History EvenEvilHasStandards / VideoGames

4th Feb '17 1:26:37 PM MummyGaGa
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** Come to VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3, even ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]] invokes this trope by stating that [[spoiler: Korekiro]] was disgusting due to [[spoiler: his motive to kill Angie and Tenko (killing them as a ploy to resume his [[BrotherSisterIncest romantic relationship]] with his sister in the afterlife).]]

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** Come to VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3, even ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]] kuma]]'' invokes this trope by stating that [[spoiler: Korekiro]] was disgusting due to [[spoiler: his motive to kill Angie and Tenko (killing them as a ploy to resume his [[BrotherSisterIncest romantic relationship]] with his sister in the afterlife).]]
4th Feb '17 1:26:11 PM MummyGaGa
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** Come to VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3, even ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]] invokes this trope by stating that [[spoiler: Korekiro]] was disgusting due to [[spoiler: his motive to kill Angie and Tenko (killing them as a ploy to resume his [[BrotherSisterIncest romantic relationship]] with his sister in the afterlife).]]
** While Kokichi Oma is a huge ruthless ManipulativeBastard, [[spoiler: he hates the killing game and tries to do everything to stop it. His organization even has a ThouShallNotKill policy.]]
3rd Feb '17 8:32:06 AM JustSomeGuy732
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*In VideoGame/AngelsOfDeath, Zack, one of the main characters, is this. Sure, he may be an unrepentant serial killer who absolutely loves to murder his victims especially if they show their emotions in their last moment, but hey, at least he accepts who he is, is pure about his love of murders and is direct about it instead of trying to make self-justifications about his actions or make them seem noble. Heck, he even calls out on other characters [[spoiler:(even the MAIN character herself)]] for this.
1st Feb '17 6:58:34 AM BSonirachi
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** From the main baddie Gruntilda: [[NoFairCheating "Now I will erase your Game Pak, because you had the need to hack!"]]

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** From Gruntilda has many appallingly gross habits and hobbies... [[ToiletHumor but she draws the main baddie Gruntilda: line at going through a toilet's septic tank]].
--->'''Grunty''': I can't believe you went in there, wash your hands now, filthy bear!
** She also despises cheating, and she watches for you to type three
[[NoFairCheating "Now I will erase Grunty's Code Vengeance]]-compatible codes in the sandcastle of Treasure Trove Cove. If you ignore her threat after the second cheat and go ahead with the third and final cheat anyway...
--->'''Grunty''': You didn't listen, I'm amazed, so now
your Game Pak, because you had the need to hack!"]]Pak is erased!
29th Jan '17 8:49:12 PM Zaptech
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** Jack also seems to have issues with [[VillainsNeverLie outright lying to people.]] At one point in the Wildlife Preserve, a recording of him telling the "test subjects" of the facility that they're going to help further the cause of science with the experiments is cut off when he starts getting annoyed and yelling at the script-writer for having him lie to people who know they're about to be used in horrible mutagenic experiments.
29th Jan '17 8:39:57 PM Zaptech
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** Likewise, The Illusive Man claimed that the facility that created Jack in the first place was one that went rogue and later ordered the death of all the scientists involved. Records at the facility indicate that the scientists there ''were'' keeping at least some information from him, though given his fondness for surveillance bugs it's not impossible he had bugged their facility without their knowledge. It's also hard to tell if he really found the experiments immoral or if he's just more upset about how it all resulted in a dangerously powerful Biotic with an extreme hatred of Cerberus being set loose.

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** Likewise, The Illusive Man claimed that the facility that created Jack in the first place was one that went rogue and later ordered the death of all the scientists involved. Records at the facility indicate that the scientists there ''were'' keeping at least some information from him, though given his fondness for surveillance bugs it's not impossible he had bugged their facility without their knowledge. It's also hard to tell if he really found and the experiments immoral or if he's just more upset about how it all resulted in a dangerously powerful Biotic with an extreme hatred of Cerberus being set loose.post-mission report written by him mentions that he genuinely did have the scientists terminated for their actions.
19th Jan '17 10:22:44 PM CountDorku
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** Medic was kicked out of medical school for gross violations of standard medical procedure, i.e. stealing his patient's ''entire skeleton'', among other things. Keep in mind the medical school in question was stationed in Stuttgart, Germany during [[ThoseWackyNazis the early 1940's]]...
*** WordOfGod says that the Medic is ''not'' a Nazi. (if only for the reason that would be too easy) One wonders if perhaps even the Nazis were scared by this Doctor...
%%yes, I know the Medic wasn't a registered member of the Nazi party; that's the entire point of what I just wrote

