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28th Apr '16 11:02:11 AM ThatBitterTase
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* While [[Manga/FrankenFran Victoria Madaraki]] is not really "evil", she ''is'' an ArtificialHuman created for the express purpose of being a highly efficient LivingWeapon and had likely [[OneWomanArmy killed people in the hundreds]] before she was even introduced. Since she was created for killing, that's also [[NoSocialSkills pretty much all she knows]] and, as a consequence, she thinks MurderIsTheBestSolution in pretty much any situation she's presented with. Her sister, [[MadDoctor Fran Madaraki]], is [[SiblingYinYang the exact opposite]]: She's an ArtificialHuman created for the express purpose of saving lives, no matter what... When Victoria sees first-hand [[BodyHorror the extremes]] her sister can go to in order to ensure that no lives are lost, she can only stare at [[FateWorseThanDeath the result]] in horror and ask if Fran isn't going to MercyKill her patients.

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* While [[Manga/FrankenFran Victoria Madaraki]] is not really "evil", she ''is'' an ArtificialHuman created for the express purpose of being a highly efficient LivingWeapon and had likely [[OneWomanArmy killed people in the hundreds]] before she was even introduced. Since she was created for killing, that's also [[NoSocialSkills pretty much all she knows]] and, as a consequence, she thinks MurderIsTheBestSolution in pretty much any situation she's presented with. Her sister, [[MadDoctor Fran Madaraki]], is [[SiblingYinYang the exact opposite]]: She's an ArtificialHuman created for the express purpose of saving lives, no matter what... When Victoria sees first-hand [[BodyHorror the extremes]] her sister can go to in order to ensure that no lives are lost, she can only stare at [[FateWorseThanDeath the result]] in horror and ask if Fran isn't going to MercyKill her patients. In turn, however, Fran notices Victoria's willingness to kill people for ''calling her names'' and points out she doesn't have the moral high ground.
* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'': Diavolo, the main villain of Part Five, is the head of the Passione crime syndicate. He is not above drug-dealing. He is perfectly willing to murder his own daughter (who ''has never met him'') in order to keep his identity secret. Even he despises [[DeadlyDoctor Cioccolata]], to the point of dismissing him as "human garbage". The only reason Diavolo keeps Cioccolata around is because it's better to have his powers working ''for'' him rather than ''against'' him.
1st Apr '16 10:40:13 AM Willbyr
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* In the second season of ''SpaceBattleshipYamato'', the evil emperor-without-an-empire Dessler discovers that the court intrigues of his allies on the White Comet transgress even his moral limits. Particularly when he winds up in their prison cell.

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* In the second season of ''SpaceBattleshipYamato'', ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'', the evil emperor-without-an-empire Dessler discovers that the court intrigues of his allies on the White Comet transgress even his moral limits. Particularly when he winds up in their prison cell.



* In ''DragonBall'', Piccolo decides to aid Goku in fighting Raditz because he wants to TakeOverTheWorld as opposed to Raditz' plan to KillEmAll. This and his time with Gohan are the impetus for his HeelFaceTurn.

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* In ''DragonBall'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', Piccolo decides to aid Goku in fighting Raditz because he wants to TakeOverTheWorld as opposed to Raditz' plan to KillEmAll. This and his time with Gohan are the impetus for his HeelFaceTurn.



* [[{{Hellsing}} Alucard]] may be an AxCrazy CombatSadomasochist, but he knows that he's a monster and when someone goes too far. One of the reasons he serves Hellsing is because he hates the vampires of the modern era not only for being far weaker than he is but also for abusing what little power they do have. Specifically by turning people into ghouls, and Alucard is above that. And the [[BigBad Major]] starting a war on England just because he likes war... even Alucard thought he was a lunatic! (Specifically, a lunatic on par with ''himself.'') Sure, he killed a bunch of human police officers when they stormed into the hotel he was staying in, but they were the ones attacking him! Plus, due to his UndyingLoyalty to the Hellsing Organization, he has a strong distaste for traitors. [[spoiler: Lookin' at you, Walter.]] And becoming a monster for the sake of defeating him? He... doesn't approve of that, either. [[spoiler: Anderson finds this out the hard way.]]

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* [[{{Hellsing}} [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Alucard]] may be an AxCrazy CombatSadomasochist, but he knows that he's a monster and when someone goes too far. One of the reasons he serves Hellsing is because he hates the vampires of the modern era not only for being far weaker than he is but also for abusing what little power they do have. Specifically by turning people into ghouls, and Alucard is above that. And the [[BigBad Major]] starting a war on England just because he likes war... even Alucard thought he was a lunatic! (Specifically, a lunatic on par with ''himself.'') Sure, he killed a bunch of human police officers when they stormed into the hotel he was staying in, but they were the ones attacking him! Plus, due to his UndyingLoyalty to the Hellsing Organization, he has a strong distaste for traitors. [[spoiler: Lookin' at you, Walter.]] And becoming a monster for the sake of defeating him? He... doesn't approve of that, either. [[spoiler: Anderson finds this out the hard way.]]
30th Mar '16 2:07:15 PM ShadowLordHeishin
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** Played with in Battle City. Marik decides to cheat by using Rishid (Odion in the dub), who is posing as him, to use the (fake) Millennium Rod to "release" Bakura's good half, who is confused and wincing in pain from the stabbed arm Dark Bakura gave him prior, since Dark Yugi wouldn't be likely to attack his friend in that state. Dark Bakura subsequently betrays Marik, but he didn't do it because he had standards or because he cared about Bakura; he only did it because if Bakura was killed, ''he'd'' cease to exist.

