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15th Jun '18 11:52:46 PM RoyFlowers
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** Burke condescendingly referring to Ripley as "kiddo" even as he explains that she's technically half a century older than him.
** When debriefing the Colonial Marines under his command to ensure they're prepared, Lieutenant Gorman confuses Hudson for Hicks and clearly does not command the soldiers' respect the way Sgt. Apone does. This, along with his obvious discomfort during the drop down to LV-426, establishes Gorman's inexperience.
** After it's established that Gorman is unsettled during the drop ship's rocky descent to the planet due to his lack of experience in actual combat missions, Hicks is shown sleeping right through the turbulence.
10th Jun '18 5:43:55 PM AmuckCricetine
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* UnbuiltTrope: This movie is credited with kick-starting the obsession with the gritty grizzled SpaceMarine that's permeated popular culture for decades afterwards, a group of hardened veteran soldiers ([[OneManArmy or a lone soldier]]) wielding advanced weaponry mowing down hordes of mooks/aliens/monsters, saving civilisation while [[BadassBoast boasting about how badass they are]] and spouting [[BondOneLiner one liners]] and [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] left and right, influencing everything from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' to ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' to ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' [[note]]The movie, not [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the much earlier book of the same name]], which included space marines but didn't have as much of an effect on popular culture[[/note]] to ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', and even [[Creator/JamesCameron the director]]'s later work ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', along with all of ''their'' [[FollowTheLeader successors]]. It's easy to forget then that the marines in ''Aliens'' are portrayed as arrogant trigger-happy jarheads who despite their overwhelming confidence had never faced anything even remotely like the xenomorphs, and suffered for it. They collapsed into panic and disarray the moment they made actual contact, got slaughtered because they had no idea what they were up against, their incompetence resulted in the entire facility being blown to pieces by ''accident'', and the only marine who survived the ordeal was the one who instantly and without question followed the orders of a ''civilian''. Said civilian was not only the main character but a ''woman'' (something rare even today), and the final confrontation is between two {{Mama Bear}}s, completely counter to the hypermasculine narratives that permeate later imitators.

