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26th Jun '16 3:46:52 PM crazyrabbits
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* ObstructiveBureaucraft: Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki. Throughout the film, he continues to pressure Whitmore to take drastic and unprecedented retaliatory attacks as soon as possible. The morning after the attack, he is the first to suggest unloading a full nuclear arsenal against the invaders over American cities. Later, he reveals that he and certain government officials had full knowledge of the aliens for decades and ''knew'' what they were capable of, but didn't tell any of the past administrations or the general populace. Arguably, his [[PoorCommunicationKills refusal to reveal this information]] until his hand is forced results in the initial counterattack failing and hundreds of pilots dying as a result. Nimziki eventually tries to talk Whitmore out of attacking the aliens before the final battle, claiming it would be a mistake. Whitmore replies:

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* ObstructiveBureaucraft: ObstructiveBureaucrat: Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki. Throughout the film, he continues to pressure Whitmore to take drastic and unprecedented retaliatory attacks as soon as possible. The morning after the attack, he is the first to suggest unloading a full nuclear arsenal against the invaders over American cities. Later, he reveals that he and certain government officials had full knowledge of the aliens for decades and ''knew'' what they were capable of, but didn't tell any of the past administrations or the general populace. Arguably, his [[PoorCommunicationKills refusal to reveal this information]] until his hand is forced results in the initial counterattack failing and hundreds of pilots dying as a result. Nimziki eventually tries to talk Whitmore out of attacking the aliens before the final battle, claiming it would be a mistake. Whitmore replies:
26th Jun '16 3:43:45 PM crazyrabbits
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* AerialCanyonChase: Steven pulls this against a group of alien fighters.

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* AerialCanyonChase: Steven pulls this against a group of an alien fighters.fighter.



* AllThereInTheManual: The novelization and deleted scenes contain details that make the widely-derided {{Technobabble}} aspects of the film more palatable, such as the widely-derided "[=MacBook=] virus" being based on the communications algorithm David decrypted earlier and an analysis of the alien craft's systems by the Area 51 staff.

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* AllThereInTheManual: The novelization and deleted scenes contain details that make the widely-derided {{Technobabble}} aspects of the film more palatable, such as the widely-derided "[=MacBook=] virus" being based on the communications algorithm David decrypted earlier and an analysis of the alien craft's systems by the Area 51 staff.



* AlwaysKnowAPilot: The military is so devastated that there is literally a call for anyone with prior piloting experience. Randy Quaid's doofy dad character has experience with.... crop dusting? As a bonus, the President reveals that he too was once a pilot and will be joining the fight.

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* AlwaysKnowAPilot: AlwaysKnowAPilot:
** Whitmore is a former combat pilot, and brings up his combat experience at several points throughout the film. When it comes time for the final battle, he suits up himself and joins the fight, and ends up being one of only three known pilots shown to have survived the battle and subsequent destruction of the ship over Area 51.
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The military is so devastated that there is literally a call for anyone with prior piloting experience. Randy Quaid's doofy dad character Emphasized later, when Whitmore points out to Grey that the pilots they've assembled for the final battle look very young.
** Russell
has experience with.... with crop dusting? As a bonus, the President reveals that he too was once a dusting, but seems to be able to pilot a fighter plane just fine. PlayedWith in the novelization and will be joining original -- Major Mitchell refuses to allow Russell to pilot a fighter jet because he's drunk, so the fight.latter eventually shows up during the fight with a ''nuclear missile strapped to his old biplane''.



* ApatheticCitizens: The few patronizing the strip club while an alien spaceship hovers over their city. On the other hand, they're not paying attention to the strippers, but the TV showing the alien ships.

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* ApatheticCitizens: The few patronizing patrons at the strip club while an alien spaceship hovers over their city. On the other hand, they're not paying attention to the strippers, but the TV showing the alien ships.



* ArbitrarySkepticism

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* ArbitrarySkepticismArbitrarySkepticism:



* BenevolentBoss: Marty (Creator/HarveyFierstein), David's CampGay boss at the satellite TV company. His immediate reaction when David warns him of the potential danger is to tell everyone to stop work and get to safety ''now''. This is a media company that is covering the event: shutting off transmission long before others even guess of any danger would cost them millions.

