History Film / Barfly

8th Jul '16 6:24:43 PM Mdumas43073
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->''Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must live.''

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->''Some ->''"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must live.''
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A 1987 film directed by Barbet Schroeder, starring Mickey Rourke and Faye Dunaway.



But maybe it is about three people, a man and two women, who constitute a LoveTriangle in which one woman makes a myth out of the sad reality and the other strives for making reality out of a myth, and man stands between them and waits for the ending of the conflict.

Or maybe it is simply about one man with the life of a drunkard and the mind of a poet, who tries to find out what should be his final attitude towards illusions.

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But maybe it is about three ''three'' people, a man and two women, who constitute a LoveTriangle in which one woman makes a myth out of the sad reality and the other strives for making reality out of a myth, and man stands between them and waits for the ending of the conflict.

Or maybe it is simply about one ''one'' man with the life of a drunkard and the mind of a poet, who tries to find out what should be his final attitude towards illusions.



Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, is an AuthorAvatar for Creator/CharlesBukowski, who also wrote the film's screenplay. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.

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Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, Chinaski (Rourke), is an AuthorAvatar for Creator/CharlesBukowski, who also wrote the film's screenplay. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, Eddie (Frank Stallone), infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, Wilcox (Dunaway), a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, Sorenson (Alice Krige), a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective (Jack Nance) to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.


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31st Oct '15 2:40:00 PM Morgenthaler
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* TheAlcoholic: too many to count, but in the first place Henry and Wanda.
* AngerBornOfWorry: Wanda seems prone to that.
* BarBrawl: at least three of them.

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* %%* TheAlcoholic: too many to count, but in the first place Henry and Wanda.
* %%* AngerBornOfWorry: Wanda seems prone to that.
* %%* BarBrawl: at least three of them.



* CatFight: the final scene.
* TheDeterminator: Tully.

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* %%* CatFight: the final scene.
* %%* TheDeterminator: Tully.



* {{Existentialism}}: of a DIY sort.
* GreenEyedMonster: between Wanda and Tully.
* GrievousBottleyHarm: employed by Wanda.

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* %%* {{Existentialism}}: of a DIY sort.
* %%* GreenEyedMonster: between Wanda and Tully.
* %%* GrievousBottleyHarm: employed by Wanda.



* HairTriggerTemper: Wanda.
* HardDrinkingPartyGirl: Every hooker in the bar.
* HopelessSuitor: [[spoiler:Tully]].
* IAmWhatIAm: Henry.

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* %%* HairTriggerTemper: Wanda.
* %%* HardDrinkingPartyGirl: Every hooker in the bar.
* %%* HopelessSuitor: [[spoiler:Tully]].
* %%* IAmWhatIAm: Henry.



* LibertyOverProsperity: seems to be Henry's view.
* LocalHangout: Eddie's bar.
* LonelyAtTheTop: Tully seems to have this problem.
* LoveMakesYouEvil: happens to Wanda.
* LovingAShadow: Tully.
* LowerClassLout: pretty much everyone with the exception of Tully.
* PermaStubble: Henry has it.
* RichBoredom: Tully displays some signs of it.
* [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]: Tully, apparently.

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* %%* LibertyOverProsperity: seems to be Henry's view.
* %%* LocalHangout: Eddie's bar.
* %%* LonelyAtTheTop: Tully seems to have this problem.
* %%* LoveMakesYouEvil: happens to Wanda.
* %%* LovingAShadow: Tully.
* %%* LowerClassLout: pretty much everyone with the exception of Tully.
* %%* PermaStubble: Henry has it.
* %%* RichBoredom: Tully displays some signs of it.
* [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]: %%* SelfMadeWoman: Tully, apparently.



* WifeBasherBasher: Henry.
* WishfulProjection: Tully suffers from this quite a bit.

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* %%* WifeBasherBasher: Henry.
* %%* WishfulProjection: Tully suffers from this quite a bit.
31st Oct '15 8:12:40 AM Morgenthaler
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24th Nov '13 4:32:57 PM JohnnyLurg
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Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, is an AuthorAvatar for Creator/CharlesBukowski, who wrote the autobiographical novel on which the movie was based and, later, the screenplay for the movie itself. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.

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Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, is an AuthorAvatar for Creator/CharlesBukowski, who also wrote the autobiographical novel on which the movie was based and, later, the screenplay for the movie itself.film's screenplay. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.
15th Mar '13 9:15:28 AM LordGro
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Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, is an AuthorAvatar for CharlesBukowski, who wrote the autobiographical novel on which the movie was based and, later, the screenplay for the movie itself. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.

