History Film / BatmanReturns

18th Sep '17 6:48:46 PM Tightwire
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* AlasPoorVillain: After being knocked through a skylight window and nearly drowning, and then weakly emerging from the Arctic World pool burned, bleeding, and vomiting up toxic waste, [[spoiler: the Penguin dies completely unrepentant, still raving about how he intends to take Batman to Hell with him. But through it all, we can't ever forget that this is someone who was forced to grow up in a cold and lonely sewer ever since he was a boy, and for whom Bruce Wayne -- who as Batman is largely responsible for his death -- once expressed sympathy as a fellow orphan. The moving "funeral" that a group of emperor penguins hold for the villain helps to soften the blow, too.]]

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* AlasPoorVillain: After being knocked through a skylight window and nearly drowning, and then weakly emerging from the Arctic World pool burned, bleeding, and vomiting up toxic waste, [[spoiler: the Penguin dies completely unrepentant, still raving about how he intends to take Batman to Hell with him. But through it all, we can't ever forget that this is someone who was forced to grow up in a cold and lonely sewer ever since he was a boy, and for whom Bruce Wayne -- who as Batman is largely responsible for his death -- once expressed sympathy as a fellow orphan. The moving "funeral" that a group of emperor penguins hold for the villain helps to soften the blow, too.orphan.]]
6th Aug '17 5:43:29 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Surrounded by Penguin's thugs on the street, Batman's point of view shifts from a clown with a bazooka, to one with some nunchucks, to one with some impossibly long ''[[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]]'' blades... To [[{{Lolicon}} a grown woman in a "Little Bo Peep" outfit]] and a little poodle with a pink bow in its fur. The lady and her poodle prove to be the most dangerous of the bunch.

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** Surrounded by Penguin's thugs on the street, Batman's point of view shifts from a clown with a bazooka, to one with some nunchucks, to one with some impossibly long ''[[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]]'' blades... To [[{{Lolicon}} a grown woman in a "Little Bo Peep" outfit]] outfit and a little poodle with a pink bow in its fur. The lady and her poodle prove to be the most dangerous of the bunch.
29th Jul '17 5:16:28 PM Kadorhal
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The first sequel to ''Film/{{Batman}}''. Like its predecessor, it was directed by Creator/TimBurton and starred Creator/MichaelKeaton as the eponymous crime fighter.

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The first sequel to ''Film/{{Batman}}''.''Film/{{Batman}}'', seeing release in 1992. Like its predecessor, it was directed by Creator/TimBurton and starred Creator/MichaelKeaton as the eponymous crime fighter.



* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Bruce levels one at her when she reveals that [[spoiler:she came to kill Shreck during the ball]].
-->'''Bruce:''' I know you've got problems with your boss, but...who the hell do you think you are?
-->'''Selina:''' ''(in tears)'' I don't know anymore, Bruce...

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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Bruce levels one at her Selina when she reveals that [[spoiler:she came to kill Shreck during the ball]].
-->'''Bruce:''' I know you've got problems with your boss, but...who the hell do you think you are?
-->'''Selina:'''
are?\\
'''Selina:'''
''(in tears)'' I don't know anymore, Bruce...



--->'''Shreck:''' So he survived. What's the worry?
--->'''Penguin:''' He didn't even lose a limb! An eyeball! Bladder control!

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--->'''Shreck:''' So he survived. What's the worry?
--->'''Penguin:'''
worry?\\
'''Penguin:'''
He didn't even lose a limb! An eyeball! Bladder control!



--->'''News Reporter:''' So, Mr. Penguin!
--->'''Penguin:''' A penguin is a bird that cannot fly! I am a man! I have a name! Oswald Cobblepot!

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--->'''News Reporter:''' So, Mr. Penguin!
--->'''Penguin:'''
Penguin!\\
'''Penguin:'''
A penguin is a bird that cannot fly! I am a man! I have a name! Oswald Cobblepot!



---->'''Skinny Clown:''' Great speech, Oswald!
---->'''Penguin:''' ''(strike him with his umbrella)'' [[ThenLetMeBeEvil My name is not Oswald! It's PENGUIN! I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING! I AM AN ANIMAL! COLD BLOODED!]]

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---->'''Skinny Clown:''' Great speech, Oswald!
---->'''Penguin:'''
Oswald!\\
'''Penguin:'''
''(strike him with his umbrella)'' [[ThenLetMeBeEvil My name is not Oswald! It's PENGUIN! I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING! I AM AN ANIMAL! COLD BLOODED!]]