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* BenevolentBoss: BenevolentBoss:
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Marty (Creator/HarveyFierstein), David's CampGay boss at the satellite TV company. His immediate reaction when David warns him of the potential danger is to tell everyone to stop work and get to safety ''now''. This is a media company that is covering the event: shutting off transmission long before others even guess of any danger would cost them millions.millions.
** On the other hand, a deleted scene shows Marty taking much glee with the fact that David has hacked through the aliens' signal and cleared the reception up for the station, making them the only broadcaster in town with a working transponder.



* BreakingBadNewsGently: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] when President Whitmore can’t bear to tell his daughter about her mom’s death. She then breaks the bad news gently ''to herself'' by sadly asking, [[BigSleep “Is Mommy sleeping?”]] [[TearJerker The President quietly responds, “Yeah,” and hugs her.]]

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* BreakingBadNewsGently: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] when President Whitmore can’t bear to tell his daughter about her mom’s death. She then breaks the bad news gently ''to herself'' by sadly asking, [[BigSleep “Is Mommy sleeping?”]] [[TearJerker The President quietly responds, “Yeah,” and hugs her.]]



* ChekhovsHobby

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* ChekhovsHobbyChekhovsHobby:



** The only man who figures out the alien signal is a countdown happens to have an ex-wife who works for the President, thus getting him access.

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** The only man who figures out the alien signal is a countdown happens to have an ex-wife who works for the President, thus getting him access. Additionally, it's stated in dialogue that David knew Whitmore before the latter became President, and they already have a degree of familiarity with each other.



* HeroicBSOD

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* HeroicBSODHeroicBSOD:



* MonumentalDamage: It's taken to an extreme, which shouldn't be surprising since this is a Roland Emmerich film. Amongst the casualties are the Empire State Building, the White House, the U.S. Bank Tower, and the pyramids of Giza. The trailers spoiled this one big-time. The first thing you see is the decapitated head of the Statue of Liberty, after the alien attack.

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* MonumentalDamage: MonumentalDamage:
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It's taken to an extreme, which shouldn't be surprising since this is a Roland Emmerich film. Amongst the casualties are the Empire State Building, the White House, the U.S. Bank Tower, and the pyramids of Giza. The trailers spoiled this one big-time. The first thing you see is the decapitated head of the Statue of Liberty, after the alien attack.



* TheMountainsOfIllinois

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%* TheMountainsOfIllinois
* TheMountainsOfIllinoisMustNotDieAVirgin: The TropeNamer (the original title of this trope was a line from the film itself, "You Don't Want to Die a Virgin, Do You?"). Alicia's boyfriend tries to pressure her to lose her virginity when the alien ships are first sighted, until her brother pulls her out of the car and says they're leaving. In a deleted subplot, Alicia meets a boy in the refugee convoy and [[MeaningfulEcho later asks him the same thing during the Area 51 battle]], but this trope is subverted when he says that they can both die as virgins together.



* ObstructiveBureaucrat: Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki. Before he became the Secretary of Defense job he was the CIA Director. They had evidence of a hostile alien race, they KNEW what they were capable of, and yet they DIDN'T. TELL. THE GOVERNMENT. This results in the initial counterattack against the aliens being utterly annihilated due to the shields and the US losing hundreds of pilots that could have been more useful if they actually had a way to beat them. The guy eventually tries to talk Whitmore out of attacking the aliens before the end battle, claiming it would be a mistake. Whitmore replies:

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* ObstructiveBureaucrat: ObstructiveBureaucraft: Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki. Before he became Throughout the Secretary of Defense job film, he was continues to pressure Whitmore to take drastic and unprecedented retaliatory attacks as soon as possible. The morning after the CIA Director. They attack, he is the first to suggest unloading a full nuclear arsenal against the invaders over American cities. Later, he reveals that he and certain government officials had evidence full knowledge of a hostile alien race, they KNEW the aliens for decades and ''knew'' what they were capable of, and yet they DIDN'T. TELL. THE GOVERNMENT. This but didn't tell any of the past administrations or the general populace. Arguably, his [[PoorCommunicationKills refusal to reveal this information]] until his hand is forced results in the initial counterattack against the aliens being utterly annihilated due to the shields failing and the US losing hundreds of pilots that could have been more useful if they actually had dying as a way to beat them. The guy result. Nimziki eventually tries to talk Whitmore out of attacking the aliens before the end final battle, claiming it would be a mistake. Whitmore replies:



