History Film / GosfordPark

28th Nov '16 10:06:50 PM foxley
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* LotsaPeopleTryToDunIt: The murder victim was stabbed while sitting in a dark room alone. [[spoiler: He had already been killed by poison.]]
12th Nov '16 9:26:19 AM eroock
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->''Tea at four''

->''Dinner at eight''

->''Murder at midnight''

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->''Tea ->''"Tea at four''

->''Dinner
four\\
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Dinner
at eight''

->''Murder
eight\\
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Murder
at midnight''
midnight."''\\
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22nd Oct '16 11:38:29 AM nombretomado
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* BritishAccents
19th Jul '16 5:02:35 AM WillBGood
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* CreepyHousekeeper: Mrs Wilson. Robert Altman mentions on the commentary that the only direction he gave to Helen Mirren was to think about Mrs Danvers from Film/Rebecca. Mrs Danvers served as the inspiration for the fact that Mirren often just suddenly appears in the frame.

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* CreepyHousekeeper: Mrs Wilson. Robert Altman mentions on the commentary that the only direction he gave to Helen Mirren was to think about Mrs Danvers from Film/Rebecca.''Film/{{Rebecca}}''. Mrs Danvers served as the inspiration for the fact that Mirren often just suddenly appears in the frame.
1st May '16 10:40:48 PM Fireblood
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More than just a basic murder mystery story, ''Gosford Park'' focuses more on the servants ([[spoiler: so much so, there's one in literally every scene]]) and the division between both ends of the British class system than the rich murdered guy and his rich "friends". The whodunnit plot is used as a device to examine the characters and their relationships with one another, and as a reason for the film to come to an end.

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More than just a basic murder mystery story, ''Gosford Park'' focuses more on the servants ([[spoiler: so ([[spoiler:so much so, there's one in literally every scene]]) and the division between both ends of the British class system than the rich murdered guy and his rich "friends". The whodunnit plot is used as a device to examine the characters and their relationships with one another, and as a reason for the film to come to an end.



* AmbiguouslyBi: Henry Denton, who sleeps with [[RichBitch Lady Sylvia]], tries to seduce [[TheIngenue Mary]] and [[spoiler: it's implied he has a relationship with Mr Weissman]]
* AmbiguouslyGay: [[spoiler: It's implied that Mr Weissman has a relationship with Henry Denton.]]

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* AmbiguouslyBi: Henry Denton, who sleeps with [[RichBitch Lady Sylvia]], tries to seduce [[TheIngenue Mary]] and [[spoiler: it's implied he has a relationship with Mr Mr. Weissman]]
* AmbiguouslyGay: [[spoiler: It's implied that Mr Mr. Weissman has a relationship with Henry Denton.]]



* TheButlerDidIt: Invoked and Averted. [[spoiler:A valet ''did'' stab Sir William, but his mother figured it out and poisoned Sir William ahead of time. There's no law against stabbing a corpse]]. Mr Weissman is heard discussing this trope over the phone. He argues that a valet is a better suspect, because there's only one butler - but a valet would have more access.

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* TheButlerDidIt: Invoked and Averted. [[spoiler:A valet ''did'' stab Sir William, but his mother figured it out and poisoned Sir William ahead of time. There's no law against stabbing a corpse]]. Mr Mr. Weissman is heard discussing this trope over the phone. He argues that a valet is a better suspect, because there's only one butler - but a valet would have more access.
27th Mar '16 5:32:03 PM nombretomado
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The screenplay is by Julian Fellowes, who would later create the popular British television drama ''DowntonAbbey''. Like ''GosfordPark'', it would be set in an English manor house and star Maggie Smith.

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The screenplay is by Julian Fellowes, who would later create the popular British television drama ''DowntonAbbey''. ''Series/DowntonAbbey''. Like ''GosfordPark'', ''Gosford Park'', it would be set in an English manor house and star Maggie Smith.
19th Mar '16 1:43:59 AM Hossmeister
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23rd Feb '16 11:35:27 AM enitharmon
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Sir William [=McCordle=] (Michael Gambon), a rich guy, invites some more of his rich friends to a hunting trip at Gosford Park. They also bring all their servants.

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Sir William [=McCordle=] (Michael Gambon), a rich guy, invites some more of his rich friends to a hunting trip shooting party at Gosford Park. They also bring all their servants.
5th Feb '16 6:20:12 AM lafeeverte
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More than just a basic murder mystery story, ''Gosford Park'' focuses more on the servants (so much so, there's one in literally every scene) and the division between both ends of the British class system than the rich murdered guy and his rich "friends". The whodunnit plot is used as a device to examine the characters and their relationships with one another, and as a reason for the film to come to an end.