-->'''Selina Kyle:''' I heard on TV that Catwoman's thought to weigh 140 pounds. ''[scoffs]'' I dunno how these hacks ''sleep'' at night.
-->'''Bruce Wayne:''' It's not even accurate: "Batman ''Blows'' It?!" He probably saved millions of dollars in property damage ''alone.''

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-->'''Selina Kyle:''' I heard on TV that Catwoman's thought to weigh 140 pounds. ''[scoffs]'' I dunno how these hacks ''sleep'' at night.
-->'''Bruce
night.\\
'''Bruce
Wayne:''' It's not even accurate: "Batman ''Blows'' It?!" He probably saved millions of dollars in property damage ''alone.''



** Selina repeats the line she heard (as Catwoman), from Batman, telling it to Bruce, who repeats what he heard from CATWOMAN back to Selina, poetically reversing the line order. Cue mutual shock and horror.
--->'''Selina''' (frightened whisper): "Oh my God. Does this mean we have to start fighting?"
--->'''Bruce''' (equally creeped out): "Let's go outside."

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** Selina repeats the line she heard (as Catwoman), from Batman, telling it to Bruce, who repeats what he heard from CATWOMAN Catwoman back to Selina, poetically reversing the line order. Cue mutual shock and horror.
--->'''Selina''' (frightened whisper): "Oh --->'''Selina:''' ''(in a frightened whisper)'' Oh my God. Does this mean we have to start fighting?"
--->'''Bruce''' (equally
fighting?\\
'''Bruce:''' ''(equally
creeped out): "Let's out)'' Let's go outside."



-->'''Selina''': “Oh my God. Does this mean we have to fight each other?”

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-->'''Selina''': “Oh Oh my God. Does this mean we have to fight each other?”other?



-->'''Fat Clown''': I mean, killing sleeping children. Isn't that a little...
-->'''Penguin''': '''[[KickTheDog BANG!]]''' No. It's a lot!

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-->'''Fat Clown''': I mean, killing sleeping children. Isn't that a little...
-->'''Penguin''':
little...\\
'''Penguin''':
'''[[KickTheDog BANG!]]''' No. It's a lot!



-->'''Max:''' You said you were just going to ''scare'' her.
-->'''Penguin:''' She looked pretty scared to me!

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-->'''Max:''' You said you were just going to ''scare'' her.
-->'''Penguin:'''
her.\\
'''Penguin:'''
She looked pretty scared to me!



-->'''Bruce:''' (after Selina tells him of her plan to kill Shreck) Who the hell do you think you are?\\

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-->'''Bruce:''' (after ''(after Selina tells him of her plan to kill Shreck) Shreck)'' Who the hell do you think you are?\\



-->'''Fat Clown:''' I mean, killing sleeping children. Isn't that a little... err...?
-->'''Penguin:''' ''(BANG!)'' No, it's a lot!

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-->'''Fat Clown:''' I mean, killing sleeping children. Isn't that a little... err...?
-->'''Penguin:'''
?\\
'''Penguin:'''
''(BANG!)'' No, it's a lot!



-->'''Henchman:''' I mean, killing sleeping children. Isn't that a little...
-->''*BANG*''
-->'''Penguin:''' No... it's a ''lot''!

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-->'''Henchman:''' I mean, killing sleeping children. Isn't that a little...
-->''*BANG*''
-->'''Penguin:'''
little...\\
''*BANG*''\\
'''Penguin:'''
No... it's a ''lot''!



'''Batman:''' [VisibleSilence, then leaves]\\

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'''Batman:''' [VisibleSilence, [more visible silence, then leaves]\\



-->'''Catwoman:''' How could you? I'm a woman!
-->'''Batman:''' I'm sorry, I...
-->''(POW!)''
-->'''Catwoman:''' As I was saying, I'm a woman and can't be taken for granted. Life's a bitch, now so am I!

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-->'''Catwoman:''' How could you? I'm a woman!
-->'''Batman:'''
woman!\\
'''Batman:'''
I'm sorry, I...
-->''(POW!)''
-->'''Catwoman:'''
I...\\
''(POW!)''\\
'''Catwoman:'''
As I was saying, I'm a woman and can't be taken for granted. Life's a bitch, now so am I!



--> '''Catwoman:''' You said you were going to ''scare'' the Ice Princess.
--> '''The Penguin:''' She looked pretty scared to me!

