History Film / AllThePresidentsMen

23rd May '17 7:41:16 PM mlsmithca
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* DirtyCop: John Mitchell, the Top Cop - Attorney General - of ''United States law enforcement''.
** Averted for the most part by the cops and law enforcement types at the grunt level.
** The Watergate Burglars and their handlers were mostly CIA: technically dirty ''spies'',[[note]]Which is essentially what spies do, after all - look for material in someone's history that a ''normal'' person would try to see as private subject matter by generally devious and often underhanded means.[[/note]] not cops.



* DirtyCop:
** John Mitchell, the Top Cop - Attorney General - of ''United States law enforcement''.
** Averted for the most part by the cops and law enforcement types at the grunt level.
** The Watergate Burglars and their handlers were mostly CIA: technically dirty ''spies'',[[note]]Which is essentially what spies do, after all - look for material in someone's history that a ''normal'' person would try to see as private subject matter by generally devious and often underhanded means.[[/note]] not cops.



* ForensicAccounting: The movie made the phrase "Follow the money" a part of the political lexicon and popular culture. In the film, it is whispered to reporter Bob Woodward by Deep Throat as a way to cut through the lies and deceptions and find the truth about the Watergate scandal. This is a fictionalized line created by the movie, but nevertheless catches the spirit of the process perfectly.



* ForensicAccounting: The movie made the phrase "Follow the money" a part of the political lexicon and popular culture. In the film, it is whispered to reporter Bob Woodward by Deep Throat as a way to cut through the lies and deceptions and find the truth about the Watergate scandal. This is a fictionalized line created by the movie, but nevertheless catches the spirit of the process perfectly.



-->'''Bradlee:''' Nothing's riding on this except the, uh, First Amendment to the Constitution, freedom of the press, and maybe the future of the country. Not that any of that matters, but if you guys fuck up again, I'm gonna get mad. Goodnight.

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-->'''Bradlee:''' ** This from Ben Bradlee:
--->'''Bradlee:'''
Nothing's riding on this except the, uh, First Amendment to the Constitution, freedom of the press, and maybe the future of the country. Not that any of that matters, but if you guys fuck up again, I'm gonna get mad. Goodnight.
23rd May '17 7:38:06 PM mlsmithca
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* OhCrap: Woodward has a muted one in the midst of a phone interview with Kenneth Dahlberg, who was connected to a $25,000 check that was deposited into the account of one of the Watergate burglars. When Dahlberg says "I...really shouldn't tell you this," Woodward is more annoyed than anything else at the hemming and hawing of his interviewee. But when Dahlberg discloses that he gave the money to ''Maurice Stans'' [[note]] Stans was the Finance chair for the Committee to Re-Elect The President and was at one point in Nixon's presidential cabinet [[/note]], Woodward has a brief ThousandYardStare as he realizes that this is ''far'' more than a simple botched burglary: this is something that the ''White House'' might have been aware of.

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* OhCrap: OhCrap:
** When Woodward calls E. Howard Hunt early in the investigation and asks him why his name and number are in the address books of two of the Watergate burglars, a horrified Hunt exclaims, "Good God!" Woodward writes down his reaction verbatim, although Hunt ends the call very soon afterward.
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Woodward has a muted one in the midst of a phone interview with Kenneth Dahlberg, who was connected to a $25,000 check that was deposited into the account of one of the Watergate burglars. When Dahlberg says "I...really shouldn't tell you this," Woodward is more annoyed than anything else at the hemming and hawing of his interviewee. But when Dahlberg discloses that he gave the money to ''Maurice Stans'' [[note]] Stans was the Finance chair for the Committee to Re-Elect The President and was at one point in Nixon's presidential cabinet [[/note]], Woodward has a brief ThousandYardStare as he realizes that this is ''far'' more than a simple botched burglary: this is something that the ''White House'' might have been aware of.



* RealityIsUnrealistic: At one point Woodward is trying to interview a noticeably upset man (Kenneth H. Dahlberg, the top Republican fundraiser in Minnesota) over the phone about unusual campaign contributions. Without warning, Dahlberg says "I canít talk to you right now, my neighbor's wife has been kidnapped!" and hangs up. What looks like [[INeedToGoIronMyDog a weird excuse to avoid questioning]], however, wasn't: his neighbor's wife ''was'' kidnapped, and Dahlberg was overwhelmed with helping his neighbor out at the time. (This was the Virginia Piper case. She was fine - shaken up, but not hurt.) Dahlberg did indeed call back later and answer some of Woodward's questions.