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* UnbuiltTrope: This movie UnbuiltTrope:
** The film
is credited with kick-starting the obsession with the gritty gritty, grizzled SpaceMarine trope that's permeated science fiction and popular culture for decades afterwards, a group of hardened veteran soldiers ([[OneManArmy or a lone soldier]]) wielding advanced weaponry mowing down hordes of mooks/aliens/monsters, saving civilisation while [[BadassBoast boasting about how badass they are]] and spouting [[BondOneLiner one liners]] and [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] left and right, influencing everything from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' to ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' to ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' [[note]]The movie, not [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the much earlier book of the same name]], which included space marines but didn't have as much of an effect on popular culture[[/note]] to ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', and even [[Creator/JamesCameron the director]]'s later work ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', along with all of ''their'' [[FollowTheLeader successors]]. afterwards. It's easy to forget then that the marines Colonial Marines in ''Aliens'' Aliens are portrayed as arrogant arrogant, trigger-happy jarheads who who, despite their overwhelming confidence confidence, had never faced anything even remotely like the xenomorphs, and suffered for it. They collapsed into panic and disarray the moment they made actual contact, got slaughtered because they had no idea what they were up against, their incompetence resulted in the entire facility being blown to pieces by ''accident'', and It's not a display of badassery so much as it is a sci-fi version of 'Nam. Furthermore, the only marine who survived the ordeal was the one who instantly and without question followed the orders of Ellen Ripley, who is not only a ''civilian''. Said civilian was not only but also a woman and the main character but a ''woman'' (something character, something rare even today), and today in similar genres. The only other survivor is Bishop, who's probably one of the [[NiceGuy nicest people]] in the entire series. The final confrontation is between two {{Mama Bear}}s, Ripley and the alien queen, completely counter to the hypermasculine hyper-masculine narratives permeating the versions that permeate later imitators.followed.
** The film also subverted the PunchClockHero trope long before it became commonplace in television and film. When Ripley is court-martialed and drummed out for destroying the Nostromo in the previous film, she simply picks up work at Gateway Station's docks and doesn't make any waves for a fair stretch of time. Even when Burke and Gorman come to recruit her for the mission, she refuses on the grounds that it's not in her job description and the mission sounds uneventful. It takes another bad dream to convince her to go, and even then, she acts largely as a civilian advisor (who doesn't like the soldiers she's traveling with) until two-thirds of the way through the film.
** While a handful of films released around this time were beginning to embrace the KidSidekick and TagalongKid tropes (most notably ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' two years earlier), Aliens was actively subverting it via the Newt character. While most kid characters simply existed to be rescued or provide witty comebacks, Newt is the only one of the group who fully understands the danger on LV-426. She listens to commands and follows them, has a wry sense of humor at times, and at one point, Ripley and the others defer to her judgement (in the maintenance ducts after fleeing from the attack on Medical). All this for a kid who's no more than ten years old.
** This film codified VasquezAlwaysDies where the tougher less-feminine warrior is killed off in contrast to a more feminine survivor. But here Ripley isn't exactly there to provide glamorous {{Fanservice}} or serve as the love interest; she's only more feminine in the fact that she's a civilian. What's more is that there are two other female Marines who also die; Vasquez just happens to have more screen time and development. Not to mention that Vasquez is one of the ''last'' characters in the movie to die, and in contrast to the [[DroppedABridgeOnHim anticlimactic end]] that the trope frequently implies, she gets a badass last stand alongside Gorman.
10th Jun '18 5:41:39 PM AmuckCricetine
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* SpiritualSuccessor: To, of all things, ''Film/RamboFirstBloodPartII''. Both [[ActionizedSequel Actionized Sequels]] feature a jaded, castigated survivor of a grueling ordeal being called back into action on a rescue mission which goes awry and turns into a hellish mediation on the Vietnam War and its chaotic confusion. Also, both were written by Creator/JamesCameron. Interestingly, Cameron said he didn't write the "politics" of ''Rambo'', just the plot and action.
6th Jun '18 6:31:00 AM x_countryguy
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->'''Ripley:''' Just tell me one thing, Burke. You're going out there to destroy them, right? Not to study. Not to bring back. But to wipe them out.
->'''Burke:''' That's the plan. You have my word on it.
->'''Ripley:''' All right, I'm in.

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->'''Ripley:''' Just tell me one thing, Burke. You're going out there to destroy them, right? Not to study. Not to bring back. But to wipe them out.
->'''Burke:'''
out.\\
'''Burke:'''
That's the plan. You have my word on it.
->'''Ripley:'''
it.\\
'''Ripley:'''
All right, I'm in.



-->'''Hudson''': Hey, Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?\\
'''Vasquez''': No. Have you?

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-->'''Hudson''': --->'''Hudson:''' Hey, Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?\\
'''Vasquez''': '''Vasquez:''' No. Have you?



* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: Nobody cried when a xenomorph mauled Burke.]]

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: Nobody [[spoiler:Nobody cried when a xenomorph mauled Burke.]]



** Ripley, after [[spoiler: Newt gets taken in the sewers]].

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** Ripley, after [[spoiler: Newt [[spoiler:Newt gets taken in the sewers]].



** A very literal one in [[spoiler: Hick's shotgun. He likes to keep it for "close encounters."]]

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** A very literal one in [[spoiler: Hick's [[spoiler:Hick's shotgun. He likes to keep it for "close encounters."]]



* CreepyGood: [[spoiler:Bishop]] is one of the most iconic examples of this in film, as he's very [[CreepyMonotone unemotional]], creeps Ripley out and gets several shots of him [[TraitorShot staring intently]] at the facehuggers in a jar, but he actually turns out to be one of the most valuable allies on the team. It's [[spoiler: ''[[CorruptCorporateExecuctive Burke]]'']] who's the real traitor.

