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7th Jan '17 1:32:38 PM Warwolf
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* HandSignals: Dutch's men use them in loo of audio communication.

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* HandSignals: Dutch's men use them in loo lieu of audio communication.
11th Nov '16 9:43:41 PM ajbit26
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* BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame: Dutch uses stealth tactics to defeat the Predator, though it isn't enough to win outright.



%%* BigBadWannabe: Dillon in a way.



%%* BitchInSheepsClothing: Dillon to an extent.

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%%* * BitchInSheepsClothing: Dillon Dillon. He uses his friendship with Dutch to an extent.get everyone sent to South America to undertake a mission under false pretenses.



* BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame: Dutch uses stealth tactics to defeat the Predator, though it isn't enough to win outright.



* DiscOneFinalBoss: The mission is undertaken to rescue some men from a group of South American guerillas. Soon after the camp is destroyed, the human-hunting alien shows up.

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* DiscOneFinalBoss: The mission is undertaken to rescue some men from a group of South American guerillas.guerrillas. Soon after the camp is destroyed, the human-hunting alien shows up.



* FairPlayVillain: The Predator [[spoiler:doesn't attack the unarmed, given they're not much sport; he spares Anna, as she was a civilian. He later gives Dutch a better shot at him by stripping off his mask and shoulder cannon when he had him at his mercy. Not that the fight is anywhere near even, given his superior strength and wrist-blade, but it's more fair than long-range instant death.]]

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* FairPlayVillain: The Predator [[spoiler:doesn't [[spoiler: doesn't attack the unarmed, given they're not much sport; he spares Anna, as she was a civilian. He later gives Dutch a better shot at him by stripping off his mask and shoulder cannon when he had him at his mercy. Not that the fight is anywhere near even, given his superior strength and wrist-blade, but it's more fair than long-range instant death.]]



* GatlingGood: The famous GE M134 minigun "Ol' Painless", wielded by Wrestling/JesseVentura, was the first handheld minigun ever to be used on film (or in any fiction for that matter). The actors who fired it had to be braced just offscreen, lest the recoil knock them on their ass. And that was just firing ''blanks''. They also had to connect it to an external power source offscreen, via a wire that went down his pants. Jesse himself has stated that while the gun was suspended from an offscreen crane in early takes, he later managed to fire it without the crane's help: "You just had to grit your teeth and hold on. It's like firing a chainsaw. It's fucking ridiculous. Why the fuck would anyone want to use something like that?"

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* GatlingGood: The famous GE M134 minigun "Ol' Painless", wielded by Wrestling/JesseVentura, was the first handheld minigun ever to be used on film (or in any fiction for that matter). The actors who fired it had to be braced just offscreen, off-screen, lest the recoil knock them on their ass. And that was just firing ''blanks''. They also had to connect it to an external power source offscreen, off-screen, via a wire that went down his pants. Jesse himself has stated that while the gun was suspended from an offscreen off-screen crane in early takes, he later managed to fire it without the crane's help: "You just had to grit your teeth and hold on. It's like firing a chainsaw. It's fucking ridiculous. Why the fuck would anyone want to use something like that?"



* GiveMeAReason: Anna (the captured guerilla) tries to escape from Dillon, her captor. After she's recaptured he says to her "Try it again...please", a threat of what he'll do to her if she does.

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* GiveMeAReason: Anna (the captured guerilla) guerrilla) tries to escape from Dillon, her captor. After she's recaptured he says to her "Try it again...please", a threat of what he'll do to her if she does.



%%* HandSignals

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%%* HandSignals* HandSignals: Dutch's men use them in loo of audio communication.



* ItsProbablyNothing: Billy senses the Predator is watching them, looking at the spot where the Predator is watching from. Major comes to know what's up with him.

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* ItsProbablyNothing: Billy senses the Predator is watching them, looking at the spot where the Predator is watching from. Major Dutch comes to know what's up with him.



* JumpScare: After coming out of his hiding place to draw out the Predator, Dutch was about to turn back the Predator suddenly got caught in their trap.

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* JumpScare: After coming out of his hiding place to draw out the Predator, Dutch was about to turn back when the Predator suddenly got caught in their trap.



* NotSoDifferent: Perhaps. Dutch, upon seeing the [[spoiler: mortally wounded]] Predator, asks "What the hell are you?" It replies, "What the hell are ''you''?" Though it might just be mimicking the sound, considering the context, it's very likely he was inferring a similar response regardless.



