History EvilCounterpart / ComicBooks

16th Apr '17 3:00:09 AM Silverblade2
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** While SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker has always been this to Batman (The Joker himself has pointed out they are both the results of something traumatic and life shattering ([[MultipleChoicePast maybe]]), in ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', [[spoiler:this time he is figuratively borrowing pages from Batman's book, like turning off the lights to get the drop on a group of his enemies, and finding out the Batfamily's secrets so he can hit his enemies where it hurts!]]

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** While SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker has always been this to Batman (The Joker himself has pointed out they are both the results of something traumatic and life shattering ([[MultipleChoicePast maybe]]), in ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', [[spoiler:this time he is figuratively borrowing pages from Batman's book, like turning off the lights to get the drop on a group of his enemies, and finding out the Batfamily's secrets so he can hit his enemies where it hurts!]]



* Red-Mist is this to ''ComicBook/KickAss''. While Dave was inspired by the heroes in the comics, Chris was inspired by the villains (even quoting SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker before setting up his AvengingTheVillain story-line in Volume Two).

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* Red-Mist is this to ''ComicBook/KickAss''. While Dave was inspired by the heroes in the comics, Chris was inspired by the villains (even quoting SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker before setting up his AvengingTheVillain story-line in Volume Two).
30th Mar '17 12:58:52 AM PaulA
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* In the ''{{ComicBook/Fables}}'' universe, [[WizardOfOz Dorothy Gale]] is this to Fabletown's Cinderella. They're both female, attractive, and work black ops...but [[spoiler: Dorothy works freelance, purely for money, while Cindy considers herself a Fabletown patriot.]] They are blood enemies.

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* In the ''{{ComicBook/Fables}}'' universe, [[WizardOfOz [[Literature/LandOfOz Dorothy Gale]] is this to Fabletown's Cinderella. They're both female, attractive, and work black ops...but [[spoiler: Dorothy works freelance, purely for money, while Cindy considers herself a Fabletown patriot.]] They are blood enemies.
4th Mar '17 12:23:05 PM nombretomado
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** Oddly enough, Hulk's RoguesGallery also includes ''someone else's'' Evil Counterparts. The U-Foes are a group of four villains whose origin, powers, and personalities are all extremely similar to those of the Comicbook/FantasticFour. Strangely, they have never faced the FF despite all of the characters being MarvelComics characters.

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** Oddly enough, Hulk's RoguesGallery also includes ''someone else's'' Evil Counterparts. The U-Foes are a group of four villains whose origin, powers, and personalities are all extremely similar to those of the Comicbook/FantasticFour. Strangely, they have never faced the FF despite all of the characters being MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics characters.
22nd Feb '17 6:51:30 PM JoeMerl
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* ''ComicBook/BlueBeetle'' has the Black Beetle.

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* ''ComicBook/BlueBeetle'' has the Black Beetle.Beetle, in terms of his name and PoweredArmor; beyond that we're not too sure, since [[MultipleChoicePast he keeps changing his backstory]]. Eventually he claims to be an evil version of Jaime from the future, but at that point Jaime has stopped caring who he claims to be.



** Another member of the Time Stealers is Black Beetle, an EvilCounterpart to ComicBook/BlueBeetle with a MultipleChoicePast.

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** Another member of the Time Stealers is Black Beetle, an EvilCounterpart to ComicBook/BlueBeetle with a MultipleChoicePast.listed above.
15th Feb '17 6:19:30 PM JoeMerl
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** There's also one-off 1950s villain [[SdrawkcabName Niatpac Levram]], who's literally just an evil version of Captain Marvel's reflection brought to life by a wizard.
15th Feb '17 6:13:16 PM JoeMerl
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** In ''Thunderworld #1'', in the Sivanas of the Multiverse, there's a Hannibal Lecter-esque version who is far more bloodthirsty and depraved than the rest of them, who travelled back in time and violently murdered his universe's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Billy Batson]] before he became the Wizard's champion, and as a result has become very bored.

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** In ''Thunderworld #1'', in the Sivanas of the Multiverse, there's a Hannibal Lecter-esque version who is far more bloodthirsty and depraved than the rest of them, who travelled back in time and violently murdered his universe's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Billy Batson]] before he became the Wizard's champion, and as champion. As a result has become very bored.bored. (Thunderworld's Sivana seems [[EvenEvilHasStandards a bit put off by him]].)



