History Film / CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica

4th Oct '16 5:01:14 PM WarioBarker
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-->-- '''Creator/GeorgeBernardShaw''', presented before the film starts.

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-->-- '''Creator/GeorgeBernardShaw''', -->--'''Creator/GeorgeBernardShaw''', presented before the film starts.






* AmbiguousEnding. The film ends with slavery still prevalent in America, but [[spoiler: the One Drop scandal, which led to the Fauntroy family patriarch eating his gun, seems to have people questioning the authenticity of the whole program, not to mention the fact that slavery is taking a toll on the CSA economy]].

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* AmbiguousEnding. AmbiguousEnding: The film ends with slavery still prevalent in America, but [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the One Drop scandal, which led to the Fauntroy family patriarch eating his gun, seems to have people questioning the authenticity of the whole program, not to mention the fact that slavery is taking a toll on the CSA economy]].



* LaserGuidedKarma: The Confederacy won The Civil War because Britain and France intervened on their behalf. Both of those nations would go on to become bitter rivals with The CSA to the point of declaring a world embargo against them. In other words, Britain and France created their worst enemy.

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* LaserGuidedKarma: The Confederacy won The the Civil War because Britain and France intervened on their behalf. Both of those nations would go on to become bitter rivals with The CSA to the point of declaring a world embargo against them. In other words, Britain and France created their worst enemy.



* MayContainEvil: Contrari, a drug that supposedly "cures" drapetomania[[note]](a.k.a. the desire to run away)[[/note]]. In reality, it just dopes the slaves enough to be compliant.

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* MayContainEvil: Contrari, a drug that supposedly "cures" drapetomania[[note]](a.k.a. the drapetomania [[note]](aka "the desire to run away)[[/note]].away")[[/note]]. In reality, it just dopes the slaves enough to be compliant.



* NobleDemon: After the Confederacy wins The Civil War, Robert E. Lee called for the Emancipation of the slaves, and almost got it through congress. [[spoiler: John Ambrose Fontroy prevented Lee's efforts from coming to fruition]].

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* NobleDemon: After the Confederacy wins The the Civil War, Robert E. Lee called for the Emancipation of the slaves, slaves and almost got it through congress. [[spoiler: John Congress. [[spoiler:John Ambrose Fontroy Fauntroy prevented Lee's efforts from coming to fruition]].fruition.]]



* PetTheDog: Occasionally The Confederacy (or significant members of it's leadership) do something good (or at least less horrible).
** When the Civil War is over, Robert E. Lee calls for Emancipation of the slaves. [[CaptainObvious it fails]].

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* PetTheDog: Occasionally The Occasionally, the Confederacy (or significant members of it's its leadership) do something good (or at least less horrible).
** When the Civil War is over, Robert E. Lee calls for Emancipation of the slaves. [[CaptainObvious it fails]].It fails.]]



-->John Ambrose Fontroy II: "The Nation would be better off without those blood-sucking Jews."
-->Jefferson Davis: *grabbed Fontroy by the collar* "Don't you ever forget, sir, that it was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin a blood-sucking Jew]] who saved this country!"
** As President of The Confederacy, John F. Kennedy tried to Emancipate the slaves. [[HopeSpot He was killed, and his momentum died with him]].

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-->John -->'''John Ambrose Fontroy II: "The Fauntroy II:''' The Nation would be better off without those blood-sucking Jews."
-->Jefferson Davis: *grabbed Fontroy
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'''Jefferson Davis:''' (''grabs Fauntroy
by the collar* "Don't collar'') Don't you ever forget, sir, that it was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin a blood-sucking Jew]] who saved this country!"
country!
** As President of The the Confederacy, John F. Kennedy tried to Emancipate the slaves. [[HopeSpot He was killed, and his momentum died with him]]. him.]]



* PyrrhicVillainy: The CSA has been able to continue chattel slavery into the 21th century, stifling any opposition. However, America has been turned into a giant pariah state, with every major country (except South Africa) enacting sanctions against. Its oppressive "morality" laws have driven great artists into Canada, while the CSA can only produce vapid government propaganda. And at the end of the film, it is stated that the continued maintenance of slavery is damaging the country's economy.
* RapePillageAndBurn: The Confederates did this to Northern Cities such as Boston and New York. Witnessing this lead [[NobleDemon Robert E. Lee]] to the conclusion that WarIsHell.

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* PyrrhicVillainy: The CSA has been able to continue chattel slavery into the 21th century, 21st Century, stifling any opposition. However, America has been turned into a giant pariah state, with every major country (except South Africa) enacting sanctions against.against it. Its oppressive "morality" laws have driven great artists into Canada, while the CSA can only produce vapid government propaganda. And at the end of the film, it is it's stated that the continued maintenance of slavery is damaging the country's economy.
* RapePillageAndBurn: The Confederates did this to Northern Cities cities such as Boston and New York. Witnessing this lead led [[NobleDemon Robert E. Lee]] to the conclusion that WarIsHell.