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* CreepyGood: [[spoiler:Bishop]] is one of the most iconic examples of this in film, as he's very [[CreepyMonotone unemotional]], creeps Ripley out and gets several shots of him [[TraitorShot staring intently]] at the facehuggers in a jar, but he actually turns out to be one of the most valuable allies on the team. It's [[spoiler: ''[[CorruptCorporateExecuctive [[spoiler:''[[CorruptCorporateExecuctive Burke]]'']] who's the real traitor.



** Vasquez's plan to [[spoiler: take "Seven cannisters of CN20 and nerve gas the whole fuckin' nest" is really stupid in hindsight. Wouldn't the nerve gas ''also'' affect the people you are trying to save?]]

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** Vasquez's plan to [[spoiler: take [[spoiler:take "Seven cannisters of CN20 and nerve gas the whole fuckin' nest" is really stupid in hindsight. Wouldn't the nerve gas ''also'' affect the people you are trying to save?]]



** [[spoiler: Dietrich: Grabbed by an xenomorph from behind.]]
** [[spoiler: Frost: Set on fire when Dietrich is grabbed, which causes her to trigger her flamethrower, and falls to his death.]]
** [[spoiler: Crowe: Blown into a wall when the ammunition bag Frost was carrying and set on fire by Dietrich explodes, breaking his neck.]]
** [[spoiler: Wierzbowski: Killed offscreen by an xenomorph.]]
** [[spoiler: Apone: Grabbed by a xenomorph during the initial exchange.]]
** [[spoiler: Drake: Covered in acidic xenomorph blood when Vasquez shoots an alien next to him.]]
** [[spoiler: Ferro and Spunkmeyer: Killed by a xenomorph on the dropship, it's unclear who was killed first.]]
** [[spoiler: Hudson: Pulled through the floor by a xenomorph.]]
** [[spoiler: Vasquez and Gorman: Blow themselves up in the air shafts when trapped by the xenomorphs, cutting off the xenomorphs from the rest of the survivors.]]

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** [[spoiler: Dietrich: [[spoiler:Dietrich: Grabbed by an xenomorph from behind.]]
** [[spoiler: Frost: [[spoiler:Frost: Set on fire when Dietrich is grabbed, which causes her to trigger her flamethrower, and falls to his death.]]
** [[spoiler: Crowe: [[spoiler:Crowe: Blown into a wall when the ammunition bag Frost was carrying and set on fire by Dietrich explodes, breaking his neck.]]
** [[spoiler: Wierzbowski: [[spoiler:Wierzbowski: Killed offscreen by an xenomorph.]]
** [[spoiler: Apone: [[spoiler:Apone: Grabbed by a xenomorph during the initial exchange.]]
** [[spoiler: Drake: [[spoiler:Drake: Covered in acidic xenomorph blood when Vasquez shoots an alien next to him.]]
** [[spoiler: Ferro [[spoiler:Ferro and Spunkmeyer: Killed by a xenomorph on the dropship, it's unclear who was killed first.]]
** [[spoiler: Hudson: [[spoiler:Hudson: Pulled through the floor by a xenomorph.]]
** [[spoiler: Vasquez [[spoiler:Vasquez and Gorman: Blow themselves up in the air shafts when trapped by the xenomorphs, cutting off the xenomorphs from the rest of the survivors.]]



-->'''Ripley''': How many drops is this for you, Lieutenant?\\
'''Gorman''': Thirty eight...simulated.\\
'''Vasquez''': How many ''combat'' drops?\\
'''Gorman''': Uh, two. Including this one.

