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21st May '17 7:14:45 PM Njein
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''[Marty scoffs and walks away in anger.]''\\

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21st May '17 7:14:28 PM Njein
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''[Marty scoffs and walks away in anger.]''

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21st May '17 7:14:11 PM Njein
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** Marty also gives one to Seth after finding out that J.T. Marlin is actually a boiler room:
-->'''Marty''': Hey. I spoke to Howard Goldberg over at Prudential. You lied again, you unbelievable [[PrecisionFStrike piece of shit]]. You lied to all of us. He told me about JT Marlin - it's a chop shop, Seth. You've been selling their shit all this time. How many people have you fucked over? Tell me, how many? All that bullshit about them wanting you to know how the business works. The great training program, remember? All the profits you made for your customers? Did you do anything for them, Seth? Tell me, did you make them any money at all? ''[Seth doesn't respond and looks down in shame]'' Oh god. I'm done with you, Seth. This is it. I've had it. I don't want to see you again. I don't want you to come to the house. I don't want you to call. This is worse than the casino, Seth. You've been stealing. Look at me. ''[Seth looks at him.]'' You're destroying people's lives.
''[Marty scoffs and walks away in anger.]''
7th Mar '17 5:56:44 PM CosmicFerret
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''Boiler Room'' is a 2000 American drama film with elements of {{film noir}}, written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, Creator/VinDiesel, Nia Long, Creator/BenAffleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin and Jamie Kennedy.

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''Boiler Room'' is a 2000 American drama film with elements of {{film noir}}, written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, Creator/GiovanniRibisi, Creator/VinDiesel, Nia Long, Creator/BenAffleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin and Jamie Kennedy.
3rd Nov '16 10:58:05 AM Njein
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* NewEraSpeech: Jim Young's EstablishingCharacterMoment is an introductory rant to the new trainees.


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* WhiteCollarCrime: J.T. Marlin is actually a "chop shop" boiler room - it's using its brokers to artificially inflate the price of stocks of expired or fake companies (as well as speculative penny stocks) through bogus and misleading statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. Once the operators of the scheme "dump" (aka sell) their overvalued shares, the price falls and the investors lose their money.
2nd Nov '16 7:58:15 PM Njein
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: [[spoiler: At the end of the film, Seth browbeats Chris into signing a sell order for Harry Reynard so Reynard can make his money back. One BIG problem: all stock transactions have an SEC-mandated "settling" period of several days before the transaction becomes official. Since Seth knows the FBI is arriving within the hour and the FBI's first act upon arriving will be to freeze all transactions, the sell order would never go through in real life. It would be a completely meaningless gesture.]]

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: [[spoiler: At the end of the film, Seth browbeats Chris into signing a sell order for Harry Reynard so Reynard can make his money back. One BIG problem: all stock transactions have an SEC-mandated "settling" period of several three days before the transaction becomes official. Since Seth knows the FBI is arriving within the hour and the FBI's first act upon arriving will be to freeze all transactions, the sell order would never go through in real life. It would be a completely meaningless gesture.]]



* CaptainErsatz: In-universe, J.T. Marlin has a similiar-sounding name to the much bigger and more reputable J.P. Morgan. Lampshaded when some J.P. Morgan brokers have a confrontation with Seth and his coworkers.

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* CaptainErsatz: In-universe, J.T. Marlin has a similiar-sounding similar-sounding name to the much bigger and more reputable J.P. Morgan. Lampshaded when some J.P. Morgan brokers have a confrontation with Seth and his coworkers.



* FamilyHonor: Marty is constantly worried that his son's illegal living-room casino will endanger his own career as a judge.
* HeelRealization: Seth checks around and [[spoiler:not only discovers the stock he's selling is bogus, but J.T. Marlin has lined up other office space to use if/when they're busted]].
* JerkAss: Greg, who is a prick to everyone who works for him but especially to Seth who is dating his old girlfriend Abby.

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* FamilyHonor: Marty is constantly worried that his son's illegal living-room casino will endanger his own career as a judge.
federal judge. [[spoiler:This is further exacerbated when Marty finds out that J.T. Marlin is actually a boiler room - it's using its brokers to artificially inflate the price of stocks of expired or fake companies (as well as speculative penny stocks) through bogus statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. Once the operators of the scheme "dump" (aka sell) their overvalued shares, the price falls and the investors lose their money.]]
* HeelRealization: HeelRealization[=/=]MyGodWhatHaveIDone[=/=]NotWhatISignedOnFor: Seth checks around and [[spoiler:not only discovers the stock he's selling is bogus, but J.T. Marlin has lined up other office space to use if/when they're busted]].
* TheInformant: [[spoiler: The FBI offer Seth federal immunity if he agrees to testify against J.T. Marlin once all the suspects are brought into court, and threaten to involve Marty in order to assure Seth's cooperation. Seth asserts that he will testify against the firm and provide strong evidence of their illegal practices, but only if his father is not dragged into the case. He and the agents come to an agreement on this, with Seth being kept overnight only to return to work the next day and make copies of investment files onto a floppy disk to use as evidence.]]
* JerkAss: Greg, who is a prick to everyone who works for him him, but especially to Seth who is dating his old girlfriend Abby.



* MissedHimByThatMuch: In an alternate ending for the movie, a guy that Seth cheated out of his money goes to the J.T. Marlin offices with a gun to get revenge. He pulls up in the parking lot just when Seth himself is about to leave the company for his own reasons, and they bump into each other without recognizing the other person.

