History Film / CaptainAmericatheWinterSoldier

17th May '17 2:19:35 AM StFan
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* MagicFloppyDisk: [[spoiler:Zola's brain]] was uploaded to "two hundred thousand feet of databanks", with the ability to read and rewrite itself. You could feasibly pull this off in the 21st century with digital tape, but in the early Seventies when the mainframe was built it wouldn't have enough space to hold the estimated 2.5 petabytes for a [[spoiler:human brain]].

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* MagicFloppyDisk: [[spoiler:Zola's brain]] was uploaded to "two hundred thousand feet of databanks", with the ability to read and rewrite itself. You could feasibly pull this off in the 21st 21[-[[superscript:st]]-] century with digital tape, but in the early Seventies when the mainframe was built it wouldn't have enough space to hold the estimated 2.5 petabytes for a [[spoiler:human brain]].



** When the last helicarrier crashes on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s headquarters it sets Sam Wilson on a run for his life, but he gets to tell Black Widow to pick him up on the 41st floor of the building with a helicopter, Black Widow and Nick Fury hurry the copter over to the place, Wilson breaks through the window into the void and Fury maneuvres so that the copter painfully but safely catches Wilson's fall some ten stories below. Wilson is alive but unimpresed:
--->'''Wilson:''' 41st floor! 41st!
--->'''Fury:''' It's not like they put the floor numbers on the outside of the building!

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** When the last helicarrier crashes on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s headquarters it sets Sam Wilson on a run for his life, but he gets to tell Black Widow to pick him up on the 41st 41[-[[superscript:st]]-] floor of the building with a helicopter, Black Widow and Nick Fury hurry the copter over to the place, Wilson breaks through the window into the void and Fury maneuvres maneuvers so that the copter painfully but safely catches Wilson's fall some ten stories below. Wilson is alive but unimpresed:
--->'''Wilson:''' 41st
unimpressed:
--->'''Sam Wilson:''' 41[-[[superscript:st]]-]
floor! 41st!
--->'''Fury:'''
41[-[[superscript:st]]-]!\\
'''Nick Fury:'''
It's not like they put the floor numbers on the outside of the building!



* TheRemnant: Played with. The [[spoiler:new HYDRA, recreated by Arnim Zola and other surviving HYDRA agents]] that emigrated to the US after the end of WWII, is even stronger than it used to be in the 40's.

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* TheRemnant: Played with. The [[spoiler:new HYDRA, recreated by Arnim Zola and other surviving HYDRA agents]] that emigrated to the US after the end of WWII, is even stronger than it used to be in the 40's.'40s.



* SinisterSurveillance: The bad guys' plan takes full advantage of the miracles of the 21st century, where EverythingIsOnline.

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* SinisterSurveillance: The bad guys' plan takes full advantage of the miracles of the 21st 21[-[[superscript:st]]-] century, where EverythingIsOnline.



** The most egregious example is Falcon jumping through a window on the 41st floor of the Triskelion. Windows in high rise buildings are usually purpose-built to keep people from doing just that -- though, when he does so, the entire floor/walls/ceiling ''are'' a second-or-less away from complete collapse, [[spoiler:due to an entire Helicarrier crashing into them.]]

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** The most egregious example is Falcon jumping through a window on the 41st 41[-[[superscript:st]]-] floor of the Triskelion. Windows in high rise buildings are usually purpose-built to keep people from doing just that -- though, when he does so, the entire floor/walls/ceiling ''are'' a second-or-less away from complete collapse, [[spoiler:due to an entire Helicarrier crashing into them.]]



* WrestlerInAllOfUs: Cap uses a brutal German suplex on the Winter Soldier during their 2nd encounter. He also puts him in a sleeper, or rear naked choke, if you prefer MixedMartialArts terms (complete with the proper positioning and joint "hooks" for applying the hold as one would in MMA, judo or jiu-jitsu) to knock him out for a few seconds.