** [[TheBrute Ibac]] was Cap's first thematic counterpart: he derives his powers evil historical people the way he gets his from legendary good ones, and changes by [[ByThePowerOfGreyskull saying a magic word]]. Junior later got his own version, [[EvilSorcerer Sabbac]], whose powers come from [[DealWithTheDevil six demons]].
** Comicbook/BlackAdam is Captain Marvel's most direct opposite: they have the exact same powers[[note]]well, more or less; when Adam says SHAZAM the acronym is derived from the names of ''Egyptian'' gods, since he lived ''before'' the Greek gods and legendary figures that make up Captain Marvel's SHAZAM, but the net effect is essentially the same[[/note]], since Adam was the Wizard's original Champion. Eventually, he became something of an AntiVillain and got a super-powered wife and brother-in-law who were analogues to Mary and Freddy; they even knew a mutant crocodile who served as a counterpart to [[PantheraAwesome Tawny]]. Then CerebusSyndrome made them all evil to various degrees, fulfilling this trope.

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** [[TheBrute Ibac]] was Cap's first thematic counterpart: he derives his powers from evil historical people figures the way he that Cap gets his from legendary good ones, and changes by [[ByThePowerOfGreyskull saying a magic word]]. Junior later got his own version, [[EvilSorcerer Sabbac]], whose powers come from [[DealWithTheDevil six demons]].
** Comicbook/BlackAdam is Captain Marvel's most direct opposite: they have the exact same powers[[note]]well, more or less; when Adam says SHAZAM the acronym is derived gets his from the names of ''Egyptian'' gods, since he lived ''before'' the Greek gods and legendary figures that make up Captain Marvel's SHAZAM, but the net effect is essentially the same[[/note]], since Adam was the Wizard's [[FallenHero original Champion. Champion]]. Eventually, he became something more of an AntiVillain and got a super-powered wife and brother-in-law who were analogues to Mary and Freddy; they even knew a mutant crocodile who served as a counterpart to [[PantheraAwesome Tawky Tawny]]. Then CerebusSyndrome made them all evil to various degrees, fulfilling this trope.
22nd Jan '17 3:37:18 AM Oddstar6
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* DC's White Martians are evil counterparts of the [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter Green Martians]].


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* Another [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational Justice League]] example would be the Queen Bee, who was the evil counterpart to Maxwell Lord. This was back when Max himself was a good guy (who, granted, did some ethically questionable things), before DC retconned him into being a villain. Max and the Queen Bee both had mind-control powers, and they both got control of superhero teams, the Justice League and the Global Guardians, respectively, and they were both manipulators and intriguers. But while Max was basically good if flawed, the Queen Bee was evil.
* DC's White Martians are evil counterparts of the [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter Green Martians]].
8th Jan '17 2:22:58 PM nombretomado
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*** ''The [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Galactus Trilogy'' takes this even further by making Red Guardian an ''explicit'' attempt to make a Soviet Captain America. He even has his own shield!

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*** ''The [[UltimateMarvel [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Galactus Trilogy'' takes this even further by making Red Guardian an ''explicit'' attempt to make a Soviet Captain America. He even has his own shield!



*** Really played up with by UltimateMarvel Nuke, who is literally "Captain America of the Vietnam War" but who turned against America after perceiving how corrupt and evil the country had become during that time period, in contrast to Cap, who acknowledges that America has done wrong, but thinks it can be saved from itself.

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*** Really played up with by UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Nuke, who is literally "Captain America of the Vietnam War" but who turned against America after perceiving how corrupt and evil the country had become during that time period, in contrast to Cap, who acknowledges that America has done wrong, but thinks it can be saved from itself.
8th Jan '17 12:24:33 PM comicwriter
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** Not only Sinestro was once a Green Lantern himself, in ComicBook/PostCrisis continuity he actually ''trained'' Hal Jordan in the use of his powers before becoming his nemesis.

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** Not only Sinestro {{Sinestro}} was once a Green Lantern himself, in ComicBook/PostCrisis continuity he actually ''trained'' Hal Jordan in the use of his powers before becoming his nemesis.
4th Jan '17 6:45:39 AM RighteousFury
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** For that matter, Doom could also be seen a this to ComicBook/BlackPanther. Both were introduced in ''FF'' and are the beloved rulers of foreign countries, except that while T'Challa is TheGoodKing of Wakanda and an ally to the FF, Doom is despised almost everywhere outside of Latveria.
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