* OutGambitted: [[spoiler: How the Predator is defeated. In the final encounter most of his traps count on this, forcing the Predator to second guess everything and guiding him toward his own demise. The final fatal instrument counts on the Predator being smart enough to notice it, in order to position himself under the counterweight. Still had the Predator been a little less cocky (or walked in the wrong direction). he'd have killed Dutch a few times over before then.]]

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* OutGambitted: [[spoiler: How the Predator is defeated. In the final encounter most of his Dutch's traps count on this, forcing the Predator to second guess everything and guiding him himself toward his own demise. The final fatal instrument counts on the Predator being smart enough to notice it, in order to position himself under the counterweight. Still had the Predator been a little less cocky (or walked in the wrong direction). he'd have killed Dutch a few times over before then.]]



** Dillion tells that's not his decision to make.

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** Dillion tells him that's not his decision to make.



* [[YouShallNotPass/{{Film}} You Shall Not Pass]]: [[spoiler:Billy]] makes his last stand against the Predator to give the rest of the team a chance to escape.

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* [[YouShallNotPass/{{Film}} You Shall Not Pass]]: YouShallNotPass: [[spoiler:Billy]] makes his last stand against the Predator to give the rest of the team a chance to escape.
11th Nov '16 9:28:19 PM ajbit26
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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Dillon. His actions lead to the deaths of everyone since he tricked them into taking the mission in the first place. considering most of the deaths of the characters by the Predator's hand lead back to him, due to tricking his colleagues to their deaths all because he left them in the dark about the actual assassination mission.]]

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Dillon. His actions lead to the deaths of everyone since he tricked them into taking the mission in the first place. considering most of the deaths of the characters by the Predator's hand lead back to him, due to tricking his colleagues to their deaths all because he left them in the dark about the actual assassination mission.]]
15th Oct '16 4:11:01 PM moloch
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* BlackGuyDiesFirst: [[AvertedTrope Averted]], technically. [[spoiler: Thoughplayed straight FromACertainPointOfView, as Creator/ShaneBlack's character does indeed die first.]]

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* BlackGuyDiesFirst: [[AvertedTrope Averted]], technically. [[spoiler: Thoughplayed Though played straight FromACertainPointOfView, as Creator/ShaneBlack's character does indeed die first.]]first!]]
15th Oct '16 4:11:01 PM moloch
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15th Oct '16 4:08:16 PM moloch
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* BlackGuyDiesFirst: [[AvertedTrope Averted]], technically. [[spoiler: Thoughplayed straight FromACertainPointOfView, as Creator/ShaneBlack's character does indeed die first.]]
12th Oct '16 12:16:23 AM TitoMosquito
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* JumpScare: After coming out of his hiding place to draw out the Predator, Dutch was about to turn back the Predator suddenly got caught in their trap.
-->'''Dillion:''' SHIT!
28th Sep '16 4:33:59 AM JamesAustin
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''Predator'' is a 1987 sci-fi action/horror movie directed by John [=McTiernan=]. Its success spawned the multimedia ''Franchise/{{Predator}}'' franchise.

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''Predator'' is a 1987 sci-fi action/horror movie directed by John [=McTiernan=].Creator/JohnMcTiernan. Its success spawned the multimedia ''Franchise/{{Predator}}'' franchise.



* NoAnimalsWereHarmed: Notably averted. In his [=DVD=] commentary, director John [=McTiernan=] makes a point of noting that the scorpion which Mac stabs and later stomps was a real one.

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* NoAnimalsWereHarmed: Notably averted. In his [=DVD=] commentary, director John [=McTiernan=] Creator/JohnMcTiernan makes a point of noting that the scorpion which Mac stabs and later stomps was a real one.
9th Sep '16 6:21:41 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* AgentScully: Dillon has the most trouble buying that anything non-human is after them.

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* AgentScully: Dillon has the most trouble buying that anything non-human is after them.them, until he sees it for himself.



* AmmunitionBackpack: Blaine's Mini-Gun backpack ''magazine''. Yes, it may just be an oversized magazine, but considering it's Blaine, ''Predator'', and the whole awesomeness in general of that movie, well, it becomes awesome by proxy.
* AnArmAndALeg: [[spoiler:Dillon.]] It's even still triggering his machine gun.
* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Dillon, considering most of the deaths of the characters by the Predator's hand leads back to him, due to tricking his colleagues to their deaths all because he left them in the dark about the actual assassination mission.]]