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* WrestlerInAllOfUs: Cap uses a brutal German suplex on the Winter Soldier during their 2nd second encounter. He also puts him in a sleeper, or rear naked choke, if you prefer MixedMartialArts terms (complete with the proper positioning and joint "hooks" for applying the hold as one would in MMA, judo or jiu-jitsu) to knock him out for a few seconds.
16th May '17 10:22:29 PM ritzoreo
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* ImprobableAge: The Black Widow is implied to have started working as an agent for the KGB, however the film shows her to be born in 1984, which would make her at most 7 years old when the KGB broke up.
16th May '17 4:38:14 PM ritzoreo
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** When the last helicarrier crashes on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s headquarters it sets Sam Wilson on a run for his life, but he gets to tell Black Widow to pick him up on the 41st floor of the building with a helicopter, Black Widow and Nick Fury hurry the copter over to the place, Wilson breaks through the window into the void and Fury maneuvres so that the copter painfully but safely catches Wilson's fall some ten stories below. Wilson is alive but unimpresed:
--->'''Wilson:''' 41st floor! 41st!
--->'''Fury:''' It's not like they put the floor numbers on the outside of the building!
13th May '17 4:55:32 PM mlsmithca
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* MythologyGag: Has [[MythologyGag/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its own page]].

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* MythologyGag: Has [[MythologyGag/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its MythologyGag:
** The scene where Cap jumps out of a plane without bothering to use a parachute is a reference to a similar scene from the first issue of ''The Ultimates''.
--->'''Rollins:''' Was he wearing a parachute?\\
'''Rumlow:''' ''[smiles]'' No. No, he wasn't.
** Like in the first film, [[spoiler:Bucky makes use of Cap's shield]] as a reference to his time as Captain America in the comics.
** Batroc uses a very acrobatic fighting style in reference to his origins as an acrobat who took up crime. He's also wearing a yellow and purple top, in subdued tones compared to the goofy outfit he wears in the comics.
** Though he's largely influenced by his Ultimate counterpart, Sam Wilson is a VA counsellor who helps soldiers with PTSD as a nod to his 616 background as a social worker.
** Natasha's Tiffany & Co. necklace happens to be the [[Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}} arrow]] one.
** The freighter Batroc hijacks in the beginning is named the ''Lemurian Star''. This is a reference to Lemuria, the sunken continent that was home to the Deviants, a race of superhumans created by Creator/JackKirby.
** Captain America's new costume is the same one Steve Rogers wore in the ''Heroic Age'' arc in the comics, after he stepped down from his role as Captain America. Except, in the comics, Steve's outfit didn't have the cowl.
** [[ComicBook/DoctorStrange Dr. Stephen Strange]] is named at one point as one of the targets of [[spoiler:Project Insight]].
** We see an old S.H.I.E.L.D. emblem, which is identical to the original logo from the comics.
** Natasha uses camotech to disguise herself. The technology is a favourite of Bobbi Morse/Comicbook/{{Mockingbird}}, a fellow spy in the comics, who at one point in ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' used it to pretend to be Natasha as a prank.
** After being defeated by Falcon and left for dead, the burns and injuries [[spoiler:Rumlow]] sustains to his face cause him to more closely resemble his comic book counterpart, [[spoiler:Crossbones]].
** When Rumlow takes off his vest to fight Falcon, the straps across his chest resemble the crossbones on the costume of his comics equivalent.
** S.H.I.E.L.D. had been [[spoiler:infiltrated by Nazis in the first arc of ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'']] as well. Also in that story, Captain America took control of a system to address all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents at once, warning them of the infiltration and that the big thing going on served the bad guy's goals.
** A now obscure 1988 limited-series comic, ''Nick Fury Vs. S.H.I.E.L.D.'', had Fury stumbling onto S.H.I.E.L.D. being subverted from within, leading to him being targeted by his
own page]].organization, revelations that the subversion existed nearly since S.H.I.E.L.D.'s founding and before Fury became director, and then concluded with most of the organization's infrastructure in ruins and the total disbanding of S.H.I.E.L.D. by Fury. The limited-series was also where the (minor) character, Alexander Pierce, debuted.
