History EvenEvilHasStandards / Theater

23rd Nov '15 12:44:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* Mad Padraic, the titular character from ''TheLieutenantOfInishmore'', is a strange subversion. He is first introduced torturing a drug dealer who sells drugs to children. The subversion occurs when it turns out that the drugs he sells are only marijuana, the children are students at the local technical university, and that what Padraic is mad about is not him selling drugs to children, but not restricting his sales to ''Protestant'' children.
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* Mad Padraic, the titular character from ''TheLieutenantOfInishmore'', ''Theatre/TheLieutenantOfInishmore'', is a strange subversion. He is first introduced torturing a drug dealer who sells drugs to children. The subversion occurs when it turns out that the drugs he sells are only marijuana, the children are students at the local technical university, and that what Padraic is mad about is not him selling drugs to children, but not restricting his sales to ''Protestant'' children.
22nd Nov '15 4:54:16 PM Prfnoff
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* Differing greatly from his portrayal in the book, Fagin from ''Oliver!'' is far more AffablyEvil and is increasingly horrified by Bill Sykes's brutality. It's best summed up in his song ''Reviewing the Situation'':
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* Differing greatly from his portrayal in the book, Fagin from ''Oliver!'' ''Theatre/{{Oliver}}'' is far more AffablyEvil and is increasingly horrified by Bill Sykes's brutality. It's best summed up in his song ''Reviewing the Situation'':

* In ''InheritTheWind'': Matthew Brady may be an anti-intellectual religious opportunist persecuting a free-thinking teacher, but when a hateful pastor curses the teacher at a prayer meeting and condemns his own daughter for defending him, Brady publicly tells the Pastor to back off from his tirade.
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* In ''InheritTheWind'': ''Theatre/InheritTheWind'': Matthew Brady may be an anti-intellectual religious opportunist persecuting a free-thinking teacher, but when a hateful pastor curses the teacher at a prayer meeting and condemns his own daughter for defending him, Brady publicly tells the Pastor to back off from his tirade.

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* In ''InheritTheWind'': Matthew Brady may be an anti-intellectual religious opportunist persecuting a free-thinking teacher, but when a hateful pastor curses ''Theatre/TwistedTheUntoldStoryOfARoyalVizier'', Disney villains are singing about their reasonable goals or sympathetic motives that have been [[WrittenByTheWinners distorted in the teacher at a prayer meeting and condemns his own daughter for defending him, Brady publicly tells the Pastor retelling]]. Except one: --> '''Cruella deVille:''' I only wished to back off from his tirade. to have a coat made out of puppies!\\ '''Others:''' Ewwwww.\\ '''Others:''' Just ''leave''!\\ '''Jafar:''' Why would you do that?\\ '''Others:''' That's insane!\\ '''Others:''' Get out!
4th Jan '15 4:14:23 AM captainmarkle
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* The British BlackComedy piece Theatre/GreatBritain is mostly comprised of morally ambiguous characters, but they mostly have ''some'' limits. Almost all of them are due to [[VillainProtagonist Paige Britain]] becoming more vile and ruthless.
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* The British BlackComedy piece Theatre/GreatBritain ''Theatre/GreatBritain'' is mostly comprised of morally ambiguous characters, but they mostly have ''some'' limits. Almost all of them are due to [[VillainProtagonist Paige Britain]] becoming more vile and ruthless.

