw Ives [[spoiler:when when he appeared appeared, calling himself Colqhoun]], and Boyd is a newcomer they barely know who's acting crazy. If anything, ''Boyd'' winds up being the target of their suspicions.



* ContrivedCoincidence: The series of circumstances that allow Boyd to survive his first clash with [[spoiler:Ives/Calqhoun]] is astronomically unlikely. [[spoiler:He jumps off a cliff into the forest below without dying, happens to roll across the body of Reich, (who had been mortally wounded and knocked off the cliff earlier by Colqhoun) then they both roll into a pit trap that gives Boyd cover and allows him to escape Colqhoun's notice when the cannibal comes looking for him to finish him off. On top of all that, Reich's body gives Boyd a food source and also gives him the Wendigo powers to heal and recover from his wounds quickly so he can limp back to Fort Spencer.]]
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: The drunken sot Major Knox knocks Boyd out with a single punch at one point. Later [[spoiler:when Colonel Hart is commenting on the stew they made out of Knox,]] he comments that Knox "was stronger than he looked". It didn't do Knox much good, however. Note the use of past tense.

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* ContrivedCoincidence: The series of circumstances that allow Boyd to survive his first clash with [[spoiler:Ives/Calqhoun]] is astronomically unlikely. [[spoiler:He jumps off a cliff into the forest below without dying, happens to roll across the body of Reich, (who had been mortally wounded and knocked off the cliff earlier by Colqhoun) then they both roll into a pit trap that gives Boyd cover and allows him to escape Colqhoun's notice when the cannibal comes looking for him to finish him off. On top of all that, Reich's body gives Boyd a food source and also gives him the Wendigo powers to heal and recover from his wounds quickly so he can limp back to Fort Spencer.]]
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: The drunken sot Major Knox knocks Boyd out with a single punch at one point. Later [[spoiler:when Colonel Hart is commenting on the stew they made out of Knox,]] Knox, he comments that Knox "was stronger than he looked".looked"]]. It didn't do Knox much good, however. Note the use of past tense.



* DirtyCoward: Boyd. Everybody knows it, including him. He let his entire unit get massacred around him while playing dead in an attempt to save himself. He only took the Mexican fort because some of his C.O.'s blood dripped into his mouth and gave a minor version of the Wendigo's CannibalismSuperpower. But in the end, [[spoiler:he finds the moral and physical courage to fight the monstrous Ives to the death, and when Ives is on the edge of victory Boyd willing gives his life to [[TakingYouWithMe take Ives with him]].]]

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* DirtyCoward: Boyd. Everybody knows it, including him. He let his entire unit get massacred around him while playing dead in an attempt to save himself. He only took the Mexican fort because [[spoiler: some of his C.O.'s blood dripped into his mouth and gave a minor version of the Wendigo's CannibalismSuperpower.CannibalismSuperpower]]. But in the end, [[spoiler:he finds the moral and physical courage to fight the monstrous Ives to the death, and when Ives is on the edge of victory Boyd willing gives his life to [[TakingYouWithMe take Ives with him]].]]



* TheEndOrIsIt: At the end of the film, [[spoiler: the newly-arrived General Slauson greedily slurping up the "Stew a la Major Knox", thus becoming a cannibal and setting up the potential to [[HereWeGoAgain start the whole mess up again]]. Of course, the good general wouldn't know where the meat came from, or how to repeat the experience, so that throws some doubt as to whether things will in fact start over.]]
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: More like "[[TheDeterminator Determinator]] Cannot Comprehend Coward". Ives is visibly shocked that Boyd would jump to seemingly certain death rather than stay and fight for his only real chance at survival. (Bear in mind that Boyd really ''was'' [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled committing suicide]] with that jump, and the fact that he lived was pure luck.)
* EvilTastesGood: Ives certainly thinks so.

