History Film / AdamsApples

31st Aug '16 3:25:03 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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It tells the story of the Neo-Nazi criminal, Adam (Thomsen), freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish (Mikkelsen), joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].

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It tells the story of the Neo-Nazi criminal, Adam (Thomsen), freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of Ivan (Mikkelsen), a pastor in a small village parish (Mikkelsen), parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].
31st Aug '16 3:23:46 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} with Creator/MadsMikkelsen.

It tells the story of a Neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].

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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} from 2005 with Creator/MadsMikkelsen.

Creator/MadsMikkelsen and Creator/UlrichThomsen.

It tells the story of a the Neo-Nazi criminal criminal, Adam (Thomsen), freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, parish (Mikkelsen), joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].
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3rd Aug '16 1:41:45 PM fgenzo159
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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} telling the story of a Neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].

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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} telling with Creator/MadsMikkelsen.

It tells
the story of a Neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].



* WideEyedIdealist: Ivan, in Adam's eyes. He resolutely refuses to see bad in anyone or anything, to the point of completely denying it.

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* WideEyedIdealist: Ivan, in Adam's eyes. He resolutely refuses to see bad in anyone or anything, to the point of completely denying it.
4th Feb '16 11:50:41 AM Angeldeb82
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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} telling the story of a Neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong [[AnAesop Aesopian]] element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].

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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} telling the story of a Neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong [[AnAesop Aesopian]] {{A|nAesop}}esopian element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].



* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Eventually it happens to Ivan after a BreakingSpeech by Adam]].

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* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Eventually it happens to Ivan after a BreakingSpeech Adam [[BreakThemByTalking Breaks Him by Adam]].Talking]].]]



* MessianicArchetype: Ivan, a special case of [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory Everyone Being Jesus In Purgatory]] (even though he is more strongly suggested to be a Job).

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* MessianicArchetype: Ivan, a special case of [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory Everyone Being Jesus In in Purgatory]] (even though he is more strongly suggested to be a Job).
30th Dec '15 12:12:03 PM Fireblood
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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} telling the story of a neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief of the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger is the tension between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong [[AnAesop Aesopian]] element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].

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A dense Danish {{Dramedy}} telling the story of a neo-Nazi Neo-Nazi criminal freshly released from prison, who is ordered to do some community service under the supervision of a pastor in a small village parish, joins the community of social outcasts sharing the same fate, and chooses as his goal making an apple pie out of the apples growing in the parish's orchard. The main source of drama in the movie comes from the exploration of the differences between the characters and beliefs of both men, one of whom, in spite of his unusually thorny life, has an unshaken belief of in the ultimate goodness of God and his creation, while the second believes only in physical strength and determination. They do not discuss much, but the more they come to know each other the stronger is the tension is between them, which results in an unexpected ending with a strong [[AnAesop Aesopian]] element which [[GainaxEnding leaves more questions than it solves]].



%%* BaldOfEvil: Adam, in the beginning.

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%%* * BaldOfEvil: Adam, a Neo-Nazi skinhead, has this in the beginning.



%%* BornUnlucky: Ivan.

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%%* * BornUnlucky: Ivan.Ivan, whose life seems to be a long streak of bad luck.



%%* ButtMonkey: Ivan.
%%* CosmicPlaything

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%%* * ButtMonkey: Ivan.
%%* CosmicPlaything
Ivan, whom God or the universe appears to like screwing with. In spite of this, his optimism and belief in God's goodness (along with everything else) doesn't waver until very late.
* CosmicPlaything: Ivan appears to be this given the difficulties which have afflicted him.



%%* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Eventually happens to Ivan]].

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%%* * DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Eventually it happens to Ivan]].Ivan after a BreakingSpeech by Adam]].



* DeusExMachina: The ending. Alternatively, and this is what Adam is suggested to think, [[spoiler:the actual Deus was involved]].

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* DeusExMachina: The ending. Alternatively, and this is what Adam is it's suggested to think, Adam believes, [[spoiler:the actual real Deus was involved]].