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* RealityIsUnrealistic: RealityIsUnrealistic:
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At one point Woodward is trying to interview a noticeably upset man (Kenneth H. Dahlberg, the top Republican fundraiser in Minnesota) over the phone about unusual campaign contributions. Without warning, Dahlberg says "I canít talk to you right now, my neighbor's wife has been kidnapped!" and hangs up. What looks like [[INeedToGoIronMyDog a weird excuse to avoid questioning]], however, wasn't: his neighbor's wife ''was'' kidnapped, and Dahlberg was overwhelmed with helping his neighbor out at the time. (This was the Virginia Piper case. She was fine - shaken up, but not hurt.) Dahlberg did indeed call back later and answer some of Woodward's questions.



* WhatTheHellHero: One of the editors questions why the ''Post'' is digging into Watergate. Partly because nobody else was covering the story at all, but mostly because the break-in itself made no sense.
-->'''Scott''': Why would the Republicans do it? [=McGovern=]'s self-destructed just like [[UsefulNotes/HubertHumphrey Humphrey]], Muskie, the bunch of them. I don't believe this story. It doesn't make sense.
** Until Woodward and Bernstein uncover evidence that a hired trickster ó Donald Segretti ó was sabotaging Democratic primaries. [[EurekaMoment All of a sudden, the break-in made more sense...]]

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* WhatTheHellHero: WhatTheHellHero:
**
One of the editors questions why the ''Post'' is digging into Watergate. Partly because nobody else was covering the story at all, but mostly because the break-in itself made no sense.
-->'''Scott''': Why would the Republicans do it? [=McGovern=]'s self-destructed just like [[UsefulNotes/HubertHumphrey Humphrey]], Muskie, the bunch of them. I don't believe this story. It doesn't make sense.
** Until
sense. (Until Woodward and Bernstein uncover evidence that a hired trickster ó Donald Segretti ó was sabotaging Democratic primaries. [[EurekaMoment All of a sudden, the break-in made more sense...]]]])
--->'''Scott''': Why would the Republicans do it? [=McGovern=]'s self-destructed just like [[UsefulNotes/HubertHumphrey Humphrey]], Muskie, the bunch of them. I don't believe this story. It doesn't make sense.



-->'''Sally Aiken:''' I guess I don't have the taste for the jugular you guys have.

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-->'''Sally --->'''Sally Aiken:''' I guess I don't have the taste for the jugular you guys have.
29th Apr '17 2:01:02 PM justpat
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--> '''Deep Throat:''' They bugged offices, they followed people, planted false press leaks, passed fake letters... they canceled Democratic campaign rallies, they investigated Democratic private lives, they planted spies, they stole documents... and now don't tell me that all of this was the work of one Donald Segretti.

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--> '''Deep Throat:''' They bugged offices, they followed people, planted false press leaks, passed fake letters... they canceled Democratic campaign rallies, they investigated Democratic private lives, they planted spies, they stole documents... and now don't tell me that all of this was the work of one Donald little Don Segretti.
19th Apr '17 9:43:24 AM GrecoRomanGuy
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** Averted for the most part by the cops and law enforcement types at the grunt level.
** The Watergate Burglars and their handlers were mostly CIA: technically dirty ''spies'',[[note]]Which is essentially what spies do, after all - look for material in someone's history that a ''normal'' person would try to see as private subject matter by generally devious and often underhanded means.[[/note]] not cops.



** Averted for the most part by the cops and law enforcement types at the grunt level.
** The Watergate Burglars and their handlers were mostly CIA: technically dirty ''spies'',[[note]]Which is essentially what spies do, after all - look for material in someone's history that a ''normal'' person would try to see as private subject matter by generally devious and often underhanded means.[[/note]] not cops.
19th Apr '17 9:42:44 AM GrecoRomanGuy
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* DeadpanSnarker: Deep Throat has a few moments, mostly chiding either Woodward or the ''Nixon Adminstration itself.''
--> '''Deep Throat:''' Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.
--> '''Deep Throat:''' They bugged offices, they followed people, planted false press leaks, passed fake letters... they canceled Democratic campaign rallies, they investigated Democratic private lives, they planted spies, they stole documents... and now don't tell me that all of this was the work of one Donald Segretti.
--> '''Deep Throat:''' You've done worse than let Haldeman slip away: you've got people feeling sorry for him. I didn't think that was possible. [[note]] This is TruthInTelevision: H.R. Haldenman, the White House Chief of Staff, was a ''famously'' humorless man who boasted (and took pride in) the fact that he was "The President's Son of a bitch." If anyone wanted to get to Nixon, they had to go through Haldeman. His reputation as an unreasonable prick was so legendary that when Gerald R. Ford took office, he was determined not have a Haldeman type in his administration. [[/note]]



* DramaticallyMissingThePoint: When Woodward and Bernstein ask Sloan if they would be wrong to write a story naming Haldeman as the fifth man to control the secret fund, Sloan replies "Let me put it this way. I would have no problems if you wrote a story like that." Woodward and Bernstein take this to mean that Sloan named Haldeman to the grand jury, and say so in the story. They get a couple more dubious confirmations of this, and the paper publishes the story. The next day, the shit hits the fan: the TV news has Sloan telling the press that he never named Haldeman to the grand jury, and the White House Press Secretary is accusing the ''Post'' of being biased. It turns out that the reason Sloan would have had no problem with them saying that Haldeman was the fifth man to control the fund was not that Haldeman wasn't that man, but that the grand jusry never asked him about Haldeman at all.