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* TheEndOrIsIt: At the end of the film, [[spoiler: the newly-arrived General Slauson greedily slurping up the "Stew a la Major Knox", thus becoming a cannibal and setting up the potential to [[HereWeGoAgain start the whole mess up again]]. Of course, the good general wouldn't know where the meat came from, or how to repeat the experience, so that throws some doubt as to whether things will in fact start over.]]
over]].
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: More like "[[TheDeterminator Determinator]] Cannot Comprehend Coward". Ives is visibly shocked that Boyd would [[spoiler: jump to seemingly certain death death]] rather than stay and fight for his only real chance at survival. (Bear in mind What he didn't anticipate was that Boyd really ''was'' [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled committing suicide]] with that jump, suicide]], and the fact that he lived was pure luck.)
luck.
* EvilTastesGood: Ives certainly thinks so.so, especially given his state before he turned to the dark temptations.



** Colqhoun has a rosary wrapped around his hand when he arrives at the fort. [[spoiler:Although it is possible to miss seeing it, the same rosary can be seen in his flashbacks belonging to the woman that he claims to have left behind with Colonel Ives. This is the first sign that Colqhoun is not at all what he seems.]]
** The flashbacks provide more of this. The scenes describing the journey have plenty of detail, and show the struggle of the pioneers, but certain things are more or less hidden from viewers. Mostly, the appearance of Ives and how the various pioneers died. [[spoiler:This is done to hide the fact that it's Colqhoun who did all the murdering.]]

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** Colqhoun has a rosary wrapped around his hand when he arrives at the fort. [[spoiler:Although it is possible to miss seeing it, the same rosary can be seen in his flashbacks belonging to the woman Mrs MacCready that he claims to have left behind with Colonel Ives. This is the first sign that Colqhoun is not at all what he seems.]]
** The flashbacks provide more of this. The scenes describing the journey have plenty of detail, and show the struggle of the pioneers, but certain things are more or less hidden from viewers. Mostly, [[spoiler: the appearance of Ives and how the various pioneers died. [[spoiler:This This is done to hide the fact that it's Colqhoun who did all the murdering.]]]]
** While telling the story, [[spoiler: Colqhoun has hard time to recall names and origin of the party members, never adressing them by name and even never revealing his own name. That's because he never really cared about those people and only saw them as a meal]].



** Hart is about the only character shown eating food that ''isn't'' meat when he is munching on walnuts when Boyd first arrives at Fort Specner. [[spoiler:Hart later proves to be unable and unwilling to live as a cannibal, to the point that he begs Boyd for a MercyKill rather than continue on that path.]]

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** Hart is about the only character shown eating food that ''isn't'' meat when he is munching on walnuts when Boyd first arrives at Fort Specner. Spencer. [[spoiler:Hart later proves to be unable and unwilling to live as a cannibal, to the point that he begs Boyd for a MercyKill rather than continue on that path.]]path]].



* GreatOffscreenWar: [[UsefulNotes/MexicanAmericanWar And a one that rarely shows up in fiction]].



* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Colonel Hart, starts out as a KnightInSourArmor but turns cannibal when Ives brings him back from the dead before having a [[IncrediblyLamePun change of heart]] and asking Boyd to MercyKill him]]

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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Colonel Hart, starts out as a KnightInSourArmor but turns cannibal when Ives brings him back from the dead before having a [[IncrediblyLamePun change of heart]] and asking Boyd to MercyKill him]]him]].



* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Referenced in the quote at the beginning of the movie. Relevant to [[spoiler: Boyd, who has to become a monster to defeat Ives.]]

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Referenced in the quote at the beginning of the movie. Relevant to [[spoiler: Boyd, who has to become a monster to defeat Ives.]]Ives]].



-->'''Colqhoun:''' [talking about eating the first person to die from the pioneers] I ate sparingly. Others did not. The meat did not last us a week. We were soon hungry again, only this time our hunger was different. More... severe. Savage.

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-->'''Colqhoun:''' [talking (talking about eating the first person to die from the pioneers] pioneers) I ate sparingly. Others did not. The meat did not last us a week. We were soon hungry again, only this time our hunger was different. More... severe. Savage.



