History Film / AKnightsTale

22nd Jun '17 8:13:47 PM karstovich2
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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in [[TheLateMiddleAges 14th-century England]]. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.

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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in [[TheLateMiddleAges 14th-century England]]. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Edward, Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.
22nd Jun '17 8:13:19 PM karstovich2
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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in Medieval Europe. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.

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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in Medieval Europe.[[TheLateMiddleAges 14th-century England]]. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.
8th Jun '17 1:37:53 PM thecarolinabull01
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* MulticoloredHair: If you look closely, you'll see that Kate's hair has dyed green tips.

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* MulticoloredHair: If you look closely, you'll see that Kate's hair has dyed green tips. Jocelyn has the occasional highlights in her hair as well.


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* OnlyOneName: William[[note]]Along with his father[[/note]] and Chaucer are the only characters whose full names have been revealed.
14th May '17 9:41:45 PM thecarolinabull01
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* InformedAttractiveness: Jocelyn. The amount of praise over her looks is extremely over the top, particularly since she wears a lot of bizarre and unflattering outfits and hairstyles. Not helping matters is that other female characters, despite being just as, if not more, attractive, receive no attention or remarks. Granted she is a noblewoman, while they are a maid and blacksmith respectively, but some find it CharacterShilling.
** This is very much YMMV.

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* InformedAttractiveness: Jocelyn. The amount of praise over her looks is extremely over the top, particularly since she wears a lot of bizarre and unflattering outfits and hairstyles. Not helping matters is that other female characters, despite being just as, if not more, attractive, receive no attention or remarks. Granted she is a noblewoman, while they are a maid and blacksmith respectively, but some find it CharacterShilling.
** This
CharacterShilling. Though this is very much YMMV.



* {{Jerkass}}: Adhemar, upon first meeting William, immediately insults him several times and he just gets worse from there. They seem to have even gone out of their way to make him completely utterly dislikeable.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Adhemar, upon first meeting William, immediately insults him several times and he just gets worse from there. They seem to have even gone out of their way to make him completely utterly dislikeable.unlikeable.



* MulticoloredHair: If you look closely, you'll see that Kate's hair has dyed green tips.



* StockPunishment: Several people are seen there. One even [[InsultBackfire mockingly tells young William if he wants to be a Knight, he would ]][[ArcWords change his stars]].

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* StockPunishment: Several people are seen there. One even [[InsultBackfire mockingly tells young William if he wants to be a Knight, he would ]][[ArcWords would]][[ArcWords change his stars]].



* VillainRespect: While he spends the whole movie against Will, Adhemar has to admit that Will has done well in the joust, and in their first joust he remarks, "No style whatsoever... neither has an anvil." I.e., that Will's technique might not be the best, but he can deliver and take hits as well as anyone.

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* VillainRespect: While he spends the whole movie against Will, Adhemar has to admit that Will has done well in the joust, and in their first joust he remarks, "No style whatsoever... neither has an anvil." I.e., that Will's technique might not be the best, but he can deliver and take hits as well as anyone. All that respect is thrown out the window once [[spoiler:he finds out William's true identity]].
5th May '17 11:22:23 PM salasay
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**This is very much YMMV.
20th Apr '17 9:51:49 PM thecarolinabull01
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* InformedAttractiveness: Jocelyn. The amount of praise over her looks is extremely over the top, particularly since she wears a lot of bizarre and unflattering outfits and hairstyles. Not helping matters is that other female characters, despite being just as, if not more, attractive, receive no attention or remarks. Granted she is a noblewoman, while they are a maid and blacksmith respectively, but some find it CharacterShilling.
19th Apr '17 9:44:48 PM thecarolinabull01
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The word "shite" is uncensored in most TV airings, which is unusual since it's the English equivalent of "shit".
19th Apr '17 9:40:50 PM thecarolinabull01
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* DiscriminateAndSwitch: How Will convinces Kate to fix his armour.
--> '''William''': It's just as well, they told me I was daft for even asking.
--> '''Kate''': Who?
--> '''William''': The other armourers.
--> '''Kate''': Did they say I couldn't do it because I'm a woman?
--> '''William''': No, they said you were great with horseshoes, but shite with armour. The fact that you were a woman wasn't even mentioned.
26th Mar '17 7:24:37 AM Will
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Pretty standard, then. Except...oh yeah, it's set in Medieval Europe. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.

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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in Medieval Europe. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.



* ChekhovsSkill: {{Subverted}} with William's swordsmanship--he's shown early on to be very good in the sword, and wins a tournament in the sport in his first go...then declares that it's Tournament Champion or nothing and he never picks another sword up for the rest of the film.

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* ChekhovsSkill: {{Subverted}} with William's swordsmanship--he's shown early on to be very good in the sword, and wins a tournament in the sport in his first go... then declares that it's Tournament Champion or nothing and he never picks another sword up for the rest of the film.