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* AmmunitionBackpack: Blaine's Mini-Gun gatling gun comes with an entire backpack ''magazine''. Yes, it may just be an oversized magazine, but considering it's Blaine, ''Predator'', and the whole awesomeness in general of that movie, well, it becomes awesome by proxy.
magazine to feed it.
* AnArmAndALeg: [[spoiler:Dillon.]] It's even [[spoiler:Dillon]] has an arm blasted off by the Predator, still triggering his machine gun.
firing the gun it was holding while still attached.
* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Dillon, [[spoiler:Dillon. His actions lead to the deaths of everyone since he tricked them into taking the mission in the first place. considering most of the deaths of the characters by the Predator's hand leads lead back to him, due to tricking his colleagues to their deaths all because he left them in the dark about the actual assassination mission.]]



-->'''Mac:''' "You're ghosting us motherfucker. I don't care who you are back in the world. You give away our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, an' leave you here. Got that?"

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-->'''Mac:''' "You're --->'''Mac:''' You're ghosting us motherfucker. I don't care who you are back in the world. You give away our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, an' leave you here. Got that?"that?



--> '''Dutch:''' If it bleeds, we can kill it!

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--> ---> '''Dutch:''' If it bleeds, we can kill it!



-->'''Dutch:''' You can't win this, Dillon.\\

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-->'''Dutch:''' --->'''Dutch:''' You can't win this, Dillon.\\



* BadassCrew: Dutch's team.

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* BadassCrew: Dutch's team.team is an elite commando unit.



* BigBadWannabe: Dillon in a way.

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* %%* BigBadWannabe: Dillon in a way.



* BitchInSheepsClothing: Dillon to an extent.

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* %%* BitchInSheepsClothing: Dillon to an extent.



* BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame: Dutch uses stealth tactics to defeat the Predator.

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* BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame: Dutch uses stealth tactics to defeat the Predator.Predator, though it isn't enough to win outright.



* UsefulNotes/ColdWar: Dutch's mission involves wiping out Communist insurgents in South America.
* CreditsMontage / HilariousOuttakes: The characters and actors are reviewed [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall in hilarious way]], except for Dutch.

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* UsefulNotes/ColdWar: Dutch's mission involves wiping out Communist insurgents in South America.
* CreditsMontage / HilariousOuttakes:
CreditsMontage: The characters and actors are reviewed [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall in a hilarious way]], except for Dutch.



* CurbStompBattle: Dutch and his team wipes out the guerrillas early in the film. Then the Predator hunts down and kills Dutch's team one by one without hardly a scratch. The battle between Dutch and the Predator also starts this way, as the Predator completely wrecks Dutch in hand-to-hand combat.
* DaylightHorror: A very good example of this trope; Dutch's team are all killed off in broad daylight, with only the finale taking place at nightfall.
* DeadMansTriggerFinger: A variant -- the titular creature blasts [[spoiler:Dillon's]] arm off with its Shoulder Cannon. The arm falls to the ground, with the dead hand still pulling the trigger of the weapon it's holding and the gun still firing.
* DespairEventHorizon: Mac goes through one of these after [[spoiler: Blaine's death.]] Billy seemingly resigns himself to death the moment he believes something other than a human is hunting them.

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* CurbStompBattle: Dutch and his team wipes wipe out the guerrillas early in the film. Then the Predator hunts down and kills Dutch's team one by one without hardly a scratch. The battle between Dutch and the Predator also starts this way, as the Predator completely wrecks Dutch in hand-to-hand combat.
* DaylightHorror: A very good example of this trope; Dutch's team are all killed off in broad daylight, with only the finale taking place at nightfall.
* DeadMansTriggerFinger: A variant -- the titular creature blasts [[spoiler:Dillon's]] arm off with its Shoulder Cannon.shoulder cannon. The arm falls to the ground, with the dead hand still pulling the trigger of the weapon it's holding and the gun still firing.
* DespairEventHorizon: Mac goes through one of these after [[spoiler: Blaine's death.]] death]]. Billy seemingly resigns himself to death the moment he believes something other than a human is hunting them.