* JekyllAndHyde: [[spoiler: Colqhoun and Ives]] according to Creator/RobertCarlyle. [[spoiler:Apparently his behavior in front of the cave was his transforming from one to the other.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: Ives lays out his larger plot to Boyd in this manner. When the two are alone Ives lays out his plan to create a small but well-connected group of cannibals similar to Ives, who can ambush small groups of pioneers passing through Fort Spencer and cover it up effectively. Ives also picks the time and place of this revealation quite carefully to make sure he isn't overheard by any of the others.
* LetsFightLikeGentlemen: Well, not exactly fight, but Ives does give Toffler a sporting chance, telling him to run instead of simply killing him as Toffler stood there whimpering in shock.

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* JekyllAndHyde: [[spoiler: Colqhoun and Ives]] according to Creator/RobertCarlyle. [[spoiler:Apparently his behavior in front of the cave was his transforming from one to the other.]]
other]].
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: Ives lays out his larger plot to Boyd in this manner. When the two are alone Ives lays out his plan to create a small but well-connected group of cannibals similar to Ives, who can ambush small groups of pioneers passing through Fort Spencer and cover it up effectively. Ives also picks the time and place of this revealation quite carefully to make sure he isn't overheard by any of the others.
others]].
* LetsFightLikeGentlemen: Well, not exactly fight, but [[spoiler: Ives does give Toffler a sporting chance, telling him to run instead of simply killing him as Toffler stood there whimpering in shock.shock]].



** [[spoiler:Colqhoun leads the party from Fort Spencer out into the wilderness and away from help, right to ground he knows and where he can get an advantage on them, complete with hidden weapons and traps.]]

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** [[spoiler:Colqhoun leads the party from Fort Spencer out into the wilderness and away from help, right to ground he knows and where he can get an advantage on them, complete with hidden weapons and traps.]]traps]].



* MeaningfulBackgroundEvent: In-universe, the film takes place right when [[GoldFever Californian Gold Rush]] is about to start. While nobody in Fort Spencer knows about it yet, [[spoiler: including Ives, this would provide a steady influx of random pioneers going through the fort]].



* MenAreTheExpendableGender: Colonel Hart decides to try a rescue the moment Colqhoun reveals that the last people left from the party are a woman and Colonel Ives, who it seems will inevitably murder her. Nobody voices any objections, and both Reich and Boyd are later more upset about her death than those of all the other pioneers.
* MildlyMilitary: The guys at Fort Spencer spend most of their time just kind of hanging out, eating, or getting stoned. Granted, there's not much better to do in the middle of nowhere, but still.

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* MenAreTheExpendableGender: Colonel Hart decides to try a rescue the moment Colqhoun reveals that the last people left from the party are a woman and Colonel Ives, who it seems will inevitably murder her. Nobody voices any objections, and both Reich and Boyd are later more upset about her death than those of all the other pioneers. \n Their reaction is justified, since the entire trek was to get her rescued. [[spoiler: By the end of the film, the only inhabitant of Fort Spencer left alive is Martha. She wisely packs her things and just walks away]].
* MildlyMilitary: The guys at Fort Spencer spend most of their time just kind of hanging out, eating, or getting stoned. Granted, there's not much better to do in the middle of nowhere, nowhere while also being a skeleton crew, but still.



* MoodWhiplash: We have TheReveal, wherein Reich and Boyd find a cave full of bloody skeletons, [[spoiler: "reverend Colqhoun" turns out to be the BigBad Ives,]] two guys die brutally (Col. Hart is stabbed and gets tomahawked in the spine, George is shot); and it's immediately followed by Ives chasing Toffler around to silly banjo music.

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* MoodWhiplash: We have TheReveal, wherein Reich and Boyd find a cave full of bloody skeletons, [[spoiler: "reverend Colqhoun" turns out to be the BigBad Ives,]] Ives, two guys die brutally (Col. Hart is stabbed and gets tomahawked in the spine, George is shot); shot)]]... and it's immediately followed by Ives chasing Toffler around to silly banjo music.



