History Film / FreddyVsJason

30th Aug '17 9:53:23 PM TitoMosquito
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* BaitSwitch: At one point, it looks like Jason was walking towards the surviving characters to kill them. But the camera pans to reveal it's Freddy walking with a limp and about to kill them with Jason's machete. Only to be impaled by Jason, using Freddy's own severed arm that has his claws.

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* BaitSwitch: BaitAndSwitch: At one point, it looks like Jason was walking towards the surviving characters to kill them. But the camera pans to reveal it's Freddy walking with a limp and about to kill them with Jason's machete. Only to be impaled by Jason, using Freddy's own severed arm that has his claws.
30th Aug '17 9:48:47 PM TitoMosquito
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** The girl skinny-dipping at the opening. In an alternate opening, she's watching the little kids at Camp Crystal Lake, and decides to leave when a boy wakes up from a nightmare. She just tells him to go back to sleep. Later, as she's being chased, she runs back to the cabin and tries to get inside but it's locked and the boy just gives her the finger. After Jason kills her, she comes back to life saying that she should have watched the kids.
* AttemptedRape:

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** The girl skinny-dipping at the opening. In an alternate opening, she's she was watching the little kids at Camp Crystal Lake, and decides to leave when a boy wakes up from a nightmare. She just tells him to go back to sleep. Later, as she's being chased, she runs back to the cabin and tries to get inside but it's locked and the boy just gives her the finger. After Jason kills her, she comes back to life (via Freddy's dream) saying that she (and other teen counselors) should have watched the kids.
* AttemptedRape: AttemptedRape:
29th Aug '17 12:57:08 AM TitoMosquito
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* BaitSwitch: At one point, it looks like Jason was walking towards the surviving characters to kill them. But the camera pans to reveal it's Freddy walking with a limp and about to kill them with Jason's machete. Only to be impaled by Jason, using Freddy's own severed arm that has his claws.



** Canonically, Springwood is a town in Ohio, and Camp Crystal Lake is in New Jersey. The protagonists drive from one to the other in about an hour.

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** Canonically, Springwood is a town in Ohio, and Camp Crystal Lake is in New Jersey. The protagonists drive from one to the other in about an hour. Unless there was a TimeSkip and they've actually been driving for days non-stop.
31st Jul '17 3:11:47 AM enigmaniac
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* EvilVersusEvil: Freddy Krueger vs. Jason Voorhees. Both are mass-murdering serial killers. The winner is [[EvasiveFightThreadEpisode fuzzy]], but on the whole most people find themselves siding with the guy who isn't a child killer (even if he does have many, many more kills). Even the ''heroes'' end up rooting for Jason over Freddy because they decide Jason is the LesserOfTwoEvils between them. There was also a pragmatic reason for the protagonists supporting Jason over Freddy. While Jason may have had a bigger body count, he's generally less dangerous because he tends to stay in Camp Crystal Lake unless provoked. Freddy actively hunts for victims and can kill you anywhere in the world as long as you're asleep.

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* EvilVersusEvil: Freddy Krueger vs. Jason Voorhees. Both are mass-murdering serial killers. The winner is [[EvasiveFightThreadEpisode fuzzy]], but on the whole most people find themselves siding with the guy who isn't a child killer Jason (even if he does have many, many more kills). Even the ''heroes'' end up rooting for Jason over Freddy because they decide Jason is the LesserOfTwoEvils between them. There was also a pragmatic reason for the protagonists supporting Jason over Freddy. While Jason may have had a bigger body count, he's generally less dangerous because he tends to stay in Camp Crystal Lake unless provoked. Freddy actively hunts for victims and can kill you anywhere in the world as long as you're asleep.



* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: '''Jason''', of all people, comes off as one of these, especially during his Dream World battle with Freddy. Loads of fans root for Jason over Freddy; he may be a mindless supernatural killing machine, but at least he's not a child killer. Jason's actor was specifically recast to an actor who could emote with his eyes and make them sympathetic.

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: '''Jason''', of all people, comes off as one of these, especially during his Dream World battle with Freddy. Loads of fans root for Jason over Freddy; he may be a mindless supernatural killing machine, but at least he's not a child killer. Jason's actor was specifically recast to an actor who could emote with his eyes and make them sympathetic.
30th Jul '17 12:14:18 PM enigmaniac
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* EvilVersusEvil: Freddy Krueger vs. Jason Voorhees. Both are mass-murdering serial killers. The winner is [[EvasiveFightThreadEpisode fuzzy]], but on the whole most people find themselves siding with the guy who isn't a child molester (even if he does have many, many more kills). Even the ''heroes'' end up rooting for Jason over Freddy because they decide Jason is the LesserOfTwoEvils between them. There was also a pragmatic reason for the protagonists supporting Jason over Freddy. While Jason may have had a bigger body count, he's generally less dangerous because he tends to stay in Camp Crystal Lake unless provoked. Freddy actively hunts for victims and can kill you anywhere in the world as long as you're asleep.