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More than just a basic murder mystery story, ''Gosford Park'' focuses more on the servants (so ([[spoiler: so much so, there's one in literally every scene) scene]]) and the division between both ends of the British class system than the rich murdered guy and his rich "friends". The whodunnit plot is used as a device to examine the characters and their relationships with one another, and as a reason for the film to come to an end.



* AmbiguouslyBi: Henry Denton, who sleeps with [[RichBitch Lady Sylvia]], try to seduce [[TheIngenue Mary]] and [[spoiler: it's implied he has a relationship with Mr. Weissman]]
* AmbiguouslyGay: [[spoiler: It's implied that Mr. Weissman has a relationship with Henry Denton.]]
* AristocratsAreEvil: Most of the aristocracts come off as selfish and arrogant.

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* AmbiguouslyBi: Henry Denton, who sleeps with [[RichBitch Lady Sylvia]], try tries to seduce [[TheIngenue Mary]] and [[spoiler: it's implied he has a relationship with Mr. Mr Weissman]]
* AmbiguouslyGay: [[spoiler: It's implied that Mr. Mr Weissman has a relationship with Henry Denton.]]
* AristocratsAreEvil: Most of the aristocracts aristocrats come off as selfish and arrogant.



* BigDamnKiss: [[spoiler: Parks to Mary.]] and Colonel Meredith to his wife.
* BitchAlert: Lady Sylvia and the Countess of Trentham
* {{Blackmail}}: Mr. Nesbitt blackmails Isobel by [[spoiler:threatening to tell her parents that Freddie Nesbitt made her pregnant, and that she subsequently had an abortion.]]

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* BigDamnKiss: [[spoiler: Parks to Mary.]] Mary]] and Colonel Meredith to his wife.
* BitchAlert: Lady Sylvia and the Countess of Trentham
Trentham.
* {{Blackmail}}: Mr. Mr Nesbitt blackmails Isobel by [[spoiler:threatening to tell her parents that Freddie Nesbitt he made her pregnant, and that she subsequently had an abortion.]]



** Mabel Nesbitt, who comes from working class backgrounds and now no longer has any money. Constance makes a point to make fun of the fact that she brought only a single off-the-rack evening dress.

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** Mabel Nesbitt, who comes from a working class backgrounds background and now no longer has any money. Constance makes a point to make fun of the fact that she brought only a single off-the-rack evening dress.



* TheCasanova: Sir William [[spoiler:courted female workers of his factory, often getting them pregnant and then forcing them to either give up their baby to keep their job or to let them keep the baby and then fire the woman. Although its debatable how consensual some of those dalliances were]].

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* TheCasanova: Sir William [[spoiler:courted [[spoiler:slept with female workers of his factory, often getting them pregnant and then forcing them to either give up their baby to keep their job or to let them keep the baby and then fire the woman. Although its debatable how consensual some of those dalliances were]].



* ChekhovsGun: There's plenty of talk about a knife going missing from the drawer, and there's likewise a lingering shot of poison in the kitchen.

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* ChekhovsGun: There's plenty of talk about a knife going missing from the drawer, and there's likewise a several lingering shot shots of poison in the kitchen.poison.



* CrazyPrepared: [[spoiler: Mrs Wilson poisoned Sir William's coffee but, when he knocked the cup to the floor and asked for a different drink, Mrs Wilson had brought the poison with her and was able to use it]].
* CreepyHousekeeper: Mrs. Wilson. Robert Altman mentions on the commentary that the only direction he gave to Helen Mirren was to think about Mrs Danvers from Film/Rebecca. Mrs Danvers served as the inspiration for the fact that Mirren often just suddenly appears in the frame.
* ContrivedClumsiness: After a man posing as a servant reveals himself to be an actor and moves from "below stairs" to "above stairs". To punish him for his deception, the butler spills hot coffee in his lap. He immediately accuses the servant of doing it on purpose, but it's futile at that point. His fellow servants quickly hide their smiles, and the aristocrats think it's pretty funny, too.
* CulturalStereotypes: The wealthy. Specifically, the ''titled'' wealthy; all but a handful of the Upstairs characters are absolutely awful people and dicks of the highest order (and those Upstairs characters who are more likable tend to also be of 'lower' station). That said, the Downstairs characters aren't exactly pure as driven snow, but we're clearly encouraged to sympathise with them a bit more.
* DangerousDeserter: Completely averted with Jennings, who lives with shame because of it. When Dexter eventually finds out, he doesn't rub it in his face and tries to comfort him with something along the lines of "not everyone was born to fight a war".
* DeadpanSnarker: Lady Constance. Also Mrs. Wilson.

