History Film / CaptainAmericatheWinterSoldier

19th Mar '17 8:34:12 PM RayAP9
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* NonchalantDodge: The Winter Soldier calmly sidesteps around [[spoiler:Nick Fury's]] flaming, careening vehicle, after the former detonated a [[SmartGun smart mine]] underneath it.
18th Mar '17 10:11:10 AM nighttrainfm
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** The makers of ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpk1TE2_Gcc ask]][[note]]Start at 5:08[[/note]] [[WordOfGod the Russo Brothers]], "In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is it just a coincidence that Mace Windu looks like Nick Fury, or is it like in ''Film/LastActionHero'' where Sylvester Stallone plays all the Arnold Schwarzenegger parts?"[[note]]Stallone appears on a ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' poster in ''Last Action Hero''[[/note]] Anthony Russo [[ShrugOfGod simply responds]], "I'm getting a headache."

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** The makers of ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpk1TE2_Gcc ask]][[note]]Start at 5:08[[/note]] [[WordOfGod the Russo Brothers]], "In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is it just a coincidence that Mace Windu looks like Nick Fury, or is it like in ''Film/LastActionHero'' where Sylvester Stallone plays all the Arnold Schwarzenegger parts?"[[note]]Stallone appears on a ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' poster in ''Last Action Hero''[[/note]] Anthony Russo [[ShrugOfGod simply responds]], "I'm getting a headache."You're hurting my brain."
18th Mar '17 9:20:24 AM nighttrainfm
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* DoNotAdjustYourSet: Audio-only example -- Steve broadcasts over the Triskelion that [[spoiler:S.H.I.E.L.D. has been infiltrated by HYDRA]].

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* DoNotAdjustYourSet: Audio-only example -- Steve broadcasts over the Triskelion that [[spoiler:S.H.I.E.L.D. has been infiltrated by HYDRA]].HYDRA.]]



* DramaticIrony: Perhaps an unintentional case, but even so, Marvel had already decided to roll with it. By the time the movie premiered, almost everyone knew that the Winter Soldier was [[spoiler:Bucky]]. The tension and drama surrounding his identity doesn't come from the audience not knowing, but from Steve not knowing.

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* DramaticIrony: Perhaps an unintentional case, but even so, Marvel had already decided to roll with it. By the time the movie premiered, almost everyone knew that the Winter Soldier was [[spoiler:Bucky]]. [[spoiler:Bucky.]] The tension and drama surrounding his identity doesn't come from the audience not knowing, but from Steve not knowing.
17th Mar '17 10:43:03 AM MagBas
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* HellIsThatNoise: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B1mHL-Zegg The awful screeching noise that acts as the Winter Soldier's]] {{Leitmotif}}.
10th Mar '17 4:37:46 PM NightShade96
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* RealityEnsues:
** Falcon has been redesigned to sport a pair of goggles, which he would need to protect his eyes while flying. His wings are also larger than they are in the comics, making them closer to the size needed to hold a human aloft, and the backpack sports a small afterburner.
** When Cap gives his rousing speech about [[spoiler:S.H.I.E.L.D. being taken over by Hydra, many of the rank and file are quick to try and back him up. Sadly, they are unfortunately unable to provide much in the way of backup, as they are mostly composed of desk agents, paper-pushers, and regular security guys up against the Insight and STRIKE team agents, who have way more experience and training in violent situations... along with an enhanced assassin with a cybernetic arm. As a consequence, they get slaughtered in droves.]]