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* EvilVersusEvil: Freddy Krueger vs. Jason Voorhees. Both are mass-murdering serial killers. The winner is [[EvasiveFightThreadEpisode fuzzy]], but on the whole most people find themselves siding with the guy who isn't a child molester killer (even if he does have many, many more kills). Even the ''heroes'' end up rooting for Jason over Freddy because they decide Jason is the LesserOfTwoEvils between them. There was also a pragmatic reason for the protagonists supporting Jason over Freddy. While Jason may have had a bigger body count, he's generally less dangerous because he tends to stay in Camp Crystal Lake unless provoked. Freddy actively hunts for victims and can kill you anywhere in the world as long as you're asleep.



* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: '''Jason''', of all people, comes off as one of these, especially during his Dream World battle with Freddy. Loads of fans root for Jason over Freddy; he may be a mindless supernatural killing machine, but at least he's not a child molester and expressly sadistic murderer. Jason's actor was specifically recast to an actor who could emote with his eyes and make them sympathetic.
* YouExclamation: When Lori interupts Jason's nightmare in which Freddy is killing him through drowning, Jason vanishes from the dream as he wakes up. Freddy turns to Lori, lets out an enraged "YOU!", and focuses his attention on her.

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: '''Jason''', of all people, comes off as one of these, especially during his Dream World battle with Freddy. Loads of fans root for Jason over Freddy; he may be a mindless supernatural killing machine, but at least he's not a child molester and expressly sadistic murderer.killer. Jason's actor was specifically recast to an actor who could emote with his eyes and make them sympathetic.
* YouExclamation: When Lori interupts interrupts Jason's nightmare in which Freddy is killing him through drowning, Jason vanishes from the dream as he wakes up. Freddy turns to Lori, lets out an enraged "YOU!", and focuses his attention on her.
6th Jul '17 6:18:55 PM Shadoboy
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** A scrapped ending was also a cliffhanger: [[spoiler: It shows Freddy and Jason, now deep in Hell, still fighting, until [[Franchise/{{Hellraiser}} Pinhead]] walks into the scene and says "Gentlemen, what seems to be the problem?"]]
4th Jul '17 8:36:42 AM Mujaki
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* TheCameo: Robert Shaye, who was a producer on every ''Elm Street'' film (as well as ''Freddy vs. Jason''), appears as high school principal Mr. [[TheDanza Shaye]]. There is also a cameo by Oscar "[[ReyMysterioJr Rey Mysterio]]" Guitierrez, according to the IMDB, presumably as Creator/RobertEnglund's stunt double during the second fight scene, where [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Freddy demonstrates some unusual dexterity.]]

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* TheCameo: Robert Shaye, who was a producer on every ''Elm Street'' film (as well as ''Freddy vs. Jason''), appears as high school principal Mr. [[TheDanza Mr. Shaye]]. There is also a cameo by Oscar "[[ReyMysterioJr Rey Mysterio]]" Guitierrez, according an uncredited [[ReyMysterioJr Óscar Gutiérrez]][[note]]according to the IMDB, presumably IMDB. He served as Creator/RobertEnglund's stunt double twice - first, under the layers of "Demon Freddy" makeup during the dream sequence when Lori wanders around Camp Crystal Lake (specifically, when Freddy rockets out of the lake and onto the pier) and second, during the second fight scene, where [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Freddy demonstrates some unusual dexterity.]]]] He may also have been [[TeensAreShort one of the extras]] during the rave sequence, but that part is unconfirmed as of 2016[[/note]].
2nd Jul '17 6:20:31 PM CrowTR0bot
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** Earlier in their rematch, Freddy falls victim to a more elaborate version of this. After pinning Jason to the spot by impaling him with some falling rebar, Freddy sends a heavy container full of sand on a rope swinging around to smack Jason several times. While Jason is being pummeled by the container, Freddy tries to push a cart full of sand down a ramp at him, but it gets stuck, much to his frustration. He gets on the ramp to try to dislodge it, but eventually the first container swings by, hits the ramp, and causes Freddy to fall and get his pant leg caught on the container, leaving him hanging upside down and utterly defenseless as he swings towards a now ''supremely pissed Jason.'' To add insult to injury, [[UpToEleven the cart eventually does get dislodged]], hitting them both.
1st Jul '17 3:04:06 PM nombretomado
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** According to TheOtherWiki, one planned yet scrapped ending had Jason and Freddy finding themselves in Hell and about to continue their fight there, only to have hooked chains spring in from nowhere to pin them both in place. As both struggle, they hear a familiar (to us) voice: "Gentlemen, is there a problem?" In walks [[Franchise/HellRaiser Pinhead]], end scene.

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** According to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, one planned yet scrapped ending had Jason and Freddy finding themselves in Hell and about to continue their fight there, only to have hooked chains spring in from nowhere to pin them both in place. As both struggle, they hear a familiar (to us) voice: "Gentlemen, is there a problem?" In walks [[Franchise/HellRaiser Pinhead]], end scene.
15th Jun '17 11:23:28 AM Nick7689
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* DavidVsGoliath: Freddie (played by the 5'8 Robert Englund) vs Jason (played by the 6'7 Ken Kirzinger).

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* DavidVsGoliath: Freddie Freddy (played by the 5'8 Robert Englund) vs Jason (played by the 6'7 Ken Kirzinger).
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