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** Medic was kicked out of medical school for gross violations of standard medical procedure, i.e. stealing his patient's ''entire skeleton'', among other things. Keep in mind the medical school in question was stationed in Stuttgart, Germany during [[ThoseWackyNazis "a period where the early 1940's]]...
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Hippocratic Oath had been downgraded to an optional Hippocratic Suggestion" (although WordOfGod says is that the Medic he was never an ''actual'' Nazi).
** Saxton Hale
is ''not'' a Nazi. (if only for the reason that would be too easy) One wonders if perhaps even the Nazis were scared by this Doctor...
%%yes, I know the Medic wasn't a registered member
BloodKnight who views most of the Nazi party; that's world's wildlife as things for him to punch, stuff and/or eat, cares so little about the entire point of what I just wrotepeople around him that he mistakes a funeral for a party, and has a form letter that indicates he solves most disciplinary problems with beatings, but even he has limits.
--->'''Hale:''' Saxton Hale ''[[WouldNotHurtAChild will not fight a child!]]''
27th Dec '16 4:08:05 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** As ruthless [[spoiler: Celeste]] is, [[spoiler: she]] draws at being a SoreLoser. In fact [[spoiler: at the class trial for the victims she killed, she ended up accepting her loss realizing that there was not a way out.]]
** While Gundham is more-so pretending to be evil than actually being evil, he still finds disgust in [[spoiler: Nagito’s]] justification for murdering for the sake of “Hope”. He responds with “murder is simply murder”. [[spoiler:He's the killer in the fourth trial(because everyone was being kept in the funhouse without food until a murder occurred, and he refused to lay down and die), but he makes no excuses for what he did, although he believes that getting executed for murder is better than everyone slowly starving to death]].

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** As ruthless [[spoiler: Celeste]] is, [[spoiler: she]] draws at being a SoreLoser. In fact [[spoiler: at the class trial for the victims she killed, after a furious VillainousBreakdown she ended up accepting her loss realizing that there was not a way out.out, and was polite to the survivors right before being executed.]]
** While Gundham is more-so pretending to be evil than actually being evil, he still finds disgust in [[spoiler: Nagito’s]] justification for murdering for the sake of “Hope”. He responds with “murder is simply murder”. [[spoiler:He's the killer in the fourth trial(because trial (because everyone was being kept in the funhouse without food until a murder occurred, and he refused to lay down and die), but he makes no excuses for what he did, although he believes that getting executed for murder is better than everyone slowly starving to death]].death. As a bonus, he doesn't put up any resistence when he's executed for his deeds and makes sure his hamsters will be safe.]].
* In ''VideoGame/AkatsukiBlitzkampf'', Wei is TheBrute to TheTriadsAndTheTongs, but he ''despises'' backstabbing and holds an UndyingLoyalty to his boss. So when he finds out that [[spoiler: Marilyn Sue]] is the one who killed him, he's '''really fucking angry'''.
25th Dec '16 11:46:39 AM Hanz
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* Though the Stalker from ''VideoGame/{{Warframe}}'' [[AvengingTheVillain goes after players to avenge corporate tools and expansionist xenophobic fascists]], he draws the line at Captain Vor, who abuses Orokin technology, and Alad V, who dissects Tenno for twisted experiments, and won't bother avenging them.

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* Though the Stalker from ''VideoGame/{{Warframe}}'' [[AvengingTheVillain goes after players to avenge corporate tools and expansionist xenophobic fascists]], he draws the line at Captain Vor, who abuses Orokin technology, and Alad V, who dissects Tenno for twisted experiments, technology and won't bother avenging them.him. However, it's more of the fact that Vor is a StarterVillain and [[AntiFrustrationFeatures forcing players to contend with Stalker at that point would be brutally unfair]].



--->'''Aurelia''': Darling, I'm evil, let's not kid ourselves, but you... You're something else.