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* RealityEnsues:
** Falcon has been redesigned to sport a pair of goggles, which he would need to protect his eyes while flying. His wings are also larger than they are in the comics, making them closer to the size needed to hold a human aloft, and the backpack sports a small afterburner.
** When Cap gives his rousing speech about [[spoiler:S.H.I.E.L.D. being taken over by Hydra, many of the rank and file are quick to try and back him up. Sadly, they are unfortunately unable to provide much in the way of backup, as they are mostly composed of desk agents, paper-pushers, and regular security guys up against the Insight and STRIKE team agents, who have way more experience and training in violent situations... along with an enhanced assassin with a cybernetic arm. As a consequence, they get slaughtered in droves.]]
RealityEnsues: Has [[RealityEnsues/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its own page]].
10th Mar '17 4:32:33 PM NightShade96
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* MythologyGag:
** The scene where Cap jumps out of a plane without bothering to use a parachute is a reference to a similar scene from the first issue of ''The Ultimates''.
--->'''Rollins:''' Was he wearing a parachute?\\
'''Rumlow:''' ''[smiles]'' No. No, he wasn't.
** Like in the first film, [[spoiler:Bucky makes use of Cap's shield]] as a reference to his time as Captain America in the comics.
** Batroc uses a very acrobatic fighting style in reference to his origins as an acrobat who took up crime. He's also wearing a yellow and purple top, in subdued tones compared to the goofy outfit he wears in the comics.
** Though he's largely influenced by his Ultimate counterpart, Sam Wilson is a VA counsellor who helps soldiers with PTSD as a nod to his 616 background as a social worker.
** Natasha's Tiffany & Co. necklace happens to be the [[Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}} arrow]] one.
** The freighter Batroc hijacks in the beginning is named the ''Lemurian Star''. This is a reference to Lemuria, the sunken continent that was home to the Deviants, a race of superhumans created by Creator/JackKirby.
** Captain America's new costume is the same one Steve Rogers wore in the ''Heroic Age'' arc in the comics, after he stepped down from his role as Captain America. Except, in the comics, Steve's outfit didn't have the cowl.
** [[ComicBook/DoctorStrange Dr. Stephen Strange]] is named at one point as one of the targets of [[spoiler:Project Insight]].
** We see an old S.H.I.E.L.D. emblem, which is identical to the original logo from the comics.
** Natasha uses camotech to disguise herself. The technology is a favourite of Bobbi Morse/Comicbook/{{Mockingbird}}, a fellow spy in the comics, who at one point in ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' used it to pretend to be Natasha as a prank.
** After being defeated by Falcon and left for dead, the burns and injuries [[spoiler:Rumlow]] sustains to his face cause him to more closely resemble his comic book counterpart, [[spoiler:Crossbones]].
** When Rumlow takes off his vest to fight Falcon, the straps across his chest resemble the crossbones on the costume of his comics equivalent.
** S.H.I.E.L.D. had been [[spoiler:infiltrated by Nazis in the first arc of ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'']] as well. Also in that story, Captain America took control of a system to address all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents at once, warning them of the infiltration and that the big thing going on served the bad guy's goals.
** A now obscure 1988 limited-series comic, ''Nick Fury Vs. S.H.I.E.L.D.'', had Fury stumbling onto S.H.I.E.L.D. being subverted from within, leading to him being targeted by his own organization, revelations that the subversion existed nearly since S.H.I.E.L.D.'s founding and before Fury became director, and then concluded with most of the organization's infrastructure in ruins and the total disbanding of S.H.I.E.L.D. by Fury. The limited-series was also where the (minor) character, Alexander Pierce, debuted.
** While not humanoid in form, this incarnation's upgraded version of [[spoiler:Arnim Zola]] retains the traditional [[spoiler:monitor "body" and one-eyed "head" from his comic book counterpart with the computer monitor and the camera]].
** "When did Captain America learn how to steal a car?" This moment is possibly a shout out to the [[Film/CaptainAmerica1990 1990 film]], where Cap's constant carjacking was an unintentional RunningGag.
** The Baxter building, headquarters of the Comicbook/FantasticFour, is seen as [[spoiler:one of the targets of the Helicarriers]] in a blink-and-you'll miss it scene. Doubles as an ActorAllusion, as Chris Evans played the Human Torch in the ''[[Film/FantasticFour2005 Fantastic Four]]'' films. [[invoked]]
** The [[spoiler:"Who the hell is Bucky?"]] line is straight from the comics.
** [[spoiler:Baron von Strucker]] in TheStinger is [[spoiler:experimenting on [[Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}} twins]] with [[Comicbook/ScarletWitch superpowers]]]]. In the comics, [[spoiler:Strucker actually subjected his own twins to a treatment which gave them superpowers]].
** Scarlet Witch's debut appearance in the MCU shows her levitating shaped blocks. The ''X-Men'' debut comic shows Jean Grey doing the same.
** The phrase "Operation: Zemo" can be seen in the Cap's Smithsonian exhibit. Baron Zemo is one of Cap's deadliest longtime foes in the comics.
** Creator/EdBrubaker having a cameo as one of the scientists working on Winter Soldier works as a meta-textual instance: In the real world, [[ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier he created the Winter Soldier in his writing]]. In the film, he plays a character who creates the Winter Soldier physically.
** Cap's list of the things he missed includes the Moon Landing. Towards the beginning of the Winter Soldier comic arc, Cap regrets that he was not around in the 1960s to go into the space program because his body was made for those risks. In Comicbook/HouseOfM continuity, Cap was the first man on the moon.
** During the final fight between Captain America and Winter Soldier, the latter shoots him in the same spot from ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfCaptainAmerica''.
** Nick Fury's [[spoiler:blind eye playing an important part]] calls back to the Creator/DavidHasselhoff portrayal of Nick Fury, where [[spoiler:his eyepatch concealed a bunch of emergency tools, including ''plastic explosive'']]. Which is also amusing, since both of them involve cracking open a door!
** The Winter Soldier [[spoiler:unsuccessfully]] assassinates [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] in an almost identical way to how he assassinated the Red Skull in the original Winter Soldier story.
** Nick Fury mentioning he has a wife, who he claims kicked him out of the house. [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate Nick Fury]] did indeed have a wife, Monica Chang (the second Black Widow), and she did kick him out.
** [[spoiler:The patch of STRIKE and the Insight crew is colored in green and yellow, the same colors ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} uses in the comic books.]]
** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola existing as a sentient computer intelligence]] is similar to the [[ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar computer&brains-hybrid leader of the Kree aliens]] from the comics, including being visualized as a green-colored face on computer screens.
** During ''Civil War'', Cap refused to enforce the SHRA, and a room full of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents tried to arrest him. [[http://www.itsadansworld.net/2014/01/moments-in-cool-captain-america-surfs.html This resulted in Cap beating up a room full of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, then jumping out of a window and hijacking a passing fighter jet from the outside]]. In this movie, he just beats up an elevator full. [[spoiler:And doesn't bother with the jet.]]