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** Played with in Battle City. Marik decides to cheat by using Rishid (Odion in the dub), who is posing as him, to use the (fake) Millennium Rod to "release" Bakura's good half, who is confused and wincing in pain from the stabbed arm Dark Bakura gave him prior, since Dark Yugi wouldn't be likely to attack his friend in that state. Dark Bakura subsequently betrays Marik, but he didn't do it because he had standards or because he cared about Bakura; he only did it because if Bakura was killed, ''he'd'' cease to exist. Though he DOES give Marik a look of disgust before he takes control over Bakura back, implying that this trope was a part of his motivations.
28th Mar '16 9:53:50 AM ObsidianFire
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** Invoked by [[GenreSavvy Makoto]] [[MagnificentBastard Shishio]], who roped [[ReligiousBruiser Anji Yukyuzan]] into the Juppongatana with the promise of letting him decide about the life and death of his enemies since he knew [[NobleDemon Anji was still very lawful and honor-bound.]] Predictably, when Anji sees Usui attempt to stab an indefense Misao InTheBack, he invokes this trope and stops Usui with his bare hands. Overall, Shishio is evil and [[CardCarryingVillain well aware of it]], but can't stand the dishonesty and hypocrisy of the government whenever it commits comparably heinous acts while claiming to represent democracy and peace.

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** Invoked by [[GenreSavvy Makoto]] Makoto [[MagnificentBastard Shishio]], who roped [[ReligiousBruiser Anji Yukyuzan]] into the Juppongatana with the promise of letting him decide about the life and death of his enemies since he knew [[NobleDemon Anji was still very lawful and honor-bound.]] Predictably, when Anji sees Usui attempt to stab an indefense Misao InTheBack, he invokes this trope and stops Usui with his bare hands. Overall, Shishio is evil and [[CardCarryingVillain well aware of it]], but can't stand the dishonesty and hypocrisy of the government whenever it commits comparably heinous acts while claiming to represent democracy and peace.
15th Mar '16 11:27:03 PM kataangluvr
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** In the Mello/Near arc, he makes it obvious that he's not too thrilled with Demegawa, who was hosting a "pro-Kira" show, suddenly turned his mind to the money he could make. Though this has less to do with his {{greed}} and more of the fact that Demegawa could potentially ruin a chance to make people support him even more.
28th Jan '16 8:10:48 AM Goukenimaru
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* Aur the VillainProtagonist from ''LightNovel/MaouNoHajimekata'', doing his part as Demon Lord, goes to a village and demands a virgin maiden as a tribute for him, the village chief offers him a little girl, Maria, Aur asks if they are trying to mess with him, the chief responds that all maidens were taken by bandits, royalty and the like so Maria was the only virgin left; Aur decides to take Maria anyway, reasoning she could of some use one day, unlike all other women Aur likes to have his way with it seems he pulls the break on little girls at least, treating Maria with some kindness even, like a mascot. [[spoiler:Aur's servant Lilu however starts lecturing the innocent Maria on sex education so when she matures she can finally start servicing Aur]].
8th Jan '16 1:46:03 PM Willbyr
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* The Emperor from ''CodeGeass'' is a man who allows his people to brutalize, slaughter and abuse anyone in captured areas, simply because they aren't Britannian. He's NOT a nice man and most of the world hates him for very good reasons. That said, he will not stand for lying. [[spoiler:He watched his family murder each other in power grabs with lies and absolutely despises anyone who plays a role. As a result, when he found out that his brother had lied to him about killing his wife and Lelouch's mother Marianne, he stole his code and let him die for the action when he had the chance in R2]]. This does make him a bit of a hypocrite, as Lelouch points out. [[spoiler:He put on his own mask as Emperor to hide his true goal of making a world without lies]].

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* The Emperor from ''CodeGeass'' ''Anime/CodeGeass'' is a man who allows his people to brutalize, slaughter and abuse anyone in captured areas, simply because they aren't Britannian. He's NOT a nice man and most of the world hates him for very good reasons. That said, he will not stand for lying. [[spoiler:He watched his family murder each other in power grabs with lies and absolutely despises anyone who plays a role. As a result, when he found out that his brother had lied to him about killing his wife and Lelouch's mother Marianne, he stole his code and let him die for the action when he had the chance in R2]]. This does make him a bit of a hypocrite, as Lelouch points out. [[spoiler:He put on his own mask as Emperor to hide his true goal of making a world without lies]].