* NotQuiteDead: Reich is somehow still alive after taking a dagger to the chest and falling off a cliff, and in his dying confusion he makes one last attempt to fight... apparently unaware that he's trying to choke Boyd rather than the guy who actually wounded him.

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* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler: Reich is somehow still alive after taking a dagger knife to the chest and falling off a cliff, and in his dying confusion he makes one last attempt to fight... apparently unaware that he's trying to choke Boyd rather than the guy who actually wounded him.him]].



* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: [[spoiler: Martha, at the end of the film. When she comes back and finds Boyd and Ives together in the bear trap, she immediately leaves the fort.]]

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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: [[spoiler: Martha, at the end of the film. When she comes back and finds Boyd and Ives together in the bear trap, she immediately leaves the fort.]] Given she's the last survivor of fort's inhabitants and a ''lot'' of weird things happend, she would end up questioned. And telling a story about mythical monster while being native ''and'' a woman is definitely not going to work her any favours]].



* SouthernGentleman: Major Knox.
* SuicidalGotcha: Messy, and without the common convenient landing spot. Boyd actually jumps off a cliff, falls down through tree limbs and into a PitTrap, breaking the ever-loving crap out of his leg in the process. Also, [[spoiler: the end of the movie, where Boyd lures Ives into a bear trap, which kills them both.]]

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* SouthernGentleman: Major Knox.
Knox has a very thick southern accent and is an officer.
* SuicidalGotcha: Messy, and without the common convenient landing spot. [[spoiler: Boyd actually jumps off a cliff, falls down through tree limbs and into a PitTrap, breaking the ever-loving crap out of his leg in the process. Also, [[spoiler: the end of the movie, where Boyd lures Ives into a bear trap, which kills them both.]]



* TeachHimAnger: Ives to Boyd, although it's less about anger and more about power and health. Which ends in [[spoiler: a very bloody PygmalionSnapback]].
* TookALevelInBadass: Boyd spends the entire film as the designated wimp (he even gets a medal of cowardice), until the last 3 scenes [[spoiler:when he decides to fight Ives, using all of his new cannibal superpowers]].

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* TeachHimAnger: [[spoiler: Ives to Boyd, although it's less about anger and more about power and health. Which ends in [[spoiler: a very bloody PygmalionSnapback]].
* TookALevelInBadass: Boyd spends the entire film as the designated wimp (he even gets a medal of cowardice), until [[spoiler: the last 3 scenes [[spoiler:when when he decides to fight Ives, using all of his new cannibal superpowers]].



* UnreliableExpositor: [[spoiler:Which part of Colqhoun's story was a fabrication and which was truth? We know that Ives ate some people and that he lived in that cave. But what about all the details?]]
* TheWorldsExpertOnGettingKilled: Reich is the most capable and motivated soldier of the entire garrison. [[spoiler: Naturally Ives kills him easily with a thrown dagger and a convenient cliff for him to fall off.]]

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* UnreliableExpositor: [[spoiler:Which part of Colqhoun's story was a fabrication and which was truth? We know that Ives ate some people and that he lived in that cave. But what about all the details?]]
details? Especially since some of them don't stick together]].
* UnusualEuphemism: Mr Janus from Virginia travelled with his black "servant" Jones. The action takes place in the winter in early 1848, making it more likely for Jones to be simply a slave.
* TheWorldsExpertOnGettingKilled: [[spoiler: Reich is the most capable and motivated soldier of the entire garrison. [[spoiler: Naturally Ives kills him easily with a thrown dagger and a convenient cliff for him to fall off.]]
off]].
* WouldHitAGirl: ZigZagged with Ives. [[spoiler: He had nothing against killing and eating Mrs MacCready, but in the end, Martha is the only inhabitant of Fort Spencer left alive and he apparently completely ignored her existence]].
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