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* DramaticallyMissingThePoint: When Woodward and Bernstein ask Sloan if they would be wrong to write a story naming Haldeman as the fifth man to control the secret fund, Sloan replies "Let me put it this way. I would have no problems if you wrote a story like that." Woodward and Bernstein take this to mean that Sloan named Haldeman to the grand jury, and say so in the story. They get a couple more dubious confirmations of this, and the paper publishes the story. The next day, the shit hits the fan: the TV news has Sloan telling the press that he never named Haldeman to the grand jury, and the White House Press Secretary is accusing the ''Post'' of being biased. It turns out that the reason Sloan would have had no problem with them saying that Haldeman was the fifth man to control the fund was not that Haldeman wasn't that man, but that the grand jusry jury never asked him about Haldeman at all. ''He'' wouldn't have a problem with the writing of that story as it was (because it was the truth!), but he never said anything about other people...


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* OhCrap: Woodward has a muted one in the midst of a phone interview with Kenneth Dahlberg, who was connected to a $25,000 check that was deposited into the account of one of the Watergate burglars. When Dahlberg says "I...really shouldn't tell you this," Woodward is more annoyed than anything else at the hemming and hawing of his interviewee. But when Dahlberg discloses that he gave the money to ''Maurice Stans'' [[note]] Stans was the Finance chair for the Committee to Re-Elect The President and was at one point in Nixon's presidential cabinet [[/note]], Woodward has a brief ThousandYardStare as he realizes that this is ''far'' more than a simple botched burglary: this is something that the ''White House'' might have been aware of.


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** Woodward's meetings with Deep Throat. They are shot in such {{Noir}} style that they seem to be little more than a lazy attempt by Hollywood to create a DeusExMachina for the Post reporters...except Bob Woodward ''really did'' meet with Deep Throat in those covert manners, and it ''really was'' only one man on the inside.
20th Mar '17 7:38:30 AM superluser
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Added DiffLines:

* WorstNewsJudgmentEver: At several points in the film, headlines for Woodward and Bernstein stories appear, usually overshadowed by other events in the news.
12th Jan '17 6:24:35 PM bt8257
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Woodward tries reaching Deep Throat early on, noting how Deep Throat had been a go-to source on Woodward's earlier stories into the attempted assassination of George Wallace. [[spoiler:It's an early clue that Deep Throat was FBI, since the FBI was in charge of that investigation and Woodward quoted FBI officials, including W. Mark Felt.]]



** Woodward tries reaching Deep Throat early on, noting how Deep Throat had been a go-to source on Woodward's earlier stories into the attempted assassination of George Wallace. [[spoiler:It's an early clue that Deep Throat was FBI, since the FBI was in charge of that investigation and Woodward quoted FBI officials, including W. Mark Felt.]]



* TheOner: A six-minute sequence in the hunt for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTTW9tDkfk Kenneth H. Dahlberg]], starting when Woodward gets back to his desk to use the phone. Redford actually flubs his line towards the end and calls Dahlberg by the wrong name but stays in character which makes the shot work anyway.

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* TheOner: A six-minute sequence in the hunt for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTTW9tDkfk com/watch?v=Qeemjaosp-E Kenneth H. Dahlberg]], starting when Woodward gets back to his desk to use the phone. Redford actually flubs his line towards the end and calls Dahlberg by the wrong name but stays in character which makes the shot work anyway.



* {{Scandalgate}}: ''Duh.''

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* {{Scandalgate}}: ''Duh.'''''''DUH.'''''



* StealthHiBye: Deep Throat does this to Woodward at their second meeting. Somewhat justified here as Deep Throat was paranoid about being followed, and there was a noise of a car starting up; Woodward turned to look at it, and when he turned back, Deep Throat was gone.

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* StealthHiBye: Deep Throat does this to Woodward at their second meeting. Somewhat justified {{justified|trope}} here as Deep Throat was paranoid about being followed, and there was a noise of a car starting up; Woodward turned to look at it, and when he turned back, Deep Throat was gone.
23rd Aug '16 8:17:31 AM 06tele
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* DatedHistory: W. Mark Felt revealed that he was Deep Throat in 2005.

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* DatedHistory: W. Mark Felt revealed in 2005 that he was Deep Throat in 2005.Throat.