* A comedic example in the sound dramas of MaiHime. Nagi may be a ManipulativeBastard who is working for the evil Obsidian Lord, but he reminds the viewers not to drink before they're 20, unlike Mai, Natsuki, Mikoto, Nao, [[ThoseTwoGuys Chie and Aoi]].

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* A comedic example in the sound dramas of MaiHime.''Anime/MaiHime''. Nagi may be a ManipulativeBastard who is working for the evil Obsidian Lord, but he reminds the viewers not to drink before they're 20, unlike Mai, Natsuki, Mikoto, Nao, [[ThoseTwoGuys Chie and Aoi]].
3rd Jan '16 9:40:25 AM nombretomado
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* Could be argued of Stein to Medusa in {{Soul Eater}}, given their fight was on the basis of pitching two violent anarchists against one another to see [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome happened]]. Stein is clearly attracted to Medusa's point of view (amongst other [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence things]]) and claims that only fear of a higher authority (i.e Lord Death) holds him back. But when Medusa claims she is the ''mother'' of the child she's been experimenting on - Crona - and that she would gladly sacrifice [[ItIsDehumanizing 'it']] if necessary, Stein is visibly angered by her. However, later chapters make an attempt to make Stein appear more humane and not simply the 'hedonistic sadist' Spirit pegs him as during the fight, so the 'evil' is debateable.

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* Could be argued of Stein to Medusa in {{Soul Eater}}, ''Manga/SoulEater'', given their fight was on the basis of pitching two violent anarchists against one another to see [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome happened]]. Stein is clearly attracted to Medusa's point of view (amongst other [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence things]]) and claims that only fear of a higher authority (i.e Lord Death) holds him back. But when Medusa claims she is the ''mother'' of the child she's been experimenting on - Crona - and that she would gladly sacrifice [[ItIsDehumanizing 'it']] if necessary, Stein is visibly angered by her. However, later chapters make an attempt to make Stein appear more humane and not simply the 'hedonistic sadist' Spirit pegs him as during the fight, so the 'evil' is debateable.
29th Dec '15 3:37:00 PM ImaginaryMetroid
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* Could be argued of Stein to Medusa in {{Soul Eater}}, given their fight was on the basis of pitching two violent anarchists against one another to see [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome happened]]. Stein is clearly attracted to Medusa's point of view (amongst other [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence things]]) and claims that only fear of a higher authority (i.e Lord Death) holds him back. But when Medusa claims she is the ''mother'' of the child she's been experimenting on - Crona - and that she would gladly sacrifice [[ItIsDehumanizing 'it']] if necessary, Stein is visibly angered by her. However, later chapers make an attempt to make Stein appear more humane and not simply the 'hedonistic sadist' Spirit pegs him as during the fight, so the 'evil' is debateable.
** Arache was dubbed a 'heretic' by her own kind when she killed a witch in order to create the first Weapon. As the witches are largely presented as Always Chaotic Evil, this probably counts.

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* Could be argued of Stein to Medusa in {{Soul Eater}}, given their fight was on the basis of pitching two violent anarchists against one another to see [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome happened]]. Stein is clearly attracted to Medusa's point of view (amongst other [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence things]]) and claims that only fear of a higher authority (i.e Lord Death) holds him back. But when Medusa claims she is the ''mother'' of the child she's been experimenting on - Crona - and that she would gladly sacrifice [[ItIsDehumanizing 'it']] if necessary, Stein is visibly angered by her. However, later chapers chapters make an attempt to make Stein appear more humane and not simply the 'hedonistic sadist' Spirit pegs him as during the fight, so the 'evil' is debateable.
** Arache Arachne was dubbed a 'heretic' by her own kind when she killed a witch in order to create the first Weapon. As the witches are largely presented as Always Chaotic Evil, this probably counts.
27th Dec '15 4:40:49 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Slayers}} Next''. Gaav concentrates all his resources on trying to kill Lina, because he believes his archenemy Hellmaster Fibrizo will use her to destroy him. However when confronting Lina he still gives her the chance to fight back; and when she casts the Ragna Blade and Gaav ''knows'' the spell could kill him, he still gives her the chance to attack first and doesn't try to pull any dirty tricks. [[spoiler: Ultimately this leads to his demise; although the Ragna Blade doesn't kill him it weakens him enough for Fibrizo to step in and destroy him]].

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* ''{{Slayers}} ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}} Next''. Gaav concentrates all his resources on trying to kill Lina, because he believes his archenemy Hellmaster Fibrizo will use her to destroy him. However when confronting Lina he still gives her the chance to fight back; and when she casts the Ragna Blade and Gaav ''knows'' the spell could kill him, he still gives her the chance to attack first and doesn't try to pull any dirty tricks. [[spoiler: Ultimately this leads to his demise; although the Ragna Blade doesn't kill him it weakens him enough for Fibrizo to step in and destroy him]].
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