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* CrazyPrepared: [[spoiler: Mrs Wilson poisoned Sir William's coffee but, when he knocked the cup to the floor and asked for a different drink, Mrs Wilson she had brought the poison with her and was able to use it]].
* CreepyHousekeeper: Mrs. Mrs Wilson. Robert Altman mentions on the commentary that the only direction he gave to Helen Mirren was to think about Mrs Danvers from Film/Rebecca. Mrs Danvers served as the inspiration for the fact that Mirren often just suddenly appears in the frame.
* ContrivedClumsiness: After a man posing as a servant reveals himself to be an actor and moves from "below stairs" to "above stairs". To punish him for his deception, the butler a footman spills hot coffee in his lap. He immediately accuses the servant of doing it on purpose, but it's futile at that point. His fellow servants quickly hide their smiles, and the aristocrats think it's pretty funny, too.
* CulturalStereotypes: The wealthy. Specifically, the ''titled'' wealthy; all but a handful of the Upstairs characters are absolutely awful people and dicks of the highest order (and those Upstairs characters who are more likable likeable tend to also be of 'lower' station). That said, the Downstairs characters aren't exactly pure as driven snow, but we're clearly encouraged to sympathise with them a bit more.
* DangerousDeserter: Completely averted with Jennings, who lives with shame because of it. When Dexter eventually finds out, he doesn't rub it in his face and tries to comfort him with something along the lines of "not everyone was born to fight a war".
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* DeadpanSnarker: Lady Constance. Also Mrs. Mrs Wilson.



* TheGrandHunt: There's a hunt planned as part of the country-house festivities. The women join a special outdoor lunch after the shooting, and the American film producer (who is also a vegetarian) is clearly the odd man out.

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* TheGrandHunt: There's a hunt planned as part of the country-house country house festivities. The women join a special an outdoor lunch after the shooting, and the American film producer (who is also a vegetarian) is clearly the odd man out.



* HiddenDepths: Constance Trentham has one brief moment where she expresses her dislike of fox hunting. She sounds so weary and tired at this stage.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Ivor Novello was an accomplished and much-loved movie star and songwriter in his time. The songs the character performs during the film are some of his most famous, although the real Novello reportly considered his own voice very poor. As the film implies, he was homosexual.

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* HiddenDepths: Constance Trentham has one brief moment where she expresses her dislike of fox hunting. She sounds so weary and tired at this stage.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Ivor Novello was an accomplished and much-loved movie star and songwriter in his time. The songs the character performs during the film are some of his most famous, although the real Novello reportly reportedly considered his own voice very poor. As the film implies, he was homosexual.



** The Honourable Freddie Nesbitt married his wife, Mabel, who was the daughter of a glove manufacturer. Their marriage isn't happy.

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** The Honourable Freddie Nesbitt married his wife, Mabel, who was the daughter of a glove manufacturer. Their marriage isn't happy.



* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: A variation. The downstairs staff are referred to by their master and mistresses's names.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Why Mary realizes that there's something off with [[spoiler: Denton.]] Also during his second night with Lady Sylvia.

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: A variation. The visiting downstairs staff are referred to by their master and mistresses's names.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Why Mary realizes realises that there's something off with [[spoiler: Denton.]] Also during his second night with Lady Sylvia.



* PetTheDog: The Countess of Trentham is revealed to have a softer side in her last line of the film

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* PetTheDog: The Countess of Trentham is revealed to have a softer side in her last line of the filmfilm.



** "Take/Move that filthy/vile dog/animal out of here." People from Upstairs and Downstairs really don't like Pip. Except William...and Elsie.

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** "Take/Move that filthy/vile dog/animal out of here." People from Upstairs and Downstairs really don't like Pip. Except William...William, Robert and Elsie.



* SweetAndSourGrapes: [[spoiler: Elsie gets to tell Lady Syliva off but ends up dismissed as a result. However the Americans offer to take her with them, implying she'll become an actress in Hollywood]].

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* SweetAndSourGrapes: [[spoiler: Elsie gets to tell Lady Syliva Sylvia off but ends up dismissed as a result. However the Americans offer to take give her with them, a lift to London, implying she'll become an actress in Hollywood]].
22nd Jan '16 4:13:08 PM nombretomado
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2001 film directed by Creator/RobertAltman, set in a large country house in 1930s Britain. The film features an all-star ensemble cast, which includes Alan Bates, StephenFry, Michael Gambon, Creator/RichardEGrant, Derek Jacobi, HelenMirren, Creator/CliveOwen, Maggie Smith and EmilyWatson.

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2001 film directed by Creator/RobertAltman, set in a large country house in 1930s Britain. The film features an all-star ensemble cast, which includes Alan Bates, StephenFry, Creator/StephenFry, Michael Gambon, Creator/RichardEGrant, Derek Jacobi, HelenMirren, Creator/HelenMirren, Creator/CliveOwen, Maggie Smith and EmilyWatson.
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