History Film / FortySevenRonin

8th Jul '17 9:20:19 AM ironballs16
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Very loosely, turning the original story into a fantasy setting with monsters and magic. Looser still turning it into a love story rather than the RevengePlot it literally was.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Very loosely, turning the original story into a fantasy setting with monsters and magic. Looser still turning it into a love story rather than the RevengePlot revenge plot it literally was.
8th Jul '17 9:19:19 AM ironballs16
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Very loosely, turning the original story into a fantasy setting with monsters and magic. Looser still turning it into a love story...

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Very loosely, turning the original story into a fantasy setting with monsters and magic. Looser still turning it into a love story...story rather than the RevengePlot it literally was.
5th Jun '17 5:30:03 PM HighCrate
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** Oishi as well. After he takes over for Lord Asano, he's GenreSavvy enough to realize that if they attacked Lord Kira now, the people of Ako would be slaughtered in retaliation.

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** Oishi as well. After he takes over for Lord Asano, he's GenreSavvy enough to realize he realizes that if they attacked Lord Kira now, the people of Ako would be slaughtered in retaliation.



* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Oishi is also GenreSavvy enough to realize that if they did attack after Lord Asano's forced {{Seppuku}}, then the people of Ako would be slaughtered down to the last man, woman, and child so they instead turn their sword down before the Shogun. The latter is also is GenreSavvy enough to realize that what just happened wouldn't sit well with his followers. So he makes them ronin, or masterless samurai, and orders them specifically to not attack Lord Kira or seek vengeance, probably also with the implication that Ako would be attacked by all the other Japanese provinces in retaliation. [[spoiler:However, they do eventually end up doing this, though it takes at least a year to do so, mostly because Oishi was in jail for that time, but also to throw off Lord Kira's heightened security immediately following Lord Asano's death.]]

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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Oishi is also GenreSavvy enough to realize realizes that if they did attack after Lord Asano's forced {{Seppuku}}, then the people of Ako would be slaughtered down to the last man, woman, and child so they instead turn their sword down before the Shogun. The latter is also is GenreSavvy enough to realize realizes that what just happened wouldn't sit well with his followers. So he makes them ronin, or masterless samurai, and orders them specifically to not attack Lord Kira or seek vengeance, probably also with the implication that Ako would be attacked by all the other Japanese provinces in retaliation. [[spoiler:However, they do eventually end up doing this, though it takes at least a year to do so, mostly because Oishi was in jail for that time, but also to throw off Lord Kira's heightened security immediately following Lord Asano's death.]]
4th May '17 2:43:15 PM StFan
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* DecoyProtagonist[=/=]SupportingProtagonist: Between Kai and Oishi. [[spoiler:Kai saved the girl, but it was Oishi who defeated the BigBad.]]
* DragonInChief: Mizuki the witch. Literally becomes one at the end of the film as well.

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* DecoyProtagonist[=/=]SupportingProtagonist: DecoyProtagonist: Between Kai and Oishi. [[spoiler:Kai saved the girl, but it was Oishi who defeated the BigBad.]]
* DragonInChief: TheDragon: Mizuki the witch. Literally becomes one at the end of the film as well.



* DressCodedForYourConvenience:
** Lord Kira's samurai wear a black and silver uniform.
** Lord Asano and his men wear red and gold, the colors of celebration in East Asian cultures.
** Mika wears a white dress during her marriage ceremony -- ''white is a mourning color for Japanese, not a celebratory one''. This was a StealthInsult to Lord Kira and a way to show she still mourned her father and clan.
** Lord Kira has flowing hair, not tied in the traditional Samurai ''chonmage'' [[SamuraiPonytail top knot]], even in festive occasions and in front of the Shogun himself. This was a violation of the Samurai dress code and a way to show he didn't care for tradition and had no respect for authority.



* ExactWords: The witch prophesied correctly how Lord Kira will be paraded throughout Japan and people bow before him in towns and villages, how his name will last... just he was [[{{Irony}} paraded as a severed head]] and his name lasts to present day as one of the greatest [[JerkAss JerkAsses]] of Japan.