** The film transitions from: 80s action movie --> horror movie --> sci-fi film.



* HandSignals

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* %%* HandSignals



* HeroicBSOD: "[[MadnessMantra I'm gonna have me some fun... I'm gonna have me some fun...]]" Mac was more or less together for the most part after [[spoiler: Blaine's death]], the HeroicBSOD didn't kick in until Poncho is nearly killed and causing Mac to snap.
-->"I got you motherfucker! I got you! ''(runs after the Predator)'' I'M COMIIING!!"

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* HeroicBSOD: HeroicBSOD:
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"[[MadnessMantra I'm gonna have me some fun... I'm gonna have me some fun...]]" Mac was more or less together for the most part after [[spoiler: Blaine's death]], the HeroicBSOD didn't kick in until Poncho is nearly killed and causing Mac to snap.
-->"I --->"I got you motherfucker! I got you! ''(runs after the Predator)'' I'M COMIIING!!"



* ItsProbablyNothing: Billy sense the Predator is watching them, looking at the spot where the Predator is watching from. Major came to know what's up with him.

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* ItsProbablyNothing: Billy sense senses the Predator is watching them, looking at the spot where the Predator is watching from. Major came comes to know what's up with him.



* KnightOfCerebus: The Predator's presence is dealt with very seriously and greatly drains quite a bit of the campy comedy out of the movie when it arrives. Rather fitting considering the team members are in their comfort zone against human opposition, hence their general levity, but once the Predator turns up and makes it clear they're outmatched, they find themselves in a much more dire and unfamiliar scenario.
* LuredIntoATrap: Dutch attempts this after retreating from the Predator by trying to lure it into an obvious choke point lined with sharpened wooden stakes. The Predator doesn't fall for the SchmuckBait, but [[spoiler: Dutch reveals that he has a counter measure to it being GenreSavvy as well; the Predator circles around instead, unaware that he has just stepped underneath an even more dangerous deadfall trap.]]
** [[spoiler: The falling log was part of the same trap. Had the Predator stepped forward instead of around, its foot would have been snared in the rope and pulled it up between the two spiked branches with the log as the weight to jerk it upwards. Dutch just improvised when it stepped underneath the counter-weight.]]

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* KnightOfCerebus: The Predator's presence is dealt with very seriously and greatly drains quite a bit of the campy comedy out of the movie when it arrives. Rather fitting considering the team members are in their comfort zone against human opposition, hence their general levity, but once the Predator turns up and makes it clear they're outmatched, they find themselves in a much more dire and unfamiliar scenario.
* LuredIntoATrap: Dutch attempts this after retreating from the Predator by trying to lure it into an obvious choke point lined with sharpened wooden stakes. The Predator doesn't fall for the SchmuckBait, but [[spoiler: Dutch reveals that he has a counter measure to it being GenreSavvy as well; trips the Predator circles around instead, unaware that trap himself so the counterweight will crush the Predator, who had walked below it as he has just stepped underneath an even more dangerous deadfall was avoiding the main trap.]]
** [[spoiler: The falling log was part of the same trap. Had the Predator stepped forward instead of around, its foot would have been snared in the rope and pulled it up between the two spiked branches with the log as the weight to jerk it upwards. Dutch just improvised when it stepped underneath the counter-weight.
]]



-->'''Billy:''' "I'm scared, major."\\
'''Poncho:''' "Bullshit! You ain't afraid of no man."\\
'''Billy:''' "There's something out there waiting for us. And it ain't no man. ''(cocks his gun)'' We're all gonna die."

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-->'''Billy:''' "I'm I'm scared, major."\\
\\
'''Poncho:''' "Bullshit! Bullshit! You ain't afraid of no man."\\
\\
'''Billy:''' "There's There's something out there waiting for us. And it ain't no man. ''(cocks his gun)'' We're all gonna die."



-->'''Dutch:''' Did you find Hawkins?
-->'''Poncho:''' I... can't tell.

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-->'''Dutch:''' Did you find Hawkins?
-->'''Poncho:'''
Hawkins?\\
'''Poncho:'''
I... can't tell.



* OneWordTitle

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* OneWordTitleOneWordTitle: ''Predator''



* OutGambitted: [[spoiler: How the Predator is defeated. In the final encounter most of his traps count on this, forcing the Predator to second guess everything and guiding him toward his own demise. The final fatal instrument counts on the Predator being smart enough to notice it, in order to fall prey to an even worse trap. Still had the Predator been a little less cocky, he'd have killed Dutch a few times over before then.]]
** [[spoiler: The log was part of the spiked branches trap as the counter-weight to pull it up into the spikes. Dutch was lucky it didn't walk around the other side.]]