** While not humanoid in form, this incarnation's upgraded version of [[spoiler:Arnim Zola]] retains the traditional [[spoiler:monitor "body" and one-eyed "head" from his comic book counterpart with the computer monitor and the camera]].
** "When did Captain America learn how to steal a car?" This moment is possibly a shout out to the [[Film/CaptainAmerica1990 1990 film]], where Cap's constant carjacking was an unintentional RunningGag.
** The Baxter building, headquarters of the Comicbook/FantasticFour, is seen as [[spoiler:one of the targets of the Helicarriers]] in a blink-and-you'll miss it scene. Doubles as an ActorAllusion, as Chris Evans played the Human Torch in the ''[[Film/FantasticFour2005 Fantastic Four]]'' films. [[invoked]]
** The [[spoiler:"Who the hell is Bucky?"]] line is straight from the comics.
** [[spoiler:Baron von Strucker]] in TheStinger is [[spoiler:experimenting on [[Comicbook/{{Quicksilver}} twins]] with [[Comicbook/ScarletWitch superpowers]]]]. In the comics, [[spoiler:Strucker actually subjected his own twins to a treatment which gave them superpowers]].
** Scarlet Witch's debut appearance in the MCU shows her levitating shaped blocks. The ''X-Men'' debut comic shows Jean Grey doing the same.
** The phrase "Operation: Zemo" can be seen in the Cap's Smithsonian exhibit. Baron Zemo is one of Cap's deadliest longtime foes in the comics.
** Creator/EdBrubaker having a cameo as one of the scientists working on Winter Soldier works as a meta-textual instance: In the real world, [[ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier he created the Winter Soldier in his writing]]. In the film, he plays a character who creates the Winter Soldier physically.
** Cap's list of the things he missed includes the Moon Landing. Towards the beginning of the Winter Soldier comic arc, Cap regrets that he was not around in the 1960s to go into the space program because his body was made for those risks. In Comicbook/HouseOfM continuity, Cap was the first man on the moon.
** During the final fight between Captain America and the Winter Soldier, the latter shoots him in the same spot from ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfCaptainAmerica''.
** Nick Fury's [[spoiler:blind eye playing an important part]] calls back to the Creator/DavidHasselhoff portrayal of Nick Fury, where [[spoiler:his eyepatch concealed a bunch of emergency tools, including ''plastic explosive'']]. Which is also amusing, since both of them involve cracking open a door!
** The Winter Soldier [[spoiler:unsuccessfully]] assassinates [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] in an almost identical way to how he assassinated the Red Skull in the original Winter Soldier story.
** Nick Fury mentioning he has a wife, who he claims kicked him out of the house. [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate Nick Fury]] did indeed have a wife, Monica Chang (the second Black Widow), and she did kick him out.
** [[spoiler:The patch of STRIKE and the Insight crew is colored in green and yellow, the same colors ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} uses in the comic books.]]
** [[spoiler:Arnim Zola existing as a sentient computer intelligence]] is similar to the [[ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar computer&brains-hybrid leader of the Kree aliens]] from the comics, including being visualized as a green-colored face on computer screens.
** During ''Civil War'', Cap refused to enforce the SHRA, and a room full of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents tried to arrest him. [[http://www.itsadansworld.net/2014/01/moments-in-cool-captain-america-surfs.html This resulted in Cap beating up a room full of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, then jumping out of a window and hijacking a passing fighter jet from the outside]]. In this movie, he just beats up an elevator full. [[spoiler:And doesn't bother with the jet.]]
13th May '17 4:26:30 PM mlsmithca
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* RealityEnsues: Has [[RealityEnsues/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its own page]].