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* The British BlackComedy piece Theatre/GreatBritain is mostly comprised ** In a tragically misguided case of morally ambiguous characters, but they mostly this trope, [[spoiler:some inmates at Broadmoor murder Kieron Mills, believing him to have ''some'' limits. Almost all of them are due sold his kids to [[VillainProtagonist Paige Britain]] becoming more vile a paedophile. In reality, he was ''completely'' innocent and ruthless.only vindicated posthumously]].
3rd Jan '15 3:59:48 PM captainmarkle
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* The British BlackComedy piece Theatre/GreatBritain is mostly comprised of morally ambiguous characters, but they mostly have ''some'' limits. Almost all of them are due to [[VillainProtagonist Paige Britain]] becoming more vile and ruthless. ** Assistant Commissioner Donald Doyle Davison may be something of a DirtyCop, but he's not a racist, and he encourages a racist officer to go to a course on tolerance. More seriously, he's horrified to find out that [[spoiler:his cooperation with Free Press resulted in the arrest and subsequent murder of the innocent Kieron, leading to his cutting off all links with Paige and subsequent resignation]]. ** The staff of "Free Press" generally have no problem exposing the dirty secrets of celebrities, viewing it as "just business". They draw the line at two things, however- they are outraged by Paige [[spoiler:letting Scarlett starve to death so that they can have exclusive rights to her death story]], and the news that [[spoiler:their sting operation went ''horribly'' wrong]] causes at least one of them to try and resign.
20th Aug '14 5:02:28 AM Divra
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*** The play could be considered a deconstruction of the concept. It is quite clear that the author thinks that being unwilling to hurt a cat when you have repeatedly and without remorse killed and tortured human does not mean you have morals, it just means you're a hypocrite on top of being a psychopath.
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*** The play could be considered a deconstruction of the concept. It is quite clear that the author thinks that being unwilling to hurt a cat when you have repeatedly and without remorse killed and tortured human people does not mean you have morals, it just means you're a hypocrite on top of being a psychopath.
20th Aug '14 5:02:00 AM Divra
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*** The play could be considered a deconstruction of the concept. It is quite clear that the author thinks that being unwilling to hurt a cat when you have repeatedly and without remorse killed and tortured human beings is not having standards, it's just being a psychopath.
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*** The play could be considered a deconstruction of the concept. It is quite clear that the author thinks that being unwilling to hurt a cat when you have repeatedly and without remorse killed and tortured human beings is does not having standards, it's mean you have morals, it just means you're a hypocrite on top of being a psychopath.
11th Aug '14 1:59:48 AM Divra
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*** The play could be considered a deconstruction of the concept. It is quite clear that the author thinks that being unwilling to hurt a cat when you have repeatedly and without remorse killed and tortured human beings is not having standards, it's just being a psychopath.
13th Jul '14 11:00:23 PM HamburgerTime
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* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'' will not kill in front of a child. Some productions play it as PragmaticVillainy (he only kills people who won't leave relatives or witnesses), but most imply he was reminded of his own stolen life before he turned to evil.
13th Jul '14 10:59:05 PM HamburgerTime
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* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'' will not kill in front of a child. Some productions play it as PragmaticVillainy (he only kills people who won't leave relatives or witnesses), but most imply he was reminded of his own stolen life before he turned to evil.
24th Feb '14 5:09:44 PM Luigifan
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** The pickpocket is willing to be one of the one hundred thugs that will punish an impertinent poet, later, he tries to steal Christian but is caught by him, and he was willing to betray the thugs and denounce the plan in exchange for his freedom, but when Christian ask for the name of the perpetrator he doesn’t want to talk and lampshades this trope: -->'''The pickpocket:''' I may not say—''a secret. . .'' \\
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** The pickpocket is willing to be one of the one hundred thugs that will punish an impertinent poet, poet; later, he tries to steal Christian but is caught by him, and he was willing to betray the thugs and denounce the plan in exchange for his freedom, but when Christian ask asks for the name of the perpetrator perpetrator, he doesn’t want to talk and lampshades this trope: -->'''The pickpocket:''' I may not say—''a secret. . .secret...'' \\

'''The pickpocket''' ''(with great dignity): . . .Of the profession.'' ** Cyrano maybe is not evil, but definitely he is a JerkAss and he is proud of it, so when the the buffet girl offers him some food he is eager to lampshade this:
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'''The pickpocket''' ''(with great dignity): . . .dignity): ...Of the profession.'' ** Cyrano maybe is not evil, but he is definitely he is a JerkAss and he is proud of it, so when the the buffet girl offers him some food he is eager to lampshade this:

[[PetTheDog And bids accept. . .]]
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[[PetTheDog And bids accept. . .accept...]]