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* ExactWords: The witch prophesied correctly how Lord Kira will be paraded throughout Japan and people bow before him in towns and villages, how his name will last... just he was [[{{Irony}} paraded as a severed head]] and his name lasts to present day as one of the greatest [[JerkAss JerkAsses]] {{Jerkasses}} of Japan.



* EvilWearsBlack[=/=]DressCodedForYourConvenience:
** Lord Kira's samurai wear a black and silver uniform.
** Lord Asano and his men wear red and gold, the colors of celebration in East Asian cultures.
** Mika wears a white dress during her marriage ceremony - ''white is a mourning color for Japanese, not a celebratory one''. This was a StealthInsult to Lord Kira and a way to show she still mourned her father and clan.
** Lord Kira has flowing hair, not tied in the traditional Samurai ''chonmage'' [[SamuraiPonytail top knot]], even in festive occasions and in front of the Shogun himself. This was a violation of the Samurai dress code and a way to show he didn't care for tradition and had no respect for authority.



* {{Flynning}}: Averted. Many scenes involve the samurai/ronin go for the kill, sometimes brutally so. It happens in its classic form during Oishi's fight on the Dutch Island with maddened Kai, since neither wants to kill, but subdue. Japanese swordsmanship avoided at all costs the edge to edge contact of the blades for show.

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* {{Flynning}}: Averted. Many scenes involve the samurai/ronin go for the kill, sometimes brutally so. It happens in its classic form during Oishi's fight on the Dutch Island with maddened Kai, since neither wants to kill, but subdue. Japanese swordsmanship avoided at all costs the edge to edge edge-to-edge contact of the blades for show.



* HalfBreedDiscrimination: Kai gets hit with it hard. It's the reason he was enslaved.
** He even gets it twofold, partially for being half English, and then partially for being said to be part demon.

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* HalfBreedDiscrimination: Kai gets hit with it hard. It's the reason he was enslaved. \n** He even gets it twofold, partially for being half English, and then partially for being said to be part demon.



* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: When Oishi first sees Kai in the port town after his release from the pit, the latter is fighting a very large man. After he wins, Oishi attempts to talk to him, only for Kai to attack. Oishi attempts to get Kai to recognize him, but the latter doesn't seem to care until he mentions Lady Asano being married off to Lord Kira if they don't stop it.



* {{Irony}}: The words Mizuki tells Lord Kira about him being paraded through towns with people bowing to him. See the ExactWords trope for more description.

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* {{Irony}}: {{Irony}}:
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The words Mizuki tells Lord Kira about him being paraded through towns with people bowing to him. See the ExactWords trope for more description.description.
** Kai is hated and despised throughout his life for being a half-breed, treated as a dangerous savage, a demon spawn. The character which mostly deserves such treatment, the witch (who is not even human, cruel, murderous) is a highly respected lady, concubine of a Daimyo.



* TheKingslayer: During the climax battle in Lord Kira's castle, the leader of the ''ronin'' managed to defeat Lord Kira and take his head, signifying their victory.
* {{Kitsune}}: The witch is strongly implied to be one - seductive, shapeshifter, a mistress of plotting and trickery, most of the time turns into fox-form.
* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: When Oishi first sees Kai in the port town after his release from the pit, the latter is fighting a very large man. After he wins, Oishi attempts to talk to him, only for Kai to attack. Oishi attempts to get Kai to recognize him, but the latter doesn't seem to care until he mentions Lady Asano being married off to Lord Kira if they don't stop it.

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* TheKingslayer: During the climax battle in Lord Kira's castle, the leader of the ''ronin'' managed manages to defeat Lord Kira and take his head, signifying their victory.
* {{Kitsune}}: The witch is strongly implied to be one - -- seductive, shapeshifter, a mistress of plotting and trickery, most of the time turns into fox-form.
* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: When Oishi first sees Kai in the port town after his release from the pit, the latter is fighting a very large man. After he wins, Oishi attempts to talk to him, only for Kai to attack. Oishi attempts to get Kai to recognize him, but the latter doesn't seem to care until he mentions Lady Asano being married off to Lord Kira if they don't stop it.
fox-form.