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* MissedHimByThatMuch: In an alternate ending for the movie, a guy that Seth cheated out of his money goes to the J.T. Marlin offices with a gun to get his revenge. He pulls up in the parking lot just when Seth himself is about to leave the company for his own reasons, and they bump into each other without recognizing the other person.


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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Jim Young, the HR manager and one of the senior brokers, gives one to the trainees.
-->'''Jim Young''': Goddamn it, you fucking guys! I'm gonna keep this short, OK? You passed your Sevens a month ago. Seth's the only one that's opened the necessary 40 accounts for his team leader. When I was a junior broker, I did it in 26 days. Okay? You're not sending out press packets anymore. None of this "Debbie the Time-Life operator" bullshit. So get on the phones! It's time to get to work! Get off your ''ass''! Move around! Motion creates emotion! I remember one time I had this guy call me up, wanted to pitch me. Right? Wanted to sell me stock, so I let him. I got every fucking rebuttal out of this guy, kept him on the phone for an hour and half. Towards the end, I started asking him buying questions like, "What's the firm minimum?" - that's a buying question. Right there, that guy's gotta take me down. It's not like I asked him "What's your 800 number?" - that's a fuck-off question. I was giving him a run, and he blew it, okay, to a question like, "What is the firm minimum?" - the answer is zero. You don't like the idea; don't pick up a single share. But this putz is telling me, you know, "Uh, 100 shares" - Wrong answer! No! '''You have to be closing all the time!''' And be aggressive. Learn how to push. Talk to them. Ask them questions. Ask them rhetorical questions! It doesn't matter. Anything. Just get a "yes" out of 'em! "If you're drowning and I throw you a life jacket, would you grab it? Yes! Good. Pick up 200 shares. I won't let you down." Ask them how they'd like to see 30, 40% returns. What are they gonna say: No? Fuck you? I don't wanna see those returns? ''[some of the trainees snicker]'' Stop laughing. It's not funny. If you can't learn how to close, you better start thinking about another career. And I am deadly serious about that - dead fucking serious! And have your rebuttals ready. A guy says call me tomorrow - bullshit! Somebody tells you that they got money problems about buying 200 shares is lying to you. You know what I say to them? I say: "Hey look, man. Tell me you don't like my firm. Tell me you don't like my idea. Tell me you don't like my fucking necktie. But don't tell me you can't put together 2,500 bucks." And there is no such thing as a no-sale call. A sale is made on every call you make. Either you sell the client some stock, or he sells you on a reason he can't. Either way, a sale is made. The only question is, who's gonna close? You or him? And be relentless. That's it. I'm done.
27th Oct '16 11:53:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* BolivianArmyEnding:
** At the end, [[spoiler:Seth manages to get out from under criminal prosecution by cooperating with the Feds, but the movie ends just as Federal agents storm J.T. Marlin after Seth walks out, leaving it ambiguous exactly what happened to Chris and the rest of the company, or if any of them got away.]]
** There's an alternate take on this in the unused ending: [[spoiler:Seth makes the same deal with the Feds and leaves the building when a customer whose money he stole pulls up in his car with and walks in with a concealed gun. He misses Seth himself, but it's not clear if he went on a shooting spree at J.T Marlin after their brief run-in.]]


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* MissedHimByThatMuch: In an alternate ending for the movie, a guy that Seth cheated out of his money goes to the J.T. Marlin offices with a gun to get revenge. He pulls up in the parking lot just when Seth himself is about to leave the company for his own reasons, and they bump into each other without recognizing the other person.
20th Sep '16 11:32:37 AM Mdumas43073
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''Boiler Room'' is a 2000 American drama film with themes of film noir, written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, Creator/VinDiesel, Nia Long, Creator/BenAffleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin and Jamie Kennedy.

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''Boiler Room'' is a 2000 American drama film with themes elements of film noir, {{film noir}}, written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, Creator/VinDiesel, Nia Long, Creator/BenAffleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin and Jamie Kennedy.
20th Sep '16 11:31:09 AM Mdumas43073
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'''''Boiler Room''''' is a 2000 American drama film with themes of film noir, written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, VinDiesel, Nia Long, Creator/BenAffleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin and Jamie Kennedy.

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'''''Boiler Room''''' ''Boiler Room'' is a 2000 American drama film with themes of film noir, written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, VinDiesel, Creator/VinDiesel, Nia Long, Creator/BenAffleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin and Jamie Kennedy.
3rd Mar '16 8:00:27 AM Morgenthaler
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** Early in the film, Seth and the gang watch a scene from ''WallStreet'', complete with Chris and Michael acting out the parts.
** Later, Greg specifically references ''GlengarryGlenRoss'' when training Seth. Ben Affleck's introductory rant to the new trainees is also an obvious send-up to Alec Baldwin's OneSceneWonder in that film as a foul-mouthed real estate salesman.

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** Early in the film, Seth and the gang watch a scene from ''WallStreet'', ''Film/WallStreet'', complete with Chris and Michael acting out the parts.
** Later, Greg specifically references ''GlengarryGlenRoss'' ''Film/GlengarryGlenRoss'' when training Seth. Ben Affleck's introductory rant to the new trainees is also an obvious send-up to Alec Baldwin's OneSceneWonder in that film as a foul-mouthed real estate salesman.
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