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--> '''Catwoman:''' -->'''Catwoman:''' You said you were going to ''scare'' the Ice Princess.
-->
Princess.\\
'''The Penguin:''' She looked pretty scared to me!
28th Jul '17 10:02:47 PM Dravencour
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* AlphaBitch: The depiction of the Ice Princess, [[AllThereInTheScript at least in the shooting script]]. One scene that was filmed but ultimately cut showed her tearing through Gotham Plaza amidst all the gang violence and [[KickTheDog shoving an old woman to the ground so that]] ''she'd'' [[DirtyCoward get trampled instead!]] But these character traits are softened in the finished film, so the Princess just comes off just as Spoiled Sweet.

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* AlphaBitch: The depiction of the Ice Princess, [[AllThereInTheScript at least in the shooting script]]. One scene that was filmed but ultimately cut showed her tearing through Gotham Plaza amidst all the gang violence and [[KickTheDog shoving an old woman to the ground so that]] ''she'd'' [[DirtyCoward get trampled instead!]] But these character traits are softened in the finished film, so the Princess just comes off just as Spoiled Sweet.SpoiledSweet.



* [[TheDogBitesBack The Cat Bites Back]]: Max Shreck throws Selina Kyle out of her office when he suspects she knows something. This results in her transformation into Catwoman [[spoiler: and uses her (supposedly) last life to kill Shreck with a literal KissOfDeath (courtesy of electric wires and a stungun)]].

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* [[TheDogBitesBack The Cat Bites Back]]: Max Shreck [[DestinationDefenestration literally]] throws Selina Kyle out of her office when he suspects she knows something. This results in her transformation into Catwoman [[spoiler: and uses her (supposedly) last life to kill Shreck with a literal KissOfDeath (courtesy of electric wires and a stungun)]].


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* DestinationDefenestration: Max tries to kill Selina this way, pushing her out a high-story window. She primarily survives by going through several canopies and being resuscitated by Miss Kitty and her coterie of cats.
18th Jul '17 8:08:46 PM TropesForever
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* BowtiesAreCool: Max Shreck always wears them with his suits, often combined with evil black gloves.
12th Jul '17 10:21:27 PM professionalsweetheart
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* RuleOfSymbolism: After Penguin has initially turned down Shreck's suggestion that he run for mayor of Gotham City, he starts to retreat back upstairs to his office. Shreck tails him, catching up with him at the foot of the stairs and whispering three temptations into his ear. Penguin responds with: "You drive a hard bargain, Maxie. All right, I'll be Mayor." The two then look out the window over the city: Penguin cries "Burn, baby, burn!" and Max gets a glittery, avaricious look in his eyes. The parallels with the Gospel of Matthew, chaper 4, are eerie.

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* RuleOfSymbolism: After Penguin has initially turned down Shreck's suggestion that he run for mayor of Gotham City, he starts to retreat back upstairs to his office. Shreck tails him, catching up with him at the foot of the stairs and whispering three temptations into his ear. Penguin responds with: "You drive a hard bargain, Maxie. All right, I'll be Mayor." The two then look out the window over the city: Penguin cries "Burn, baby, burn!" and Max gets a glittery, avaricious look in his eyes. The parallels with the Gospel of Matthew, chaper chapter 4, are eerie.
7th Jul '17 4:06:34 PM JM1982
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* PragmaticVillainy: When Selina turns up alive after Schreck tries to kill her, he decides to leave her alone for the time being. However, he tells Chip that if Selina tries to blackmail him, he'll push her out of a higher window.
8th Jun '17 10:57:00 PM BohemianBob43
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* DisneyVillainDeath: Subverted twice. The first time, Selina is pushed out of a high window by Max Shreck and appears to be dead but revives a while afterwards. The second time, [[spoiler:Penguin falls through the skylight of his lair and into the toxic water below but emerges from it a few minutes later and attempts to kill Batman. However, he quickly succumbs to the toxin and his injuries before he gets the chance.]]

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* DisneyVillainDeath: Subverted twice. The first time, Selina is pushed out of a high window by Max Shreck and appears to be dead but revives a while afterwards.afterwards and becomes Catwoman. The second time, [[spoiler:Penguin falls through the skylight of his lair and into the toxic water below but emerges from it a few minutes later and attempts to kill Batman. However, he quickly succumbs to the toxin and his injuries before he gets the chance.]]
8th Jun '17 10:54:56 PM BohemianBob43
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* DisneyVillainDeath: Subverted twice. The first time, Selina is pushed out of a high window by Max Shreck and appears to be dead but revives a while afterwards. The second time, [[spoiler:Penguin falls through the skylight of his lair and into the toxic water below but emerges from it a few minutes later and attempts to kill Batman. However, he quickly succumbs to the toxin and his injuries before he gets the chance.]]
8th Jun '17 9:08:19 AM mkmckoy
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-->'''Selina''': “Oh my God. Does this mean we have to fight each other?”
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