History Fanfic / TheDilgarWar

12th Oct '15 4:34:26 PM HighCrate
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* MeaningfulName: see FauxSymbolism.
* MightyGlacier: Earthforce ships are notable for being ugly, slow, capable to take a lot of punishment and hit HARD, as shown by the ''Persephone'' destroying approximately five times worth her own mass of Dilgar ships (made out of three cruisers, two destroyers and four frigates) and could still fight. And the ''Persephone'' was a mere heavy cruiser, that is both faster, less armed and softer than the Nova-class dreadnoughts, one of which, the ''Nemesis'' in a battle was hit by a kiloton-level nuke, innumerable plasma and laser shots by Dilgar weapons, a Starfury shooting at the fuel lines (the nuke had destroyed the ship's ability to maneuver, that was the only way to make her change course) and HER OWN WEAPONS (they had to kill a Dilgar gunship, and the hull was in the way), and all she needed was a couple months in spacedock before returning fighting capable and scoring the first killing of a Dilgar [[SuperPrototype Sekhmet-class cruiser]].

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* MightyGlacier: Earthforce ships are notable for being ugly, slow, capable to take a lot of punishment and hit HARD, hard-hitting, as shown by the ''Persephone'' destroying approximately five times worth her own mass of Dilgar ships (made out of three (three cruisers, two destroyers and four frigates) and could coming out of the fray still able to fight. And the ''Persephone'' was is a mere heavy cruiser, that is both faster, less armed and softer than the while Nova-class dreadnoughts, one of which, the ''Nemesis'' in a battle was hit by a kiloton-level nuke, innumerable plasma dreadnoughts are even better-armed and laser shots by Dilgar weapons, a Starfury shooting at the fuel lines (the nuke had destroyed the ship's ability to maneuver, that was the only way to make her change course) and HER OWN WEAPONS (they had to kill a Dilgar gunship, and the hull was in the way), and all she needed was a couple months in spacedock before returning fighting capable and scoring the first killing of a Dilgar [[SuperPrototype Sekhmet-class cruiser]].even slower.
17th Sep '15 5:05:16 PM JustCause
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Well, armor piercing answer. Throughout the story, Jha'dur gives constant justifications for her increasingly sadistic and genocidal actions. Ari'shan pretty much called her excuses out as nothing more than excuses. Jha'dur is so stunned by his words, she actually stops for a few seconds.

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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Well, armor piercing answer. ArmorPiercingResponse: Throughout the story, Jha'dur gives constant justifications for her increasingly sadistic and genocidal actions. Ari'shan pretty much called her excuses out as nothing more than excuses. Jha'dur is so stunned by his words, she actually stops for a few seconds.
26th Aug '15 10:32:23 PM cpslck
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* RightManInTheWrongPlace: Practically a RunningGag with the Space Race (and Paul Calendar specifically) encountering Dilgar invasions and ships while on smuggling trips. Only partially justified the crew actively supporting the war effort and at least two of them looking for Dilgar ships.

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* RightManInTheWrongPlace: Practically a RunningGag with the Space Race (and Paul Calendar specifically) encountering Dilgar invasions and ships while on smuggling trips. Only partially justified the crew actively supporting the war effort and at least two of them actively looking for Dilgar ships.



** Done again on Alacan. When the humans are about to retake Alacan, the Dilgar set off nukes planted on the planet. The ensuing nuclear holocaust wipes out the remaining surviving Alacan natives as well as the Dilgar on the surface.