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* DramaticallyMissingThePoint: When Woodward and Bernstein ask Sloan if they would be wrong to write a story naming Haldeman as the fifth man to control the secret fund, Sloan replies "Let me put it this way. I would have no problems if you wrote a story like that." Woodward and Bernstein take this to mean that Sloan named Haldeman to the grand jury, and say so in the story. They get a couple more dubious confirmations of this, and the paper publishes the story. The next day, the shit hits the fan: the TV news has Sloan telling the press that he never named Haldeman to the grand jury, and the White House Press Secretary is accusing the ''Post'' of being biased. It turns out that the reason Sloan would have had no problem with them saying that Haldeman was the fifth man to control the fund was not that Haldeman wasn't that man, but that the grand jusry never asked him about Haldeman at all.
4th Aug '16 4:48:33 AM bt8257
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* TheOner: A six-minute sequence in the hunt for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTTW9tDkfk Kenneth H. Dahlberg]], starting when Woodward gets back to his desk to use the phone. Redford actually flubs his line towards the end and calls Dahlberg by the wrong name but stays in character which makes the shot work anyway.

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* TheOner: A six-minute sequence in the hunt for [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTTW9tDkfk Kenneth H. Dahlberg]], starting when Woodward gets back to his desk to use the phone. Redford actually flubs his line towards the end and calls Dahlberg by the wrong name but stays in character which makes the shot work anyway.



--->'''John Mitchell:''' (''quoted as saying'') Katie Graham [the ''Post'' publisher] is [[TruthInTelevision gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer if that's published.]] (Yes, that ''is'' a real quotation.)

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--->'''John Mitchell:''' (''quoted as saying'') Katie Graham [the ''Post'' publisher] is [[TruthInTelevision gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer if that's published.]] (Yes, that ''is'' a real quotation.quote.)



* RealityIsUnrealistic: At one point Woodward is trying to interview a noticeably upset man (Kenneth H. Dahlberg, the top Republican fundraiser in Minnesota) over the phone about unusual campaign contributions. Without warning, Dahlberg says "I canít talk to you right now, my neighbor's wife has been kidnapped!" and hangs up. What looks like [[INeedToGoIronMyDog a weird excuse to avoid questioning]], however, wasn't: his neighbor's wife ''was'' kidnapped, and Dahlberg was overwhelmed with helping his neighbor out at the time. (This was the Virginia Piper case. She was fine - shaken up, but not hurt.) Dahlberg called back later and answered some of Woodward's questions.

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* RealityIsUnrealistic: At one point Woodward is trying to interview a noticeably upset man (Kenneth H. Dahlberg, the top Republican fundraiser in Minnesota) over the phone about unusual campaign contributions. Without warning, Dahlberg says "I canít talk to you right now, my neighbor's wife has been kidnapped!" and hangs up. What looks like [[INeedToGoIronMyDog a weird excuse to avoid questioning]], however, wasn't: his neighbor's wife ''was'' kidnapped, and Dahlberg was overwhelmed with helping his neighbor out at the time. (This was the Virginia Piper case. She was fine - shaken up, but not hurt.) Dahlberg called did indeed call back later and answered answer some of Woodward's questions.



* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Relating a conversation to managing editor Howard Simons, Woodward explains that some PR guy denied that E. Howard Hunt or Charles Colson knew, or was a part of, the Watergate break-in. He says that he expected such a statement to be made, but he ''never asked'' about Watergate. He just wanted to know what Hunt's duties at the White House were.

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* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Relating a conversation to managing editor Howard Simons, Woodward explains that some PR guy denied that E. Howard Hunt or Charles Colson knew, or was a part of, the Watergate break-in. He says that he expected such a statement to be made, but he ''never asked'' about Watergate. He just wanted to know what Hunt's duties at the White House were.[[note]]In the book, Ken Clawson is named as the person who told this to Woodward[[/note]]



* TheWatcher: Deep Throat. [[JustifiedTrope Understandable]], as Nixon was known to [[YouHaveFailedMe fire anyone who he even thought was against him]]; indeed, Woodward and Bernstein were so certain their contact would be killed they made it clear they would not reveal or confirm his identity until after he died or revealed it himself. (W. Mark Felt did the latter in 2005 at the age of 91.)

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* TheWatcher: Deep Throat. [[JustifiedTrope Understandable]], as Nixon was known to [[YouHaveFailedMe fire anyone who he even thought was against him]]; indeed, Woodward and Bernstein were so certain their contact would be killed killed, that they made it clear they would not reveal or confirm his identity until after he died or revealed it himself. (W. Mark Felt did the latter in 2005 at the age of 91.)
4th Aug '16 4:36:35 AM bt8257
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* AdaptationDyeJob: In real life, Bob Woodward's hair has always been brown, not blonde like Creator/RobertRedford's is.

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* AdaptationDyeJob: In real life, Bob Woodward's hair has always been brown, was brown at the time, not blonde like Creator/RobertRedford's is.Creator/RobertRedford.
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