History Film / BeforeTheDevilKnowsYoureDead

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->''"May you be in heaven a full half-hour [[TitleDrop before the devil knows you're dead]]"''

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->''"May you be in heaven a full half-hour [[TitleDrop before the devil knows you're dead]]"''dead]]."''
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Andy's plan [[spoiler:to rob his parent's jewellery store, trusting them to collect insurance afterwards so, essentially they lose nothing]] falters[[spoiler: because, firstly, he doesn't consider the possibility of Hank (the one he tasks to perform the crime) requesting help from a fourth party; secondly, he doesn't expect Hank to involve a gun (neither does Hank - it's introduced by the fourth party); and, thirdly, he doesn't anticipate his mother to retaliate]].

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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Andy's plan [[spoiler:to rob his parent's jewellery store, trusting them to collect insurance afterwards so, essentially so that, essentially, they lose nothing]] falters[[spoiler: because, firstly, he doesn't consider the possibility of Hank (the one he tasks to perform the crime) requesting help from a fourth party; secondly, he doesn't expect Hank to involve a gun (neither does Hank - it's introduced by the fourth party); and, thirdly, he doesn't anticipate his mother to retaliate]].
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* SickbedSlaying: [[spoiler: Andy dies this way at [[OffingTheOffspring Charles']] hands.

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* SickbedSlaying: [[spoiler: Andy dies this way at [[OffingTheOffspring Charles']] hands.]]
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* {{Tragedy}}: [[spoiler:With Andy as the [[TheProtagonist protagonist]] and Hank as the [[{{Deuteragonist}} deuteragonist]], their tragedies unfold accordingly: Andy - who plotted and instigated the robbery and coerced Hank - is murdered for the [[{{Patricide}} death of Nanette]] by [[OffingTheOffspring Charles]], while Hank - who, while attempting to cope with his guilt, [[DefiedTrope contemplates]] [[DrivenToSuicide over-dosing]] - escapes the final crime scene with most of the money to an unknown future.]]

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* {{Tragedy}}: [[spoiler:With Andy as the [[TheProtagonist protagonist]] and Hank as the [[{{Deuteragonist}} deuteragonist]], their tragedies unfold accordingly: Andy - who plotted and instigated the robbery and coerced Hank - is murdered for the [[{{Patricide}} death of Nanette]] by [[OffingTheOffspring Charles]], while Hank - who, while attempting to cope with his guilt, [[DefiedTrope contemplates]] contemplated]] [[DrivenToSuicide over-dosing]] - escapes the final crime scene with most of the money to an unknown future.]]
26th May '17 9:57:36 PM Az_Tech341
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''Before the Devil Knows You're Dead'' is a 2007 CrimeDrama directed by Creator/SidneyLumet in his last film, starring Creator/PhilipSeymourHoffman, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/RosemaryHarris, and Creator/AmyRyan, scored by Music/CarterBurwell.

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''Before the Devil Knows You're Dead'' is a 2007 CrimeDrama directed by Creator/SidneyLumet in his last film, starring Creator/PhilipSeymourHoffman, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/RosemaryHarris, and Creator/AmyRyan, Amy Ryan, scored by Music/CarterBurwell.



* ASimplePlan: Robbing your parent's store, attended by a harmless elderly woman. A victimless crime because insurance will fully compensate their parents for the stolen items.

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* SickbedSlaying: [[spoiler: Andy dies this way at [[OffingTheOffspring Charles']] hands.
* ASimplePlan: Robbing your parent's store, attended by a harmless elderly woman. A victimless victim-less crime because insurance will fully compensate their parents for the stolen items.



%%* {{Tragedy}}:

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%%* * {{Tragedy}}: [[spoiler:With Andy as the [[TheProtagonist protagonist]] and Hank as the [[{{Deuteragonist}} deuteragonist]], their tragedies unfold accordingly: Andy - who plotted and instigated the robbery and coerced Hank - is murdered for the [[{{Patricide}} death of Nanette]] by [[OffingTheOffspring Charles]], while Hank - who, while attempting to cope with his guilt, [[DefiedTrope contemplates]] [[DrivenToSuicide over-dosing]] - escapes the final crime scene with most of the money to an unknown future.]]



* TragicMistake: In the overall scheme of things, the robbery, and within that, bringing in Bobby Lasorda to do the actual robbery.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Andy and Gina. Strangely, ''she's'' the insecure one in need of his assurance that he loves her. And with good reason, as he's so pre-occupied with his problems that he's completely oblivious to how unhappy she is[[spoiler:, and that she's having an affair with his brother]].
* VillainousBreakdown: Andy has an epic one by the end.
* VillainProtagonist: Andy and Hank, the former more than the latter.
* VorpalPillow / SickbedSlaying: [[spoiler: How Andy dies.]]