* In Creator/{{Moliere}}'s ''Don Juan'', while Juan is is amoral and unempathetic to others, in one scene, he intervenes to save the life of a nobleman who was attacked by bandits and grossly outnumbered. This works to Juan's favor as the man he rescued turns out to have been the brother of one of Juan's abandoned conquests, which makes him become conflicted about his task of killing Juan. Additionally, Moliere had [[WriterOnBoard strong opinions]] about contemporary medical practice and how it was populated by a bunch of quacks and charlatans, and Juan echoes the author's opinions on this issue.
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* In Creator/{{Moliere}}'s ''Don Juan'', while Juan is is amoral and unempathetic to others, in one scene, he intervenes to save the life of a nobleman who was attacked by bandits and grossly outnumbered. This works to Juan's favor favor, as the man he rescued turns out to have been the brother of one of Juan's abandoned conquests, which makes him become conflicted about his task of killing Juan. Additionally, Moliere had [[WriterOnBoard strong opinions]] about contemporary medical practice and how it was populated by a bunch of quacks and charlatans, and Juan echoes the author's opinions on this issue.

* Differing greatly from his portrayal in the book, Fagin from ''Oliver!'', is far more AffablyEvil and is increasingly horrified by Bill Sykes's brutality. It's best summed up in his song ''Reviewing the Situation'':
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* Differing greatly from his portrayal in the book, Fagin from ''Oliver!'', ''Oliver!'' is far more AffablyEvil and is increasingly horrified by Bill Sykes's brutality. It's best summed up in his song ''Reviewing the Situation'':

* In ''InheritTheWind'': Matthew Brady may be an anti-intellectual religious opportunist persecuting a free thinking teacher, but when a hateful pastor curses the teacher at a prayer meeting and condemns his own daughter for defending him, Brady publicly tells the Pastor to back off from his tirade.
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* In ''InheritTheWind'': Matthew Brady may be an anti-intellectual religious opportunist persecuting a free thinking free-thinking teacher, but when a hateful pastor curses the teacher at a prayer meeting and condemns his own daughter for defending him, Brady publicly tells the Pastor to back off from his tirade.

** Though given that after Valjean offers them 1500 francs for Cosette,they never again worry about his "intentions," that somewhat undercuts the argument that they were honestly concerned for her.
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** Though given that after Valjean offers them 1500 francs for Cosette,they Cosette, they never again worry about his "intentions," that somewhat undercuts the argument that they were honestly concerned for her.

* Mad Padraic, the titular character from ''TheLieutenantOfInishmore'' is a strange subversion. He is first introduced torturing a drug dealer who sells drugs to children. The subversion occurs when it turns out that the drugs he sells are only marijuana, the children are students at the local technical university, and that what Padraic is mad about is not him selling drugs to children, but not restricting his sales to ''Protestant'' children. ** A more straight example is Padraic's past as a member of first the IRA, which he then left to join a splinter group (the INLA) of those whose methods were too extreme for the IRA, only leave THAT group to form his own one-man splinter-of-a-splinter group because he ''was too extreme for the INLA too''. ** Brendan, one of the [=INLA=] members, is completely jaded when it comes to drug-dealing, arson and terrorism, but recoils in horror when he finds out his compatriots have killed a cat.
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* Mad Padraic, the titular character from ''TheLieutenantOfInishmore'' ''TheLieutenantOfInishmore'', is a strange subversion. He is first introduced torturing a drug dealer who sells drugs to children. The subversion occurs when it turns out that the drugs he sells are only marijuana, the children are students at the local technical university, and that what Padraic is mad about is not him selling drugs to children, but not restricting his sales to ''Protestant'' children. ** A more straight example is Padraic's past as a member of first the IRA, which he then left to join a splinter group (the INLA) of those whose methods were too extreme for the IRA, only to leave THAT group to form his own one-man splinter-of-a-splinter group because he ''was too extreme for the INLA too''. ** Brendan, one of the [=INLA=] members, is completely jaded when it comes to drug-dealing, arson arson, and terrorism, but recoils in horror when he finds out his compatriots have killed a cat.
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