** Subverted with an abolitionist movement in the 1950s. It emerges from Canada and creates its own version of the "Weather Underground". It ends with the construction of a wall dividing the CSA and Canada.
** Averted with actual communists, which is ironic considering how the USSR used America's unequal treatment of blacks and women for anti-American propaganda purposes in the pre- and post-[=WW2=] eras.

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** Subverted with an abolitionist movement in the 1950s. It 1950s: it emerges from Canada and creates its own version of the "Weather Underground". It Underground", and ends with the construction of a wall dividing the CSA and Canada.
** Averted with actual communists, Communists, which is ironic considering how the USSR used America's unequal treatment of blacks and women for anti-American propaganda purposes in the pre- and post-[=WW2=] post-World War II eras.



** Regardless of how it's presented, the movie's real purpose is to highlight a serious and legitimate real-world issue--namely, racism, both de facto and institutionalized. For example, virtually all of the "fake" advertisements used in the commercial breaks are for real products. Granted, most of the products were discontinued or renamed to remove racist imagery within the last hundred years, but it mentions that the restaurant chain Sambo's was in operation as late as the 1980s and Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima are still in use as advertising icons, albeit cleaned up as major business executives in the food industry.

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** Regardless of how it's presented, the movie's real purpose is to highlight a serious and legitimate real-world issue--namely, issue - namely, racism, both de facto and institutionalized. For example, virtually all of the "fake" advertisements used in the commercial breaks are for real products. Granted, most of the products these were discontinued or renamed to remove racist imagery within the last hundred years, but it mentions that the restaurant chain Sambo's was in operation as late as the 1980s and Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima are still in use as advertising icons, albeit cleaned up as major business executives in the food industry.



** The CSA's obsession with slavery can seem like a PlanetOfHats situation, but by the 1840s the "confederacy" really was getting consumed by slavery as a lynchpin and focus of society; just as with the above examples, it's more an extrapolation than anything else. (The real question is whether or not it would have gone quite that far nationally since even in the 1840s some southerners were beginning to express dismay at the direction their society was taking.)
** Aside from America's imperial interests in the late 19th century, there were a lot of Southerners that wanted to annex Latin American countries and turn them into slave states. One of them, William Walker, conquered Nicaragua in 1856 and ruled, for about a year. He continued to harass the region until he was executed in Honduras.

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** The CSA's obsession with slavery can seem like a PlanetOfHats situation, but by the 1840s the "confederacy" "Confederacy" really was getting consumed by slavery as a lynchpin and focus of society; just as with the above examples, it's more an extrapolation than anything else. (The real question is whether or not it would have would've gone quite that far nationally since even in the 1840s some southerners Southerners were beginning to express dismay at the direction their society was taking.)
** Aside from America's imperial interests in the late 19th century, Century, there were a lot of Southerners that wanted to annex Latin American countries and turn them into slave states. One of them, William Walker, conquered Nicaragua in 1856 and ruled, ruled for about a year. He continued to harass the region until he was executed in Honduras.



** The Confederacy only won because of assistance from Britain and France, which it only had because of Judah P. Benjamin's negotiations. Within his lifetime, The Confederacy passed The Christian Reform Act which made all non-christian religions illegal, and resulted in the deportation of most of America's Jews (Jews like him).
** The 129th Fighting Bucks, a regiment of slaves, fought for The Confederacy against Japan in the Pacific Theater. Despite these slaves fighting valiantly, [[ILied the CSA refused to deliver on promises of freedom]].
* TheUnreveal: We never find out what “negative” means in the context of a ‘Passing’ DNA test. As a consequence [[spoiler:we never find out if the test conducted on the corpse of Fauntroy Ⅴ confirms he had a black ancestor or not.]]

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** The Confederacy only won because of assistance from Britain and France, which it only had because of Judah P. Benjamin's negotiations. Within his lifetime, The the Confederacy passed The Christian Reform Act which made all non-christian non-Christian religions illegal, and resulted in the deportation of most of America's Jews (Jews like him).
** The 129th Fighting Bucks, a regiment of slaves, fought for The the Confederacy against Japan in the Pacific Theater. Despite these slaves fighting valiantly, [[ILied the CSA refused to deliver on promises of freedom]].
* TheUnreveal: We never find out what “negative” "negative" means in the context of a ‘Passing’ "Passing" DNA test. As a consequence consequence, [[spoiler:we never find out if the test conducted on the corpse of Fauntroy V confirms he had a black ancestor or not.]]not]].