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* MythologyGag:
** The scene where Cap jumps out of a plane without bothering to use a parachute is a reference to a similar scene from the first issue of ''The Ultimates''.
--->'''Rollins:''' Was he wearing a parachute?\\
'''Rumlow:''' ''[smiles]'' No. No, he wasn't.
** Like in the first film, [[spoiler:Bucky makes use of Cap's shield]] as a reference to his time as Captain America in the comics.
** Batroc uses a very acrobatic fighting style in reference to his origins as an acrobat who took up crime. He's also wearing a yellow and purple top, in subdued tones compared to the goofy outfit he wears in the comics.
** Though he's largely influenced by his Ultimate counterpart, Sam Wilson is a VA counsellor who helps soldiers with PTSD as a nod to his 616 background as a social worker.
** Natasha's Tiffany & Co. necklace happens to be the [[Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}} arrow]] one.
** The freighter Batroc hijacks in the beginning is named the ''Lemurian Star''. This is a reference to Lemuria, the sunken continent that was home to the Deviants, a race of superhumans created by Creator/JackKirby.
** Captain America's new costume is the same one Steve Rogers wore in the ''Heroic Age'' arc in the comics, after he stepped down from his role as Captain America. Except, in the comics, Steve's outfit didn't have the cowl.
** [[ComicBook/DoctorStrange Dr. Stephen Strange]] is named at one point as one of the targets of [[spoiler:Project Insight]].
** We see an old S.H.I.E.L.D. emblem, which is identical to the original logo from the comics.
** Natasha uses camotech to disguise herself. The technology is a favourite of Bobbi Morse/Comicbook/{{Mockingbird}}, a fellow spy in the comics, who at one point in ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' used it to pretend to be Natasha as a prank.
** After being defeated by Falcon and left for dead, the burns and injuries [[spoiler:Rumlow]] sustains to his face cause him to more closely resemble his comic book counterpart, [[spoiler:Crossbones]].
** When Rumlow takes off his vest to fight Falcon, the straps across his chest resemble the crossbones on the costume of his comics equivalent.
** S.H.I.E.L.D. had been [[spoiler:infiltrated by Nazis in the first arc of ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'']] as well. Also in that story, Captain America took control of a system to address all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents at once, warning them of the infiltration and that the big thing going on served the bad guy's goals.
** A now obscure 1988 limited-series comic, ''Nick Fury Vs. S.H.I.E.L.D.'', had Fury stumbling onto S.H.I.E.L.D. being subverted from within, leading to him being targeted by his
MythologyGag: Has [[MythologyGag/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its own organization, revelations that the subversion existed nearly since S.H.I.E.L.D.'s founding and before Fury became director, and then concluded with most of the organization's infrastructure in ruins and the total disbanding of S.H.I.E.L.D. by Fury. The limited-series was also where the (minor) character, Alexander Pierce, debuted.
** While not humanoid in form, this incarnation's upgraded version of [[spoiler:Arnim Zola]] retains the traditional [[spoiler:monitor "body" and one-eyed "head" from his comic book counterpart with the computer monitor and the camera]].
** "When did Captain America learn how to steal a car?" This moment is possibly a shout out to the [[Film/CaptainAmerica1990 1990 film]], where Cap's constant carjacking was an unintentional RunningGag.
** The Baxter building, headquarters of the Comicbook/FantasticFour, is seen as [[spoiler:one of the targets of the Helicarriers]] in a blink-and-you'll miss it scene. Doubles as an ActorAllusion, as Chris Evans played the Human Torch in the ''[[Film/FantasticFour2005 Fantastic Four]]'' films. [[invoked]]
** The [[spoiler:"Who the hell is Bucky?"]] line is straight from the comics.
** [[spoiler:Baron von Strucker]] in TheStinger is [[spoiler:experimenting on [[Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}} twins]] with [[Comicbook/ScarletWitch superpowers]]]]. In the comics, [[spoiler:Strucker actually subjected his own twins to a treatment which gave them superpowers]].
** Scarlet Witch's debut appearance in the MCU shows her levitating shaped blocks. The ''X-Men'' debut comic shows Jean Grey doing the same.
** The phrase "Operation: Zemo" can be seen in the Cap's Smithsonian exhibit. Baron Zemo is one of Cap's deadliest longtime foes in the comics.
** Creator/EdBrubaker having a cameo as one of the scientists working on Winter Soldier works as a meta-textual instance: In the real world, [[ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier he created the Winter Soldier in his writing]]. In the film, he plays a character who creates the Winter Soldier physically.
** Cap's list of the things he missed includes the Moon Landing. Towards the beginning of the Winter Soldier comic arc, Cap regrets that he was not around in the 1960s to go into the space program because his body was made for those risks. In Comicbook/HouseOfM continuity, Cap was the first man on the moon.
** During the final fight between Captain America and Winter Soldier, the latter shoots him in the same spot from ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfCaptainAmerica''.
** Nick Fury's [[spoiler:blind eye playing an important part]] calls back to the Creator/DavidHasselhoff portrayal of Nick Fury, where [[spoiler:his eyepatch concealed a bunch of emergency tools, including ''plastic explosive'']]. Which is also amusing, since both of them involve cracking open a door!
** The Winter Soldier [[spoiler:unsuccessfully]] assassinates [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] in an almost identical way to how he assassinated the Red Skull in the original Winter Soldier story.
** Nick Fury mentioning he has a wife, who he claims kicked him out of the house. [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate Nick Fury]] did indeed have a wife, Monica Chang (the second Black Widow), and she did kick him out.
** [[spoiler:The patch of STRIKE and the Insight crew is colored in green and yellow, the same colors ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} uses in the comic books.]]
** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola existing as a sentient computer intelligence]] is similar to the [[ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar computer&brains-hybrid leader of the Kree aliens]] from the comics, including being visualized as a green-colored face on computer screens.
** During ''Civil War'', Cap refused to enforce the SHRA, and a room full of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents tried to arrest him. [[http://www.itsadansworld.net/2014/01/moments-in-cool-captain-america-surfs.html This resulted in Cap beating up a room full of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, then jumping out of a window and hijacking a passing fighter jet from the outside]]. In this movie, he just beats up an elevator full. [[spoiler:And doesn't bother with the jet.]]
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10th Feb '17 2:55:23 AM StFan
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--> '''Nick''': You know...there was a time I would've taken a bullet for you.
--> [[spoiler:'''Pierce''']]: [[{{Irony}} You already did.]] [[PragmaticVillainy You will again when it's useful.]]
--> ''([[spoiler:Natasha electrocutes herself, then Nick shoots Pierce twice.]])''