* LivingMacguffin: Uh...the BigBad himself. Beyond killing a sparring partner and ordering Oishi tossed down a pit early on, he accomplishes ''literally nothing'' throughout the movie that Mizuki doesn't do for him, instead having a role consisting of reacting to what people tell him and running when people try to kill him. He's simply an object to be destroyed.

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* LivingMacguffin: Uh... the BigBad himself. Beyond killing a sparring partner and ordering Oishi tossed down a pit early on, he accomplishes ''literally nothing'' throughout the movie that Mizuki doesn't do for him, instead having a role consisting of reacting to what people tell him and running when people try to kill him. He's simply an object to be destroyed.



* MightyWhitey: Kai is half-white, raised by Tengu, possesses magical abilities none of his fellow samurai do, and raises to a position above what should have been possible for a man of his lineage[[note]]while common warriors had been inducted as Samurai during Japan's past, in the rigid society of the Edo Period this was a near impossibility for a non-Japanese of suspicious background[[/note]], and while he is one of the main protagonists who rescues the princess, ultimately the true hero of the story is Oishi, who slays the BigBad and led his men, including Kai, to victory.
** In-setting, Kai qualifies both for his half-English heritage and the fact that he learned magic powers from being raised by tengu. From an audience standpoint, the entirety of the movie seems designed to evoke the "Exotic Orient".
*** Of course, Kai's fighting skills and magic abilities all come from ''Japanese beings'', as well as being raised from childhood among Samurai. Everything special about Kai comes from locals, so the MightyWhitey aspect is downplayed. If anything, his heritage is a huge problem, since people don't trust him. [[spoiler: And in the end, he dies just like all other Ronin.]]
** IronicEcho: Kai is hated and despised throughout his life for being a half-breed, treated as a dangerous savage, a demon spawn. The character which mostly deserves such treatment, the witch (who is not even human, cruel, murderous) is a highly respected lady, concubine of a Daimyo.

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* MightyWhitey: Kai is half-white, raised by Tengu, possesses magical abilities none of his fellow samurai do, and raises to a position above what should have been possible for a man of his lineage[[note]]while common warriors had been inducted as Samurai during Japan's past, in the rigid society of the Edo Period this was a near impossibility for a non-Japanese of suspicious background[[/note]], and while he is one of the main protagonists who rescues the princess, ultimately the true hero of the story is Oishi, who slays the BigBad and led his men, including Kai, to victory.
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victory. In-setting, Kai qualifies both for his half-English heritage and the fact that he learned magic powers from being raised by tengu. From an audience standpoint, the entirety of the movie seems designed to evoke the "Exotic Orient".
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Orient". Of course, Kai's fighting skills and magic abilities all come from ''Japanese beings'', as well as being raised from childhood among Samurai. Everything special about Kai comes from locals, so the MightyWhitey aspect is downplayed. If anything, his heritage is a huge problem, since people don't trust him. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And in the end, he dies just like all other Ronin.]]
** IronicEcho: Kai is hated and despised throughout his life for being a half-breed, treated as a dangerous savage, a demon spawn. The character which mostly deserves such treatment, the witch (who is not even human, cruel, murderous) is a highly respected lady, concubine of a Daimyo.
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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler: Mizuki gave a distressed Mika the knife so she could kill herself. Instead she hid it in her person to use on Kira so she could escape.]]

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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: NiceJobFixingItVillain:
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[[spoiler: Mizuki gave a distressed Mika the knife so she could kill herself. Instead she hid it in her person to use on Kira so she could escape.]]



* SecretTestOfCharacter: [[spoiler: For Oishi.]] Though [[spoiler: Kai]] subverts this somewhat by forewarning him and also telling him how to pass the test. Not that it was easy for him however, as he was told to save his men as they were being slain left and right.