* OhCrap
** David's face as one of the destroyers moves into position above Manhattan and he realises the signal he's been trying to decipher is a countdown before they launch their attack.
** ''"They're using our own satellites against us...and the clock is ticking".''
** These are Harvey Fierstein's character's [[FamousLastWords last words]].
** An amusing example occurs when Steven Hiller is reading the paper on his front lawn. He looks left and right, bewildered at all his neighbors apparently moving out at once. Then he looks straight ahead and sees the miles-wide spacecraft hovering over the city.
** The Air Force flies out to engage one of the giant flying saucers, they fire their missiles at it, and... the missiles hit a DeflectorShield.
** Most of the Air Force pilots look like this after first realising their weapons are useless against the aliens...and then seeing ''thousands'' of alien fighter craft emerging from the main ship to do battle.
** At El Toro Air Base, the base learns they've got incoming. The colonel in charge of the base asks if it's friendly; a nearby sergeant grimly remarks "I don't think so". The colonel looks out the window...and his face is this trope perfectly as he catches sight of an armada of alien fighters descending to raze the base to the ground.
** While performing an AlienAutopsy, the alien ''opens its eyes''.
** The president finally authorizes the use of [[NukeEm nuclear weapons]], a B-2 bomber launches a Tomahawk cruise missile at a giant flying saucer while it's over an evacuated city, the bomb explodes, the air clears, and... the flying saucer is undamaged. Humanity's final line of defense, and it's proven useless.
** Connie asks Major Mitchell what happens if the aliens get there before they plant the computer virus. He mentions that the mountain should afford them some protection. She then asks him about the people on the surface. Aahh.
** The point where Steven and David pass over a staging ground aboard the mothership with thousands, if not millions of alien soldiers waiting to board transport ships; the look they exchange as they realise they're looking at forces for a ground invasion of the planet screams this trope.
** They've finally brought down the flying saucer's shields, they're hammering away at it with missiles that just aren't taking big enough chunks out of it, and then, right when it's over their base... it opens its city-incinerating gun port. The background music at this moment plays the most OhCrap-ified version of the alien motif in the movie.
** Moments after, Whitmore fires his last missile in a bid to destroy the weapon, only to have it impact harmlessly against the side. One of his fellow pilots begins to move into position, but is shot out of the sky before he can fire. And then it comes in over the radio that every last missile has been fired.
** "It's jammed! It won't fire!" ''Not'' what you want to hear from the guy whose got your entire squadron's last missile. [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice Until, of course, he decides to personally jam it up their ass, plane and all]].]]
** Two alien controllers aboard the mothership get one: [[spoiler: one when it sees the nuclear missile coming straight at it (it even gives a scream of terror at the sight of it) and then when the other crawls through the rubble of its control room to reach the missile and sees the timer reading 00:01]].