%%* DrivenToSuicide: Ivan's wife.
%%* EvilCannotComprehendGood

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%%* * DrivenToSuicide: Ivan's wife.
%%* EvilCannotComprehendGood
wife, in despair over their son's severe disability. Ivan is in complete denial over it.
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Adam finds Ivan's beliefs utterly unfathomable when he starts out, before slowly converting to them.



%%* GodIsEvil: Adam's initial version.
%%* GodIsGood: Ivan's initial belief.
%%* GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion: Sarah.
%%* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Adam]].
%%* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace

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%%* * GodIsEvil: Adam's initial version.
%%*
belief, which he tries to convince Ivan of given all that he's suffered.
*
GodIsGood: Ivan's initial belief.
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belief, in spite of all he's suffered. Finally it slips due to Adam's breaking him, but he regains it by the end.
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GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion: Sarah.
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Sarah, who contemplates having an abortion due to being both a single mother and over the possibility that the baby would have Down Syndrome (given that she's forty). Ivan persuades her to keep it, (falsely) citing his own son who he says was supposed to be born disabled but isn't (he actually is). She goes on to have a son with Down Syndrome, but by then she doesn't seem to care.
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HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Adam]].
%%* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace
[[spoiler:Adam]], who goes from a Neo-Nazi thug into becoming Ivan's assistant in helping reform other people.
* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace: One of the Neo-Nazis accidentally shoots Ivan when he attempts to disarm him.



%%* TheLostLenore: Ivan's wife.

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%%* * TheLostLenore: Ivan's wife.wife, who killed herself before the events of the film.



%%* {{Minimalism}}

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%%* {{Minimalism}}* {{Minimalism}}: The film takes place wholly in a small Danish community with only a bare handful of main characters.



%%* ParentalObliviousness: Taken to extremes in Ivan's case.
%%* ThePollyanna: Ivan.

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%%* * ParentalObliviousness: Taken to extremes in Ivan's case.
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case, who absolutely refuses to admit that his son has any disability (he uses a wheelchair) and claims he's just too tired to walk.
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ThePollyanna: Ivan.Ivan, whose optimism stretches into deep denial of anything bad.



%%* PreacherMan: Ivan.
* PreachersKid: Totally {{subverted}}. Poor Christopher does not have many opportunities to be neither very good nor very bad.
%%* ReformedCriminal: Adam.

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%%* * PreacherMan: Ivan.
Ivan, a pastor in the Church of Denmark who runs a program to help criminals reform.
* PreachersKid: Totally {{subverted}}. Poor Christopher does not have many opportunities to be neither either very good nor or very bad.
%%* * ReformedCriminal: Adam.Adam, by the end of the film, who gives up his criminal ways and becomes Ivan's assistant.



%%* WideEyedIdealist: Ivan, in Adam's eyes.

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%%* * WideEyedIdealist: Ivan, in Adam's eyes.eyes. He resolutely refuses to see bad in anyone or anything, to the point of completely denying it.
5th Dec '15 4:13:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[spoiler:ReformedCriminal]]: Adam.

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* [[spoiler:ReformedCriminal]]: %%* ReformedCriminal: Adam.
5th Dec '15 4:12:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* BaldOfEvil: Adam, in the beginning.

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* %%* BaldOfEvil: Adam, in the beginning.



* BornUnlucky: Ivan.

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* %%* BornUnlucky: Ivan.



* ButtMonkey: Ivan.
* CosmicPlaything
* ConsultingMisterPuppet: Gunnar and his cat.
* CrapsackWorld
* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Eventually happens to Ivan]].
* DeusAngstMachina: Very much.

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* %%* ButtMonkey: Ivan.
* %%* CosmicPlaything
* %%* ConsultingMisterPuppet: Gunnar and his cat.
* %%* CrapsackWorld
* %%* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Eventually happens to Ivan]].
* %%* DeusAngstMachina: Very much.



* DramaticThunder
* DrivenToSuicide: Ivan's wife.
* EvilCannotComprehendGood

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* %%* DramaticThunder
* %%* DrivenToSuicide: Ivan's wife.
* %%* EvilCannotComprehendGood



* GodIsEvil: Adam's initial version.
* GodIsGood: Ivan's initial belief.
* GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion: Sarah.
* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Adam]].
* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace

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* %%* GodIsEvil: Adam's initial version.
* %%* GodIsGood: Ivan's initial belief.
* %%* GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion: Sarah.
* %%* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Adam]].
* %%* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace



* TheLostLenore: Ivan's wife.