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-->'''Ripley''': -->'''Ripley:''' How many drops is this for you, Lieutenant?\\
'''Gorman''': '''Gorman:''' Thirty eight...eight... simulated.\\
'''Vasquez''': '''Vasquez:''' How many ''combat'' drops?\\
'''Gorman''': '''Gorman:''' Uh, two. Including this one.



--> '''Frost''': I sure wouldn't mind getting more of that Arcturian poontang. Remember that time?\\
'''Spunkmeyer''': Yeah, but the one ''you'' had was a male.\\
'''Frost''': It doesn't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!

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--> '''Frost''': -->'''Frost:''' I sure wouldn't mind getting more of that Arcturian poontang. Remember that time?\\
'''Spunkmeyer''': '''Spunkmeyer:''' Yeah, but the one ''you'' had was a male.\\
'''Frost''': '''Frost:''' It doesn't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!



** Happens again in the climax when the survivors find out too late that [[spoiler: they neglected to secure the space above the false ceilings, giving the xenomorphs a way in.]]

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** Happens again in the climax when the survivors find out too late that [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they neglected to secure the space above the false ceilings, giving the xenomorphs a way in.]]



* FinalGirl: Actually subverted, which could be expected with the genre shift. [[spoiler: Ripley makes it, of course, but Newt, Hicks, and Bishop also manage to make it to the end alive. In fact, Ripley actually seems somewhat relieved she isn't the only one to survive like last time.]]

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* FinalGirl: Actually subverted, which could be expected with the genre shift. [[spoiler: Ripley [[spoiler:Ripley makes it, of course, but Newt, Hicks, and Bishop also manage to make it to the end alive. In fact, Ripley actually seems somewhat relieved she isn't the only one to survive like last time.]]



-->'''Hudson:''' She's badass, man, I mean big.

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-->'''Hudson:''' --->'''Hudson:''' She's badass, man, I mean big.



-->'''Ripley:''' Newt, these people are soldiers. They're here to protect you.
-->'''Newt''': It won't make any difference.

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-->'''Ripley:''' --->'''Ripley:''' Newt, these people are soldiers. They're here to protect you.
-->'''Newt''':
you.\\
'''Newt:'''
It won't make any difference.



* GutFeeling: Ripley feels there is something off about Bishop due to her prior experience with Ash in the first film. [[spoiler: She's wrong.]]

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* GutFeeling: Ripley feels there is something off about Bishop due to her prior experience with Ash in the first film. [[spoiler: She's [[spoiler:She's wrong.]]



* HateSink: [[spoiler: Carter Burke]], a man so bad that the actor's own ''mother'' said she was glad he died.

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* HateSink: [[spoiler: Carter [[spoiler:Carter Burke]], a man so bad that the actor's own ''mother'' said she was glad he died.



* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: [[spoiler:Bishop at the end.]] He gets impaled from behind by [[spoiler: the Alien Queen]] who hid on the dropship.

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* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: [[spoiler:Bishop at the end.]] He gets impaled from behind by [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Alien Queen]] who hid on the dropship.



-->'''Hudson''': Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man?\\
'''Vasquez''': No, have you?

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-->'''Hudson''': -->'''Hudson:''' Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man?\\
'''Vasquez''': '''Vasquez:''' No, have you?



* ItHasBeenAnHonor: Vasquez gives Gorman the "power grip", her ritual for greeting and departure she only shared with the chosen few like Drake, [[spoiler: before they detonate a grenade to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled avert being captured/killed]] by swarms of xenomorphs.]]

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* ItHasBeenAnHonor: Vasquez gives Gorman the "power grip", her ritual for greeting and departure she only shared with the chosen few like Drake, [[spoiler: before [[spoiler:before they detonate a grenade to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled avert being captured/killed]] by swarms of xenomorphs.]]



-->'''Ripley:''' See you, Hicks.
-->'''Hicks:''' Dwayne. It's Dwayne.
-->'''Ripley:''' [beat] Ellen.
-->'''Hicks:''' Don't be gone long, Ellen.