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* OhCrap
** David's face as one of the destroyers moves into position above Manhattan and he realises the signal he's been trying
OhCrap: Due to decipher is a countdown before they launch their attack.
** ''"They're using our own satellites against us...and the clock is ticking".''
** These are Harvey Fierstein's character's [[FamousLastWords last words]].
** An amusing example occurs when Steven Hiller is reading the paper on his front lawn. He looks left and right, bewildered at all his neighbors apparently moving out at once. Then he looks straight ahead and sees the miles-wide spacecraft hovering over the city.
** The Air Force flies out to engage one of the giant flying saucers, they fire their missiles at it, and... the missiles hit a DeflectorShield.
** Most of the Air Force pilots look like
this after first realising their weapons are useless against the aliens...and then seeing ''thousands'' of alien fighter craft emerging from the main ship to do battle.
** At El Toro Air Base, the base learns they've got incoming. The colonel in charge of the base asks if it's friendly;
being a nearby sergeant grimly remarks "I don't think so". The colonel looks out the window...and his face is DisasterMovie, this trope perfectly as he catches sight of an armada of alien fighters descending to raze reaction is ''very'' common throughout the base film. It's easier to the ground.
** While performing an AlienAutopsy, the alien ''opens its eyes''.
** The president finally authorizes the use of [[NukeEm nuclear weapons]], a B-2 bomber launches a Tomahawk cruise missile at a giant flying saucer while it's over an evacuated city, the bomb explodes, the air clears, and... the flying saucer is undamaged. Humanity's final line of defense, and it's proven useless.
** Connie asks Major Mitchell what happens if the aliens get there before they plant the computer virus. He mentions
say that the mountain should afford them some protection. She then asks him about the people on the surface. Aahh.
** The point where Steven and David pass over a staging ground aboard the mothership with thousands, if not millions of alien soldiers waiting to board transport ships; the look they exchange as they realise they're looking at forces for a ground invasion of the planet screams
someone reacts this trope.
** They've finally brought down the flying saucer's shields, they're hammering away at it with missiles that just aren't taking big enough chunks out of it, and then, right when it's over their base... it opens its city-incinerating gun port. The background music at this moment plays the most OhCrap-ified version of the alien motif in the movie.
** Moments after, Whitmore fires his last missile in a bid to destroy the weapon, only to have it impact harmlessly against the side. One of his fellow pilots begins to move into position, but is shot out of the sky before he can fire. And then it comes in over the radio that
way every last missile has been fired.
** "It's jammed! It won't fire!" ''Not'' what you want to hear from the guy whose got your entire squadron's last missile. [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice Until, of course, he decides to personally jam it up their ass, plane and all]].]]
** Two alien controllers aboard the mothership get one: [[spoiler: one when it sees the nuclear missile coming straight at it (it even gives a scream of terror at the sight of it) and then when the other crawls through the rubble of its control room to reach the missile and sees the timer reading 00:01]].
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* PlugNPlayTechnology: See above. How could we have known they would have a weakness to [[ShoutOut a computer]] [[Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds virus]]? FridgeBrilliance: The scientists at Area 51 had been studying the craft for years. Odds are they had some idea of how its systems work. (Granted one scientist states things switched on since the invaders arrived. This has no qualifiers, however, for if the ship runs on electricity, there is no reason the scientists couldn't jury-rig a generator to run parts of the ship during their research.) If the scientists knew the basics of how the aliens' computers operate, they could write a virus for them. What if they are not compatible? FridgeBrilliance covers this as well. If they know how the software works they could write an emulator to operate on a terrestrial computer for the specific task of uploading the virus. This would even explain the HollywoodHacking where a window pops up saying "Uploading Virus" rather than a more generic "Uploading File".

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* PlugNPlayTechnology: See above. How could we have known they would have a weakness David's Macintosh laptop is somehow able to [[ShoutOut a computer]] [[Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds virus]]? FridgeBrilliance: The scientists at Area 51 had been studying directly interface with the craft for years. Odds are they had some idea of how its alien mothership and upload the virus to their systems work. (Granted one scientist states things switched on since the invaders arrived. This has no qualifiers, however, for if the ship runs on electricity, there is no reason the scientists couldn't jury-rig (complete with a generator to run parts of the ship during their research.) If the scientists knew the basics of how the aliens' computers operate, they could write a virus for them. What if they are not compatible? FridgeBrilliance covers this as well. If they know how the software works they could write an emulator to operate on a terrestrial computer for the specific task of uploading the virus. This would even explain the HollywoodHacking where a window pops up saying helpful "Uploading Virus" rather than a more generic "Uploading File".indicator). It's possible that this framework was set up by David and the lab technicians at Area 51 in the interim between the former's idea and his reveal to Whitmore and the others, but this isn't explicitly stated.



* SwissCheeseSecurity: The Area 51 guard lets Steven and his huge convoy into the base without so much as a phone call. {{Justified}} though, as the alien invasion has made the secret of housing an alien craft moot, and no one would be willing to turn away a few thousand scared refugees while the ''President'' is there on an inspection.

