History Film / Constantine

1st Apr '18 10:06:11 AM smasll_lordvoice
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* DoesNotLikeShoes: Lucifer, who is otherwise well-coiffed. WordOfGod states that the reason Stormare's feet are dripping with goo is that he must pollute the ground to walk on it.

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* DoesNotLikeShoes: Lucifer, who is otherwise well-coiffed. WordOfGod states that the reason Stormare's feet are dripping with goo is that he must pollute the ground to walk on it. Neither does Gabriel when she([[AmbiguousGender ?]]) isn't wearing a suit, which implies this is a standard angelic trait.


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* TheMirrorShowsYourTrueSelf: A variation. When Lucifer appears as a well-dressed Peter Stormare in the climax, he appears as a thrashing, animalistic beast in the reflection on the tiled hospital floor.
9th Dec '17 10:32:25 PM NOYB
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** Papa Midnite subverts the cigarillo trope by being a good/neutral witch-doctor turned bartender.

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** Papa Midnite subverts the cigarillo trope by being a good/neutral witch-doctor witch doctor turned bartender.



* RetiredBadass: Papa Midnite, a magi so powerful that he took on 30 demons by himself. Doesn't need special tools as he has actual magical powers. And powerful enough to create his own embassy of neutrality where hybrids mix and behave under his watch.

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* RetiredBadass: Papa Midnite, a magi mage so powerful that he took on 30 demons by himself. Doesn't need special tools as he has actual magical powers. And powerful enough to create his own embassy of neutrality where hybrids mix and behave under his watch.



* TruceZone: Papa Midnite's bar was agreed to such a place by God and Satan.

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* TruceZone: Papa Midnite's bar was agreed to be such a place by God and Satan.



** When John goes to confront the half-demon Balthazar he tells his potential LoveInterest Angela Dodson to stay in the car. After a while she decides to go after him, ends up losing the amulet he gave her to protect her and is captured by their enemies.

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** When John goes to confront the half-demon Balthazar he tells his potential LoveInterest Angela Dodson to stay in the car. After a while she decides to go after him, ends up losing the amulet he gave her to protect her her, and is captured by their enemies.
3rd Dec '17 5:27:57 AM Veanne
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* ArtisticLicensePhysics: Blink and you miss it - there's a whistle of steam from a kettle. A kettle ''that has no a whistle'' (gas only whistles when passing through a narrow slit, so teakettles need a special thingamaboob in order to whistle, otherwise all you can hear is the water boiling).
17th Nov '17 6:22:29 PM Czigot
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**Aside from being dead, of course.
28th Sep '17 4:43:42 PM ClintEastwood
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-->'''Roger Ebert:''' Why do movies about {{Satan}} always have Catholics? You never see Methodists or Episcopalians putting down demons.

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-->'''Roger Ebert:''' -->'''Creator/RogerEbert:''' Why do movies about {{Satan}} always have Catholics? You never see Methodists or Episcopalians putting down demons.



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* ToHellAndBack: Constantine is such an expert at doing this, he even teaches Angela to do it once.



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%% MetaCasting * MetaCasting: Keanu Reeves was a very... ''odd'' choice to play John Constantine, but as it says elsewhere, the movie is already on YMMVgood if you don't mind its InNameOnly connection to the comic book. So as long as the protagonist doesn't have to be a fast-talking scouse AntiHero... who better for the role than Film/TheDevilsAdvocate?



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* ToHellAndBack: Constantine is such an expert at doing this, he even teaches Angela to do it once.



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17th Sep '17 4:15:26 PM MarcusSLazarus
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** The novelisation slightly justifies this by explaining that Constantine's weapons focus on Christian holy relics as he comes from a Christian culture, giving him a greater innate understanding of their power that increases their effectiveness.



* RedemptionEarnsLife: [[spoiler:By giving up his soul to save the world and freeing an innocent soul from Hell, Constantine is redeemed of his past sins and allowed to go to Heaven. Refusing to let that happen, Satan restores him to life and cures his lung cancer]].