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-->'''Ripley:''' See you, Hicks.
-->'''Hicks:'''
Hicks.\\
'''Hicks:'''
Dwayne. It's Dwayne.
-->'''Ripley:''' [beat] Ellen.
-->'''Hicks:'''
Dwayne.\\
'''Ripley:''' ''[beat]'' Ellen.\\
'''Hicks:'''
Don't be gone long, Ellen.



--> '''Apone''': Sir, this place is dead. Whatever happened here, I think we missed it.

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--> '''Apone''': -->'''Apone:''' Sir, this place is dead. Whatever happened here, I think we missed it.



--> '''Ripley''': Get away from her, you ''bitch!''

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--> '''Ripley''': -->'''Ripley:''' Get away from her, you ''bitch!''



* MeaningfulEcho: Newt mimics the Marines saying "affirmative" a few times. In the end [[spoiler: as Ripley is about to put her into the hypersleep specifically saying "sweet dreams" Newt responds "affirmative."]]

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* MeaningfulEcho: Newt mimics the Marines saying "affirmative" a few times. In the end [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as Ripley is about to put her into the hypersleep specifically saying "sweet dreams" Newt responds "affirmative."]]



* MenAreTheExpendableGender: Averted. Two females and two males survive the expedition (that is, if you count [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Bishop]] as male.) The marine party has at least three women, and all of them die, in addition to the colonist woman we see get chestbursted. The only non-civilian to survive is Hicks ( a man.)
* MercyKill: Ripley [[spoiler: comes across a cocooned Burke in the atmosphere processor begging for help. She gives him a grenade, though he whines as he obviously knows what this means for him. Though considering the fate of the other 157 colonists he damned (not including Newt), he got off easy.]]

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* MenAreTheExpendableGender: Averted. Two females and two males survive the expedition (that is, if you count [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Bishop]] as male.) The marine party has at least three women, and all of them die, in addition to the colonist woman we see get chestbursted. The only non-civilian to survive is Hicks ( a (a man.)
* MercyKill: Ripley [[spoiler: comes [[spoiler:comes across a cocooned Burke in the atmosphere processor begging for help. She gives him a grenade, though he whines as he obviously knows what this means for him. Though considering the fate of the other 157 colonists he damned (not including Newt), he got off easy.]]



-->'''Newt''': We'd better get back cos it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night. Mostly.

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-->'''Newt''': -->'''Newt:''' We'd better get back cos it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night. Mostly.



* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Carrie Henn was living in the UK at the time of filming (one of her parents was British, the other American), and apparently picked up some of the accent. Near the end when the protagonists are escaping through the airducts, she suddenly slips into an English accent on this line:
-->'''Newt:''' Up there! There's a shortcut across the roof!

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* OohMeAccentsSlipping: OohMeAccentsSlipping:
**
Carrie Henn was living in the UK at the time of filming (one of her parents was British, the other American), and apparently picked up some of the accent. Near the end when the protagonists are escaping through the airducts, she suddenly slips into an English accent on this line:
-->'''Newt:''' --->'''Newt:''' Up there! There's a shortcut across the roof!



* PoweredArmor: The Power Loader Ripley uses is an interesting example of one ''without'' the "armor" part of the trope, being mostly an open frame used for loading cargo like a wearable forklift. [[AllThereInTheManual Outside film material]] implies that Colonial Marines sometimes used an actual armed and armored version of the same technology for special situations, though the marines in the film do not seem to have one in their armory.

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* PoweredArmor: PoweredArmor:
**
The Power Loader Ripley uses is an interesting example of one ''without'' the "armor" part of the trope, being mostly an open frame used for loading cargo like a wearable forklift. [[AllThereInTheManual Outside film material]] implies that Colonial Marines sometimes used an actual armed and armored version of the same technology for special situations, though the marines in the film do not seem to have one in their armory.