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--> '''Nick''': -->'''Nick:''' You know...know... there was a time I would've taken a bullet for you.
--> [[spoiler:'''Pierce''']]:
you.\\
[[spoiler:'''Pierce:''']]
[[{{Irony}} You already did.]] [[PragmaticVillainy You will again when it's useful.]]
--> ''([[spoiler:Natasha
]]\\
''[[[spoiler:Natasha
electrocutes herself, then Nick shoots Pierce twice.]])''twice]]]''
9th Feb '17 11:52:08 AM morenohijazo
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* FinalExchange: While the returnee of the exchange gets shot.
--> '''Nick''': You know...there was a time I would've taken a bullet for you.
--> [[spoiler:'''Pierce''']]: [[{{Irony}} You already did.]] [[PragmaticVillainy You will again when it's useful.]]
--> ''([[spoiler:Natasha electrocutes herself, then Nick shoots Pierce twice.]])''
4th Feb '17 8:16:56 PM trulymadmoves
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* ChekhovsSkill: More than once in the film, Captain America demonstrates his ability to survive dropping from a great height. When the Winter Soldier is unmasked, Cap therefore immediately understands how the character survived his DisneyVillainDeath--they have the same powers.
27th Jan '17 3:25:25 AM HeraldAlberich
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Cleveland doubles for UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC. You see a lot of Cleveland landmarks during the police chase that Fury is lured into early in the movie (even a directional sign for US 6 appears). Furthermore, there are a lot of tall skyscrapers seen during the police chase and in other parts of the movie. You will never find such buildings in real Washington, D.C. because the Height of Buildings Act of 1910 prevents any building in D.C. from being more than 20 feet taller than the width of the street that said building sits on. The buildings seen in the chases are much too tall for this city to actually be Washington, D.C.
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