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* %%* TheLostLenore: Ivan's wife.



* {{Minimalism}}
* NaziGrandpa: Paul.
* ParentalObliviousness: Taken to extremes in Ivan's case.
* ThePollyanna: Ivan.

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* %%* {{Minimalism}}
* %%* NaziGrandpa: Paul.
* %%* ParentalObliviousness: Taken to extremes in Ivan's case.
* %%* ThePollyanna: Ivan.



* PreacherMan: Ivan.

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* %%* PreacherMan: Ivan.



* RuleOfSymbolism
* SanctuaryOfSolitude: Ivan's church for Ivan.
* StickyFingers: Gunnar.
* TeamPet: Gunnar's cat.
* ThoseWackyNazis: Adam and Paul.
* VillainProtagonist: Adam.
* WideEyedIdealist: Ivan, in Adam's eyes.

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* %%* RuleOfSymbolism
* %%* SanctuaryOfSolitude: Ivan's church for Ivan.
* %%* StickyFingers: Gunnar.
* %%* TeamPet: Gunnar's cat.
* %%* ThoseWackyNazis: Adam and Paul.
* %%* VillainProtagonist: Adam.
* %%* WideEyedIdealist: Ivan, in Adam's eyes.
10th Sep '15 1:58:55 PM Berrenta
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* [[FeatheredFiend Feathered Fiends]]: The CreepyCrows attacking the apple tree.

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* [[FeatheredFiend Feathered Fiends]]: FeatheredFiend: The CreepyCrows attacking the apple tree.



* HowDoYouLikeThemApples
12th Dec '14 8:04:12 PM Fireblood
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* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace
8th Dec '14 6:17:11 PM Fireblood
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* AsTheGoodBookSays: after all, Ivan's a preacher.
* TheAtoner: in a way, all the characters except Ivan and his son (and maybe Dr. Kolberg).

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* AsTheGoodBookSays: after After all, Ivan's a preacher.
minister.
* TheAtoner: in In a way, all the characters except Ivan and his son (and maybe Dr. Kolberg).



* BeliefMakesYouStupid: this is how Adam interprets Ivan's behaviour.

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* BeliefMakesYouStupid: this This is how Adam interprets Ivan's behaviour.behavior.



* BreakTheCutie: what Adam tries to do to Ivan.

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* BreakTheCutie: what What Adam tries to do to Ivan.



* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:eventually happens to Ivan]].
* DeusAngstMachina: very much.
* DeusExMachina: the ending. (Alternatively, and this is what Adam is suggested to think, [[spoiler:the actual Deus was involved]].)

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* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:eventually [[spoiler:Eventually happens to Ivan]].
* DeusAngstMachina: very Very much.
* DeusExMachina: the The ending. (Alternatively, Alternatively, and this is what Adam is suggested to think, [[spoiler:the actual Deus was involved]].)



* [[FeatheredFiend Feathered Fiends]]: the CreepyCrows attacking the apple tree.

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* [[FeatheredFiend Feathered Fiends]]: the The CreepyCrows attacking the apple tree.



* ImpossibleTask: played with. Making an apple pie seems absurdly simple for an ultimate task a of a time spent on community service, but in the end turns out to be almost impossible.
* InMysteriousWays: possibly [[AnAesop the Aesop]] of the whole movie.

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* ImpossibleTask: played with. {{Played with}}. Making an apple pie seems absurdly simple for an ultimate task as a of a time spent goal while on community service, but in the end turns out to be almost impossible.
* InMysteriousWays: possibly Possibly [[AnAesop the Aesop]] of the whole movie.



* ParentalObliviousness: taken to extremes in Ivan's case.

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* ParentalObliviousness: taken Taken to extremes in Ivan's case.



* PreachersKid: totally subverted. Poor Christopher does not have many opportunities to be neither very good nor very bad.

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* PreachersKid: totally subverted.Totally {{subverted}}. Poor Christopher does not have many opportunities to be neither very good nor very bad.
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