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* SecretTestOfCharacter: [[spoiler: For [[spoiler:For Oishi.]] Though [[spoiler: Kai]] [[spoiler:Kai]] subverts this somewhat by forewarning him and also telling him how to pass the test. Not that it was is easy for him however, as he was told to save his men as they were are being slain left and right.



* SoleSurvivor: Oishi's son is given a last minute reprieve.

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* SoleSurvivor: Oishi's son is given a last minute last-minute reprieve.



* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Very loosely, turning the original story into a fantasy setting with monsters and magic.
** Looser still turning it into a love story...
* WretchedHive: The 'Dutch Island', an artificial atoll made from European trading ships that Oishi visits after being released from the pit to find Kai, who's now being forced to fight to the death in a ring.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Very loosely, turning the original story into a fantasy setting with monsters and magic.
**
magic. Looser still turning it into a love story...
* WretchedHive: The 'Dutch Island', "Dutch Island", an artificial atoll made from European trading ships that Oishi visits after being released from the pit to find Kai, who's now being forced to fight to the death in a ring.
3rd Dec '16 2:08:50 AM Xtifr
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'''''47 Ronin''''' is a 2013 fantasy/action film loosely based on the story of UsefulNotes/The47Ronin. ''Very'' loosely.

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'''''47 Ronin''''' ''47 Ronin'' is a 2013 fantasy/action film loosely based on the story of UsefulNotes/The47Ronin. ''Very'' loosely.
9th Nov '16 5:54:41 AM darkchiefy
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* PerformerGuise: The ronin halt a group of kabuki performers who are going to perform for Lord Kira's wedding ceremony and some of them assume their guise, while the others do a silent assault on Lord Kira's fort.
26th Sep '16 6:49:14 PM jamespolk
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'''''Forty-Seven Ronin''''' (officially titled '''''47 Ronin''''') is a 2013 fantasy/action film loosely based on the story of UsefulNotes/The47Ronin. ''Very'' loosely.

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'''''Forty-Seven '''''47 Ronin''''' (officially titled '''''47 Ronin''''') is a 2013 fantasy/action film loosely based on the story of UsefulNotes/The47Ronin. ''Very'' loosely.


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Compare ''Film/The47Ronin'', a four-hour epic adaptation of the "47 ronin" story made in UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan in 1941 and 1942.
17th Aug '16 3:42:36 PM Nautilus1
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* {{Flynning}}: Averted. Many scenes involve the samurai/ronin go for the kill, sometimes brutally so

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* {{Flynning}}: Averted. Many scenes involve the samurai/ronin go for the kill, sometimes brutally soso. It happens in its classic form during Oishi's fight on the Dutch Island with maddened Kai, since neither wants to kill, but subdue. Japanese swordsmanship avoided at all costs the edge to edge contact of the blades for show.
26th Jan '16 7:22:17 AM InsomniacWeasel
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* AbsurdlySharpBlade: Tengu swords, but only in the hands of a brave and skillful warrior. In the hands of a coward, they become completely dull.


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* UncannyValley: The tengu, rather than possessing their traditional, long-nosed masks (which the filmmakers must've thought would look silly to a Western audience) appear to be freakish bird-human hybrids, with a nose that's somewhat between a human one and a fleshy, pointy beak. Combined with their yellow bird eyes and monotone speech, the end result is very creepy.
26th Dec '15 2:28:25 AM SutairuMasuta
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Outcast from society and enslaved due to being half-Japanese, half-British, a man named Kai (Creator/KeanuReeves) encounters the eponymous ronin. They, of course, are samurai out to get revenge for the death of their master. His killer, Lord Kira, is allied with a wicked witch (Creator/RinkoKikuchi) who controls supernatural forces threatening the land which Kai and the ronin must defeat.

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Outcast from society and enslaved due to being half-Japanese, half-British, a man named Kai (Creator/KeanuReeves) encounters the eponymous ronin.ronin, led by Oishi (Creator/HiroyukiSanada). They, of course, are samurai out to get revenge for the death of their master. His killer, Lord Kira, is allied with a wicked witch (Creator/RinkoKikuchi) who controls supernatural forces threatening the land which Kai and the ronin must defeat.
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