* PracticalEffects: The power loader, the Alien Queen (and her giant egg sac), the chestbursters, [[spoiler: Bishop's severed torso]], all done without the aid of CGI. And it is ''glorious''. It really is. The special effects in this movie stand up with the best CGI of today. It's rather amazing how well it's aged.

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* PracticalEffects: The power loader, the Alien Queen (and her giant egg sac), the chestbursters, [[spoiler: Bishop's [[spoiler:Bishop's severed torso]], all done without the aid of CGI. And it is ''glorious''. It really is. The special effects in this movie stand up with the best CGI of today. It's rather amazing how well it's aged.



* {{Retirony}}: When the survivors are trapped on the planet's surface with little hope of rescue, Hudson wails that he has "four more weeks and out, now I'm gonna buy it on this rock". [[spoiler: He's right]].

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* {{Retirony}}: When the survivors are trapped on the planet's surface with little hope of rescue, Hudson wails that he has "four more weeks and out, now I'm gonna buy it on this rock". [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's right]].



* StormingTheCastle: Ripley [[LockAndLoadMontage loading up]] for a one-man raid on the Xenomorphs' hive to [[spoiler: rescue Newt.]]

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* StormingTheCastle: Ripley [[LockAndLoadMontage loading up]] for a one-man raid on the Xenomorphs' hive to [[spoiler: rescue [[spoiler:rescue Newt.]]



--> "Did [=IQ=]s just drop sharply while I was away?"

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--> "Did -->'''Ripley:''' Did [=IQ=]s just drop sharply while I was away?"away?



-->'''Ripley''': Bad call? These people are DEAD Burke!
* UnstoppableRage: After Ripley burns the Queen's eggs, she breaks off of her ovipositor and goes after Ripley [[ItsPersonal personally.]]

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-->'''Ripley''': -->'''Ripley:''' Bad call? These people are DEAD Burke!
* UnstoppableRage: UnstoppableRage:
**
After Ripley burns the Queen's eggs, she breaks off of her ovipositor and goes after Ripley [[ItsPersonal personally.]]



-->'''Bishop:''' Not bad for a human.

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-->'''Bishop:''' --->'''Bishop:''' Not bad for a human.



-->'''Ripley:''' ''(to Burke)'' Happy to disappoint you.

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-->'''Ripley:''' ''(to Burke)'' ''[to Burke]'' Happy to disappoint you.



->'''Newt:''' Are we gonna sleep all the way home?
->'''Ripley:''' All the way home.
->'''Newt:''' Can I dream?
->'''Ripley:''' Yes, honey. I think we both can.
->[tucks Newt in]
->'''Ripley:''' Sleep tight.
->'''Newt:''' Aye-ffirmative.

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->'''Newt:''' Are we gonna sleep all the way home?
->'''Ripley:'''
home?\\
'''Ripley:'''
All the way home.
->'''Newt:'''
home.\\
'''Newt:'''
Can I dream?
->'''Ripley:'''
dream?\\
'''Ripley:'''
Yes, honey. I think we both can.
->[tucks
can.\\
''[tucks
Newt in]
->'''Ripley:'''
in]''\\
'''Ripley:'''
Sleep tight.
->'''Newt:'''
tight.\\
'''Newt:'''
Aye-ffirmative.
5th Jun '18 9:56:55 PM MacronNotes
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* JerkassFacade: What Hudson acts like before he breaks down.
25th May '18 10:00:25 PM tahna_los
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** Not to mention part of the fate of the captured colonists in the reactor.
25th May '18 9:58:54 PM tahna_los
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* ChekhovsArmory: A Literal One in the hangar of the Sulaco.
** Sergeant Apone orders the floor-mounted airlock sealed near the beginning of the mission. Near the end Ripley uses it to [[spoiler:dispose of the alien queen]].
** In that same scene you briefly get a look at the second dropship.
** Not to mention the Powerloaders used to load said dropships.