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--->'''Aurelia''': [[AtLeastIAdmitIt Darling, I'm evil, let's not kid ourselves, ourselves]], but you... You're something else.
18th Dec '16 6:35:11 PM Valiona
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** Judge Fang is quite depraved and corrupt, but even he disapproves of the Lotus Assassins. If you manage to have his courtesan steal his ring and use that to blackmail him into resigning for the purpose of infiltrating the Inquisitors, he'll reluctantly comply, but warn you that you're getting involved with a very dangerous organization.



** In Fallout 3, the Talon Company mercenaries do the jobs that other mercenary organizations would consider too unconscionable for their tastes. Reilly of Reilly's Rangers is honest that her work as a mercenary is essentially killing for money, but even she is disgusted by the jobs that Talon Company is willing to take on.



*** Wiegraf is an odd case. Excluding his ultimate fate, his backstory and actions could easily have allowed him to be the protagonist of the game. He is a Holy Knight fighting for the rights of the disenfranchised veterans of the previous war against an uncaring nobility. He most closely falls into being a HeroProtagonist, so he doesn't actually fall under "evil" himself.

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*** Wiegraf is an odd case. Excluding his ultimate fate, his backstory and actions could easily have allowed him to be the protagonist of the game. He is a Holy Knight fighting for the rights of the disenfranchised veterans of the previous war against an uncaring nobility. He most closely falls into being a HeroProtagonist, HeroAntagonist, so he doesn't actually fall under "evil" himself.



** Meredith herself shows this in Act 2, when she dismisses [Ser Otto Alrik's "Tranquil Solution" as too extreme, since it would involve essentially lobotomising every mage in Kirkwall. Unfortunately for, well, everyone, [[SanitySlippage she kind of loses it after that]].

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** Meredith herself shows this in Act 2, when she dismisses [Ser Ser Otto Alrik's "Tranquil Solution" as too extreme, since it would involve essentially lobotomising every mage in Kirkwall. Unfortunately for, well, everyone, [[SanitySlippage she kind of loses it after that]].



** In the comics, Miranda Lawson and Maya Brooks considered Kai Leng to be little more than The Illusive Man's personal PsychoForHire.

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** In the comics, Miranda Lawson and Maya Brooks Brooks, both high-ranking Cerberus members (the former makes a HeelFaceTurn but the latter doesn't) considered Kai Leng to be little more than The Illusive Man's personal PsychoForHire.



* Meta example from ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'': Some people quit the Genocide route because [[NiceGuy Papyrus]] is too innocent to kill. [[AxCrazy Flowey]] also gets in on this if you spare Toriel and then reset and murder her (commenting "Wow, you're utterly repulsive.") and [[spoiler:at the end of the Genocide Route, Flowey is horrified by what [[OmnicidalManiac Chara/Frisk]] has done.]]

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* Meta example from ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'': Some people quit the Genocide route because [[NiceGuy Papyrus]] is too innocent to kill. [[AxCrazy Flowey]] also gets in on this if you spare Toriel and then reset and murder her (commenting "Wow, you're utterly repulsive.") and [[spoiler:at the end of the Genocide Route, Flowey is horrified by what [[OmnicidalManiac Chara/Frisk]] has done.]]]] If you complete the Genocide route twice, [[spoiler:The Fallen Child]] will remark that you're "wracked with a perverted sentimentality."



** Not even the surviving {{Token Evil Teammate}}s (aka [[spoiler: Byakuya and Genocide Jill]]) were a proud fan of [[spoiler: Junko's LackOfEmpathy.]]

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** Not even the surviving {{Token Evil Teammate}}s (aka [[spoiler: Byakuya and Genocide Jill]]) were a proud fan of [[spoiler: Junko's LackOfEmpathy.]]]] The former even calls the mastermind nothing more than "a childish criminal."



** While Gundham is more-so pretending to be evil than actually being evil, he still finds disgust in [[spoiler: Nagito’s]] justification for murdering for the sake of “Hope”. He responds with “murder is simply murder”.

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** While Gundham is more-so pretending to be evil than actually being evil, he still finds disgust in [[spoiler: Nagito’s]] justification for murdering for the sake of “Hope”. He responds with “murder is simply murder”. [[spoiler:He's the killer in the fourth trial(because everyone was being kept in the funhouse without food until a murder occurred, and he refused to lay down and die), but he makes no excuses for what he did, although he believes that getting executed for murder is better than everyone slowly starving to death]].
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