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** Done again on Alacan. Alaca. When the humans are about to retake Alacan, Alaca, the Dilgar set off nukes planted on the planet. The ensuing nuclear holocaust wipes out the remaining surviving Alacan natives as well as the Dilgar on the surface.
17th Jul '15 8:00:47 PM still_guns
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: Captain Manly Power of the battlecruiser ''EAS Temeraire'', known to his crew as Captain Power (according to a character, he has the best name ever). Quite appropriately, his first appearance has his ship scaring away a Dilgar task force.
* BadBoss: Most Dilgar high officers have a tendence to execute subordinates who have been defeated or who tell them they're wrong. Jha'dur and a few others are more lenient, sparing subordinates who loses due bad luck and circumstances and encouraging them to voice their opinions, but they're rare. This results in most Dilgar officers being unable to think on their feet and bites them back in the ass at Balos, as [[spoiler: after Jha'dur is apparently killed in battle there's noone capable to direct the battle half-decently and the Alliance can pick them off piecemeal]].

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* AwesomeMcCoolname: Captain Manly Power of the battlecruiser ''EAS Temeraire'', known to his crew as Captain Power (according to a character, he has the best name ever). Quite appropriately, his first appearance has his ship scaring away a Dilgar task force.
force. His name may not even be a coincidence, as there was a real Royal Navy Captain of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manley_Laurence_Power same name]].
* BadBoss: Most Dilgar high officers have a tendence tendency to execute subordinates who have been defeated or who tell them they're wrong. Jha'dur and a few others are more lenient, sparing subordinates who loses due bad luck and circumstances and encouraging them to voice their opinions, but they're rare. This results in most Dilgar officers being unable to think on their feet and bites them back in the ass at Balos, as [[spoiler: after Jha'dur is apparently killed in battle there's noone capable to direct the battle half-decently and the Alliance can pick them off piecemeal]].
23rd Jun '15 10:46:16 AM cpslck
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*** Though there are shades in the others, Ari'shan is the closest to a classic "Knight of the Sky" archetype - a chivalrous, honorable AcePilot who fights for glory in battle. His often duels other pilots in single combat and holds the utmost respect for enemies. His squadron is even called Knight Squadron to hammer in the point.
25th May '15 8:07:09 PM cpslck
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** Specifically, humans fall under the Humans Are Soldiers version of the trope. There are plenty of ProudWarriorRaceGuy and religious fanatic races (like the Drazi or Markab) and [[SoliderVsWarrior they are all defeated]]. Humans have the discipline and ruthlessness to match the Dilgar.

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** Specifically, humans fall under the Humans Are Soldiers version of the trope. There are plenty of ProudWarriorRaceGuy and religious fanatic races (like the Drazi or Markab) and [[SoliderVsWarrior [[SoldierVsWarrior they are all defeated]]. defeated by the better trained and better lead Dilgar]]. Humans have match the Dilgar in ruthlessness and discipline and ruthlessness willingness to match the Dilgar. wage total war and that's what worries Jha'dur


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* SoldierVsWarrior:A running theme. A ProudWarriorRaceGuy race is all well and good for border skirmishes and posturing but as Jha'dur consistently shows, a well trained army can outmaneuver and out fight a army of individual warriors. Humans are a threat because humans have discipline and ruthlessness to rival the Dilgar.
** One of Stro'kath's feats is his ability to browbeat a race of ProudWarriorRaceGuy into actually working together as an army rather than zerg rushing the enemy for individual glory. Once he accomplishes this, his strategies start working and the Drazi begin fighting back.
25th May '15 7:56:32 PM cpslck
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** Specifically, humans fall under the Humans Are Soldiers version of the trope. There are plenty of ProudWarriorRaceGuy and religious fanatic races (like the Drazi or Markab) and they are all defeated. Only humans have the discipline and ruthlessness to match the Dilgar.