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* RedemptionEarnsLife: [[spoiler:By Slightly subverted; [[spoiler:by giving up his soul to save the world and freeing an innocent soul from Hell, Constantine is redeemed of his past sins and allowed to go to Heaven. Refusing to let that happen, His life is restored nevertheless, but only because Satan restores him to life and cures his lung cancer]].cancer so that Constantine will have another chance to 'prove' that he belongs in Hell]].
17th Sep '17 4:07:09 PM MarcusSLazarus
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** Subverted in that [[spoiler:if Constantine ''had'' been trying to 'scam' Lucifer, it wouldn't have worked; he only got into Heaven because him saving Isabel was done because he genuinely did something for someone else, not because he wanted to win points]].
17th Sep '17 4:03:46 PM MarcusSLazarus
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** This is somewhat justified in the novelisation, where Constantine explains that he focuses on these relics because his natural understanding of them based on his background means that they are more powerful than alternatives might be.
19th Aug '17 2:11:59 PM Timjames98
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** A major plot point in the film is that, according to Catholic doctrine, people who commit suicide always go to Hell. This has not been the case since 1997, when the Church decided that people who were mentally ill were not entirely responsible for their actions if they chose to take their own life. At least one of the suicides in the film was committed by a mental patient. Constantine's suicide is more complicated, since suicide is only an unforgivable sin because you can't repent for it before you die. Constantine is brought back to life, so he can repent. However, as Constantine died and saw hell, he has ''already'' been condemned in the eyes of God. Also, as the concept of brain death has become better understood, there's been serious debate in the Catholic community as to whether or not a person can commit suicide, and repent in the few seconds before the brain shuts down.
** When Constantine mentions the "SpearOfDestiny" and says "Jesus wasn't killed by crucifixion," the Catholic he's responding to replies with "I'm a Catholic, John. I know the Crucifixion story." Except in the Bible, Jesus ''was'' killed by crucifixion, and a spear was only used to poke his corpse to demonstrate he was already dead. There are people who think that Jesus was "really" killed by the spear, but those tend to be people who claim the Biblical account is ''wrong''. No one would be able to teach the theory from the Bible, certainly not in Sunday School.

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** A major plot point in the film is that, according to Catholic doctrine, people who commit suicide always go to Hell. This has not been the case since 1997, when the Church decided concluded that while suicide is a grave matter people who were mentally ill were not entirely responsible for their actions if they chose to take their own life. lives might still be saved [[note]] in the Catholic Church the three requirements for a sin to be mortal is that it be a grave matter, that it be committed with full knowledge, and that it be committed with deliberate consent. While suicide is a grave matter, one or both of the other two requirements for the sin to be damning might be missing. Likewise the concept of brain death means a person who commits suicide might be able to repent in the moments before death[[/note]]. At least one of the suicides in the film was committed by a mental patient. Constantine's patient and she is shown being denied a catholic funeral and being damned to Hell for this - in reality she would not have been denied such a funeral (with the service especially asking God to be merciful) and her mental illness would have made her suicide is more complicated, since non-mortal. Another suicide in the film, Constantine's, is only an unforgivable sin because you can't repent for it before you die. Constantine is even less likely to result in damnation as he was brought back to life, so he life and can repent. However, as Constantine died and saw hell, he has ''already'' been condemned therefore repent afterwards. Even his seeing Hell, contrary to what the film states, would not "condemn" him in the eyes of God. Also, as the concept of brain God because only permanent death has become better understood, there's been serious debate in the Catholic community as to whether or not can prevent a person can commit suicide, from repenting. In fact there are people in real life who claim to have seen Hell in near-death experiences and repent in the few seconds before the brain shuts down.
who repented upon recovery because of this - virtually no theologian would argue that they are already damned for having seen Hell.
** When Constantine mentions the "SpearOfDestiny" and says "Jesus wasn't killed by crucifixion," the Catholic he's responding to replies with "I'm a Catholic, John. I know the Crucifixion story." Except in the Bible, Jesus ''was'' killed by crucifixion, and a spear was only used to poke his corpse to demonstrate he was already dead. There are people who think that Jesus was "really" killed by the spear, but those tend to be people who claim the Biblical account is ''wrong''. No one would be able to teach the theory from the Bible, certainly not in Sunday School. Additionally the Spear of Destiny (or rather the "Spears" as there are four churches that claim to have the real one) is actually considered a Holy Relic and is called the Holy Lance. It's unlikely to cause demonic possession in those who possess it.
17th Aug '17 3:28:09 PM Morgenthaler
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* AngelicTransformation: In the climax, Gabriel is de-winged as punishment for plotting to unleash Mammon upon the world, leaving a pair of bloody stumps. Constantine introduces [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous them]] to pain with a punch to the mouth.
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