History Film / QuestForFire

28th Apr '16 11:05:26 AM Naram-Sin
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** The idea of three different hominid species being found in relative proximity in the late Pleistocene wasn't supported when the movie came out, but it is now that both Neanderthal and Denisovan remains have been identified in southern Siberia and dated to about 50,000-40,000 (just before or around the time modern humans also moved into the area).
23rd Apr '16 4:34:37 PM Faberlich
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'''''Quest for Fire''''' (French: ''La Guerre du feu'', "The War of Fire") is a 1981 film directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. It is based off the book of the same name by Belgian author J.H. Rosny aîné. It is set in Paleolithic Europe, around 80,000 years ago, and concerns a small group of cavemen as they search for the fire their tribe needs to survive.

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'''''Quest for Fire''''' (French: ''La Guerre du feu'', "The War of Fire") is a 1981 film directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. It is based off the book of the same name by Belgian author J.H. Rosny aîné. It is set in Paleolithic Europe, around 80,000 years ago, and concerns a small group of cavemen as they search for the fire their tribe needs to survive.survive, not knowing how to produce it themselves.
23rd Apr '16 4:33:16 PM Faberlich
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''Quest for Fire'' (French: ''La Guerre du feu'', "The War of Fire") is a 1981 film directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. It is based off the book of the same name by Belgian author J.H. Rosny aîné. It is set in Paleolithic Europe, around 80,000 years ago, and concerns a small group of cavemen as they search for the fire their tribe needs to survive.

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''Quest '''''Quest for Fire'' Fire''''' (French: ''La Guerre du feu'', "The War of Fire") is a 1981 film directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. It is based off the book of the same name by Belgian author J.H. Rosny aîné. It is set in Paleolithic Europe, around 80,000 years ago, and concerns a small group of cavemen as they search for the fire their tribe needs to survive.
26th Mar '16 3:44:37 AM Morgenthaler
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[[spoiler:* BabiesEverAfter: By the closing scene, Ika has become pregnant with Noah's child.]]

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[[spoiler:* * BabiesEverAfter: By [[spoiler:By the closing scene, Ika has become pregnant with Noah's child.]]
10th Mar '16 12:10:56 AM TheMorlock
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** It is now known that neanderthals and other archaic humans possessed the ability to use and make fire, but it is possible for this ability to be lost in a culture that does not have a system of writing or any other way of keeping records. Even in recent times, some hunter-gatherer cultures lack the knowledge to start fire.

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** It is now known that neanderthals and other archaic humans possessed the ability to use and make fire, but it is possible for this ability to be lost in a culture that does not have a system of writing or any other way of keeping records. Even in recent times, some hunter-gatherer cultures lack the knowledge to start fire.fire and will maintain one continuous fire like the Ulam do in the film.
** The film portrays multiple human species interacting and even interbreeding. This has now been found to be accurate. At least two species (the Neanderthals and the mysterious Denisovans) have left traces in the human genome.
** The Wagabu are portrayed as a more primitive, ape-like species covered in shaggy hair. In the traditional view of human evolution, the idea of such a primitive species living alongside Neanderthals and modern humans seemed unlikely but the recently-discovered [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Deer_Cave_people#cite_note-5 Red Deer Cave people]] seem to share features in common with early species like ''Homo habilis'', and given the sketchy nature of the fossil record, it is entirely possible than many such archaic species may have survived until recent times in habitats where fossilization doesn't occur.
9th Mar '16 11:57:07 PM TheMorlock
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* ScienceMarchesOn: The film was accurate according to the knowledge of the time, but has become somewhat dated now. Notably, neanderthals and other primitive humans were probably much more advanced than how they are depicted here. See HumansAreSpecial above for details.
9th Mar '16 10:55:00 AM TheMorlock
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* HumansAreSpecial: The Ivaka (anatomically modern humans) are initially the only people capable of understanding humour, starting their own fires, constructing free-standing shelters, and copulating face-to-face. ScienceMarchesOn, and it is now thought that all, or most, ''Homo'' species shared these abilities to some degree (even great apes like chimps and gorillas are known to understand humour and mate face-to-face). However, it is possible for some, if not all of these abilities to be lost in a culture that does not have a system of writing or any other way of keeping records. Even in recent times, some hunter-gatherer cultures lack the knowledge to start fire.

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* HumansAreSpecial: The Ivaka (anatomically modern humans) are initially the only people capable of understanding humour, starting their own fires, constructing free-standing shelters, and copulating face-to-face. ScienceMarchesOn, and it is now thought that all, or most, ''Homo'' species shared these abilities to some degree (even great apes like chimps and gorillas are known to understand humour and mate face-to-face). However, it is possible for some, if not all of these abilities to be lost in a culture that does not have a system of writing or any other way of keeping records. Even in recent times, some hunter-gatherer cultures lack the knowledge to start fire.


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* ScienceMarchesOn: The film was accurate according to the knowledge of the time, but has become somewhat dated now. Notably, neanderthals and other primitive humans were probably much more advanced than how they are depicted here. See HumansAreSpecial above for details.


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* TruthInTelevision: As mentioned under ScienceMarchesOn, the film got many things right as well:
** It is now known that neanderthals and other archaic humans possessed the ability to use and make fire, but it is possible for this ability to be lost in a culture that does not have a system of writing or any other way of keeping records. Even in recent times, some hunter-gatherer cultures lack the knowledge to start fire.
9th Mar '16 10:47:40 AM TheMorlock
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Ulam "courtship" consists of males grabbing random females and mounting them with little to no verbal communication or negotiation. This causes some problems when Ulam males come into contact with Ivaka (''Homo sapiens'') females.



* SuperPersistentPredator: The sabretooths wait under the tree for the trio to fall, long after any real predator would give up.
* {{Slurpasaur}}: There are sabretooth cats in the movie played by trained lions with prosthetic teeth.

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* StockDinosaurs: No non-avian dinosaurs are present, but the prerequisite woolly mammoths and sabre-toothed cats show up.
* SuperPersistentPredator: The sabretooths sabre-toothed cats wait under the tree for the trio to fall, long after any real predator would give up.
* {{Slurpasaur}}: There are sabretooth The aforementioned sabre-toothed cats in the movie are played by trained lions with prosthetic teeth.
8th Mar '16 11:20:53 PM TheMorlock
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* HumansAreSpecial: The Ivaka (anatomically modern humans) are initially the only people capable of understanding humour, starting their own fires, constructing free-standing shelters, and copulating face-to-face. ScienceMarchesOn, and it is now thought that all, or most, ''Homo'' species shared these abilities to some degree (even great apes like chimps and gorillas are known to understand humour and mate face-to-face).

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* HumansAreSpecial: The Ivaka (anatomically modern humans) are initially the only people capable of understanding humour, starting their own fires, constructing free-standing shelters, and copulating face-to-face. ScienceMarchesOn, and it is now thought that all, or most, ''Homo'' species shared these abilities to some degree (even great apes like chimps and gorillas are known to understand humour and mate face-to-face). However, it is possible for some, if not all of these abilities to be lost in a culture that does not have a system of writing or any other way of keeping records. Even in recent times, some hunter-gatherer cultures lack the knowledge to start fire.
8th Mar '16 11:16:16 PM TheMorlock
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* DoYouWantToCopulate: Sex in the paleolithic is extremely open and casual.

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* DoYouWantToCopulate: Sex in the paleolithic is extremely open and casual. TruthInTelevision: even today, people in hunter-gatherer societies live in very close quarters with little if any privacy, so sex often occurs in full view of other clan members, [[ValuesDissonance including children]].
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