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** Specifically, humans fall under the Humans Are Soldiers version of the trope. There are plenty of ProudWarriorRaceGuy and religious fanatic races (like the Drazi or Markab) and [[SoliderVsWarrior they are all defeated. Only humans defeated]]. Humans have the discipline and ruthlessness to match the Dilgar.
25th May '15 7:51:21 PM cpslck
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** Specifically, humans fall under the Humans Are Soldiers version of the trope. There are plenty of ProudWarriorRaceGuy and religious fanatic races (like the Drazi or Markab) and they are all defeated. Only humans have the discipline and ruthlessness to match the Dilgar.
19th May '15 7:54:07 PM cpslck
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* {{Foil}}: Humans and Dilgar are what each race could have been. Humanity and Dilgar-kind both fought genocidal civil wars with despotic dictatorships. Humanity rejected genocide, nuclear destruction and tyranny, settling into a race of TechnicalPacifist while the Dilgar embraced it and became TheEmpire.
** The way Humans and Dilgar choose to rise as a major galactic power. The Dilgar conquered the League, enslaving worlds and races to build a powerful empire. Humans instead assisted with retaking and reconstructing the League, establishing itself as a force through diplomatic and economic means.



* GenocideDilemma: The League wants to completely (including at one point the [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness peaceful Abbai]]) wipe out the Dilgar after the war. Earthforce has to step in and strong-arm and threaten the League into agreeing to spare them. [[spoiler: Some of the Drazi and Brakiri, upon noticing the Dilgar sun's anomalies, TakeAThirdOption. They don't tell anyone of their findings, letting the sun destroy the race]]



* IDieFree: A villianous version. Most of the Dilgar would rather die than let themselves be captured or conquered by Earthforce. For example, the Warmasters would rather let the Dilgar sun ''wipe out their race'', than allow the Earthforce government to rebuild and remake the Dilgar into a peaceful people.



* NinetyPercentOfYourBrain: While Jha'dur is talking to Dal'Shan [[spoiler: her lover]], she goes on about how having large brains and only using a portion of them is against evolution and comes to the (unsubstantiated) conclusion that some unknown species has been tampering with the local life.



** Ari'shan points out it goes both ways - just as humans can become like Dilgar, so do Dilgar have the potential to become like humans.



** Done again on Alacan. When the humans are about to retake Alacan, the Dilgar set off nukes planted on the planet. The ensuing nuclear holocaust wipes out the remaining surviving Alacan natives as well as the Dilgar on the surface.



* ShootTheBullet: As in Babylon 5 proper, Earth warships are equipped with Interceptors, energy-based CISW capable to shoot down incoming fire from plasma, particle and missile weapons (lasers are trickier, as they need that the laser is firing directly at the Interceptor), and treat enemy fighters as ''target practice''. Their only glitch is that they overheat fast in pitched battles, so they're more a way for Earthforce ships to close in and make their superior firepower count.



* ShootTheBullet: As in Babylon 5 proper, Earth warships are equipped with Interceptors, energy-based CISW capable to shoot down incoming fire from plasma, particle and missile weapons (lasers are trickier, as they need that the laser is firing directly at the Interceptor), and treat enemy fighters as ''target practice''. Their only glitch is that they overheat fast in pitched battles, so they're more a way for Earthforce ships to close in and make their superior firepower count.

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* ShootTheBullet: As in Babylon 5 proper, Earth warships are equipped SomeoneToRememberHimBy: [[spoiler: Jenny finds out she's pregnant with Interceptors, energy-based CISW capable to shoot down incoming fire from plasma, particle and missile weapons (lasers are trickier, as they need that the laser is firing directly at the Interceptor), and treat enemy fighters as ''target practice''. Their only glitch is that they overheat fast in pitched battles, so they're more a way for Earthforce ships to close in and make their superior firepower count.Paul's child]]



* NinetyPercentOfYourBrain: While Jha'dur is talking to Dal'Shan [[spoiler: her lover]], she goes on about how having large brains and only using a portion of them is against evolution and comes to the (unsubstantiated) conclusion that some unknown species has been tampering with the local life.