** The couple dozen anti-slavery, anti-secession counties in northwestern Virginia that broke away from that state to remain in the Union (eventually becoming West Virginia). Yet here, the Union's conquered. Presumably those legislators who supported the breakaway that could be caught were arrested, tried, and punished, and the two Virginias were reunited (not that different from Reconstruction as it actually happened).

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** The couple dozen anti-slavery, anti-secession counties in northwestern Virginia that broke away from that state to remain in the Union (eventually becoming West Virginia). Yet here, the Union's conquered. Presumably Presumably, those legislators who supported the breakaway that could be caught were arrested, tried, and punished, and the two Virginias were reunited (not that different from Reconstruction as it actually happened).
30th Sep '16 7:54:24 AM redandready45
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* AmbiguousSituation. The film ends with slavery still prevalent in America, but [[spoiler: the One Drop scandal, which led to the Fauntroy family patriarch eating his gun, seems to have people questioning the authenticity of the whole program]].

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* AmbiguousSituation. AmbiguousEnding. The film ends with slavery still prevalent in America, but [[spoiler: the One Drop scandal, which led to the Fauntroy family patriarch eating his gun, seems to have people questioning the authenticity of the whole program]].program, not to mention the fact that slavery is taking a toll on the CSA economy]].



* LesCollaborateurs: Jefferson Davis' slave, Popsy, gave him the idea of encouraging Northerners to won slaves. The slave trade was brought back during the Great Depression with the help of African heads of state. Patricia Johnson gets very...[[TranquilFury quiet]] when talking about the latter.

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* LesCollaborateurs: Jefferson Davis' slave, Popsy, gave him the idea of encouraging Northerners to won own slaves. The slave trade was brought back during the Great Depression with the help of African heads of state. Patricia Johnson gets very...[[TranquilFury quiet]] when talking about the latter.
18th Sep '16 9:17:28 PM Kalmbach
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* AsTheGoodBookSays: Quotes from ''Literature/TheBible'' are used by the Confederates to support their methods of slavery and racism.

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* AsTheGoodBookSays: Quotes from ''Literature/TheBible'' are used by the Confederates to support their methods of slavery and racism. Depressingly true during the actual Antebellum period.
17th Sep '16 11:40:27 AM redandready45
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* AmbiguousSituation. The film ends with slavery still prevalent in America, but [[spoiler: the One Drop scandal, which led to the Fauntroy family patriarch eating his gun, seems to have people questioning the authenticity of the whole program]].


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* LesCollaborateurs: Jefferson Davis' slave, Popsy, gave him the idea of encouraging Northerners to won slaves. The slave trade was brought back during the Great Depression with the help of African heads of state. Patricia Johnson gets very...[[TranquilFury quiet]] when talking about the latter.
14th Aug '16 10:16:40 AM Jhonny
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* BurgerFool: Coon Chicken Inn, the CSA's version of KFC (and, like other products in the film, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_Chicken_Inn a actual place]]).

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* BurgerFool: Coon Chicken Inn, the CSA's version of KFC (and, like other products in the film, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_Chicken_Inn a an actual place]]).
14th Aug '16 3:06:10 AM LtFedora
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* BurgerFool: Coon Chicken Inn, the CSA's version of KFC (and, like other products in the film, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_Chicken_Inn a actual place]]).
30th Apr '16 10:42:51 AM zarpaulus
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** Judah P. Benjamin really did attempt to bring Britain into the war on the Confederacy's side. However, he overestimated the value of the South's one bargaining chip, their cotton industry, and Britain decided they were better off remaining on good terms with the Union.
30th Apr '16 9:56:19 AM Timjames98
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee Robert E. Lee]] called for emancipation of the slaves after The Civil War and almost got it through Congress.
** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest Nathan Bedford Forrest]] was a [[LeaveNoSurvivors War]] [[SinkTheLifeBoats Criminal]] who killed women and children.
** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin Judah P. Benjamin]] won The Civil War for The Confederacy by successfully convincing Britain and France to support The Confederacy.


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** [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/ElvisPresley Elvis Presley]] became a star in Canada by adopting techniques used by black musicians.


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* LaserGuidedKarma: The Confederacy won The Civil War because Britain and France intervened on their behalf. Both of those nations would go on to become bitter rivals with The CSA to the point of declaring a world embargo against them. In other words, Britain and France created their worst enemy.
29th Apr '16 10:33:38 PM Timjames98
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** Justified near the end, when Sherman Foyle outright admits that slavery has always been economically detrimental and that The CSA only practices it for ideological purposes.
29th Apr '16 9:48:36 PM Timjames98
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