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* RealityEnsues: Has [[RealityEnsues/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its RealityEnsues:
** Falcon has been redesigned to sport a pair of goggles, which he would need to protect his eyes while flying. His wings are also larger than they are in the comics, making them closer to the size needed to hold a human aloft, and the backpack sports a small afterburner.
** And as shown in ''Film/AntMan'', the goggles have a zoom function, so he can actually see stuff while a thousand feet in the air.
** When Cap gives his rousing speech about [[spoiler:S.H.I.E.L.D. being taken over by Hydra, many of the rank and file are quick to try and back him up. Sadly, they are unfortunately unable to provide much in the way of backup, as they are mostly composed of desk agents, paper-pushers, and regular security guys up against the Insight and STRIKE team agents, who have way more experience and training in violent situations... along with an enhanced assassin with a cybernetic arm. As a consequence, they get slaughtered in droves.]]
** And similar to ''The Avengers'' example, the film shows that not even being given near-superhuman abilities through the magic of science is enough to let Captain America bounce back from being shot several times and entering into a curbstomp battle with the Winter Soldier, without medical intervention and a stay in the hospital afterwards.
** Similar to the PTSD Tony Stark goes through in ''Film/IronMan3'' (below), Steve is suffering from depression after having been locked in the ice for 70 years.
** Despite being in great shape and still very good with his jetpack, Falcon hasn't seen action in awhile and is easily beaten by an active special forces agent in a straight up fight once he loses his gear.
** The Winter Soldier himself tends to walk with a very distinct, unhurried swagger. Then you remember that [[ArtificialLimbs his left arm is robotic]] and therefore [[FridgeBrilliance his left side is far heavier than his right]].
** As badass as Natasha is, when she is shot and captured, she was slowly bleeding out from her wound and would have died if not for Maria Hill helping them escape and find proper medical treatment.
** Likewise, while Natasha is a skilled spy and assassin and very impressive in her
own page]].right, she's very easily outclassed by the Winter Soldier, who like Cap, is a SuperSoldier. He manages to come back from just about everything she throws at him, and nearly kills her before Cap intervenes.
** The same goes for every other non-superhuman character who has the misfortune of getting into a fight with the Winter Soldier. There's a reason he's considered TheDreaded in-universe.
6th May '17 3:09:53 PM AnotherGamer
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* TheForeignSubtitle: A strange example occurred with some of the European releases, such as Finland, Sweden and Germany, where the movie was marketed as "Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger", but it wasn't translated in any way.

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* TheForeignSubtitle: A strange example occurred with some of the European releases, such as Finland, as Sweden and Germany, where the movie was marketed as "Captain America: The Return of the First Avenger", but it wasn't translated in any way.
18th Apr '17 6:46:04 AM ashlay
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-->-- '''Captain Steven Grant "Steve" Rogers, US Army / ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'''

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-->-- '''Captain Steven Grant "Steve" Rogers, US Army / ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'''
'''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'''
11th Apr '17 7:02:27 AM NightShade96
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* ContinuityNod:
** Steve ''still'' has trouble controlling his momentum when chasing someone. This time, he's leaving dents in the walls with his shield.
** When Natasha makes a reference to ''Film/WarGames'', Steve quickly assures her that he understands the reference, referencing his "I understood that reference" joke from ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.
** In a rare preemptive example, an episode of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' name-dropped the Triskelion well ahead of the movie's release. In addition, "Level Eight" access being a minor plot point was introduced in the first season.
** Agent Sitwell is seen on the ''Lemurian Star''. Episode 16 of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' has him be called away to board the ship part-way through the episode.
** The Falcon's flight gear sports a [[Film/IronMan Stark Industries]] logo.
** Peggy Carter and Howard Stark are shown to have been the founders of S.H.I.E.L.D., as established in the ''Film/AgentCarter'' [[Film/MarvelOneShots one-shot]].
** Pierce brings up Fury's association with Iron Man (''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/IronMan2'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'') while asking if Fury could get the hero to appear at his niece's birthday party.
** This HYDRA faction targets [[Film/IronMan3 President Matthew Ellis]], among many others, as part of Project INSIGHT. He's also given a quote in Cap's Smithsonian exhibit.
** It's mentioned that Tony Stark oversaw the creation of the repulsor engines on the new Helicarriers after getting a "close look" at the old version -- referring to the incident where he got ''stuck'' in one of the turbines during Loki's attack on the Helicarrier during ''The Avengers''.
** "[[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk Banner]]'s condition" is brought up once.
** [[spoiler:The newly rebuilt Stark Tower, now dubbed "Avengers Tower", is seen as one of the targets of Project Insight]].
** The Stinger reveals [[spoiler:that Baron von Strucker has Loki's scepter from ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' in his possession.]]
** The plasma cutter [[spoiler:that Fury uses to escape from his ruined car into the sewer/metro]] has the same blue beam as the one used to access the plane buried in the ice in the previous movie. The episode of ''Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'' that aired directly after the film's release revealed that they were invented by Fitz.
** Pierce mentions [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Natasha's mission in Budapest]] when pointing out that she's about to release all of her secrets too.