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* OutGambitted: [[spoiler: How the Predator is defeated. In the final encounter most of his traps count on this, forcing the Predator to second guess everything and guiding him toward his own demise. The final fatal instrument counts on the Predator being smart enough to notice it, in order to fall prey to an even worse trap. position himself under the counterweight. Still had the Predator been a little less cocky, cocky (or walked in the wrong direction). he'd have killed Dutch a few times over before then.]]
** [[spoiler: The log was part of the spiked branches trap as the counter-weight to pull it up into the spikes. Dutch was lucky it didn't walk around the other side.
]]



* RatedMForManly: Hell yeah.
* ARealManIsAKiller: Despite being a mercenary, Dutch doesn't think so and turned down numerous high-profile jobs for this reason.
--> '''Dutch''': We're a rescue team, ''not'' assassins.

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* RatedMForManly: Hell yeah.
It's a bunch of badass soldiers vs. an alien hunter.
* ARealManIsAKiller: ARealManIsAKiller:
**
Despite being a mercenary, Dutch doesn't think so and turned down numerous high-profile jobs for this reason.
--> ---> '''Dutch''': We're a rescue team, ''not'' assassins.



-->'''Dillon:''' You're an asset. An expendable asset. And I used you to get the job done, got it?!\\

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-->'''Dillon:''' --->'''Dillon:''' You're an asset. An expendable asset. And I used you to get the job done, got it?!\\



* RedHerring: Early on in the film, much is made of the Predator's ability to mimic human speech. Specifically, it is shown analyzing and duplicating Mac's dialogue "Turn around. Over here." Over an hour of screen time later, Dillon hears Mac's voice beckoning him with the exact same words and tone. At this point, the entire terrified audience believes that the Predator is baiting him, only it turns out... it really was Mac after all. The Predator never does use that gambit.
** Though it may have been using it; Mac just happened to actually be there. After Mac is killed, the Predator taunts him with Mac's "Anytime" dialogue, so it is employed as psychological warfare.
* RockBeatsLaser: Averted! Despite exploiting the Predator's heat vision to his advantage, Dutch's low-tech approach fails to beat the alien. It's only when the latter decides to "[[HonorBeforeReason even things out]]" by removing its multi-purpose helmet and shoulder gun that Dutch stands a slender chance. [[spoiler:And even when he wins, it's in no small part due to luck and the Predator's strange blend of arrogance and honor.]]

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* RedHerring: Early on in the film, much is made of the Predator's ability to mimic human speech. Specifically, it is shown analyzing and duplicating Mac's dialogue "Turn around. Over here." Over an hour of screen time later, Dillon hears Mac's voice beckoning him with the exact same words and tone. At this point, the entire terrified audience believes that the Predator is baiting him, only it turns out... it really was Mac after all. The Predator never does use that gambit.
** Though it may have been using it; Mac just happened to actually be there.
gambit. After Mac is killed, the Predator taunts him with Mac's "Anytime" dialogue, so it is employed as psychological warfare.
* RockBeatsLaser: Averted! Averted. Despite exploiting the Predator's heat vision to his advantage, Dutch's low-tech approach fails to beat the alien. It's only when the latter decides to "[[HonorBeforeReason even things out]]" by removing its multi-purpose helmet and shoulder gun that Dutch stands a slender chance. [[spoiler:And even when he wins, it's in no small part due to luck and the Predator's strange blend of arrogance and honor.]]



--> '''Dutch''': You can't win this one [[spoiler:Dillon.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Dillon''':]] I know, but maybe I can get even.

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--> '''Dutch''': You can't win this one one, [[spoiler:Dillon.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Dillon''':]]
]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Dillon''']]:
I know, but maybe I can get even.



* SoundtrackDissonance: Music/LittleRichard's "Long Tall Sally" being played by Blain on the chopper flight to the drop zone.

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* SoundtrackDissonance: SoundtrackDissonance:
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Music/LittleRichard's "Long Tall Sally" being played by Blain on the chopper flight to the drop zone.
9th Sep '16 6:03:02 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* OutsideContextFoe: Dutch and his team have everything under control, until an interplanetary hunter with technology, skills, and physical strength beyond any of them arrives.

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* OutsideContextFoe: OutsideContextProblem: Dutch and his team have everything under control, until an interplanetary hunter with technology, skills, and physical strength beyond any of them arrives.
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