** Sergeant Apone also orders the floor-mounted airlock sealed near the beginning of the mission. Near the end Ripley uses it to [[spoiler:dispose of the alien queen]].
** In that same scene you briefly get a look at the second dropship.
20th May '18 4:08:46 PM Deadlock
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** Played straight by the xenomorphs themselves. There were 157 colonists. At least one died before being cocooned (the one they tried to get a facehugger off of), one wasn't caught at all (Newt), and one didn't produce a chestburster until the marines were watching. That makes 154 xenomorphs at absolute maximum, including the queen-- and that's assuming every other colonist was cocooned without killing a single xenomorph. How many got killed by the marines? Plenty, in fights we see. The sentry guns alone must have plowed down dozens if not more. But they never stop coming. It is later averted when you realize during the penultimate showdown that there was only token resistance when Ripley entered the hive to save Newt as most of them had been already been killed, no more than 7 xenomorphs not including the Queen try to attack Ripley during the rescue.

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** Played straight by the xenomorphs themselves. There were 157 colonists. At least one died before being cocooned (the one they tried to get a facehugger off of), one wasn't caught at all (Newt), and one didn't produce a chestburster until the marines were watching. That makes 154 xenomorphs at absolute maximum, including the queen-- and that's assuming every other colonist was cocooned without killing a single xenomorph. [[note]]The huge acid-melted hole through several floors of the colony implies ''someone'' bagged one of Ripley's bad guys.[[/note]] How many got killed by the marines? Plenty, in fights we see. The sentry guns alone must have plowed down dozens if not more. But they never stop coming. It is later averted when you realize during the penultimate showdown that there was only token resistance when Ripley entered the hive to save Newt as most of them had been already been killed, no more than 7 xenomorphs not including the Queen try to attack Ripley during the rescue.
27th Apr '18 11:03:45 AM dieseldragons
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* AnthropicPrinciple: Had the atmosphere processor [[ChekhovsVolcano not started to overload]], necessitating the survivors [[HalfwayPlotSwitch instead escape LV-426]] [[OutrunTheFireball within several hours]], they would have tried to wait ''[[WeJustNeedToWaitForRescue two weeks for a rescue]]'', consequently getting wiped out by the now-enraged hive ([[JerkassHasAPoint an irate Hudson pointed this much out to Ripley]]).

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* AnthropicPrinciple: Had the atmosphere processor [[ChekhovsVolcano not started to overload]], necessitating the survivors [[HalfwayPlotSwitch instead escape LV-426]] [[OutrunTheFireball within several hours]], they would have tried to wait ''[[WeJustNeedToWaitForRescue two weeks 17 days for a rescue]]'', consequently getting wiped out by the now-enraged hive ([[JerkassHasAPoint an (an irate Hudson pointed this much out to Ripley]]).Ripley [[JerkassHasAPoint they would never survive that long]]).
24th Apr '18 4:32:29 PM dieseldragons
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* AnthropicPrinciple: Had the atmosphere processor [[ChekhovsVolcano not started to overload]], necessitating the survivors [[HalfwayPlotSwitch instead escape LV-426]][[OutrunTheFireball within several hours]], they would have tried to wait ''[[WeJustNeedToWaitForRescue two weeks for a rescue]]'', consequently getting wiped out by the now-enraged hive ([[JerkassHasAPoint an irate Hudson pointed this much out to Ripley]]).

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* AnthropicPrinciple: Had the atmosphere processor [[ChekhovsVolcano not started to overload]], necessitating the survivors [[HalfwayPlotSwitch instead escape LV-426]][[OutrunTheFireball LV-426]] [[OutrunTheFireball within several hours]], they would have tried to wait ''[[WeJustNeedToWaitForRescue two weeks for a rescue]]'', consequently getting wiped out by the now-enraged hive ([[JerkassHasAPoint an irate Hudson pointed this much out to Ripley]]).
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