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* ContinuityNod:
** Steve ''still'' has trouble controlling his momentum when chasing someone. This time, he's leaving dents in the walls with his shield.
** When Natasha makes a reference to ''Film/WarGames'', Steve quickly assures her that he understands the reference, referencing his "I understood that reference" joke from ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.
** In a rare preemptive example, an episode of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' name-dropped the Triskelion well ahead of the movie's release. In addition, "Level Eight" access being a minor plot point was introduced in the first season.
** Agent Sitwell is seen on the ''Lemurian Star''. Episode 16 of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' has him be called away to board the ship part-way through the episode.
** The Falcon's flight gear sports a [[Film/IronMan Stark Industries]] logo.
** Peggy Carter and Howard Stark are shown to have been the founders of S.H.I.E.L.D., as established in the ''Film/AgentCarter'' [[Film/MarvelOneShots one-shot]].
** Pierce brings up Fury's association with Iron Man (''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/IronMan2'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'') while asking if Fury could get the hero to appear at his niece's birthday party.
** This HYDRA faction targets [[Film/IronMan3 President Matthew Ellis]], among many others, as part of Project INSIGHT. He's also given a quote in Cap's Smithsonian exhibit.
** It's mentioned that Tony Stark oversaw the creation of the repulsor engines on the new Helicarriers after getting a "close look" at the old version -- referring to the incident where he got ''stuck'' in one of the turbines during Loki's attack on the Helicarrier during ''The Avengers''.
** "[[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk Banner]]'s condition" is brought up once.
** [[spoiler:The newly rebuilt Stark Tower, now dubbed "Avengers Tower", is seen as one of the targets of Project Insight]].
** The Stinger reveals [[spoiler:that Baron von Strucker has Loki's scepter from ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' in his possession.]]
** The plasma cutter [[spoiler:that Fury uses to escape from his ruined car into the sewer/metro]] has the same blue beam as the one used to access the plane buried in the ice in the previous movie. The episode of ''Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'' that aired directly after the film's release revealed that they were invented by Fitz.
** Pierce mentions [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Natasha's mission in Budapest]] when pointing out that she's about to release all of her secrets too.
ContinuityNod: Has [[ContinuityNod/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier its own page]].
19th Mar '17 8:34:12 PM RayAP9
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* NonchalantDodge: The Winter Soldier calmly sidesteps around [[spoiler:Nick Fury's]] flaming, careening vehicle, after the former detonated a [[SmartGun smart mine]] underneath it.
18th Mar '17 10:11:10 AM nighttrainfm
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** The makers of ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpk1TE2_Gcc ask]][[note]]Start at 5:08[[/note]] [[WordOfGod the Russo Brothers]], "In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is it just a coincidence that Mace Windu looks like Nick Fury, or is it like in ''Film/LastActionHero'' where Sylvester Stallone plays all the Arnold Schwarzenegger parts?"[[note]]Stallone appears on a ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' poster in ''Last Action Hero''[[/note]] Anthony Russo [[ShrugOfGod simply responds]], "I'm getting a headache."

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** The makers of ''WebVideo/HonestTrailers'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpk1TE2_Gcc ask]][[note]]Start at 5:08[[/note]] [[WordOfGod the Russo Brothers]], "In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is it just a coincidence that Mace Windu looks like Nick Fury, or is it like in ''Film/LastActionHero'' where Sylvester Stallone plays all the Arnold Schwarzenegger parts?"[[note]]Stallone appears on a ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' poster in ''Last Action Hero''[[/note]] Anthony Russo [[ShrugOfGod simply responds]], "I'm getting a headache."You're hurting my brain."
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