History Film / Aliens

11th Nov '17 6:17:07 PM hullflyer
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* IdiotBall: The meltdown can be traced to the stupidity of both Gorman and the Marines who disobeyed him. The latter, obviously, disobeyed orders and caused the meltdown. Gormon, however, gives no reason as to why he doesn't want them shooting, even though "you'll blow up the reactor" is not exactly a complicated reason.

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* IdiotBall: The meltdown can be traced to the stupidity of both Gorman and the Marines who disobeyed him. The latter, obviously, disobeyed orders and caused the meltdown. meltdown (though they were certainly justified, as at that point it was either disobey or ''die''). Gormon, however, gives no reason as to why he doesn't want them shooting, even though "you'll blow up the reactor" is not exactly a complicated reason.reason - and even if they did shoot, they would at least be thinking "Gotta be careful, or we all go up in a cloud of vapor".
11th Nov '17 6:04:04 PM hullflyer
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** He also, during a freakout, says they won't last 17 hours. Even with their precautions, the xenomorphs breach their defenses in less than that. Had they not figured out that they had limited time to escape before the processor exploded, it's doubtful anyone would have gotten away.

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** He also, during a freakout, says they won't last 17 hours. Even with their precautions, the xenomorphs breach their defenses in less than that. Had they not figured out that they had limited time to escape before the processor exploded, and thus conceived and executed another plan, it's doubtful anyone would have gotten away.
5th Nov '17 9:22:36 PM DragonQuestZ
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* KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter: The [=M41A=] Pulse Rifle says hello. Ditto the [[BigFancyGun M56 Smart Gun]] wielded by Vasquez and Drake. Hudson talks about particle weapons in his BadassBoast, but no one gets to use them in the movie.
** IIRC this was the first movie to not use personal-scale energy weapons in a future setting.
** Depending on how one regards the continuity, possibly because the energy weapons in Prometheus were basically useless.



* ThisIsForEmphasisBitch: "Get away from her, you ''BITCH!''"
10th Oct '17 11:15:11 AM JohnnyChimpo
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** This troper got the impression that it was more a case of Bishop understanding the futility of carrying a single handgun against the possibility of a xenomorph attack.
9th Oct '17 12:33:22 AM Arivne
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** Vasquez's plan to [[spoiler: take "3 cannisters of CN20 and gas the whole fuckin' nest" is really stupid in hindsight. Wouldn't the nerve gas ''also'' affect the people you are trying to save?]]

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** Vasquez's plan to [[spoiler: take "3 "Seven cannisters of CN20 and nerve gas the whole fuckin' nest" is really stupid in hindsight. Wouldn't the nerve gas ''also'' affect the people you are trying to save?]]
12th Sep '17 11:11:54 AM TrollBrutal
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* ContrivedCoincidence: The LV-426 colony goes off-line just a year after Ripley is brought back. [[spoiler:Turns out that's not a coincidence at all, as Burke ordered them to investigate the Derelict based on Ripley's debriefing]]. It's also lampshaded in a deleted scene with operations manager Al Simpson and Lydecker. The company often tells them to look at random grid references, so they look. It's gotten to the point [[PoorCommunicationKills where the colonists don't ask why any more]] since the answer takes two weeks to reach them, and it's always "[[DontAsk Don't ask]]". The company have been trying to locate the Derelict ever since the ''Nostromo'' was destroyed.
12th Sep '17 10:52:12 AM TrollBrutal
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* CyberpunkWithAChanceOfRain: The climate on LV-426 is barely hospitable, thanks to the atmosphere processor. It's [[AlwaysNight always dark]] and rainy.

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* CyberpunkWithAChanceOfRain: The climate on LV-426 is barely hospitable, thanks to the atmosphere processor. It's [[AlwaysNight always dark]] and rainy. The oppressive, fastidious effects don't stop even indoors, thanks to leaky ceilings and a subterraneous waterway.
12th Sep '17 6:03:59 AM TrollBrutal
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** The first confrontation with the Aliens goes horribly awry for the Colonial Marines as their years of combat experience in fighting a conventional enemy (human rebels) proves to be useless against a completely unfamiliar creature that is tailored by evolution to stealthy movement and surprise attacks.
*** Though with dialogue such as "another bug hunt" and other indicators (see BadassBoast above), seem to point to the SpaceMarines being experienced with fighting non-human combatants. The problem is that the xenomorph is an organism designed to kill/immobilize it's prey with rapid and brutal efficiency. Definitely not helped by the xenomorphs having the numerical and territorial advantage.

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** The first confrontation with the Aliens goes horribly awry for the Colonial Marines as their years of combat experience in fighting a conventional enemy (human rebels) proves to be they prove rather useless against a completely unfamiliar creature that is tailored by evolution to stealthy movement and surprise attacks.
*** Though with dialogue such as "another bug hunt" and other indicators (see BadassBoast above), seem to point to the SpaceMarines being experienced with fighting non-human combatants. The problem is that the xenomorph is an organism designed to kill/immobilize it's prey with rapid and brutal efficiency. Definitely not helped by the xenomorphs having the numerical and territorial advantage.
attacks.
12th Sep '17 12:50:02 AM TrollBrutal
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** Hicks remarks that Lieutenant Gorman is 'too good to eat with the rest of us grunts' as a means of establishing Gorman is out of touch with and stands apart from his men. Forgetting for a minute referring to his CO as a 'grunt' is bizarre, officers don't mess with enlisted men. At least, Gorman is not doing anything an actual marine would consider out of the ordinary.

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** Hicks remarks that Lieutenant Gorman is 'too good to eat with the rest of us grunts' as a means of establishing Gorman is out of touch with and stands apart from his men. Forgetting for a minute referring to his CO as a 'grunt' is bizarre, officers Officers don't mess with enlisted men. At least, Gorman is not doing anything an actual marine would consider out of the ordinary.
11th Sep '17 11:10:25 PM Boggs
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** Hicks remarks that Lieutenant Gorman is 'too good to eat with the rest of us grunts' as a means of establishing Gorman is out of touch with and stands apart from his men. Forgetting for a minute referring to his CO as a 'grunt' is bizarre, officers don't mess with enlisted men. At least, Gorman is not doing anything an actual marine would consider out of ordinary.

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** Hicks remarks that Lieutenant Gorman is 'too good to eat with the rest of us grunts' as a means of establishing Gorman is out of touch with and stands apart from his men. Forgetting for a minute referring to his CO as a 'grunt' is bizarre, officers don't mess with enlisted men. At least, Gorman is not doing anything an actual marine would consider out of the ordinary.
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