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* SwissCheeseSecurity: SwissCheeseSecurity:
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The Area 51 guard lets Steven and his huge convoy into the base without so much as a phone call. {{Justified}} though, as the alien invasion has made the secret of housing an alien craft moot, and no one would be willing to turn away a few thousand scared refugees while the ''President'' is there on an inspection.



* VomitDiscretionShot: Assumed when David Levinson is closing an airsickness bag and again when he runs off after Julius Levinson gives a particularly nauseating description of motion on a plane.

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* VomitDiscretionShot: VomitDiscretionShot:
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Assumed when David Levinson is closing an airsickness bag and again when he runs off after Julius Levinson gives a particularly nauseating description of motion on a plane.plane.
** When Russell's youngest son begins to feel sick and asks for him to stop the RV. He proceeds to get out and vomit (offscreen) in the background while Russell points out the convoy to Miguel.
26th Jun '16 5:48:57 AM LtFedora
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* DEFCONFive: President Whitmore considers upgrading to DEFCON 3. In the special edition, after hearing about the ships heading towards Earth, he orders them to go to DEFCON 3.
24th Jun '16 4:17:05 PM HeroGal2347
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* AlwaysKnowAPilot: The military is so devastated that there is literally a call for anyone with prior piloting experience. Randy Quaid's doofy dad character has experience with.... crop dusting? As a bonus, the President reveals that he too was once a pilot and will be joining the fight.
24th Jun '16 1:19:29 PM Eagal
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The film is notable for being a massive success, featuring spectacular visual effects and being an original story, not based on any pre-existing property. It's one of the classic "event movies," kicking off a revival of the DisasterMovie in mid-to-late 90s. The influence of this film, which huge stakes and city-leveling destruction, can be seen even today; Roland Emmerich himself repeated a similar formula in his later films like ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'', ''Film/TheDayAfterTomorrow'' and ''Film/TwoThousandTwelve''. In addition, its [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4rxoh_independence-day-super-bowl-trailer_shortfilms teaser trailer]] for UsefulNotes/SuperBowl XXX launched a tradition of summer films having a trailer during the big game.
23rd Jun '16 7:04:34 PM contrafanxxx
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* BigGood: President Whitmore.
23rd Jun '16 11:36:49 AM contrafanxxx
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* BadassBoast: During Whitmore's RousingSpeech.
21st Jun '16 11:45:35 PM outlander2012
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-->'''Julius''': ''[seeing David smashing things in a drunken rage]'' David, what the hell are you doing?!
-->'''David''': I'm making a mess!
-->'''Julius''': Yeah, this I can see.
-->'''David''': We've got to burn down the rainforest, dump toxic waste, pollute the air and rip up the ozone good! Because maybe if we screw this planet up enough, they won't want it anymore!
20th Jun '16 1:31:07 PM agvk
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* OneHundredAndEight: According to ViralMarketing for the sequel, 108 cities are destroyed in the invasion. The 36 alien devastators attacked three times each.

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* OneHundredAndEight: According to ViralMarketing for the sequel, 108 cities are destroyed in the invasion. The 36 alien devastators attacked three times each.each (on average).
20th Jun '16 9:22:09 AM MontyPythonFanatic2
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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Had the aliens not decided to attack the "Welcome Wagon" helicopters ten minutes before their main attack, Levinson would not have had the proof he needed to show that the aliens had hostile intentions, and thus cause the President to order mass evacuations and successfully escape the destruction of Washington D.C., and simultaneously providing a story newscasters are able to use to convince the populace of the alien threat. It's too late to stop countless deaths, of course, but the aliens could have crippled human resistance in one fell swoop had they not been so trigger happy.

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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Had the aliens not decided to attack the "Welcome Wagon" helicopters ten minutes before their main attack, Levinson would not have had the proof he needed to show that the aliens had hostile intentions, and thus cause causing the President to order mass evacuations and successfully escape the destruction of Washington D.C., and simultaneously providing a story newscasters are able to use to convince the populace of the alien threat. It's too late to stop countless deaths, of course, but the aliens could have crippled human resistance in one fell swoop had they not been so trigger happy.
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