* CurtainClothing: When asked what William will wear to a banquet, Roland's inspiration, and description comes from the cloth tent he is staring at. In his own words "Eh...green. Um...trimmed in a kind of...pale...green...uh, wi-with, uh...wooden toggles."

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* CurtainClothing: When asked what William will wear to a banquet, Roland's inspiration, and description comes from the cloth tent he is staring at. In his own words "Eh... green. Um... trimmed in a kind of...pale...green...of... pale... green... uh, wi-with, uh...uh... wooden toggles."



'''Roland:''' ...you have been measured...\\
'''Kate:''' ...and you absolutely...\\
'''Chaucer:''' ...have been found wanting. [[note]]Taken from Daniel 5:27 in the Bible.[[/note]]\\

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'''Roland:''' ...you You have been measured...\\
'''Kate:''' ...and And you absolutely...\\
'''Chaucer:''' ...have Have been found wanting. [[note]]Taken from Daniel 5:27 in the Bible.[[/note]]\\



** Kate invents the Bessemer Process for heating steel 400-500 years before it happened. When William first walks out in his thin, lightweight new armor, he's meet with guffaws of ridicule...until he easily swings himself up onto horseback unassisted (in contrast to an earlier shot of servants laboring to heft a heavily-armored knight into the saddle). The laughter dies off in a hurry then.

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** Kate invents the Bessemer Process for heating steel 400-500 years before it happened. When William first walks out in his thin, lightweight new armor, he's meet with guffaws of ridicule... until he easily swings himself up onto horseback unassisted (in contrast to an earlier shot of servants laboring to heft a heavily-armored knight into the saddle). The laughter dies off in a hurry then.



--> '''Chaucer''': My lords...my ladies... (''Chaucer bows then turns to the audience'') ...and everybody else here ''not sitting on a cushion''!

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--> '''Chaucer''': My lords... my ladies... (''Chaucer bows then turns to the audience'') ... and everybody else here ''not sitting on a cushion''!



'''William:''' ''(sitting on his horse, going nowhere)'' ...Losing.\\

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'''William:''' ''(sitting on his horse, going nowhere)'' ... Losing.\\



'''William:''' ...Neither do I. ''CRASH!''

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'''William:''' ... Neither do I. ''CRASH!''



--->'''Ahdemar''': No style at all...but neither has an anvil.\\

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--->'''Ahdemar''': No style at all... but neither has an anvil.\\



* SatelliteLoveInterest: Jocelyn. She's beautiful, rich, likes clothes, loves William...and that's it. All the poor girl gets to do is stand on the sidelines and then have either a love scene or a fighting scene with Will. Though she's lucky enough to even get moments of [[DeadpanSnarker witty lines]] and [[PluckyGirl displays of spunk.]] She also kind of lampshades this. Her initial rejection of Will is based on him treating her like this, as every knight who was smitten with her pretty face has done. She asks him to think of her as a person, not a prize, and when he ''does'' she falls for him. Not that the audience gets to know her very well, she still fits the trope for us.

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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Jocelyn. She's beautiful, rich, likes clothes, loves William... and that's it. All the poor girl gets to do is stand on the sidelines and then have either a love scene or a fighting scene with Will. Though she's lucky enough to even get moments of [[DeadpanSnarker witty lines]] and [[PluckyGirl displays of spunk.]] She also kind of lampshades this. Her initial rejection of Will is based on him treating her like this, as every knight who was smitten with her pretty face has done. She asks him to think of her as a person, not a prize, and when he ''does'' she falls for him. Not that the audience gets to know her very well, she still fits the trope for us.



'''Roland''': ...Well the Pope may be French, but Jesus is English. You're on!

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'''Roland''': ... Well the Pope may be French, but Jesus is English. You're on!



'''Jocelyn:''' [crying] Yes, William...with the pigs.
* VillainRespect: While he spends the whole movie against Will, Adhemar has to admit that Will has done well in the joust, and in their first joust he remarks, "No style whatsoever...neither has an anvil." I.e., that Will's technique might not be the best, but he can deliver and take hits as well as anyone.

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'''Jocelyn:''' [crying] Yes, William... with the pigs.
* VillainRespect: While he spends the whole movie against Will, Adhemar has to admit that Will has done well in the joust, and in their first joust he remarks, "No style whatsoever... neither has an anvil." I.e., that Will's technique might not be the best, but he can deliver and take hits as well as anyone.
25th Mar '17 10:50:04 PM freyalorelei
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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in Medieval Europe. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.