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* NinetyPercentOfYourBrain: While Jha'dur is talking to Dal'Shan [[spoiler: her lover]], she WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue: The last chapter goes on about how having large brains and only using a portion of them is against evolution and comes to into the (unsubstantiated) conclusion that fates of some unknown species has been tampering with of the local life.major players in the war.
18th May '15 12:45:54 PM cpslck
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* DividedWeFall: It's noted that if the League listened to the surviving Alacans or powerful members allied together for defense, the Dilgar would have been stopped. Instead the Dilgar picked off each planet one by one and by the time the League realized the threat, no one in the League was powerful enough to stop them.

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* DividedWeFall: It's noted that if the League listened to the surviving Alacans or powerful members allied together for defense, the Dilgar would have been stopped. Instead Instead, the Dilgar picked off each planet one by one and by the time the League realized the threat, no one in the League was powerful enough to stop them.



* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Jha'dur has very few Dilgar that she is close to (enough to count on one hand). A major plot point is how the death of her friends and family cause her to slide further into insanity and cause her to become even more destructive.



* FragileSpeedster: Dilgar ships are remarkably fast and well armed, but their armor is rather thin. Drazi and Vree employ small ships of similar conception, only faster (and, in the case of the Vree, more heavily armed than anything of similar size) and more thinly armored. A [[StoneWall powerful enough defense]] (like the Abbai homeworld protection grid) or [[GlassCannon offense]] (like the Drazi army or the Hyach ships) can temporarily fend off the Dilgar. Jha'dur strength as a military commander is coming up with ways to use Dilgar speed and discipline to their greatest advantage.

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* FragileSpeedster: Dilgar ships are remarkably fast and well armed, but their armor is rather thin. Drazi and Vree employ small ships of similar conception, only faster (and, in the case of the Vree, more heavily armed than anything of similar size) and more thinly armored. A [[StoneWall powerful enough [[StoneWall defense]] (like the Abbai homeworld protection grid) or [[GlassCannon offense]] (like the Drazi army or the Hyach ships) can temporarily fend off the Dilgar. Jha'dur strength as a military commander is coming up with ways to use Dilgar speed and discipline to their greatest advantage.



* JustBeforeTheEnd: The impending destruction of Omelos sparks the war. Though it's mentioned that Omelos was dying anyway, the fallout and destruction cause by nuclear war and overpopulation was slowly killing the planet.



** As Jha'Dur losses more and more of her few loved ones, she start becoming more and more ruthless and determined. Dar'shan's death and Ari'shan's capture breaks her even more.



* ThePerfectionist: Deconstructed. Jha'dur is insanely good at everything she does but the problem is that she's the keystone of the Dilgar Army and micromanages the entire Dilgar Navy down to the last Pentacan. When she [[spoiler: is seemingly killed at Balos, the fleet falls apart]].



* SanitySlippage: Jha'dur gets accused of this after the deaths of her brother, lover and the coma of her father figure. It's arguable but she definitely becomes much much more ruthless as the deaths pile up.



* ShootTheBullet: as in Babylon 5 proper, Earth warships are equipped with Interceptors, energy-based CISW capable to shoot down incoming fire from plasma, particle and missile weapons (lasers are trickier, as they need that the laser is firing directly at the Interceptor), and treat enemy fighters as ''target practice''. Their only glitch is that they overheat fast in pitched battles, so they're more a way for Earthforce ships to close in and make their superior firepower count.

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* ShootTheBullet: as As in Babylon 5 proper, Earth warships are equipped with Interceptors, energy-based CISW capable to shoot down incoming fire from plasma, particle and missile weapons (lasers are trickier, as they need that the laser is firing directly at the Interceptor), and treat enemy fighters as ''target practice''. Their only glitch is that they overheat fast in pitched battles, so they're more a way for Earthforce ships to close in and make their superior firepower count.



** Supreme Warmaster Gar'shan is the Supreme Warmaster for a reason: defeating Jha'dur in battle it's actually ''easier'' than dealing with him.

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** Supreme Warmaster Gar'shan is the Supreme Warmaster for a reason: defeating Jha'dur in battle it's is actually ''easier'' than dealing with him.
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