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* TragicMistake: In the overall scheme of things, it's the robbery, and robbery and, within that, bringing in Bobby Lasorda to do the actual robbery.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Andy and Gina. Strangely, ''she's'' the insecure one in need of his assurance that he loves her. And with good reason, as he's so pre-occupied with his problems that he's completely oblivious to how unhappy she is[[spoiler:, and that she's having an affair with his brother]].
Hank]].
* VillainousBreakdown: Andy has an epic one by the end.
performs this within his car next to Gina, [[FreudianExcuse openly, angrily, and tumultuously declaring his animosity, bitterness, pain, and grief towards Charles]] [[ChewingTheScenery in a heated display]]. Gina initially attempts to calm him, then she scolds him.
* VillainProtagonist: Andy and Hank, Hank qualify[[spoiler:, with Andy as the former more than instigator and Hank as the latter.
executor of the robbery]].
* VorpalPillow / SickbedSlaying: VorpalPillow: [[spoiler: How Andy dies.Charles performs this on Andy.]]
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* {{Jerkass}}: [[TheDeconstruction Deconstructed]]: all the main cast (excluding Nanette) qualify, but each is given a scene in which their despicability is explained as stemming from very natural, existential concerns.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Occasionally, Albert Finney's British accent shines through.

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* {{Jerkass}}: [[TheDeconstruction [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructed]]: all the main cast (excluding Nanette) qualify, but each is given a scene in which their despicability is explained as stemming from very natural, existential concerns.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Occasionally, Albert Finney's Creator/AlbertFinney's British accent shines through.shines.



* PlethoraOfMistakes
* RRatedOpening: The opening shot is a sex scene between [[FanService Marisa Tomei]] and [[FanDisservice Philip Seymour Hoffman]].
* ShoutOut: "Did you touch anything?" "I don't think so." "You don't THINK SO?" very closely echoes a similar conversation in Lumet's ''FamilyBusiness''.
* SiblingsInCrime: Hank and Andy scheme the robbery together, but not the actual execution as Andy fears he might be recognized.

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* PlethoraOfMistakes
PlethoraOfMistakes: It's all contained within the first event portrayed[[spoiler: - the robbery that completely, utterly, and spitefully misfired]].
* RRatedOpening: The opening shot is a sex scene between [[FanService Marisa Tomei]] and [[FanDisservice Philip Seymour Hoffman]].
Hoffman.
* ShoutOut: "Did you touch anything?" "I don't think so." "You don't THINK SO?" very closely echoes a similar conversation in Lumet's ''FamilyBusiness''.
''Film/FamilyBusiness''.
* SiblingsInCrime: Andy schemes the crime, but Hank and Andy scheme the robbery together, but not the actual execution performs it, as Andy fears he might be recognized.



* StealingFromTheTill: Andy sets everything in motion because he faces an upcoming audit that will reveal his having embezzled from his employer [[HarsherInHindsight to fund a heroin addiction.]].
* {{Tragedy}}: The happiest it ever gets is when Hank and Andy first hatch the scheme to rob their parents' jewelry store.
* ATragedyOfImpulsiveness: Man, if Hank had only stuck to the plan...
** [[FridgeHorror He'd have been shot by his own mother.]]

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* StealingFromTheTill: Andy sets everything in motion because he faces an upcoming audit that will reveal his having embezzled from his employer [[HarsherInHindsight to fund a heroin addiction.]].addiction]].
* {{Tragedy}}: The happiest it ever gets is when Hank and Andy first hatch the scheme to rob their parents' jewelry store.
%%* {{Tragedy}}:
* ATragedyOfImpulsiveness: Man, if Hank had only stuck to the plan...
** [[FridgeHorror He'd have been shot by his own mother.]]
plan....



* UglyGuyHotWife: Andy and Gina. Strangely, ''she's'' the insecure one in need of his assurance that he loves her. And with good reason, as he's so pre-occupied with his problems that he's completely oblivious to how unhappy she is--[[spoiler: and that she's having an affair with his brother.]]

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* UglyGuyHotWife: Andy and Gina. Strangely, ''she's'' the insecure one in need of his assurance that he loves her. And with good reason, as he's so pre-occupied with his problems that he's completely oblivious to how unhappy she is--[[spoiler: is[[spoiler:, and that she's having an affair with his brother.]]brother]].



* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: [[LoveTriangle Gina cheats on Andy with Hank]]]].

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* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: [[LoveTriangle [[spoiler:[[LoveTriangle Gina cheats on Andy with Hank]]]].
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* TheAlcoholic: [[spoiler: WordOfGod confirms that Hank will most likely be one after escaping with the money.]]
* AlliterativeName: Hank Hanson.

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* TheAlcoholic: [[spoiler: WordOfGod confirms that Hank will most likely be one after escaping with the money.]]
* AlliterativeName: Hank Hanson."Hank Hanson".



* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: Seeing how Andy was responsible for three people's deaths (one of whom was his own mother), very few people felt sad when Charles finally kills him.]]
* BigBrotherInstinct: Dex might be a menacing bully towards Hank, but when all is said and done, he's looking out for his sister.
* CainAndAbel: Hank is the Abel to Andy's Cain.
* DownerEnding: [[spoiler: Andy and Hank's mother is dead, Andy murders three people, Charles smothers Andy to death with a pillow, and [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism everybody who's still alive is facing a bleak, meaningless existence for the rest of their lives]]. Further, it's [[WordOfGod pointed out in the commentary]] that Hank has the money, but will probably blow it all on alcohol.]]

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: Seeing how Andy was responsible for three people's deaths (one of whom was his own mother), very few people felt sad when Charles finally kills him.]]
* BigBrotherInstinct: Dex might be a menacing bully towards Hank, but but, when all is said and done, he's looking out for his sister.
* CainAndAbel: Hank Andy is the Abel Cain to Andy's Cain.
Hank's Abel.
* DownerEnding: [[spoiler: Andy and Hank's mother is dead, Andy murders three people, Charles smothers Andy to death with a pillow, and [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism everybody who's still alive is facing a bleak, meaningless existence for the rest of their lives]]. Further, it's [[WordOfGod pointed out in the commentary]] that Hank has the money, but will probably blow it all on alcohol.]]



* FaceDeathWithDignity: At one point during their disastrous escape attempt, [[spoiler:Hank]] is about to let [[spoiler:Andy]] shoot him dead. [[spoiler:But then Chris suddenly shoots Andy from behind]].
* GoneHorriblyWrong: Horribly, '''horribly''' wrong.
* IdiosyncraticWipes
* IKEAErotica: The opening sex scene is played with such passionless blandness that it's almost painful. Arguably a case of TropesAreNotBad, though, as it's utilized to offer a window into Andy's psyche rather than simply being boring.

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* FaceDeathWithDignity: At one point during their disastrous escape attempt, [[spoiler:Hank]] is about to let [[spoiler:Andy]] shoot him dead. [[spoiler:But then Chris suddenly shoots Andy from behind]].
behind.]]
* GoneHorriblyWrong: Horribly, '''horribly''' wrong.
* IdiosyncraticWipes
* IKEAErotica: The opening sex scene is played with such passionless blandness that it's almost painful. Arguably a case of TropesAreNotBad, though, as it's utilized to offer a window into
Andy's psyche rather than simply being boring.plan [[spoiler:to rob his parent's jewellery store, trusting them to collect insurance afterwards so, essentially they lose nothing]] falters[[spoiler: because, firstly, he doesn't consider the possibility of Hank (the one he tasks to perform the crime) requesting help from a fourth party; secondly, he doesn't expect Hank to involve a gun (neither does Hank - it's introduced by the fourth party); and, thirdly, he doesn't anticipate his mother to retaliate]].
* IdiosyncraticWipes: The events transition via strobing and accelerating back-and-forth cuts of the current scene with the upcoming one.



* {{Jerkass}}: Most characters can qualify, but Hank's ex-wife (Creator/AmyRyan) is more obvious than others.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Considering what an utter failure he seems to be as a father, it's pretty understandable.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Occasionally Albert Finney's British accent shines through.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Most characters can [[TheDeconstruction Deconstructed]]: all the main cast (excluding Nanette) qualify, but Hank's ex-wife (Creator/AmyRyan) each is more obvious than others.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Considering what an utter failure he seems to be
given a scene in which their despicability is explained as a father, it's pretty understandable.
stemming from very natural, existential concerns.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Occasionally Occasionally, Albert Finney's British accent shines through.
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* AlliterativeName: Hank Hanson
* AnachronicOrder

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* AlliterativeName: Hank Hanson
Hanson.
* AnachronicOrderAnachronicOrder: The film portrays its chronological events in order of sequential, unraveling [[TheReveal reveals]] after the bank robbery.
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''Before the Devil Knows You're Dead'' is a 2007 CrimeDrama directed by Creator/SidneyLumet in his last film, starring Creator/PhilipSeymourHoffman, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/RosemaryHarris and Creator/AmyRyan, scored by Music/CarterBurwell.

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''Before the Devil Knows You're Dead'' is a 2007 CrimeDrama directed by Creator/SidneyLumet in his last film, starring Creator/PhilipSeymourHoffman, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/RosemaryHarris Creator/RosemaryHarris, and Creator/AmyRyan, scored by Music/CarterBurwell.
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''Before The Devil Knows You're Dead'' is a 2007 CrimeDrama directed by Creator/SidneyLumet in his last film, starring Creator/PhilipSeymourHoffman, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/RosemaryHarris and Creator/AmyRyan, scored by Music/CarterBurwell.

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''Before The the Devil Knows You're Dead'' is a 2007 CrimeDrama directed by Creator/SidneyLumet in his last film, starring Creator/PhilipSeymourHoffman, Creator/EthanHawke, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/RosemaryHarris and Creator/AmyRyan, scored by Music/CarterBurwell.



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