Released in 2001, ''A Knight's Tale'' was written and directed by Brian Helgeland. It stars Creator/HeathLedger as William Thatcher, Paul Bettany as Creator/GeoffreyChaucer ([[InThePastEveryoneWillBeFamous yes]], [[Literature/TheCanterburyTales that one]]) and a whole bunch of people you recognise from cool stuff and kind of like, even though they've never quite hit the big time (including cast members from ''Series/{{Rome}}'', ''Series/{{Firefly}}'', ''Film/TheFullMonty'', ''Series/GameOfThrones'' and Creator/NeilGaiman's ''Series/{{Neverwhere}}'').

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Pretty standard, then. Except... oh yeah, it's set in Medieval Europe. [[TheTourney The sport is jousting]]. The struggling underdog is a peasant [[FakeAristocrat posing as a noble knight]]. The big boss is Prince Edward of Wales, aka the Black Prince.

Released in 2001, ''A Knight's Tale'' was written and directed by Brian Helgeland. It stars Creator/HeathLedger as William Thatcher, Paul Bettany Creator/PaulBettany as Creator/GeoffreyChaucer ([[InThePastEveryoneWillBeFamous yes]], [[Literature/TheCanterburyTales that one]]) and a whole bunch of people you recognise from cool stuff and kind of like, even though they've never quite hit the big time (including cast members from ''Series/{{Rome}}'', ''Series/{{Firefly}}'', ''Film/TheFullMonty'', ''Series/GameOfThrones'' and Creator/NeilGaiman's ''Series/{{Neverwhere}}'').



**However, when we later see William wearing the tent-turned-tunic, there isn't a toggle to be seen.



** Kate invents the Bessemer Process for heating steel 400-500 years before it happened. When William first walks out in his thin, lightweight new armor, he's meet with guffaws of ridicule... until he easily swings himself up onto horseback unassisted (in contrast to an earlier shot of servants laboring to heft a heavily-armored knight into the saddle). The laughter dies off in a hurry then.

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** Kate invents the Bessemer Process for heating steel 400-500 years before it happened. When William first walks out in his thin, lightweight new armor, he's meet with guffaws of ridicule... until he easily swings himself up onto horseback unassisted (in contrast to an earlier shot of servants laboring to heft a heavily-armored knight into the saddle). The laughter dies off in a hurry then.



--> '''Chaucer''': My lords...my ladies... (''Chaucer bows then turns to the audience'')...and everybody else here ''not sitting on a cushion''!

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--> '''Chaucer''': My lords...my ladies... (''Chaucer bows then turns to the audience'')...audience'') ...and everybody else here ''not sitting on a cushion''!



--->'''Ahdemar''': No style at all. . . but neither has an anvil.\\

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--->'''Ahdemar''': No style at all. . . all...but neither has an anvil.\\



* SatelliteLoveInterest: Jocelyn. She's beautiful, rich, likes clothes, loves William... and that's it. All the poor girl gets to do is stand on the sidelines and then have either a love scene or a fighting scene with Will. Though she's lucky enough to even get moments of [[DeadpanSnarker witty lines]] and [[PluckyGirl displays of spunk.]] She also kind of lampshades this. Her initial rejection of Will is based on him treating her like this, as every knight who was smitten with her pretty face has done. She asks him to think of her as a person, not a prize, and when he ''does'' she falls for him. Not that the audience gets to know her very well, she still fits the trope for us.

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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Jocelyn. She's beautiful, rich, likes clothes, loves William... and that's it. All the poor girl gets to do is stand on the sidelines and then have either a love scene or a fighting scene with Will. Though she's lucky enough to even get moments of [[DeadpanSnarker witty lines]] and [[PluckyGirl displays of spunk.]] She also kind of lampshades this. Her initial rejection of Will is based on him treating her like this, as every knight who was smitten with her pretty face has done. She asks him to think of her as a person, not a prize, and when he ''does'' she falls for him. Not that the audience gets to know her very well, she still fits the trope for us.



* TrainingMontage: To the tune of "Low Rider", featuring an array of increasingly-inventive lance training set-ups, with Roland and Wat taking most of the punishment from both William's initally terrible jousting skills and his all-too-good swordsmanship.

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* TrainingMontage: To the tune of "Low Rider", featuring an array of increasingly-inventive lance training set-ups, with Roland and Wat taking most of the punishment from both William's initally initially terrible jousting skills and his all-too-good swordsmanship.



* VillainRespect: While he spends the whole movie against Will, Adhemar has to admit that Will has done well in the joust, and in their first joust he remarks, "No style whatsoever... neither has an anvil." I.e., that Will's technique might not be the best, but he can deliver and take hits as well as anyone.

to:

* VillainRespect: While he spends the whole movie against Will, Adhemar has to admit that Will has done well in the joust, and in their first joust he remarks, "No style whatsoever... neither has an anvil." I.e., that Will's technique might not be the best, but he can deliver and take hits as well as anyone.
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