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Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, is an AuthorAvatar for CharlesBukowski, Creator/CharlesBukowski, who wrote the autobiographical novel on which the movie was based and, later, the screenplay for the movie itself. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.
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* WishfulProjection: Tully suffers from this quite a bit.

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* WishfulProjection: Tully suffers from this quite a bit.bit.
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2nd Sep '12 10:38:17 AM VeritasVierge
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* BottleFairy: every hooker in the bar.


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* HardDrinkingPartyGirl: Every hooker in the bar.
29th Jul '12 4:48:07 PM GreenTeaAddict
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Of course, there is also an unpleasant possibility that it is simply about sex, bar fights, and cheap philosophy.
29th Jul '12 4:47:07 PM GreenTeaAddict
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But maybe it is about three people, a man and two women, who constitute a LoveTriangle in which one woman makes a myth out of the sad reality and the other strives for making reality out of a myth, and man stands between them and philosophizes.

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But maybe it is about three people, a man and two women, who constitute a LoveTriangle in which one woman makes a myth out of the sad reality and the other strives for making reality out of a myth, and man stands between them and philosophizes.
waits for the ending of the conflict.
29th Jul '12 4:36:56 PM GreenTeaAddict
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->''Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must live.''

Maybe it is a movie about two people, a man and a woman, who make a disillusioned attempt to change their life from a series of drinking bouts to a traditional homely model which will give them the feeling of safety.

But maybe it is about three people, a man and two women, who constitute a LoveTriangle in which one woman makes a myth out of the sad reality and the other strives for making reality out of a myth, and man stands between them and philosophizes.

Or maybe it is simply about one man with the life of a drunkard and the mind of a poet, who tries to find out what should be his final attitude towards illusions.
Anyway, the main character, Henry Chinaski, is an AuthorAvatar for CharlesBukowski, who wrote the autobiographical novel on which the movie was based and, later, the screenplay for the movie itself. His life consists of drinking and bar-brawling, apparently for no other reason than that the sole existence of his archnemesis, Eddie, infuriates him (the feeling is mutual, so he has many occasions to fight). Once more beaten by Eddie, he returns to the bar and meets Wanda Wilcox, a classy but crazy heavy drinker, with whom he fells in love at first sight. They get to live together, drink together, and sleep together. He is even planning to get a job. Little does he know that Tully Sorenson, a young female intellectual and the owner of a literary magazine, got fascinated by his short stories and hired a private detective to find him so that she could convince him to change his life, move to the upper class and become a full-time writer. With their meeting comes the understanding that he is just unable to be anyone else than himself.

!!Contains the following tropes:

* TheAlcoholic: too many to count, but in the first place Henry and Wanda.
* AngerBornOfWorry: Wanda seems prone to that.
* BarBrawl: at least three of them.
* BlackComedy: Henry nearly falls the victim of CryingWolf, when a medical emergency call to a dying person is made from his apartment FOR THE THIRD TIME.
* BottleFairy: every hooker in the bar.
* BruiserWithASoftCenter: Henry. Judging from the behaviour of the ladies around him, he is also considered something of a LovableRogue.
* CatFight: the final scene.
* TheDeterminator: Tully.
* DoYouWantToHaggle: a hooker in the pub and her client, about a blowjob, no less.
* DrunkenMaster: Henry usually fights when drunk - and sometimes wins.
* {{Existentialism}}: of a DIY sort.
* GreenEyedMonster: between Wanda and Tully.
* GrievousBottleyHarm: employed by Wanda.
* GuysAreSlobs: most notably, Henry - but it seems to be a common characteristic of the men attending Eddie's bar, who more often than not are covered with blood and booze at the same time.
* HairTriggerTemper: Wanda.
* HopelessSuitor: [[spoiler:Tully]].
* IAmWhatIAm: Henry.
* LadyDrunk: most notably, Lily - but Wanda seems to be very close to it at the time of her first meeting with Henry.
* LibertyOverProsperity: seems to be Henry's view.
* LocalHangout: Eddie's bar.
* LonelyAtTheTop: Tully seems to have this problem.
* LoveMakesYouEvil: happens to Wanda.
* LovingAShadow: Tully.
* LowerClassLout: pretty much everyone with the exception of Tully.
* PermaStubble: Henry has it.
* RichBoredom: Tully displays some signs of it.
* [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]: Tully, apparently.
* StalkerWithACrush: Tully, though the stalking is done by proxy.
* {{Streetwalker}}: Henry has a conversation with one of them.
* UnwantedRescue: Henry does it to the neighbour whose husband is a DomesticAbuser. Leads to an AbuseMistake with tragic results.
* WifeBasherBasher: Henry.
* WishfulProjection: Tully suffers from this quite a bit.
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